Troll
The term "troll" has, over the past few decades, evolved for some into an ideology with a distinct methodology. Seen by many as "Internet Eugenics" - ridding the tubes of idiots, people who take themselves too seriously, bloggers and the like. Others even go to the extent of idealizing it to the point of qualifying the likes of Socrates as such; clearly outreaching from the more common consensus that trolling as we understand it originated on the Internet. However you see it, trolling has become omnipresent on the Internet; for the better and the worse.
Nowadays, term has often been bastardized and brutally abused by retards (See: Libtards) to describe someone with a differing opinion about something, and by 14 year olds with trollface avatars who believe themselves to be TROL MASZTERSZ, although the primary usage is still presenting intentional logical fallacies or behaving in seemingly irrational ways with the intention of provoking a humorous and boisterous response.
According to the definition of Wikipedia administrator Bbb23, a troll is anyone who criticizes the Wikipedia administrator Bbb23.
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—Weev |
Hunter of Trolls
Moar info: The Troll Hunter.
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Trolling is a art
Origins
Many people have put forward various different possible origins of the term "trolling". The most widely accepted one is that it started in the late 80s/early 90s on alt.folklore.urban where it meant reposting questions and topics that had been repeatedly overdone. In this sense, it was a harmless way of “baiting” new users into replying and making arses of themselves. Trolling here coming from the fishing technique where you bait one or more lines and slowly reel the fish in if they bite. Much like trolling for fish, making the bait appealing by upkeeping suspension of disbelief is the key to success.
What Trolling is not
Over the years, cases of amateur failtrolls and users on the losing side of an argument have created a misconception about what trolling really is. Some interwebs users think that now yelling TROLO and UMAD will make them a successful troll. Many 13 year old boys have found the internet an excellent place to get on their soapbox and spout unsolicited opinions, which is the major cause of arguing on the internet. Trolling both sides, though entertaining, is a very easy form of trolling and thus is often used by newer, inexperienced trolls. As it's become commonplace, it's also become a common excuse for a user who loses an internet argument. To say that they never intended to win the argument the entire time is a justification for their inadequate argument skills.
Since then, the definition of trolling (through eliciting an argument) has devolved into anyone trying to elicit an argument altogether. Though this technically fits the definition of the troll, the intention behind arguing is what makes the difference. Remember: to be considered a troll, the user must have had the intention of trolling from the beginning. If there isn't some subtle hint of the intention to troll during the argument, the user is either a failtroll or a fail arguer.
Additionally, as stated before, many interwebs users only choose to argue as an excuse to spout their unwanted opinions. By failing, the troll has given that user an excellent excuse to do so; causing the troll to backfire and thus troll himself.
How to identify a Troll
Most people who identify as a troll are, unsurprisingly, 12 year old kids with nothing of value to contribute, people angered by a ban, or users upset that no one pays attention to them. As expected, the only harm they do is make themselves look like butthurt idiots. Typically their posts are overly abusive, conspicuous and badly written. The topics are generally well known to be abused by Trolls and the poster would never be able to pass for genuinely interested in their question because of it. A good troll on the other hand is usually extremely difficult to out: knowing what they're doing, they are able to bluff through a whole argument, giving the impression that they're truly interested in the topic while watching the whole community go down on the thread in a mass of flame wars, ad hominem attacks and much generally much anger.
Generalization of Trolling
Trolling usually consists of posting content that is intended to spark up a Flame War, Shitstorm, Internet fallout and the like, mainly for the entertainment of the Troll and his/her "friends". Another reason advanced by the infamous Jason Fortuny of the "Craigslist Experiment" is that trolling is a means of "finding answers about human behaviour". Of course, Jason is an idiot and generally shunned by most internet users so his opinion is neither particularly valuable nor interesting. Whatever the motives are, observing or posting a good troll is just simply exciting.
The content varies widely; it can be anything from yet another new troll face/endless variation of a meme on 4Chan to the classic vim vs. emacs on the Ubuntu forums. Whatever is used, an important aspect of trolling consists of knowing what you are doing: there’s nothing more tiresome than some kid trying to be cool OTI by being overly aggressive and refusing to admit that he failed. Generally speaking, a Troll is finding a way of initiating angst in idiots for amusement and in the hope that anyone allowing themselves to be hurt by someone on the other side of the planet will leave the Internet.
The Trolls' Theme Song
How to Troll Trolls
Moar info: Trolls Trolling Trolls.
Many trolls take great pride in their self-proclaimed troll mastery, and feel as if they are experts on how trolling should or should not be done.
- One of the best ways to get all the trolls up in arms is, to claim something as epic trolling and brag exuberantly about it.
- It won't be long before the ragefaced trolls come out of the woodwork to tell you exactly why you aren't a troll and just how stupid you are.
- The best part about trolling trolls is, when you get a handful of trolls in the same thread, it's like tying badgers on crack to each other by the tail.
Trolling methods
Mastery over trolling methods is not what makes a master troll, but rather the implementation of these methods. A good parallel would be comparing cooks to chefs. A master troll creates and implements his or her own recipes, and begins as a career troll, giving priority to the rigorous study, practice, and combining of the areas of properly executed logical fallacies, social science, drama-generating techniques, and the identification and appreciation of other trolls. Great chef from which you can learn is kitborga, where here brings him to mental breakdown. The fact is that his films have a slight disadvantage of trying to destroy someone's time, which means that his trolling lasts exactly as long as the conversation lasts, i.e. it does not work in the classic way, where you cast the bait and people shoot the drama themselves, but still it's worthed - he simply chose a form of abuse that is socially acceptable.
A good tip to remember when trolling is to make people rage without actually giving away too much. Think of it as standing on a line, but not crossing it. Make your arguments/responses/questions seem logical and reasonable yet almost extremist. Like Noam Chomsky said, “The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum.” A obvious pictorial example is propertarianism where claim that children are the property of their parents, therefore pedophilia is legit if is incestuous. If you are not sitting with these 3 anons who actually believe in this ideology, practically everywhere outside of this environment you will drive almost anyone to immediate furious, but no one will be able to undermine it because logic protects it.
Admitting to trolling will also nullify your status as a troll, making you a failtroll. The troll is by and large a silent hero in the shadows and lives by this honor; he is Anonymous. There can be some liberties made towards close acquaintances of the troll who may already know his intentions.
Argument from fallacy
It's quite popular and safe method - bonus points if you killing with politeness. But why it's mentioned as trolling at all?
- In dealing with people, we must remember that they are not beings guided by logic. We are dealing with emotional beings full of prejudices and pride in vanity. Dale carnegie - How to Win Friends and Influence People
Overall, some chapters in this book is about like "Don't criticize, condemn, or lecture" or "you can't win the flame". This rules doesn't just apply to people who are comfortable with growth mindset and pointing out mistakes are welcomed with joy and humility. But most people are incapable of it, and therefore it's an excellent way to trolling - especially that we cannot convince the advocates by giving them the facts.
- It would be a great mistake to suppose that it is sufficient not to become personal yourself. For by showing a man quite quietly that he is wrong, and that what he says and thinks is incorrect - a process which occurs in every dialectical victory - you embitter him more than if you used some rude or insulting expression. Why is this? Because, as Hobbes observes,17 all mental pleasure consists in being able to compare oneself with others to one's own advantage. Nothing is of greater moment to a man than the gratification of his vanity, and no wound is more painful than that which is inflicted on it. Hence such phrases as "Death before dishonor," and so on. The gratification of vanity arises mainly by comparison of oneself with others, in every respect, but chiefly in respect of one's intellectual powers; and so the most effective and the strongest gratification of it is to be found in controversy. Arthur Schopenhauer - The Art of Being Right: 38 Ways to Win an Argument
Example: Make an offensive post and wait for to argue against you. Instead of actually making a counter argument, just point out the fallacies in their argument. That will make them mad real fast. If anyone say "argument from fallacy" you can increase flame saying "in mathematics also check what happens next when the error occurs earlier?" or better "I just found it to be fallacy. Not that it refutes your argument. I am giving you a chance to improve yourself".
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein.
Mirroring
a much funnier method is to use their fallacies against them.
Example: Start off by bitching about niggers, Jews, or any other minority. Once they take the bait and inevitably call you a privileged white male,' tell them you're Asian, black or Hispanic, and female. Bonus points if you call them a 'racist', 'fascist' and/or 'sexist' for jumping to conclusions. Causes them to fucking explode.
Tip: The point here is not that *literally* use their fallacies against them, only to submit a simple analysis of the consequences. So, when interlocutor use ad personam, don't do exactly the same, always strive for to prove the fracture the golden rule
Example: Right Not To Be Offended it's these being their pretexts for gaining power over others speech control over others speech is what SJWs want for themselves, though they would be horrified were others to apply the same methods to them; scoring this immorality each time gives two results: agreeing with you (even if it is not explicitly stated) or ghosting. Most people it assholes which they forget about golden rule and you can stab everyone at every time, when they will not be able to justify their behavior. Often they can't stand it at this point either and will use it very quickly 3 fallacies: ad personam, tu quoque or tone policing.
Remember, each fallacy you can reverse, always you ask yourself, "since person 1 authorized fallacy X, it means that..." for example:
- You're stupid
- Thank you for your complement
- It wasn't complement you idiot [...]
- out of your mouth, there is.
most people are sacks of shit who think when they use fallacy it's a one-side argument, so they will be helpless when you throw their own stone at them.
More advanced victim, out of powerlessness, they will try to use your technique against you, but they will never succeed because these retards never educate themselves on how fallacies work. Eg. It will be common practice to confuse merit argument + ad hominem vs. pure ad hominem, because they don't distinguish between criticism and hatred.
Morality
Finally, to completely destroys you victim, you must touch their absolute moral value and pointing out their even not hypocrisy, but that they are the aggressors.
Since golden rule is a moral stance, a clear distinction needs to be made here, between tu quoque and golden rule:
Logical form tu quoque:
- Person A claims that statement X is true.
- Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X.
- Therefore, X is false.
tu quoque it's basically two wrongs don't make a right. If I say shouldn't smoke but *I* smoke, it doesn't refute the notion that shouldn't smoke. I commit a tu quoque anytime I approve of A but not of B or vice versa. Meanwhile logical claim to The golden rule is filling this gap. "If i approve A them i must also approve B" A tu quoque merely points out that one party has inconsistent attitudes toward two purportedly similar things. It doesn't make any claim about the attitude we ought to have toward them (supposing the analogy is a good one). In other words, people get even more fun at this point, because they are trying to prove moral superiority by applying amoral familism themselves.
so enjoy this FATALITY formula:
if you claim that X is ok, it means that I can do the same as they do, i.e. X because you thinks X is okay, right?
Example:
if you claim that harming and cheating customers / users is ok, it means that I will be able to do the same as they do, i.e. "hurt" them, that is, pirate their product because in his opinion the treatment in question is okay, right?
Remember, context does matter and sometimes using literal mirroring could be beneficial. Other example: Ask if a programmer has access to the source code, why forbid others to obtain this privilege. Usually you hear because yes. since such an argument has already been allowed by the interlocutor, you can use the same for him and say eg. "so i can pirate, because yes".
College Students Show How To Deal With Trolls
Different kinds of Troll
Most people calling themselves trolls tend to focus on a single medium, be it YouTube, online video games, forums or IRC.
- Haters: One of the more common flavours of troll, these guys will be found on YouTube and other content sharing websites often tearing the shit out of vloggers, attention whores, whiney cry-babies, stupid kids, talentless hacks and other helmet heroes.
- Griefers: As the haters are on YouTube, the griefers are present in most video games. Spamming the in-game chat window, rule-breaking, teamkilling, camping, spawnkilling, and hacking are some of the preferred means of trolling a online gaming community.
- Perverts: Not to be confused with furfags and actual sick fucks, these freaks stalk anonymous chat websites like Omegle and often post images of dicks, sext unsuspecting strangers or groom young girls with the intent to creep them the fuck out; Or maybe they are just that perverted. In the latter case, ignore this section as if it never existed.
- Religious Fundamentalists: This troll will pose as a religious nut from one of the big three demographics, and will spew forth whatever religious nonsense sounds good, and wrap it up with some verses from the Bible, Quran, Pretentiapaedia or whatever. Commonly found posting on Atheist/religious moderate forums, videos, and other such outlets.
- Grammar Nazis: These guys get off to making dyslexic imbeciles, pretentious assholes and Americunts rage by pointing out their poor grammar. They can be found anywhere there's a comments section or chat. Do not confuse them with actual pedants.
- Sad Fucks: These losers are obsessed with trolling to the point that it is no longer a pass-time and they themselves become butthurt cry-babies that are easily trolled. Try to avoid becoming one of these cunts.
- Shitposters: These guys have small attention spans and usually just spam copypastas or try to mind fuck people. Plenty of noobs online are gullible enough to take the bait though and often write a tl;dr butthurt reply to an obvious troll, prompting the Shitposter to copy the noobs message and repeat it to them, turning it into a micro-meme, shitposting it to another random victim who will repeat the process again or some shit.
Victims & Enemies of Trollkind
It should come as of no surprise that trolls would have many victims. After all, that is the aim of the game. Here are just a few of those commonly victimized by trolls.
- Faggots
- Furries
- Bronies
- Otherkin
- Teenage girls
- Teenage boys
- Child fuckers
- Animal fuckers
- Feminists
- Moralfags
- New Anonymous Members
- Misogynist Rights Activists
- Social Justice Warriors
- GamerGaters
- All Types of Political Slacktivists
- All Types of Political Activists
- Emos
- Metalfags
- Hipsters
- Christfags
- Ragheads
- Nose-Niggers
- Filthy Godless Heathens
- Any & all other theists
- Communists
- Socialists
- Capitalists
- Neo-Nazis
- Any & all political groups
- Coons
- Chinks
- Spics
- Sand-Spooks
- White-Wogs
- Fake Trolls
- FUCKING EVERYBODY!
Just like victims, it should also be no surprise that they have enemies too. These folks can actually stop trolls! But not for long.
- Competent Moderators & Admins
- Whiney Parents Groups
- Whiney Parents of Kids that Off'd themselves
- Anti-Virus & Website Security software developers
- Over zealous troll hunters
- Sweden (And any other nation that has outlawed "cyberbullying")
- The Internet Police
- Lawyers
- Jewish Conspirators
Notable Trolling Organizations
Many trolling organizations have been created over the years. Some are/were brilliant, while the vast majority were terrible. Typically seeing the same users over several groups, trolling organizations tend to gently merge over time.
Bantown
Bantown was one of the most productive troll "organizations" to grace the Internet. Being a loose group composed of illustrious trolls and kewl kids such as Weev, Revmischa, Crayolacrime, Hepkitten, Mediacrat, Aardvark, Oclet, Wattage and OldDirtyBtard, Bantown gave us amazing trolls, outstanding scripts to flood IRC, and fun times.
Well known trolls by #Bantown regulars:
- Lulzcon performance by Weev and Revmischa on the infamous Firefox Java exploit.
- Raping Freenode by acquiring Rob Levin's operserv and nickserv passwords.
Other achievements:
See also: Crapflood
GNAA
Moar info: GNAA.
The Gay Nigger Association of America™ was created in January 2003 by timecop (President and CEO) and jesuitx (Vice President) to protect the rights and interests of all men of African and Homosexual persuasions. Starting their operations in a grandiose manner: trolling Slashdot using ASCII art logos representing the organization and satirical news releases pertaining to the contents of Slashdot articles, the GNAA, currently under the presidency of Murdox following weev's incarceration, continues to push the frontiers of trolling ever further.
Some of the more lulz-worthy trolls delivered by GNAA members are:
- The Firefox XPS IRC Attack on Freenode by the Goatse Security Labs
- AT&T's Ipad ICC ID security breach
- Taking part in the great Dumbledore dies meme of 2005
Did you know Goatsec CEO Andrew Auernheimer has been arrested on bogus drug possession charges, materials clearly on his person for religious use?
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They hating.
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Troll approaches.
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Obvious troll is rather obvious.
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These troll victims gained a sense of humor and thought it was cool that they were trolled
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Poor grammar will raise the hairs on the back of Blargh's neck.
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What it amounts to.
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Bugs Bunny advises becoming a trap to avoid being trolled.
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Listen to Bad Advice Dog.
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Trolling national television is also a valid option.
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Grawp: notorious TOW troll.
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Trollhattan, Sweden. It's like Manhattan for trolls.
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Handy chart to trolling /tv/.
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How does one troll?
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JoshU2uber and his gay boyfriends disgracing Anonymous.
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Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful.
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A furry trolls some guy
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A Transformers troll
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A troll in the process of violating the mind of an innocent victim.
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Just say no!
External Links
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- Defining 'troll'
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