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Talk:GamerGate/POTM
Milo
So there's his dealings with the Kernel. Who has what on this? People mentioned the whole debacle with the Kernal which appears to be such a dismal failure that they were forced to short change people's pay. LOL there's leadership for you.
I'll add in more later.--GSTalbert 14:28, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
IA
Guy seems like a chill architect that runs a shitty youtube channel. I don't see much dirt here. --GSTalbert 14:28, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
- Internet_Aristocrat is awesome and if you don't see that you are retarded. --Mantequilla (talk) 17:55, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
- He is, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't rip into him. ED - the only unbiased source for everything.
CobaltCat 00:20, 8 October 2014 (EDT)
- ED has never claimed to not be biased. --Mantequilla (talk) 18:43, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
- Not saying u can't have this article in mainspace, it just needs work. --Mantequilla (talk) 18:50, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
- What specifically needs to change in the article? VX •
18:56, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
- Grammar, spelling, each section should be more than a sentence. Back up claims better, etc. --Mantequilla (talk) 19:57, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
- I'll do everything. Give me a few days to finish a few other things. I'll fix this article too.
oddguy 18:58, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
- I'll do everything. Give me a few days to finish a few other things. I'll fix this article too.
- What specifically needs to change in the article? VX •
- Not saying u can't have this article in mainspace, it just needs work. --Mantequilla (talk) 18:50, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
- ED has never claimed to not be biased. --Mantequilla (talk) 18:43, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
- He is, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't rip into him. ED - the only unbiased source for everything.
- The problem IMHO is that the GamerGate article is full of well thought out arguments with a shitload of proof to back it up. The counter article is nothing but Ad Hominems and childish insults. It seems disingenuous. --Mantequilla (talk) 19:36, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
- I was hoping it would be easier to find shit on these fucks, but I guess not. I was also somewhat hoping that a SJW dared to move out of their comfort zone and tell people why these retards are horrible. But the only actual insults I could find against these guys were that they hated vagina. Well except RogueStarGamez. That part is decent. CobaltCat 00:04, 23 October 2014 (EDT)
- I apologize if anyone who helped writing this are offended, I am just trying to keep ED up to the standards we have been committed to since Sherrod shut us down. --Mantequilla (talk) 21:08, 23 October 2014 (EDT)
- I am very offended. But nah, it's cool. I wasn't satisfied with it. The problem is that most of the people on it actually can take a joke, and most of them haven't done anything coming close to being as retarded as the opposition. CobaltCat 00:31, 24 October 2014 (EDT)
- If you are really offended pls move it back out. I dont mean to offend anyone.--Mantequilla (talk) 01:32, 24 October 2014 (EDT)
- I am very offended. But nah, it's cool. I wasn't satisfied with it. The problem is that most of the people on it actually can take a joke, and most of them haven't done anything coming close to being as retarded as the opposition.
- I apologize if anyone who helped writing this are offended, I am just trying to keep ED up to the standards we have been committed to since Sherrod shut us down. --Mantequilla (talk) 21:08, 23 October 2014 (EDT)
- I was hoping it would be easier to find shit on these fucks, but I guess not. I was also somewhat hoping that a SJW dared to move out of their comfort zone and tell people why these retards are horrible. But the only actual insults I could find against these guys were that they hated vagina. Well except RogueStarGamez. That part is decent.
- I am offended by your overuse of the word "Offended". oddguy 11:06, 24 October 2014 (EDT)
- I am offended by your overuse of the word "Offended".
Thunderf00t
This guy is easy to tear apart. He's an idiot who attacks Xtians over creationism, without seeming to realize that he's actually just attacking a protestant heresy using a Catholic heresy to call anyone who disagrees with his heresy "irrational" via nonsensical axiomatic "assumptions" that amount to little more than verbal shell game. I'll add in more on that idiot later. He's actually sincerely arguing with a bible thumper using "common ground" assumptions. Facepalm. He's a scientist and he is very knowledgeable about a very particular lens on how to view reality and outside of that narrow lens he's clueless. He, LOL, is actually arguing against "God" with a capital G. LULZ!
What this all stems from is an erroneous understanding of Sir Francis Bacon's heretical conception of the "enchanted glass" of men's minds. The Wisdom of Solomon (in the translation that Bacon uses) states "God hath put the world (eternity) in man's heart yet cannot man find out the work which God worketh from the beginning to the end." Bacon takes a heretical understanding that it is possible to know of the beginnings and the ends of the heart of man and therefore the truth, from the Advancement of Learning Ch1 Sec 3,
"Solomon, speaking of the two principal senses of inquisition, the eye and the ear, affirmeth that the eye is never satisfied with seeing, nor the ear with hearing; and if there be no fulness, then is the continent greater than the content: so of knowledge itself and the mind of man, whereto the senses are but reporters, he defineth likewise in these words, placed after that calendar or ephemerides which he maketh of the diversities of times and seasons for all actions and purposes, and concludeth thus: “God hath made all things beautiful, or decent, in the true return of their seasons. Also He hath placed the world in man’s heart, yet cannot man find out the work which God worketh from the beginning to the end”— declaring not obscurely that God hath framed the mind of man as a mirror or glass, capable of the image of the universal world, and joyful to receive the impression thereof, as the eye joyeth to receive light; and not only delighted in beholding the variety of things and vicissitude of times, but raised also to find out and discern the ordinances and decrees which throughout all those changes are infallibly observed."
This is against the conception of not only Christianity but that of the entire ancient world as it was understood, and as Nietzsche attacked this with "There are no facts, only interpretations" though Augustine puts it better "If only men's minds could be seized and held still! They would see how eternity (the world, Man's hearts), in which there is neither past nor future, determines both past and future time. Could mine be the hand strong enough to seize the minds of men? Could any words of mine have power to achieve so great a task?"
The problem is that Christians only started interpreting scripture in the manner that he prefers (as its the only kind he's familiar with and therefore knows how to attack) since Luther's renunciation of signs in the name of his sola scriptura one literal meaning.--GSTalbert 14:28, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
So here's what I've made so far, not going to put anything like this up on the wiki. Just gathering here sources, quotes, and laying out a framework of attack. if anyone has anything to add or info or you see something wrong let me know. --GSTalbert 14:28, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
- I wouldn't cover Thunderf00t too much as he already has his own article. And I quoted you in the article you fag. CobaltCat 14:43, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
- Thanks man I'll move out my talk section on Thunderf00t elsewhere. I'm still looking over everything that went down and what each character did.--GSTalbert 16:00, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
I've been watching the whole Mike Cernovich/ideledillittante drama blow up this weekend. If she actually gets partyvaned it will be hilarious, as she'll be the only person to actually be arrested in this mess and probably deserves a page of its own (and I live two blocks away from this lolcow trufax). Freakangel 19:49, 26 October 2014 (EDT)
Who else should I add?
- I am making this article less shit. Gonne change its name to "The GamerGate Faggot Brigade"... Anyway, who else should be on this list? Nobody who already has his own article. Those articles are already linked in the template and there is no reason to add them here. I would add Boogie but I don't remember the number after his name. oddguy 16:45, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
- PressFartToContinue definitely deserves a spot, he's the only one of these people that has done genuinely disturbing things. He was involved in some big drama a while ago because Polaris banned him from their channels for stalking Dodger. The sections for the other dudes could be cut down a bit, they're somewhat repetitive. --5p4r74n 07:19, 1 November 2014 (EDT)
- I'd have to look into it (and I'm lazy) oddguy 07:26, 1 November 2014 (EDT)
- I'd have to look into it (and I'm lazy)
lol can you add a "This article shows that we are fair and balanced" on top of the banner. Jackfisher 06:55, 19 November 2014 (EST)
POTM?
what does POTM stand for? -hipcrime 
00:59, 20 January 2015 (EST)
- People Of The Movement. It was only a working title. But it just kinda stuck.
CobaltCat 01:12, 20 January 2015 (EST)
so it doesn't get lost
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