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User talk:Hipcrime/Archive 3
- JUNE 26, 2010 THROUGH OCTOBER 28, 2010 partial. Archive 0. Dot COM
- APRIL 20, 2011 THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 2011 Archive 1
- JANUARY 1, 2012 THROUGH MARCH 27, 2012 Archive 2
- MARCH 27, 2012 THROUGH JUNE 19, 2012 Archive 3
- JUNE 20, 2012 THROUGH NOVEMBER 24, 2012 Archive 4
- NOVEMBER 24, 2012 THROUGH FEBRUARY 8, 2013 Archive 5
- FEBRUARY 8, 2013 THROUGH MAY 1, 2013 Archive 6
- MAY 1, 2013 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 5, 2013 Archive 7
- SEPTEMBER 5, 2013 THROUGH MARCH 1, 2014 Archive 8
- MARCH 1, 2014 THROUGH JANUARY 31, 2015 Archive 9
- JANUARY 31, 2015 THROUGH NOVEMBER 5, 2015 Archive 10
- NOVEMBER 5, 2015 THROUGH NOVEMBER 21, 2016 Archive 11
- November 21, 2016 through May 26, 2017 remnant of Archive 12, labeled "NOVEMBER 21, 2016 THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 2018" (.RS)
- January 1, 2019 through June 26, 2019 [1] rich text paste of what would've been Archive 13. from Wayback. (.RS)
- February 22, 2020 through September 5, 2020 partial. Imported to .WIKI from .RS
- February 7, 2021 through December 31, 2023
- January 1, 2024 through December 31, 2024
First
Fix your .se's in links. - Vinland 20:51, 27 March 2012 (EDT)
Re: User:Slicezorr
Well, 'tis my job. Oh, and thanks for the bannstar, btw. --MilænorTSW 04:54, 28 March 2012 (EDT)
I never liked it anyway
Will you save me the misery of becoming obsessed with another hopeless article and just redirect Adventure Time to Exhibit C? There was a reason why its been deleted, twice. The text and jokes are pretty mediocre, I lost the passion of editing it after the first ten minutes and just made the rest half-assed. I'll keep the files in my user page just so they don't go unused. -Gray 00:00, 30 March 2012 (EDT)
- Thanks man. -Gray 00:20, 30 March 2012 (EDT)
Moving articles
I think I fucked up with moving an article to a users userspace, take a look at it plox BlittleMcNælsen/Luigirules33 and fix it if I fucked it up, also, could you post what you do to actually place the page to the userspace if I did it wrong.~ Sirkillsalot 06:01, 30 March 2012 (EDT)
RE: Futility
Nope. Don't have it which pisses me off a bit, too 3: DekoMan91 07:59, 1 April 2012 (EDT)
- We have this usused tho' http://encyclopediadramatica.se/File:Futility.jpg Could we use it as a placeholder till someone finds the real image? DekoMan91 08:05, 1 April 2012 (EDT)
- Mhh. So I searched a bit and with a ban appeal redirect I would place this image there then. DekoMan91 08:20, 1 April 2012 (EDT)
moo
Hey, why is Kingscrusher on deathnotice? I thaught it was funny enough... — Preceding comment added by CEREALkiller (talk • contribs), who is too much of a fucking retard to sign their own posts. IT'S FOUR TILDES (~~~~), NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!
I'll pass
I'll pass, kthnxbai. ~BabyDamien 01:25, 4 April 2012
missing AOTN
I saw it on the front page, so I tried to act quickly and use an AOTN of mine from before. Hope this is allowed. - Vinland 20:22, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
- Same with the QOTN! - Vinland 20:33, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
ohai Hipcrime
So much has changed! IRC is not as gay as I remember; also Oblique is SySop which is good. What else happened? OTHER THAN YOUR BRONY FAGGOTRY. TylerRosenow º Ӕ º ₡ º ✉ 20:26, 9 April 2012 (EDT)
- oic yu ar troll. but still, ponyfag. TylerRosenow º Ӕ º ₡ º ✉ 22:49, 9 April 2012 (EDT)
you
HIPCRIME
i love you :D Zapjaste 04:24, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
Namespace
Regarding emolicious that's because I made a link on File:Deviantartpedobingo.png because he was mentioned on the lower right and figured people might be wondering who it referred to. But I didn't really have adequate material to make an article or anything. Are redirects like that really that bad? If at some later point someone wanted to make an article about an ED user the redirect could simply be removed and replaced with article content right? Ty c 00:26, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
Months
Spacecase. Ty c 00:38, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
- I was making up for lost time =/ Can at least do it to archived talk? Ty c 00:47, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
- but then who was months? Ty c 00:51, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
Archive 4
RE: Less Than Zero
Cool beans, it's kinda slow and weird so i'll understand if you don't like it. Nice new sig btw Elvis 19:29, 19 April 2012 (EDT)
Looks awesome but a Q about the source code and the URL that shows up. I assume Server/Scriptpath is so that it would automatically change if the URL wasn't ED.se anymore? But about the rest of it: /index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid= is all of it necessary? I think all that's needed for a diff is index.php?diff= right? Example. Pretty sure title=& as well as prev&oldid= aren't necessary and the diff could function without them, making for shorter URL. Ty c 16:58, 20 April 2012 (EDT)
Oy
Regarding the omitted data, could it go on a sub page or something? Some stuff like the sock and wayback links for the previous ED versions are valuable history to the article's content prior to the later version that was re-founded on ch/se. Deleting the socks in particular kinda sucks =/ I hadn't even figured out who was running them. Ty c 03:05, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
Regarding your deletion of StalkerLovesRodBurch, there's a reason I had the link as he seemed like an interesting individual worthy of making an article about. I figured there would've been already. I'm not entirely sure who he is, but much like MeanBlackDude he seems to have taken issue with me. Also curious why you removed the previous two images. Those were ED originals, ED had an article before anyone ever did, and instead you just replace with some pic off this dumb new EU ripoff? =/ The classics were way more cultured. Ty c 03:18, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
- Um no, I'm not here 'only' to do that. It's well known I was an ED member before getting an article, and I didn't create it to begin with. I'm primarily here out of interest in other content. If vanity were the prime interest I wouldn't maintain an active desire to have the article deleted :D Ty c 03:23, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
Wasn't delinking, I linked to the history and the most recent version is easily accessible from it. The reason I do that is because EU doesn't provide a 'history' link like normal wikis do. So you can only view it if you manually know the URL that wikis use. It's their fault for trying to cover up who makes their edits. If they had a history button I wouldn't have done that. My URL makes more information available, such as when edits were made and who made them.
As for the peter pan hat, I didn't add that. Years ago I added the normal picture to a forum, a person added the hat, and later found out about the ED and added it there too. I believe his name was Lobo. Threatened to bomb my mailbox, pretty nice guy. This wouldn't be the first time ED hosts pics of people with drawings on it, lol. Ty c 03:40, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
- Ah well, I'm not good at making stuff exciting, I've been barred from subtracting lies but I figured I could at least add facts, and truthfully documenting internet drama involved adding that. Also: you removed the picture that Dookie and that other girl drew on me. Those were parody cartoons from the original 2006 article dude. Ty c 03:55, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
Mkay will do. But you know full well most of the articles here were simply whatever was the last version from WayBack we could nab from the old ED since we couldn't get the original dox to use Import/Export which would've maintained the history. So since most articles here aren't built from scratch, pretending the history didn't happen is odd. Ty c 04:14, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
Your sig
YOU CHANGED IT FROM RAINBOW DASH AND I AM FUCKING DISAPPOINT. Equivamptalk 17:07, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
because Tyciol is being a jerk
here is the revision that was reverted, because the little freak will not click the [+] button and refrain from refactoring the page:
==Nowiki== Lol they might accidentally click the links. <sup>[[User talk:Tyciol|Ty]]</sup>[[File:TyIcon.jpg|15px|me]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tyciol|c]]</sub> 02:04, 23 April 2012 (EDT)
- -hipcrime 03:44, 23 April 2012 (EDT)
More like other people are being jerks for rejecting my kindness =( BTW Hip impressed with your wiki skills but wouldn't using ref tags/section be a lot easier than supspanplainlinks? Helps to collect external URLs at the bottom, if mimicing TOW's the aim. Ty c 05:17, 23 April 2012 (EDT)
BTW
As far as I can tell you haven't added any original content, you're morphing it into an EU mirror. ED had the article before PJ ever did, and it's supposed to be something better. Also I thought not doxing was an accepted policy? Or maybe that died with the old wiki, I dunno. Ty c 05:27, 23 April 2012 (EDT)
Signature
Thanks for the heads-up about my signature, I didn't realise that. Touch Wood it should be ok now TUXLIE 16:33, 24 April 2012 (EDT)
Those shitty pro-pony videos.
Why do you even want them there, brony? Lord Tony 00:07, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
Redlink removals
Why do you keep doing that? Red links aren't a bad thing, they encourage new articles to be made. Constantly removes them chills creation. Not everyone knows that they can type a URL and do 'create' to make a page, this makes it easy for anyone who knows about the people. In many cases articles already exist about people, I just found that out with McBride. Furthermore, even if they do not, they may in the future. People involved in 1 drama are likely to be involved in others, and the glaring red draws in such information from those knowledgeable of it. Ty c 02:10, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
- Plausible, (un)likely, crap, aren't these all subjective opinion-label adjectives involving guesswork? I mean, who even cares about crapstubs? A lot of good articles can start this way. A need is expressed, more talented orators come along to better edit what the uneloquent aspies could not. Ty c 02:24, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
"plausible future subjects shouldn't be a problem, for example: Beta M" ...30 minutes... *removes brackets from Beta M ... makes sense. Ty c 02:54, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
Collapsing
BTW speaking of Beta, do you know if there is a way I could change the URL so that when people click it, the first (green colored) section won't be auto-collapsed? I got confused searching for the Mar 7 comment and all those first subsections until I realized clicking on it opened it. A lot of casual browsers might not figure this out, but clicking the uncollapse/view arrow doesn't appear to change the URL so I'm not sure how to code it. Ty c 02:28, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
- I guess I'll ask JT about it. BTW... oh THAT April 16. Strong ambiguous year. Ty c 05:11, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
- K so based on [2] it's okay if I revert it to 2012's Apr16 instead? Before all the deletion? Though I'd add in this contribution since BM wanted it in. You have a good point about the data being too high. I'd just like to keep all the wikipedia-related stuff in (better drama) and if anything had to be culled it'd be LJ or YT stuff. Perhaps since that's mostly from the old ED I could put in in a history sub-page and just link it? I know I'm not Jessi Slaughter or Chris-chan but it basically just keeps it there (it's not something being actively edited) and out of the way for people editing the page so the data is less. Also wondering if in the spirit of NoPowerWord 2012 bronyship that this could be baleeted? Ty c 05:23, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
Ginger Slap
I added the screencaps Lemonkeyface 18:08, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
Wanted to change my username, don't know how
I want to change my username for when I log in to match my new signature, but I'm not sure how to do that.
Rms 17:20, 26 April 2012 (EDT)Rpgingmaster
- So Template:Ponyrape wants to be Rms instad of Rpgingmaster? Ty c 02:25, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
- Would like to apologize, was not aware terms of bronyship applied to moving sig to right instead of below as is standard. I think you can see good faith was demonstrated by leaving whitespace below/in title. I will attempt to remember not to do this on your talk. Yours has 'use new section' warning but not about the sig-move or not to use unsigned. I prefer your Template:Unsigned2 due to its politeness and would like to use it from now on at article/community talk pages, but will remember to avoid its use here. You're the only memorable person out of protesters so that's why I think a talk template for others to use so I remember not to fuck with theirs would be useful. It's even possible months from now I'll forget about this so that's why one for yours would also be good, as well as for preventing others from doing it. Ty c 04:42, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
K I can remember 64+u+Oblique & kills/mike/vamp at present, I'm just worried I'll forget later, thus the idea for a template. Wikipedia:WP:TPO is sort of what I was operating on where it would be okay to do stuff like tag unsigneds. I believe what others were protesting was months/whitespace, are they also against unsigned temping? Ty c 05:03, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
2012 Bronyship Accord inquiry
After this request and this permission would it be acceptable to proceed with my hobby? Ty c 05:09, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
- i would like it very much if you stopped bugging me. -hipcrime 05:11, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
Nope
After having 3 ponies attack me within five minutes I don't think I'm the one that's upset. Lord Tony 05:22, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
- It's okay bro. Lord Tony 05:25, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
- How about a truce? You seem like the only decent brony here despite your pony vandalism. Normal ED would just use kittens and goatse. Lord Tony 05:39, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
- I totally wanted to bold the only decent brony in the above post but hip might rage if I did. How to become decent in the eyes of Tony? Ty c 05:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
- there is no "might rage" to it. my
requestdemand is simple: do not modify the comments of other users. -hipcrime 05:43, 27 April 2012 (EDT) [edited] 05:44, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
- there is no "might rage" to it. my
- I totally wanted to bold the only decent brony in the above post but hip might rage if I did. How to become decent in the eyes of Tony? Ty c 05:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
- How about a truce? You seem like the only decent brony here despite your pony vandalism. Normal ED would just use kittens and goatse. Lord Tony 05:39, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
"How to become decent in the eyes of Tony?" by not obsessing over a show for five year old little girls. Lord Tony 05:46, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
re:Truce
Could had fooled me, there are plenty of bronies over the age of 43 out there. Lord Tony 05:45, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
- Well there is uploading, posting, etc anything pony related anywhere and then undoing anything that is against ponies in general sort of thing that made me believe you were a brony. Lord Tony 05:51, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
You even have tycoil or whatever his name following you around like you were his pony leader. Lord Tony 05:52, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
- Actually I sometimes obsessively refresh Special:RecentChanges to see what's active, and was interested in you due to empathizing with your poor censored article. He is my leader in the sense that he's a SysOp and I'm a lowly editor, and because I'm being blackmailed, but thas about it. Ty c 05:54, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
- i feel compelled to address this. tyciol is not being blackmailed... only encouraged to observe talk page etiquette. he will not comply with simple requests, so other tactics are used now, and they seem to be more effective than requests. -hipcrime 06:54, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
Not very surprising for a 43 year old to be a brony. Lord Tony 08:16, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
- On the contrary, I can comply with simple requests if they're clear enough. I only had in mind whitespace under topics and no-months at first. Then you added the detail of not moving sigs next to names. It just takes a while to amend various habits that haven't caused problems until recently. You mentioned wanting the Accord in writing, I'm willing to do that but in that case please don't assist Mike in removing relevant drama information from the page. Removal of the newspaper articles and wiki drama in preference to showing an irrelevant YT dispute & pictures my old pet is kinda outdated. Ty c 18:58, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
Fix my header
^ Lord Tony 11:24, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
Was wondering if there's a space here to archive trope pages
As my new account page states, I'm more than a little pissed off some of the pages on TV Tropes that are vaguely interesting are getting hosed, so is there anywhere on site I can archive some of the lulzier stuff before what's left of them gets the DELETE_FUCKING_EVERYTHING treatment?
Rms 04:14, 28 April 2012 (EDT)Rms
Much obliged for the help
Thanks for the help.
FYI, the slash and burn to TV Tropes has yet to be fully realized, so I won't be posting anything for awhile, so for now I just plan to save as many pages as possible (some I'm having to reconstitute from the history archives by hand), then, once most of the lulz hosing is "complete", I plan to start uploading a zipped archive (since most to all of this stuff is text) with as much as I can save somewhere and putting a link on TV Tropes page itself.
One last thing, if you know anyone else who's angry at TV Tropes and making the life of their admins miserable (particularly the panel of assholes they have enforcing this anti-lulz bullshit), pass along my regards, would you?
Rms 14:15, 28 April 2012 (EDT)Rms
Saving images and pages left and right, was wondering if you know any good HTML coders
I'm saving all the pictures in their native formats (JPG/GIF/PNG) and all the pages as text files (so anyone can edit this stuff to look right regardless of web browser or operating system).
However, I'm a terrible HTML coder and have no fucking clue how to begin reposting it up here on ED looking like it did on TV Tropes (before it was raped and molested), so do you know anyone I can get in touch with who can take all my saved material and work on that?
P.S. - I'm only saving pages that are long (if it was a really short article I didn't bother), are unlikely to survive without heavy sanitizing to be "family friendly", or were particularly lulzy regardless of article length.
Rms 15:15, 28 April 2012 (EDT)Rms
RE:equals and pipe
What's with hidan141's page
I thought all author requested deletions are deniedThis place is amazing 21:39, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
Lifting Ban
Thanks dude! It was just a simple mistake, but appreciate your help!!! From what I can see, if you undo a revision, but remove the "undo" line in the change description, it blanks the page. That's what I believe happened. It also wouldn't let me repost the article until I cut it in half, so something about length too. But thanks again! --Lulzs3ct 10:55, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
Good news!
I've already managed to save a metric ton of stuff that was particularly lulzy in it's original HTML source (in txt format).
The pictures weren't included (they aren't hard to find anyway), but the amount of pages I've saved from disappearing into the abyss already numbers in the hundreds.
I plan to continue saving stuff until the D_F_E cascade trickles down, but I can already guarantee that the archive of saved pages, even heavily compressed, is going to be a few megabytes large.
BTW, do you know where I can find links to utilities that save an entire web page archive from the website server?
It would greatly accelerate my efforts.
Rms 01:00, 1 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
Almost ready to post my archive
I've finished saving most of the things that we're going to die that was of the most direct interest following the news of the TV Tropes April 2012 purge, and I'm about to upload the archive to a file sharing mirror (it's a little over a megabyte), but before I did I had a few questions.
1. Could I post a direct link here on ED? (as in, it can be direct downloaded off ED's own servers?)
2. I included a disclaimer describing what the archive can and can't be used for legally, and I was wondering if you could communicate with me privately so I could show you a copy of it before I make the link available.
Preferably via a private email or a private chat of some sort, since I want to make sure I don't get myself or ED in hot water by posting it beforehand.
Note: I don't plan to save anymore pages, since most of the things that had people up in arms are already preserved and I really don't plan to save every new page some deletionist at TV Tropes feels like BAAWWWWWWing about.
Rms 03:51, 1 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
Actually, after a few revision's, here a copy of the disclaimer I plan to include.
Let me know what you think:
This archive contains many pages that were slated for deletion from TV Tropes in April 2012 following a policy decision partially motivated by pressure from their site funding sponsors, Google AdSense, and partially because the website moderators and their leader, Fast Eddie, elected to use this as a springboard to remove many things they found to be personally offensive and not within their desired website aims.
The content they wanted to remove was trope pages dedicated to works with strong sexual content, works with potentially underage characters (drawn, not live action, which is technically legal to a certain extent under current US law as of 2012) engaged in sexual situations, and some pages were just devoted to works that are shocking in terms of gore, sex, or are simply "grossout" related in nature), and while their motives are certainly understandable, their flagrant demonization of all of the content they wanted to cut as "pedoshit and porn" was considered by many, including myself, to be overly offensive and derogatory.
For instance, one of the work pages was for the borderline hentai manga Aki Sora, which was cut as "pedoshit porn", despite the fact it has characters that are at least high school age who do not overtly resemble prepubescent children, and their ages are clearly established as being within acceptable limits for Japan (it's country of origin) and many areas in the U.S, so in terms of artistic depiction it is not pedophilic in nature nor was it marketed as such.
(It also avoided showing any direct display of the lower genitals throughout the work, which by US and Japanese standards are a key part of the definition of a pornographic depiction)
The story itself had heavy themes related to incest (the main characters are family members engaged in illicit sexual liasons), and the page was cut for being a work devoted to porn (as in a story with sex without any real plot attached), which is a flagrant lie. Aki Sora is actually a very indepth deconstruction of how incest is portrayed in pornography, and it is protrayed as very tragic and abnormal, with the intent of showing that, in real life, incest is certain not normal regardless of the emotional feelings the particpants have for each other or their physical attractiveness, and the story shows in many instances the serious mental trauma such sexual practices can have on the individuals involved, and the story itself uses the sex as a vehicle to pursue the themes of how incest can be traumatizing.
Of course, one's interpretation my vary, but regardless, it did have a clear narrative, but it and many other trope pages about works that used sexual themes to galvanize their plots were all lumped to together as vapid, tasteless, completely plotless porn and consigned to deletion for being offensive, regardless of the context.
However, in the interest of balance, many of the pages in this archive were in fact more pornographic and offensive than anything that resembled a narrative, and their deletion as a result is rather reasonable in hindsight, as anything that does not constitute troping something with a halfway decent narrative does fall outside TV Tropes' purview.
Also, while TV Tropes was designed to catalog all media regardless of bias and list their writing conventions, it is their website to modify, and while I find it regrettable they have elected to ignore the wishes of their members who wanted this content archived in some manner, I do not contest they have the right (and if motivated legally, the obligation) to remove what they don't wish to host/endorse or find questionable/offensive/obscene unilaterally if they choose.
However, the fact they did not even seriously consider saving any of this content and rather coldly told the tropers they would not commit any official effort to saving it in some form was considered a cold move on their part, and since they did tell the tropers that if they wanted it saved the tropers would have to do so on their own, I decided to step up and do for them what the official moderators of the site would not do themselves, hence this archive.
Everything in here is a text file copy of the HTML source of the pages that were deleted or in danger of being so completely edited as to barely resemble their original selves. None of the pictures attending the pages were saved, and in the interest of legality, this archive is merely to be downloaded for private use only. None of this material should be used to defame, insult, or troll TV Tropes in any way (if I ever find out it was, I will report it to the appropriate authorities), and while it was posted in the public domain, I request that the wishes of TV Tropes to no longer be associated with this material be respected and that it's contents not be used to harass the tropers (users), moderators, or especially the site administrator (Fast Eddie), and any reposting of this material on a third party website merely be done for historical purposes, much like how this archive was intended.
It is, and shall remain, a mere archive of material that was to be cut from the website that a copy was instead made to prevent its total elimination from the Internet in lawful protest against what many tropers saw as a biased culling process that stripped TV Tropes of material some found morally offensive but was otherwise not causing any actual trouble by its mere existence. That, and to provide an alternative venue to view the content they were legally requested to remove by Google Adsense or any other sponsoring affiliates to prevent the loss of the ad revenue that was the backbone of their site funding.
In closing, this is not a complete archive, merely a sampling of some of the more prolific works that were up for deletion, and it is by no means comprehensive. If anyone wishes to update and add to this archive in the future they may feel free to do so, as long as whatever is done with it does not violate any laws and respects the legal sovereignty of TV Tropes and it is not used to injure them, their members, or their reputation in any way.
Finally, I hope this archive proves useful to those who download it.
- Rms
It probably needs some tweaking, and since I planned to post a link to the fileshared archive (I plan to use mediafire and sendspace) on ED, I was wondering if I could make a page for this disclaimer on ED with the link included (as a subpage to the main TV Tropes article)
P.S. - Sorry if this is kinda long (I plan to edit this for conciseness if necessary), but I hope this keeps mine and ED's ass out of any legal trouble)
Rms 12:32, 1 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
The legal sense they were deleting stuff for was in the interest of Google Adsense, who refuse to provide ad supported funding for the website if they have works that will cause the ads to redirect to adult related material and hence request the site be as homogenized as possible to comply with their wishes.
As for actual legal (as in storing material illegal by US law) reasons, to my knowledge they have not received any complaints from anyone in a lawsuit, and most of the removals of content not motivated by Google Adsense is being done because of the personal bias of the moderators of TV Tropes against certain content they do not wish to host on their website, regardless of it's narrative quality or context.
Also, I know you guys have your servers based in Ukraine which generally gives ED a pretty wide legal latitude, so this disclaimer is more insurance than actual worry on my part, since you guys host the deleted article on this very website without any trouble, much like how the wiki on Chris-chan has an archive of the unmongled Sonichu article they display without any problem.
Rms 13:22, 1 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
Have uploaded the archive to mediafire and sendspace, was wondering if this should be added instead to the main TV tropes page, or if I should make a subpage that links to the main TV Tropes article?
Note: Added a small notice to the disclaimer that points out nothing in the archive is illegal by US law (and it's already a given that the public domain nature of the archive content the mere existence of an archive of these pages is legal under the fair use policies of wikimedia), which, upon another reexamination of all the pages and the legal history of TV Tropes, is apparently true.
Rms 13:52, 1 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
The main TV Tropes article is pretty long, and I wanted to post the disclaimer for the file download on that page (with the download links below), but if that would make the page too bloated (it's pretty large at present), I was wondering if the whole thing shouldn't be spun off into it's own subpage (with a redirect link to to the main TV Tropes article.
Rms 14:01, 1 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
I'm having trouble.
I tried adding this stuff to the TV Tropes page and it blanked the page for some reason.
I undid that and restored the page to normal, but could you look it over and help me figure out why?
Rms 14:31, 1 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
Update: I tried to add a small subheading titled "The Response to the Great Pedocide, included a brief description of said response, a copy of the disclaimer above (in italics), and below mirror link to sendspace and mediafire to download the trope pages archive.
Everytime I tried to do this, it blanked the page for some reason, forcing me to revert back to the previous version of the page.
I have no idea what the hell I'm doing wrong here, and any help would be appreciated.
Rms 14:46, 1 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
Tyciol
What happened? --JuniusThaddeus 08:24, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
- That's fine. Thanks for unblocking him. --JuniusThaddeus 17:37, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
re: ponyfag dramatica
Well why don't you add something to the article then? I'm drawing a blank on the brony hate. Lord Tony 11:26, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
IT IS DONE!
I have finally gotten everything posted!
I had to make a subpage (a link to which is on the main page for TV Tropes) since the TV Tropes page is getting too unstable to edit (note: we might need to do that to some other sections of the page to keep it manageable), but so far it all seems to work.
Here's the link.
http://encyclopediadramatica.se/TV_Tropes_Response_To_Pedocide
It could probably use some editing and spicing up for a little lulz, but otherwise my great work is done.
And now, much like God, I'm going to rest my lazy ass after being pleased with my works.
Here's hoping I did a decent job.
Rms 18:34, 1 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
RE: Derpy Hooves
It's understandable since edit history can get muddled when things get moved. I just couldn't stand the thought of that whiny bastard Tony taking credit for something that was born in a beautiful moment of seething disgust and pure hatred. BakaRed 00:21, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
There will be an Electric Boogaloo to my archive
After having seen how well my archive was taken (and since TV Tropes is still purging pages left and right), and will be rereleasing my archive, only this time it will be MUCH bigger (since they are hosing a lot more.
And, thanks to the Internet Wayback Machine, some of the pages they scrubbed, scrubbed again, then hit with a Satellite Ion Cannon just be to be sure, will be saved as well, even if I have to manually reconstruct the busted strands of HTML code myself.
Honestly, TV Tropes is turning into a sanitized, sterile shell of its former self, and while I plan to passively archive what I can save from the abyss, I really would not blame someone with less scruples and more PC knowledge for trolling the hell out of them, because, to use a trope term, THEY have become the Asshole Victim in my eyes.
Rms 22:53, 3 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
UPDATE: I recently found out that TV Tropes is going one step further.
Once the page is dead, locked, and salted, they want every mention of the page removed from the wiki in ANY context (clean or otherwise).
Seriously, TV Tropes is turning into George Orwell's night terrors.
Rms 23:14, 3 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
BronyCrime
I think we should be pals. Otherwise I fear you will have a nervous breakdown in the near future. Friendship is magic. Dancingsandwich 08:30, 4 May 2012 (EDT)
RE:
its not wiki banned, it just cant access the site at all ♥♥♥ 03:16, 6 May 2012 (EDT)
The TV Tropes Lulz Preservation Project, Electric Boogaloo!
Thankfully, the deletionists are finally losing steam, so now my archive (which has ballooned from 150-200 pages to nearly 400) is pretty well complete for now, and I have since updated the links.
That said, I have to admit I'm a little pissed so many of the Hentai Game pages got taken down, and I was wondering if I could resurrect them (in ED style) in the games section here, and maybe even add some new pages.
For instance, one new page I'd like to add (because I know TV Tropes would shit blood at the mere idea) is about a straight shotacon game called Kawakaburi No Cherry (recently translated into English).
However, even though I know there is a page on shotacon here, I don't know if it would be considered CP or not, so could you let me know if it would be fine to make?
Rms 20:14, 7 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
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Porting over some hentai game articles, and a question
I'm trying to add some of the lulzier hentai games to the gaming section, and here is a work in progress page for Monster Girl Quest.
Anyway, I have a question: Why is there no "PC" subheading in the Gaming Portal?
We have subheadings for consoles and handhelds, but nothing for PC only games, and since I have no clue how to fix that, I thought you'd want to make whoever watches over those pages aware it needs help.
Rms 04:34, 14 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
- It appears that Portal:Gaming lacks caretakers like other portals (such as Sex or Wikipedia) have. Do you think it would be a good idea to create a template to tag portals which require caretakers so that there could be an easily viewable category of them to post on Thizzlehat for adoption? Ty c 16:19, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
- Portal maintenance is entirely open. They don't have caretakers anymore. Mike the Great (talk) 16:48, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
- If you're going to create more hentai game articles, make sure you include one for Maiden Rape Assault: Violent Semen Inferno. Reasonably internets-relevant; it's been used to troll newfags on /jp/ now for six years. – NuclearDuckie 10:03, 19 May 2012 (EDT)
- … or, for the four years that /jp/ has existed, plus whatever board VNs used to be discussed on before the split. – NuclearDuckie 11:30, 24 May 2012 (EDT)
- If you're going to create more hentai game articles, make sure you include one for Maiden Rape Assault: Violent Semen Inferno. Reasonably internets-relevant; it's been used to troll newfags on /jp/ now for six years. – NuclearDuckie 10:03, 19 May 2012 (EDT)
Hey
Can you plz let that guy edit his talk page, User:Halcy wanted to talk to him, and there's not really anything he can do there. Mike the Great (talk) 19:40, 15 May 2012 (EDT)
- I doubt he'll be smart enough to realize what's going on though, unfortunately. Mike the Great (talk) 19:43, 15 May 2012 (EDT)
=Thu May 17=
Hey
I thought I should let you know I commandeered this account for bot practice since nobody wanted it anymore. Z wanted something about replacing nao with now in all project pages/links to them and I'm going to work on that first. — Robert "Tyciol" Jordan — gay as fuck 01:21, 17 May 2012 (EDT)
I suck
please clean up after me[3] and be sure to flush the talk page. I moved wrong. Mike the Great (talk) 14:44, 22 May 2012 (EDT)
ops
Don't op anyone who isn't staff in irc ever again. Not even halfops. Ever. I'm serious. thanks. --zaiger (talk) 22:02, 23 May 2012 (EDT)
yo
why did you delete that Truthiracy article? i thought we were bros, Raoul. was that level of satire too high for the 'new' ED? waka waka waka Christopher C Lord
- yes, hello. i need to look at it, and i dont see it under that exact title. could it have been spelled differently, or had any odd capitalization? -hipcrime 19:11, 24 May 2012 (EDT)
Gay ponies?
Did you dye the pony or something? Mississippi 11:48, 25 May 2012 (EDT)
I do not believe
That this replacement is interchangeable. Replacing with accused/suspected as those is more neutral terminology. Ty c 16:38, 29 May 2012 (EDT)
- Regarding CHILDPROTECT, are there any better possible names? It seems the simplest *shrug* . Ty c 09:19, 30 May 2012 (EDT)
The truth behind the TV Tropes April 2012 Pedocide!
I finally found out the full truth behind the Pedocide, and not surprisingly, had Fast Eddie not been such a lazy fuck, it need not have happened in the first place, and I finally found the smoking gun.
In fact, I plan to update my archive again (this time with many, many lulzy pages I could saved before lie the horrible fanfics, all the Kodomo No Jikan pages, and lots of other stuff I thought was gone forever) and I have rewritten the disclaimer to call him and his most odious minions out on the real reasons behind all this faggotry, and below is my updated disclaimer, which I was hoping you would give me an opinion on:
UPDATE: After careful investigation of the true origins of the April 2012 purges, the true cause of the TV Tropes purge is a result of trolls and perverts posting links to tentacle pornography on the Naughty Tentacles page of TV Tropes, which angered Google, who merely wanted the offending page removed until it was no longer containing the offensive material.
This said, Fast Eddie, in what can only be interpreted as a belated attempt to look responsible, first instituted his own personal purge of pages he had arbitrarily determined to be hentai, porn, or simply items he didn't want articles on for reasons known only to himself, and even some of the items (like the pages on the book "Lolita") were restored after a little bit of reason was applied to the situation, he then decided to continue the purges, albeit with a panel of moderators called the P5 (which is shorthand for "The Panel to Prevent Pedophilia and Perversity", or something to that effect) to officially do this task on his behalf.
To be fair, many of the items deleted were purged after careful review by individuals who put their own prejudices on park and deleted articles devoted purely to the prurient interest, encouraged or glorified pedophilia, or were merely so devoted to shock value they would have fallen under the definition of obscenity by default (as established by the U.S Supreme Court).
Some of the items were and still are hotly contested, but in fairness to the panel, all except one have been professional and courteous in their efforts.
The one odious party who is the exception is a P5 member named "Martello"
"Martello", according to his trope page, admits to having a strong bias against rape and pedophilia, regardless of context, and despite the fact his motives are, on their face, somewhat sympathetic, he has also deleted many works under the admitted influence of drunkenness or during a hangover, has been verbally abusive to fans of hentai and hentai games, labeling them with the pejorative term "pedoshit" regardless of their actual literary value, and has made it clear he would even delete trope pages for things like "Mother-Daughter Threesome" or "Naughty Tentacles" which reasonable cases to preserve them could be argued (after being sanitized and locked as was done to the Hentai page by Fast Eddie) out of little more than a combination of allowing his personal morality to trump his objectivity and sheer spite.
Also, his claims that his term "pedoshit" is widely loved, is, to be honest, a lie. Many tropers are disgusted with his one sided bigotry and his crude language, and while pedophilia is certain reprehensible and works devoted entirely to porn are very hard to defend, I (the author of this document) must admit, while I do not hate the man personally, his bias is galling, and despite his hatred of very acceptable targets, his abusive language and disparaging hatred against fans of works he finds abhorrent is in blatant violation of the very courtesy rules of the site he was given some degree of power over, and while Fast Eddie may be guilty of sloth and a shoddy attempts at face saving, his crimes pale in comparison to that if this abusive Jerk Ass (TV Tropes term for an insufferable person) who had spearheaded the deletion of many items in this archive, simply because he cannot be trusted to be objective and civil in the performance of his duties for TV Tropes.
As a result, not only is this archive (part of which owes a great debt to the Internet Wayback Machine) a lawful protest against an abuse of censorship started to cover up the incompetence of the site administrators, it is also a protest against the heavy handed abuses of power this "Martello" has committed in his capacity as one of the leaders of this purge, and a call for him to be stripped of his powers and banned from the troping community for his tyrannical activities.
And so, like Martin Luther King, I have a dream this madness will eventually end, like William Lloyd Garrison, I will proclaim this censorship for the injustice that it is and I will be heard, and on behalf of the tropers angered by the arbitrary purge that was instituted without their input and was poisoned with bias and hypocrisy from day one, this archive shall be my civil disobedience against the abuses outlined above against the TV Tropes community, much like how Henry David Thoreau refused to pay taxes to support the Civil War, which he felt was based on immorality he could not abide, this archive is my protest against the immoral abuse of the troping community as a result of their incompetent, hypocritical, abusive leadership, which I also cannot abide.
- Rms
Rms 03:41, 30 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
- You and Tyciol should get together and rape little boys or something. Also I fucking love wayback machine. Mike the Great (talk) 03:44, 30 May 2012 (EDT)
- In hindsight that was very inappropriate for me to say on Hipcrime's page. I might send him into post traumatic shock and he might have nightmares/daydreams about you and tyciol raping him. Mike the Great (talk) 03:46, 30 May 2012 (EDT)
- Are you calling Hip a little boy or something Mike? I love wayback too I just wish it scrolled more frequently. Things seemed more regularly archived in the past. I find with more recent web pages there's less scrolling, like the internet has grown so its resources get spread out. Ty c 09:31, 30 May 2012 (EDT)
Thanks for your patience
Sorry to trouble you about my little project, I just don't have anyone else I know who would help me with this little project of mine, and I just needed an opinion on if my disclaimers looked good.
BTW, since they are huge and have bloated your userpage quite a bit, mind if I cut them from the topics so you can have most of your current userpage back?
Rms 05:00, 30 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
Finally ported over the horrible fanfics pages from TV Tropes
The good news was that I was even able to save them at all.
http://encyclopediadramatica.se/TV_Tropes/Horrible_Fanfics
Unfortunately, the formatting is totally screwed up on all the subpages (I had to reconstruct most of these pages by hand) and the HTML code is a tortured mess, hence why the links to the page for the article now have a (WIP) tag on them.
If you know anyone who would be willing to help me get these pages straightened out, it would be nice.
Rms 19:02, 30 May 2012 (EDT)Rms
Decided to finally leave TV Tropes for good
I just recently hosed my account, and from what I understand, LOTS of people are voting with their feet and defecting in droves.
In fact, one of the most loyal members of that website (the man who wrote "Drunkard's Walk", one of the best megacrossover fanfictions on the internet), a guy who has been there since the site started (literally)...well, let's just say that even his frankly messianic patience was filed to nothing due to Fast Eddie's bullshit, so, after bitch slapping the bastard with a DMCA notice, he deleted and salted everything in his path and is now going around to several writing webrings and spreading the word about just how fucking terrible that shithole has become.
In short, the man is my fucking hero (and I recommend his fanfics, he's damn good at writing them).
Note: I still lurk on TV Tropes, and I'm still archiving shit, and I plan to as long as they keep trying to kill the lulz, and in the meantime, since you guys have taught me how to rework HTML code to the point I know what the hell I'm doing, I'm still going to be porting and restoring as much as possible for quite some time.
Rms 10:26, 1 June 2012 (EDT)Rms
re: checkuser
it's from vancouver. we need to put together all the reasons we have for believing that it is him editing the page, and we need to do it quick because I have media agencies interested :) --zaiger (talk) 12:14, 1 June 2012 (EDT)
Hello ...
Okay, this is totally fuckin' strange but it's cool because it IS totally fucking strange. I keep seeing this Hipcrime person everywhere, on ED, on the net, just freaking every place I go! I just see this fucking kitty running from some sort of rainbow, and I become transfixed and mesmerized. It's like a crazy acid drug!
--Psycho Princess 15:44, 1 June 2012 (EDT)
A certain article on this site looks like it's a butthurt attack article to me.
Hope Meyer is the article in question. Before you call white knight on me - I don't know anyone involved. Just look at the article. No internet relevance. One girl is pissed because a friend broke up with her. I thought ED was satire, not "omg look at how stupid my autistic ex friend is, plz go troll her! :D :D :D"
The author of the article is here and she can't take the hint that she's unfunny.
Thanks for your time. Are you butthurt? BAWWW here. 02:21, 2 June 2012 (EDT)
What I consider my greatest feat of internet necromancy yet
I thought it was gone forever.
Fast Eddie worked his ass off trying to kill this page with the fury of a million burning suns. It incurred his wrath and hatred in ways Eiken, Lotte No Omocha, and Kodomo No Jikan could only DREAM of making him mad.
In short, I found what has to be the lulziest page EVER written on TV Tropes (also one of the oldest on the site, to the tune of eight years), and thankfully, I was able to retrieve most to all of its contents in their original glory.
And here it is, the page that kicked off the Pedocide of April 2012:
http://encyclopediadramatica.se/TV_Tropes/NAUGHTY_TENTACLES
My hopes it is indeed as lulzy as I claim.
Rms 14:23, 2 June 2012 (EDT)Rms
The files that I upload get uploaded with the wrong name
Sometimes when I upload a file, it takes a while to load and just redirects me back to the upload file page. Then, when I try to upload another one, that one gets uploaded with the name of the first one that I tried to upload. Think you could flush this one. -Gray 16:23, 3 June 2012 (EDT)
Some admin pls delete George-Zimmerman-race.jpg and George-Zimmerman-race2.jpg. I'm happy with the third submitted image I made.
Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solis (talk • contribs)
RE: following up
It was a pleasure, thank you for having the foresight to restore it. ^_^ Luvur 13:47, 4 June 2012 (EDT)
Muaah!
<3
Hey - I'm pretty sure this is Magnotta, too - geolocates to Toronto. Anyways ... - Alliecat 03:26, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
PS: Could you add me to 'regulars' - the captcha is wrecking my head! xD - Alliecat 03:26, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
I hate the kittens page =
Braylo 21:15, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
Ponyfag dramatica
http://encyclopediadramatica.se/User:Lord_Tony/Ponyfag_Dramatica
This seems like it's ready to become a real article! Lord Tony 23:02, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
- Oh she's ready. Lord Tony 23:10, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
- I forgot how, how come you can't? Lord Tony 02:46, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
- "You do not have permission to do that, for the following reason:
- I forgot how, how come you can't? Lord Tony 02:46, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
You do not have permission to move pages." Lord Tony 17:53, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
- How come I can't move shit but Grace Saunder's alt can? Lord Tony 17:59, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
Message on Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Badmachine&diff=496275595&oldid=496243464 – I left you a message on That Other Wiki. --JuniusThaddeus 09:57, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
i lold
Help
Can you flush this article [[4]] please? I created it by accident. -Bystandah2012
Darling
Take a look at SysOp_Tasks, would you be nice and review all those deathnoticed articles ploxy? Hi, btw. Snape talk contribs 00:03, 12 June 2012 (EDT)
what happens when hipcrime joins #wikipedia-en
Could you redirect Zombie Apocalypse to Zombie
I just merged the articles. -Gray 23:31, 16 June 2012 (EDT)