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Burning question:
Is the IP address coming from a Manhattan law firm? I doubt we would be so lucky. If this leads to a fix on his real name, I'm willing to hold off on hivemind for 30 days in order to obscure the source of the information.
This is a promise, right? I'm thinking it should be more like 45 days, or else just quietly drop the whole thing, but regardless - if something like this were to get out, we'd lose a substantial amount of credibility over the whole "cyberstalking" issue.
But you know that I, for one, trust you - Gawd help me for doing so. So yes: got him.
He seems to work under the name Ira Matetsky:
"Spy Satellite Lands Israel in U.S. Court", New York Sun, July 13, 2007
http://www.lawyers.com/New-York/New-York/Ganfer-and-Shore,-LLP-500020-f.html
Ira Brad Matetsky (Member) born New York, New York, May 28, 1962; admitted to bar, 1987, New York; 1988, U.S. District Court, Southern and Eastern Districts of New York; 1995, U.S. Supreme Court and U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit; 1999, U.S. Court of Appeals, First and Third Circuits; 2001, U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia and Federal Circuits; 2006, U.S. District Court, Northern District of New York. Education: Princeton University (A.B., 1984); Fordham University School of Law (J.D., 1987). Staff, Fordham Law Review. Author: "Ignoring Rule 0.23: Citing Summary Orders in the Second Circuit," New York Law Journal, Feb. 9, 2004; "The Footnote Argument - Sustained at Last?" 6 Green Bag 2d 33 (Autumn 2002). Member, Board of Education, Baldwin Union Free School District, 1983-1989. Member, Commercial Division Law Report Committee. Member: New York State (Member, Committee on Appellate Practice) and American (Member, Litigation Section) Bar Associations; Association of the Bar of the City of New York; Federal Bar Council. Reported Cases: Goya Foods, Inc. v. Wallack Management Co., 141 F. Supp. 2d 107 (D.P.R. 2001), aff'd, 290 F.3d 63 (1st Cir.), appeal after remand, 344 F.3d 16 (1st Cir. 2003); Goya Foods, Inc. v. Unanue-Casal, 982 F.Supp. 103 (D.P.R. 1997), aff'd, 233 F.3d 38 (1st Cir. 2000), appeal after remand, 275 F.3d 124 (1st Cir. 2001); In re Merrill Lynch Limited Partnership Litigation, 154 F.3d 36 (2d Cir. 1998); Richied v. D.H. Blair & Co., 272 A.D.2d 170 N.Y.S.2d 25 (1st Dep't 2000). Practice Areas: Commercial Litigation; Securities Litigation. Email: Ira Brad Matetsky
I guess "Newyorkira" just didn't have the same ring to it...
I guess "Newyorkira" just didn't have the same ring to it...
He should have called himself Nu Yorica.
Good work guys.
This is a promise, right? I'm thinking it should be more like 45 days, or else just quietly drop the whole thing, but regardless - if something like this were to get out, we'd lose a substantial amount of credibility over the whole "cyberstalking" issue.
But you know that I, for one, trust you - Gawd help me for doing so. So yes: got him.
Thanks — I marked April 25 on my calendar. Maybe I'll wait a bit longer, depending on what happens in the meantime. That seems too easy; I wonder what sort of conspiracy Ira is cooking up on the back burner.
Maybe he figured that "resistance is futile." His post today was so "Nothing to see here, move along folks" that maybe he wants to be discovered by now. I mean, they have meets in NYC every month or two, and that's probably the only social life he's got. It must get uncomfortable to have people looking at you and wondering what your real name is.
It may be that Mr. Brad doesn't want people knowing too much about him because his firm works on behalf of Big Money™.
It may be that Mr. Brad doesn't want people knowing too much about him because his firm works on behalf of Big Money™.
That's quite possible. If anyone at The Firm gets interested in Wikipedia, he may look into the situation and then get nervous about the Foundation's liability. If that person has an axe to grind against Ira to begin with, in terms of office politics, this might be the proverbial straw vs. camel's back situation.
When Jimbo first designated Brad Patrick as general counsel, Patrick was still employed at the law firm of Fowler White Boggs Banker. In April 2006, I was on the #wikipedia IRC channel and said "hi" to Linuxbeak. Linuxbeak said, "Wait, I'll put you on a private channel with Jimbo." I said, "okay." This is the only time I've ever had any communication with Jimbo apart from emails and/or the initial snail-mail letter I sent to back up an email.
The IRC chat was unproductive, but it was clear that Jimbo was unaware of the new law that I describe on the top of hivemind, about harassing people on the Internet while hiding behind a screen name.
I then figured out who the expert on criminal law was at Brad Patrick's law firm, and wrote him a letter complaining about Patrick's nonfeasance. As the Foundation's attorney, Patrick should have fully advised the Foundation on this new law.
The next thing I knew, Brad Patrick was gone from Fowler White Boggs Banker, and was employed full-time by the Foundation. Go figure.
I told this story to Jeff Merkey on the telephone once, and his immediate response was that Brad Patrick was most likely invited to either leave the firm or leave Wikimedia Foundation. Merkey is quirky, but he has some good instincts about how these things work in the real world.
http://www.ganferandshore.com/sub/ira-brad-matetsky.jsp
Surprising someone didn't find this earlier ...
Earlier than today, you mean? But he tricked us! By being named "Ira"...
Anyway, all I was saying was that if his firm specializes in things like getting people kicked out of their condos for non-payment of exorbitant fees, or making people pay off business debts despite their already having declared bankruptcy, that's not something he'd want to have disclosed on Wikipedia, where the majority of users probably still frown on that sort of thing.
Education: Princeton University (A.B., 1984); Fordham University School of Law (J.D., 1987). Staff, Fordham Law Review
Mantanmoreland has a specific interest in Fordham Law School and its alumni- I know WB thinks this was trying to throw people of fthe scent but I'm not so sure.
OK, just been thinking about this and how it may well be a set up. If Brandt posts Brad on his hivemind how is he seriously going to say he found him? Whatever reason he comes up with, Brad will know how he got the info, then he will spill the beans and all "the cabal" will run around like headless chickens clucking-
"see what WR does!! They spy on your ip address and discuss it in their sooper seekrit forums!
Attack site Attack site. OH NOESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!"
OK, just been thinking about this and how it may well be a set up. If Brandt posts Brad on his hivemind how is he seriously going to say he found him? Whatever reason he comes up with, Brad will know how he got the info, then he will spill the beans and all "the cabal" will run around like headless chickens clucking-
"see what WR does!! They spy on your ip address and discuss it in their sooper seekrit forums!
Attack site Attack site. OH NOESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!"
Nah, Brad won't know unless there's a leak from this forum.
I did a Yahoo search of a bunch of Manhattan law firms looking for "brad" and this was one of them:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=site%3Awww.ganferandshore.com+brad
This snippet showed up for that search:
1.
Ganfer & Shore, LLP: SITE MAP
HOME. PRACTICE AREAS. Commercial Litigation. Real Estate ... Ira Brad Matetsky. Sandra L. Jacobus. Thomas J. Curran. Richard A. Krauss. Arthur Lieberman ...
www.ganferandshore.com/sub/site-map.jsp - 41k - Cached
I went to that page and found a link to Ira Brad Matetsky.
Clicked on that link and a spittin' image of the new photo was staring back at me.
This all happened yesterday! I started this thread today merely because I wanted to be sure!
OK, just been thinking about this and how it may well be a set up. If Brandt posts Brad on his hivemind how is he seriously going to say he found him? Whatever reason he comes up with, Brad will know how he got the info, then he will spill the beans and all "the cabal" will run around like headless chickens clucking-
"see what WR does!! They spy on your ip address and discuss it in their sooper seekrit forums!
Attack site Attack site. OH NOESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!"
Nah, Brad won't know unless there's a leak from this forum.
If you want to take the darker view... maybe he suspects the goods are already out (could his law firm have picked up Daniel's IP address, for one example) and is setting us up?
Whether or not Daniel actually got the IP address from here, the Wikipediots will be told:
1. Brad posted here.
2. Daniel got the IP address.
3. Daniel added Brad to hivemind.
They will NOT be told that 1 doesn't lead to 2 which doesn't lead to 3. The Big Lie will be perpetuated instead.
So did Brad post here in order to grease the wheels for the Big Lie?
And should we worry that his initials are IBM?
We won't know unless he posts again, I suspect. That's why I figured it was important to challenge him somewhat, possibly play to his ego a little bit...
The other thing we have going for us is the fact that he presumably posted that from a work computer... If he's a junior partner then he can probably get away with whatever he wants, but at least it's a potential response if there does happen to be a leak. Another might be our previously-stated position that we only wanted to reduce the chance of a "false positive" making it into hivemind.htm.
Other than that, 30-45 days should be enough, in the absence of leaks. It's not like they haven't accused us of that sort of thing before, and I'll take responsibility, of course (not that I expect the issue to even come up).
We won't know unless he posts again, I suspect. That's why I figured it was important to challenge him somewhat, possibly play to his ego a little bit...
If he only posts once that makes it more suspicious imo, i.e. he just came here to allow his ip address to be seen. I mean, come on, Brad must know if he was posting from his work that his ip address could be traced- he also knew that Brandt wanted to know and Somey that you often stand up for Brandt and would likely give out the ip address if Brandt asked, even if merely to put an end to all the whoisnewyorkbradthreads.
Note to mod: could someone split this into a new Jayjg thread starting from my note to Daniel at the bottom of this post.. Thanks
done
Didn't Brad refuse to sign up to WR with an email from his ISP?
But then he posts here from an IP that resolves to where he is employed. Either he is totally clueless about IP addresses or he surrendered. Somebody may put together that--Brad posted here + Brad is on hivemind=WR hacked him!!!!--and provoke hysteria, but it will not be Brad. Actually, I would not be surprised if nobody on Wikipedia makes this connection anyway, as their collective attention spans and memories are amazingly short.
Didn't Brad refuse to sign up to WR with an email from his ISP?
But then he posts here from an IP that resolves to where he is employed.