Skype Con Leak/31 dec

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[31/12/2014, 12:00:43 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahahahahaha
[31/12/2014, 12:01:12 AM] Athena Hollow: juicebro continuously goes further into the rabbit hole until he can only communicate with red mspaint lines
[31/12/2014, 12:01:12 AM] Annie Kelly: damn third party trolls that mysteriously attack everyone who hates GG
[31/12/2014, 12:01:31 AM] Dina : yes so mysterious what do oh well I give up
[31/12/2014, 12:01:32 AM] Annie Kelly: and get RTs and faves from GG
[31/12/2014, 12:01:43 AM] Annie Kelly: and come from the same forums as GG
[31/12/2014, 12:02:00 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/549958473950429185
[31/12/2014, 12:02:03 AM] Charloppe: harassment
[31/12/2014, 12:02:04 AM] Charloppe: in
[31/12/2014, 12:02:04 AM] Charloppe: 3
[31/12/2014, 12:02:05 AM] Charloppe: 2
[31/12/2014, 12:02:06 AM] Charloppe: 1
[31/12/2014, 12:02:45 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/TomicComics/status/549958664287969280
[31/12/2014, 12:02:59 AM] Athena Hollow: IT'S A PARODY OF ANOTHER REALLY SHITTY TWEET. SEE. HAHA. HAHA.TOTESHILARIOUS.
[31/12/2014, 12:03:24 AM] Charloppe: well its just a paradoy
[31/12/2014, 12:03:27 AM] Charloppe: oh
[31/12/2014, 12:03:29 AM] Charloppe: beat me to it
[31/12/2014, 12:03:40 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
[31/12/2014, 12:03:54 AM] Rob: I hope someone parodies his face with a fucking baseball bat
[31/12/2014, 12:03:59 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahahahaha <3
[31/12/2014, 12:04:00 AM] Annie Kelly: we all know bigoted parodies are impossible guys
[31/12/2014, 12:05:40 AM] Athena Hollow: I need to get up the energy to go and set up a site with all the nasty shit ggers have said
[31/12/2014, 12:05:47 AM] Annie Kelly: https://twitter.com/a_man_in_black/status/549959424325201920
[31/12/2014, 12:06:17 AM] drinternetphd: hey folks
[31/12/2014, 12:06:17 AM] Athena Hollow: I'll explicitly leave the word "harassment" out of it, and just point out how fucking gross it all is, and that it's hardly cherry picking when the goddamn cherry grove is attacking you with rotten cherries.
[31/12/2014, 12:06:21 AM] Athena Hollow: Hey zoe.
[31/12/2014, 12:06:46 AM] Charloppe: wonderful
[31/12/2014, 12:06:52 AM] Charloppe: moltar retweeted my tweet
[31/12/2014, 12:06:56 AM] Charloppe: fucking ass
[31/12/2014, 12:07:12 AM] Rob: Hi zoe
[31/12/2014, 12:07:27 AM] drinternetphd: I woke up and did like 40% of a first draft on my pitch whatup
[31/12/2014, 12:07:33 AM] Athena Hollow: kickass! ^5
[31/12/2014, 12:07:54 AM] drinternetphd: I was laying in bed playing threes and then a muse came down from heaven and gently laid her balls on my face
[31/12/2014, 12:08:00 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 12:08:14 AM] Athena Hollow: speaking of balls on face, did you watch the kluwoff?
[31/12/2014, 12:08:19 AM] drinternetphd: nope I was on a plane
[31/12/2014, 12:08:20 AM] Dina : Hi Zoe
[31/12/2014, 12:08:26 AM] drinternetphd: hey dina~
[31/12/2014, 12:08:27 AM] Charloppe: so many fucking aplogists
[31/12/2014, 12:08:37 AM] Athena Hollow: it's still on youtube or you can d/l the mp4 from my server
[31/12/2014, 12:08:38 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 12:08:41 AM] drinternetphd: sweet
[31/12/2014, 12:09:00 AM] drinternetphd: will likely take a look at that once my good bit of energy for pitchwriting wears off
[31/12/2014, 12:09:09 AM] drinternetphd: a lot of it is notes but I have like half the chapter structure already
[31/12/2014, 12:09:09 AM] Athena Hollow: :)
[31/12/2014, 12:09:10 AM] Annie Kelly: hello zoe! congrats on the draft
[31/12/2014, 12:09:14 AM] drinternetphd: and a thesis for the intro
[31/12/2014, 12:09:23 AM] drinternetphd: that I am super proud of
[31/12/2014, 12:09:23 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Moldybars/status/549959906787598336
[31/12/2014, 12:09:26 AM] Annie Kelly: you're gonna nail it mate
[31/12/2014, 12:09:28 AM] Charloppe: how classy
[31/12/2014, 12:09:41 AM] Dina : WTF
[31/12/2014, 12:11:08 AM] Charloppe: yup
[31/12/2014, 12:11:14 AM] Charloppe: heres the harassment
[31/12/2014, 12:11:17 AM] Charloppe: oh boy
[31/12/2014, 12:11:32 AM] Dina : uuuuh what can we do
[31/12/2014, 12:11:58 AM] Rob: I'm jumping in against him.
[31/12/2014, 12:11:59 AM] Rob: Fuck it.
[31/12/2014, 12:12:15 AM] Rob: I have about 20-30 before I have to bored.
[31/12/2014, 12:12:26 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 12:12:35 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/CHOBITCOIN/status/549961086678491137
[31/12/2014, 12:12:45 AM] Charloppe: so is chobit going to tell me to kill myself
[31/12/2014, 12:12:52 AM] Charloppe: lets see how long
[31/12/2014, 12:14:02 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/unbearablefag/status/549961402174423041
[31/12/2014, 12:14:12 AM] Charloppe: lol we love ppl like you cause we fap to them
[31/12/2014, 12:14:33 AM] Annie Kelly: block him
[31/12/2014, 12:14:43 AM] Annie Kelly: he sent pictures of dead bodies to someone
[31/12/2014, 12:14:49 AM] Annie Kelly: not worth it
[31/12/2014, 12:14:56 AM] Charloppe: was not going to engage
[31/12/2014, 12:15:01 AM] Charloppe: just the idea though
[31/12/2014, 12:15:13 AM] Charloppe: of him saying we support ppl like u cause we fap to you
[31/12/2014, 12:15:22 AM] Charloppe: its something i never had said to me
[31/12/2014, 12:15:37 AM] Athena Hollow: sounds about right.
[31/12/2014, 12:15:46 AM] Dina : slinging some mud
[31/12/2014, 12:15:49 AM] Dina : might as well
[31/12/2014, 12:16:01 AM] Athena Hollow: hah damn dina!
[31/12/2014, 12:17:19 AM] Dina : meh it's cowardly cause they all blocked but whetever
[31/12/2014, 12:17:19 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/GamerGatoruy/status/549962304352432128
[31/12/2014, 12:17:21 AM] Rob: https://twitter.com/GamegateManFort/status/549962123825004544
[31/12/2014, 12:17:21 AM] Dina : I'm pissed
[31/12/2014, 12:17:22 AM] Rob: wtf
[31/12/2014, 12:17:24 AM] Charloppe: feeling the love guys
[31/12/2014, 12:17:49 AM] Rob: I <# you charlotte
[31/12/2014, 12:17:50 AM] Rob: <3
[31/12/2014, 12:17:53 AM] Rob: not less than number
[31/12/2014, 12:18:00 AM] Charloppe: jesus this is what harassment feels like
[31/12/2014, 12:18:09 AM] Ian Cheong: welcome to my world.
[31/12/2014, 12:18:10 AM] Dina : lol Chobitcoin blocked me
[31/12/2014, 12:18:11 AM] Charloppe: notifications keep pouring in
[31/12/2014, 12:18:16 AM] Dina : Charlotte I am so sorry
[31/12/2014, 12:18:18 AM] Charloppe: course she did
[31/12/2014, 12:18:23 AM] Dina : no one should have to fucking go through this
[31/12/2014, 12:18:42 AM] Annie Kelly: when your own side rips apart your narrative https://twitter.com/TomicComics/status/549962429862789121
[31/12/2014, 12:21:38 AM] Dina : and here comes the wave
[31/12/2014, 12:21:46 AM] Dina : hold you breath, it's liquid poo
[31/12/2014, 12:21:52 AM] Charloppe: 100 plus notifactions
[31/12/2014, 12:21:54 AM] Charloppe: wow
[31/12/2014, 12:23:17 AM] Ian Cheong: They dogpile pretty hard, those fucks.
[31/12/2014, 12:24:36 AM] Dina : I'm probably gonna get fired over this
[31/12/2014, 12:24:47 AM] Ian Cheong: what are you doing dina
[31/12/2014, 12:24:56 AM] Charloppe: dina pls dont
[31/12/2014, 12:24:58 AM] Dina : telling them their chargebacks amounted to fuck all
[31/12/2014, 12:25:02 AM] Ian Cheong: oh dont
[31/12/2014, 12:25:06 AM] Dina : and they are impotent losers
[31/12/2014, 12:25:06 AM] Ian Cheong: let them keep believing
[31/12/2014, 12:25:17 AM] Charloppe: im a nobody they will forget me in time
[31/12/2014, 12:25:35 AM] Dina : hey can someone please screenshot what Chobitcoin says to me and charloppe?
[31/12/2014, 12:26:02 AM] Ian Cheong: rob, can you do it?
[31/12/2014, 12:26:38 AM] Annie Kelly: im on it
[31/12/2014, 12:27:14 AM] Athena Hollow: "Calling everything 'transphobia' degrades any and all meaning of the word, it's a joke because of that."
[31/12/2014, 12:27:31 AM] Athena Hollow: no, if it is fucking transphobia it's fucking transphobia you dumb ass.
[31/12/2014, 12:27:37 AM] Rob: Dark question
[31/12/2014, 12:27:42 AM] Rob: but what's the trans suicide % rate again?
[31/12/2014, 12:27:44 AM] Athena Hollow: calling a duck a duck doesn't mean it's somehow LESS THAN A DUCK
[31/12/2014, 12:27:45 AM] Rob: and is there a source for that stat
[31/12/2014, 12:27:48 AM] Ian Cheong: 48% or something
[31/12/2014, 12:27:51 AM] Ian Cheong: let me see if i can find it
[31/12/2014, 12:27:53 AM] Rob: TY
[31/12/2014, 12:28:03 AM] Athena Hollow: http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf
[31/12/2014, 12:28:07 AM] Ian Cheong: 48% does not seem right
[31/12/2014, 12:28:11 AM] Ian Cheong: yeah its lower
[31/12/2014, 12:28:26 AM] Rob: so ~40%
[31/12/2014, 12:28:27 AM] Charloppe: so many manchildren
[31/12/2014, 12:28:32 AM] Athena Hollow: but that's attempts
[31/12/2014, 12:28:40 AM] Ian Cheong: Suicide attempts among trans men
(46%) and trans women (42%) were
slightly higher than the full sample (41%).
Cross-dressers assigned male at birth
have the lowest reported prevalence of
suicide attempts among gender identity
groups (21%).
[31/12/2014, 12:29:10 AM] Rob: I'll say ~40%
[31/12/2014, 12:29:19 AM] Rob: Since I have to do it in 140 characters or less
[31/12/2014, 12:29:30 AM] Charloppe: bb in alittle bit. Need to walk away from comp and go shower. My feed is to much of a clusterfuck to make sense of
[31/12/2014, 12:29:34 AM] Rob: <3333 charlotte
[31/12/2014, 12:29:41 AM] Ian Cheong: take care char
[31/12/2014, 12:29:42 AM] Athena Hollow: <3
[31/12/2014, 12:29:55 AM] Charloppe: ty all
[31/12/2014, 12:30:02 AM] Ian Cheong: we're here if you need us
[31/12/2014, 12:30:16 AM] Athena Hollow: archive of chobit's feed w/ replies right now: https://archive.today/3ql01
[31/12/2014, 12:30:34 AM] Rob: Yeah. I'll be away for a bit since I'm boarding soon, but once I'm on and taken off I'll be back around
[31/12/2014, 12:32:02 AM] Dina : lol chobitcoin be mad
[31/12/2014, 12:32:06 AM] Ian Cheong: they mad.
[31/12/2014, 12:32:07 AM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/GOBBBluth/status/549958414991114242
[31/12/2014, 12:32:11 AM] Dina : it's kinda funny
[31/12/2014, 12:32:14 AM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/GoodGuyGGate/status/549960202544762881
[31/12/2014, 12:32:16 AM] Ian Cheong: they are mad.
[31/12/2014, 12:32:26 AM] Athena Hollow: super salty lol
[31/12/2014, 12:32:46 AM] Athena Hollow: someone in Sarah's feed said you faked the email because you didn't include a screen shot XD
[31/12/2014, 12:33:07 AM] Athena Hollow: Nevermind that 1) Had you, they'd have claimed it was fake
& 2) professional sites don't do that shit lol
[31/12/2014, 12:33:23 AM] Ian Cheong: lol yeah exactly.
[31/12/2014, 12:34:28 AM] Athena Hollow: "EDIT: I also find it very odd that the article has no comments. It does make one wonder. Also fixed it."
[31/12/2014, 12:34:32 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL I noticed that
[31/12/2014, 12:35:00 AM] Athena Hollow: It's odd to them because they can't read the "Comments have been closed" text LOL
[31/12/2014, 12:35:35 AM] Dina : ok my hands are shaking
[31/12/2014, 12:35:44 AM] Dina : I think I'm having an anxiety attack...?
[31/12/2014, 12:35:49 AM] Athena Hollow: hug
[31/12/2014, 12:35:54 AM] Athena Hollow: Dina, they ain't worth it lady.
[31/12/2014, 12:36:22 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah Dina.
[31/12/2014, 12:36:23 AM] Ian Cheong: hugs
[31/12/2014, 12:37:17 AM] Rob: Dina <3 <3 <3
[31/12/2014, 12:37:26 AM] Rob: I get like that. You probably are. Take care of yourself first
[31/12/2014, 12:37:45 AM] Annie Kelly: : ( really sorry dina, that is shit
[31/12/2014, 12:38:01 AM] Dina : I'm ok
[31/12/2014, 12:38:09 AM] Dina : I hate drawing the spotlight
[31/12/2014, 12:38:20 AM] Dina : but tbh I'm quitting this awful job anyways
[31/12/2014, 12:38:28 AM] Dina : and probably not gonna work in games again
[31/12/2014, 12:38:30 AM] Dina : so fuck it
[31/12/2014, 12:38:32 AM] Dina : tbh
[31/12/2014, 12:38:41 AM] Rob: :\ hug
[31/12/2014, 12:38:42 AM] Athena Hollow: <3
[31/12/2014, 12:38:52 AM] Dina : I handed in my resignation before the holidays but they have refused it so far
[31/12/2014, 12:39:24 AM] Rob: You're awesome Dina
[31/12/2014, 12:39:49 AM] Rob: Gotta pack up, back whenever wifi is turned on in the plane
[[31/12/2014, 12:42:09 AM] drinternetphd: this is the 2nd major company I know of that is hiding behind the ESA's toothless statement
[31/12/2014, 12:42:52 AM] Athena Hollow: yup.
[31/12/2014, 12:43:13 AM] Athena Hollow: woot.
[31/12/2014, 12:43:33 AM] Ian Cheong: And to give a definitive answer.
[31/12/2014, 12:50:44 AM] Annie Kelly: emphasise how relatively tiny GG's numbers are
[31/12/2014, 12:50:56 AM] Annie Kelly: remember their whole shtick is making themselves seem bigger than they are
[31/12/2014, 12:51:01 AM] Annie Kelly: eg. multiple e-mail accounts
[31/12/2014, 12:51:08 AM] Athena Hollow: the fact that even if they are 200k strong, they are still literally less than 1% of gamers?
[31/12/2014, 12:52:16 AM] Peter Coffin: All this point 5k seems a high number to me knowing the recent churn rate
[31/12/2014, 12:52:32 AM] Ian Cheong: http://topsy.com/analytics?q2=%23gamergate&q3=%23gamergate%20-rt&via=Topsy
[31/12/2014, 12:53:13 AM] Athena Hollow: wowwwwwwwwwww
[31/12/2014, 12:53:22 AM] Athena Hollow: less than 5k uniques a day
[31/12/2014, 12:53:40 AM] Athena Hollow: take out at least 500 a day for non-ggers using the tag and... wowwwwwwwwwwww
[31/12/2014, 12:54:03 AM] Peter Coffin: I use the tag when I post evidence
[31/12/2014, 12:54:21 AM] Athena Hollow: so, yeahhhhhhhhhh
[31/12/2014, 12:54:38 AM] Dina : hi Peter!
[31/12/2014, 12:54:40 AM] Peter Coffin: If it's just "look at these stupid fucks" I don't use it every time
[31/12/2014, 12:54:50 AM] Peter Coffin: Hey Dina
[31/12/2014, 12:54:53 AM] Athena Hollow: and considering some people post it in every. single. tweet. they. make
[31/12/2014, 12:54:54 AM] Dina : I never use it because I'm an easily triggered coward
[31/12/2014, 12:55:06 AM] Peter Coffin: I forgot to say good morning to you all
[31/12/2014, 12:55:07 AM] Athena Hollow: I almost always subtweet or use a joke name or just "gg"
[31/12/2014, 12:55:16 AM] Peter Coffin: How is everyone today
[31/12/2014, 12:55:20 AM] Athena Hollow: but lately i've gotten ballsy and used "gamergate" a lot.
[31/12/2014, 12:55:31 AM] Athena Hollow: I think it's because they are mostly toothless at this point.
[31/12/2014, 12:55:51 AM] Peter Coffin: I use gg when I know it's going to be a problem for me, which is way less lately
[31/12/2014, 12:56:51 AM] Peter Coffin: I replied on kia yesterday for Christ sake
[31/12/2014, 12:57:04 AM] Peter Coffin: With a Jonathan Mann video
[31/12/2014, 1:08:48 AM] Dina : lol trust me, at my job I'm constantly told to shut up about it so
[31/12/2014, 1:09:11 AM] Dina : there's this weird mentality of if we ignore it it will go away it's just the internet
[31/12/2014, 1:09:18 AM] Athena Hollow: Oh no no Dina, I know. There's been a lot of people who've been told to stfu about it.
[31/12/2014, 1:09:25 AM] Athena Hollow: but that shouldn't ever be a fucking thing.
[31/12/2014, 1:09:29 AM] Dina : I figured
[31/12/2014, 1:09:36 AM] Ian Cheong: yeah
[31/12/2014, 1:09:37 AM] Ian Cheong: exactly.
[31/12/2014, 1:09:40 AM] Athena Hollow: so i mean, what are they gonna do? Harass ya more? LOL
[31/12/2014, 1:09:57 AM] Athena Hollow: but yeah.
[31/12/2014, 1:10:02 AM] Dina : ;-;
[31/12/2014, 1:10:08 AM] Athena Hollow: this fucking 'ignore it and it'll go away' thing is so fucking annoying.
[31/12/2014, 1:10:10 AM] Dina : I need to go snuggle up with my daddy now
[31/12/2014, 1:10:13 AM] Athena Hollow: and dangerous as shit.
[31/12/2014, 1:10:26 AM] Dina : ttyl good people <3
[31/12/2014, 1:10:28 AM] Athena Hollow: <3
[31/12/2014, 1:12:26 AM] Charloppe: back
[31/12/2014, 1:12:36 AM] Athena Hollow: Athena Hollow snuggles Charlotte
[31/12/2014, 1:13:51 AM] Dina : *sneaks back in to snuggle Charlotte* hope you feel better
[31/12/2014, 1:14:01 AM] Charloppe: Charloppe likes snuggles
[31/12/2014, 1:14:06 AM] Dina : off again dad yelled at me lol
[31/12/2014, 1:14:09 AM] Charloppe: im better
[31/12/2014, 1:14:11 AM] Charloppe: byyye
[31/12/2014, 1:14:19 AM] Ian Cheong: bye dina
[31/12/2014, 1:15:08 AM] Charloppe: whoa my tweet got retweeted over 300 times
[31/12/2014, 1:15:30 AM] Athena Hollow: dayum
[31/12/2014, 1:15:34 AM] Ian Cheong: yup
[31/12/2014, 1:16:14 AM] Charloppe: thankfully its not gg related for the most part
[31/12/2014, 1:16:24 AM] Charloppe: christ my twitter is a mess
[31/12/2014, 1:16:39 AM] Athena Hollow: i bet.
[31/12/2014, 1:17:55 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Can anyone investigate WTF Wardell is going on about here? https://twitter.com/draginol/status/549963266173435907
[31/12/2014, 1:18:11 AM] drinternetphd: cause it's a bald faced lie
[31/12/2014, 1:18:23 AM] Athena Hollow: Is he trying to say you photoshopped that convo w/ him & moose?
[31/12/2014, 1:18:24 AM] drinternetphd: I posted archive.todays and links ot the live tweets
[31/12/2014, 1:18:27 AM] drinternetphd: yes
[31/12/2014, 1:18:31 AM] Athena Hollow: Because of course he is.
[31/12/2014, 1:18:42 AM] drinternetphd: if you check my feed from forever ago I posted links to the actual shit
[31/12/2014, 1:18:46 AM] Athena Hollow: fucking hell.
[31/12/2014, 1:18:49 AM] Alex Lifschitz: If someone can confirm that's what he's talking about it would be great to catch him in a bald-faced lie
[31/12/2014, 1:18:50 AM] drinternetphd: I'm not in a position to debunk it
[31/12/2014, 1:18:55 AM] drinternetphd: but if someone can that'd be nice
[31/12/2014, 1:19:01 AM] drinternetphd: lemme find it
[31/12/2014, 1:19:29 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/draginol/status/549965404215734272
[31/12/2014, 1:20:08 AM] Athena Hollow: ... um... noooooooo. IIR, you said "Oh look, he's courting the guy who drew THIS"
[31/12/2014, 1:20:18 AM] drinternetphd: https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/539803357439737857
[31/12/2014, 1:20:18 AM] Athena Hollow: not "OMG WARDELL IS COURTING THIS GUY BECAUSE OF THIS PHOTO!"
[31/12/2014, 1:20:28 AM] drinternetphd: this tweet has the link to the live convo and an archive.today of it
[31/12/2014, 1:20:32 AM] drinternetphd: as well as the screenshot
[31/12/2014, 1:20:46 AM] drinternetphd: tweet still live btw
[31/12/2014, 1:20:47 AM] Athena Hollow: he's such a drama queen.
[[31/12/2014, 1:21:48 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Don't publicly shame the guy, get some clarification on what he means first.
[[31/12/2014, 1:21:57 AM] drinternetphd: and if he's trying to claim this was a photoshop this tweet also has links to the tweet and an archive of it https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/539804194870263808
[31/12/2014, 1:22:25 AM] Alex Lifschitz: He's bad at words. I'd gently press for clarification of his accusation so you can have him dead to rights when he's full of shit.
[[31/12/2014, 1:22:44 AM] drinternetphd: give him enough rope to hang himself
[31/12/2014, 1:22:48 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Just ask him what he means, I suppose.
[31/12/2014, 1:23:02 AM] drinternetphd: or ask him what he's talking about
[31/12/2014, 1:23:05 AM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, I guess "What photoshop are you referring to? Maybe I can figure out what's going on?"
[31/12/2014, 1:23:07 AM] drinternetphd: tell him to point out the photoshop
[31/12/2014, 1:23:08 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Like, replying to the thread and being "Sorry, I had never heard of this. What are you referring to?"
[31/12/2014, 1:23:11 AM] Athena Hollow: heh
[31/12/2014, 1:23:37 AM] Athena Hollow: agreed.
[[31/12/2014, 1:26:43 AM] drinternetphd: nail his fucking balls to the wall
[31/12/2014, 1:26:58 AM] Ian Cheong: IIRC she never PS'd any cartoons. I just saw her confrontation with you and a screencap of your convo with ShreddedMoose.
[31/12/2014, 1:27:15 AM] drinternetphd: no fuck him link him to his own tweet publicly
[31/12/2014, 1:27:19 AM] drinternetphd: include the archive.today
[31/12/2014, 1:27:19 AM] Athena Hollow: LOLOL
[31/12/2014, 1:27:45 AM] Athena Hollow: yeah he can request it be deleted.
[31/12/2014, 1:27:47 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Link him to his own, see if he's dumb enough to try deleting it after the fact
[31/12/2014, 1:27:50 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahah omg
[31/12/2014, 1:27:53 AM] Athena Hollow: that would be briliant.
[31/12/2014, 1:27:56 AM] Alex Lifschitz: And save timestamps to prove he deleted it
[31/12/2014, 1:28:09 AM] drinternetphd: yeah
[31/12/2014, 1:28:19 AM] drinternetphd: bonus points for eron whining for a job in that thread
[31/12/2014, 1:28:21 AM] Alex Lifschitz: That's the one. Got the timestamp. https://www.dropbox.com/s/b29f5lyejqawv8y/Screenshot%202014-12-30%2009.28.12.png?dl=0
[31/12/2014, 1:28:37 AM] drinternetphd: he isn;t saying I photoshopped a cartoon
[31/12/2014, 1:28:45 AM] drinternetphd: he said I photoshopped a tweet between him and someone, which I didn't
[31/12/2014, 1:28:54 AM] Charloppe: im convinced that gg is the missing link
[31/12/2014, 1:28:56 AM] drinternetphd: attack that specific accusation
[31/12/2014, 1:28:59 AM] Charloppe: they cant be this stupid
[31/12/2014, 1:29:05 AM] drinternetphd: put a period in front of it.
[31/12/2014, 1:29:10 AM] drinternetphd: set the fucker on fire
[31/12/2014, 1:29:20 AM] drinternetphd: he does nothing but fucking abuse people in industry
[31/12/2014, 1:29:27 AM] drinternetphd: he fucking throws bees at people with allergies for christ sake
[31/12/2014, 1:29:43 AM] drinternetphd: maybe replace "your" with "this"
[31/12/2014, 1:29:48 AM] Ian Cheong: ah yeah
[31/12/2014, 1:29:54 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Again, I'd probably just private reply with "This one?" and a link to his live tweet.
[31/12/2014, 1:30:01 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Polite, informal, doesn't look like dogpiling.
[31/12/2014, 1:30:03 AM] drinternetphd: no dude
[31/12/2014, 1:30:06 AM] drinternetphd: he fucking knows what he's doing
[31/12/2014, 1:30:14 AM] drinternetphd: and all he does is try to get people to dogpile. look what he did to that forum
[31/12/2014, 1:30:25 AM] drinternetphd: he deliberately sicced GG on a goddamned forum because he didn't like the owner
[31/12/2014, 1:30:28 AM] drinternetphd: fuck him
[31/12/2014, 1:31:19 AM] Peter Coffin: Is it archived?
[31/12/2014, 1:31:35 AM] drinternetphd: yes
[31/12/2014, 1:32:20 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 1:34:24 AM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/supercargautier/status/549981781974192129
[31/12/2014, 1:34:45 AM] Athena Hollow: LMAO
[31/12/2014, 1:34:57 AM] Athena Hollow: ZOE IS IN THE INTERNETS, PHOTOSHOPPIN YOUR TWEETS.
[31/12/2014, 1:36:06 AM] David Gallant: David Gallant golf claps for Brad
[31/12/2014, 1:36:43 AM] Peter Coffin: That's amazing
[31/12/2014, 1:36:47 AM] Peter Coffin: Hilarious
[31/12/2014, 1:41:10 AM] Charloppe: Charloppe stumbles back
[31/12/2014, 1:41:14 AM] Charloppe: to much
[31/12/2014, 1:41:16 AM] Charloppe: stupid
[31/12/2014, 1:41:24 AM] Charloppe: overwhelmed
[31/12/2014, 1:41:30 AM] Charloppe: Charloppe passes out
[31/12/2014, 1:41:42 AM] Ian Cheong: awww what
[31/12/2014, 1:41:49 AM] Ian Cheong: the voice of Dexter from DExter's lab has passed awy
[31/12/2014, 1:42:00 AM] Ian Cheong: Christine Cavanaugh
[31/12/2014, 1:42:11 AM] Charloppe: wow shitty morning
[31/12/2014, 1:43:26 AM] Athena Hollow: AWWWWWWWW
[31/12/2014, 1:45:40 AM] Ian Cheong: http://angryjoeshow.com/ajsa/topic/25598-final-ajsa-gg-thread-angry-joes-gg-position/
[31/12/2014, 1:46:49 AM] Athena Hollow: heh yeah, I was reading through that earlier when I got sidetracked lol
[31/12/2014, 1:47:13 AM] Athena Hollow: and wow. brad quickly responded to your first tweet, but silence since then LOL
[31/12/2014, 1:47:31 AM] Ian Cheong: ayup..
[31/12/2014, 1:47:41 AM] Ian Cheong: he's probably pretty mad at me right now.
[31/12/2014, 1:47:45 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 1:48:07 AM] Athena Hollow: Need to get all of us a "gater tears" cup to take selfies with for occasions like those
[31/12/2014, 1:52:59 AM] David Gallant: That Brad tweet doesn't read like he's accusing you of doctoring... it reads like he's absolving responsibility because all he did was make an offer to someone he can claim to have no prior knowledge of.
[31/12/2014, 1:54:07 AM] Athena Hollow: that particular one, yes. but the previous ones he flatout accused zoe of photoshopping shit
[31/12/2014, 1:54:22 AM] David Gallant: This message has been removed.
[31/12/2014, 1:54:45 AM] David Gallant: It's hard to follow these convos when I have him blocked/muted. Hmm.
[31/12/2014, 1:54:59 AM] Athena Hollow: heh yeah I have the thing open in chrome where i'm not logged in.
[31/12/2014, 1:55:13 AM] Peter Coffin: You cornered him here
[31/12/2014, 1:55:27 AM] Peter Coffin: His moves are limited
[31/12/2014, 1:55:32 AM] Athena Hollow: showing him to be the lying sack of shit he is.
[31/12/2014, 1:56:24 AM] Athena Hollow: Having seen his previous bullshit, possibly both LOL
[31/12/2014, 1:57:52 AM] Peter Coffin: Very possible it's both, yeah Athena
[31/12/2014, 1:58:57 AM] David Gallant: Since Brad is so keen on throwing legal terms around, might want to remind him those tweets constitute libel.
[31/12/2014, 1:59:06 AM] Peter Coffin: He's trying to find a path to take
[31/12/2014, 1:59:20 AM] Ian Cheong: Twitter is a turn-based game.
[31/12/2014, 1:59:56 AM] David Gallant: And make sure you have them archived.
[31/12/2014, 2:01:06 AM] Athena Hollow: https://archive.today/SZ7bL
[31/12/2014, 2:01:31 AM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/ChrisWarcraft/status/549987744881971200
[31/12/2014, 2:01:38 AM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/ChrisWarcraft/status/549988080883466241
[31/12/2014, 2:01:45 AM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/ChrisWarcraft/status/549988436589834242
[31/12/2014, 2:02:01 AM] Charloppe: chris must of hurt their brains last night
[31/12/2014, 2:02:14 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 2:02:40 AM] Athena Hollow: and wow. what a fucking dipshit. "would need to get a job" YEAH. KEEP SAYING THAT SHIT BRAD. your marketshare shrinks by the day when you keep this shit up.
[31/12/2014, 2:02:49 AM] Athena Hollow: digging his own goddamn grave.
[31/12/2014, 2:03:08 AM] Alex Lifschitz: That's why I was making a point to follow up politely and specifically so we knew exactly why he was accusing Zoe of a photoshop.
[31/12/2014, 2:03:35 AM] Alex Lifschitz: We never, ever have anything to lose in those situations and we don't want to give him any more space to do backflips.
[31/12/2014, 2:03:50 AM] Athena Hollow: well he walked directly into the hole there lol
[31/12/2014, 2:05:13 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL Nicholas: https://twitter.com/untimelygamer/status/549988812659900418
[31/12/2014, 2:08:32 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Press him on that, basically. The other stuff he can do backflips on but that one is an outright lie.
[31/12/2014, 2:09:57 AM] Peter Coffin: He really has nothing going on for real
[31/12/2014, 2:10:01 AM] David Gallant: I'm serious about pressing him on the l-word, though. He responds to legal claims.
[31/12/2014, 2:20:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hey all. What's  up?
[31/12/2014, 2:20:52 AM] Tesseract: http://theinternetaccordingtokori.tumblr.com/post/106596468798/sjwilluminati-pmb527-is-a-gg-troll-who-is fuck this guy
[31/12/2014, 2:21:14 AM] David Gallant: Brad Wardell is claiming Zoe photoshopped the tweet where he offered ShreddedMoose a job.
[31/12/2014, 2:21:43 AM] David Gallant: So... nothing new, really.
[31/12/2014, 2:23:15 AM] David Gallant: SJW - I couldn't get through all of that. Read like a C&P of so many tweets I've seen recently in defense of 8chan.
[31/12/2014, 2:23:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): The Brad tweets to Shredded Moose are still live
[31/12/2014, 2:23:30 AM] Athena Hollow: tess: someone who's obsessed with you?
[31/12/2014, 2:23:40 AM] David Gallant: Exactly, Izzy. Brad Wardell is committing libel and he has left the proof in plain sight.
[31/12/2014, 2:25:16 AM] Rob: Hi guys
[31/12/2014, 2:25:36 AM] Tesseract: yeah he's obsessed with me
[31/12/2014, 2:25:36 AM] Ian Cheong: Huh
[31/12/2014, 2:25:42 AM] Tesseract: and replies to every post I make with an essay
[31/12/2014, 2:25:42 AM] Ian Cheong: Alison Prime apologized to me and me to her.
[31/12/2014, 2:25:46 AM] Ian Cheong: go figure.
[31/12/2014, 2:25:49 AM] Athena Hollow: wow
[31/12/2014, 2:26:08 AM] Rob: What di dI miss?
[31/12/2014, 2:26:09 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL Someone REALLY obsessed w/ you, Tess? XD
[31/12/2014, 2:26:11 AM] Ian Cheong: a lot
[31/12/2014, 2:26:16 AM] Rob: ok
[31/12/2014, 2:26:51 AM] Rob: so david pakman is an asshole again
[31/12/2014, 2:27:04 AM] Rob: and Turdell is a turd
[31/12/2014, 2:27:04 AM] Athena Hollow: he stopped being one?
[31/12/2014, 2:27:24 AM] Athena Hollow: Pakman's always been a self-important golden mean fallacy pandering fuckwad
[31/12/2014, 2:27:31 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL and accurate!
[31/12/2014, 2:27:36 AM] Rob: It's mean to turds.
[31/12/2014, 2:27:47 AM] Athena Hollow: BUT TOTALLY NOT ENCOURAGING DOGPILING.
[31/12/2014, 2:28:00 AM] Athena Hollow: he's a disingenous dweeb.
[31/12/2014, 2:28:14 AM] Athena Hollow: and nowhere near a good enough 'reporter' to justify his fucking ego.
[31/12/2014, 2:28:41 AM] Ian Cheong: pakman is currently being spammed by my private convo with alison prime
[31/12/2014, 2:28:46 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 2:28:57 AM] Rob: I'm being mean now
[31/12/2014, 2:28:59 AM] Rob: tweets
[31/12/2014, 2:29:19 AM] Rob: https://twitter.com/UnseenPerfidy/status/549995502196903936
[31/12/2014, 2:29:28 AM] Rob: (sun)
[31/12/2014, 2:30:45 AM] Tesseract: pakman interviewed hotwheels right
[31/12/2014, 2:30:50 AM] Ian Cheong: Yes
[31/12/2014, 2:30:55 AM] Ian Cheong: Thanks Izzy
[31/12/2014, 2:31:15 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/SJWIlluminati/status/549996078087819265 hehe
[31/12/2014, 2:31:28 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ian, no prob :3
[31/12/2014, 2:31:31 AM] Athena Hollow: LMFAO
[31/12/2014, 2:31:37 AM] Athena Hollow: nice memory tess
[31/12/2014, 2:31:43 AM] Peter Coffin: I want to just start responding to pakman with "mom? Is that you" for confusion/my own personal amusement sake, but I have never interacted with him and don't want to start
[31/12/2014, 2:32:34 AM] Athena Hollow: I'd say he'd get you dogpiled, but,yeah, they already do that to you lol
[31/12/2014, 2:33:03 AM] Tesseract: yeah I don't give much of a shit about dogpiling mostly
[31/12/2014, 2:33:16 AM] Peter Coffin: I really dislike pakman. The neutrality thing is literally just a means to not get criticised for invading himself into traffic-generating drama
[31/12/2014, 2:33:25 AM] Rob: Yep
[31/12/2014, 2:33:46 AM] Peter Coffin: I get it most days anyway. Not hurtful anymore
[31/12/2014, 2:34:12 AM] Peter Coffin: Days I don't I personally just didn't talk much
[31/12/2014, 2:34:21 AM] Athena Hollow: oh I know you don't Tess LOL
[31/12/2014, 2:34:40 AM] Athena Hollow: you enjoy telling them the fuck off too much ahhahaha
[31/12/2014, 2:36:15 AM] Ian Cheong: Trying to convert Alison Prime to join the light side.
[31/12/2014, 2:36:19 AM] Ian Cheong: she'll miss her cult though.
[31/12/2014, 2:36:30 AM] Ian Cheong: that's the hardest part.
[31/12/2014, 2:36:34 AM] Rob: I don't know who Alison prime is :C
[31/12/2014, 2:36:40 AM] Ian Cheong: I mean, she seems genuinely for ethics in journalism
[31/12/2014, 2:36:44 AM] Peter Coffin: Me neither
[31/12/2014, 2:36:50 AM] Ian Cheong: female GGer.
[31/12/2014, 2:36:57 AM] Ian Cheong: has her own Toshi drawing
[31/12/2014, 2:36:58 AM] Rob: Oh
[31/12/2014, 2:37:05 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/Alison_prime
[31/12/2014, 2:37:11 AM] Athena Hollow: tell her we have cookies >_>
[31/12/2014, 2:37:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): How do I get my own Toshi drawing?
[31/12/2014, 2:37:20 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Do I just ask him?
[31/12/2014, 2:37:22 AM] Athena Hollow: i mean, it's not a lie. points at username on twitter
[31/12/2014, 2:37:51 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/untimelygamer/status/549997399691653120
[31/12/2014, 2:37:53 AM] Athena Hollow: whoa whut
[31/12/2014, 2:38:09 AM] Ian Cheong: Aw what really?
[31/12/2014, 2:38:28 AM] Athena Hollow: today is the day that exists to fucking disappoint
[31/12/2014, 2:39:08 AM] David Gallant: 2014 getting it's last jabs in.
[31/12/2014, 2:39:11 AM] Rob: THERE'S SOME GOOD NEWS THOUGH
[31/12/2014, 2:39:23 AM] Rob: I'll be home! and Namco did something good!
[31/12/2014, 2:39:52 AM] Athena Hollow: and my fever broke!
[31/12/2014, 2:39:57 AM] Athena Hollow: but yeah, today is fucking garbage.
[31/12/2014, 2:40:10 AM] David Gallant: Personally I'm glad he's leaving GB. I hope he goes on to something really good.
[31/12/2014, 2:40:18 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah
[31/12/2014, 2:40:20 AM] Ian Cheong: come to think of it
[31/12/2014, 2:40:27 AM] Athena Hollow: i totally agree.
[31/12/2014, 2:40:39 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/549997760028880896 lol
[31/12/2014, 2:41:14 AM] David Gallant: "Sickening. I'd still interview them, though."
[31/12/2014, 2:41:18 AM] Athena Hollow: LMFAO
[31/12/2014, 2:41:28 AM] Athena Hollow: jesus fucking christ. what does he think Stormfront IS?!
[31/12/2014, 2:41:34 AM] Rob: If you're going to interview a shitbag, you make it a fucking hostile interview
[31/12/2014, 2:41:45 AM] Rob: not 'Hotwheels may I plz bask in ur e-glory I need fans'
[31/12/2014, 2:41:57 AM] Rob: damnit, food is coming out
[31/12/2014, 2:42:11 AM] Rob: gotta put away laptop for a bit
[31/12/2014, 2:42:21 AM] Athena Hollow: "I'd totally interview a member of the KKK"
"You... you do realize they actively fucking hate and threaten PoCs right?"
"WHAT?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
[31/12/2014, 2:42:36 AM] Peter Coffin: Pakman is Franco in the interview
[31/12/2014, 2:42:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AHAHA: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549998882470387712
[31/12/2014, 2:43:06 AM] Peter Coffin: Except more stupid somehow
[31/12/2014, 2:43:21 AM] Athena Hollow: and OF COURSE he . replied to you tess XD
[31/12/2014, 2:43:42 AM] Ian Cheong: So I got Alison to admit that the movement has a shitty harassment problem, but not enough to get her to call out RogueStar after she suggested that harassers be called out.
[31/12/2014, 2:43:49 AM] Ian Cheong: Can't say I envy her position right now.
[31/12/2014, 2:43:53 AM] Peter Coffin: Alright I'm getting involved with pakman
[31/12/2014, 2:44:05 AM] Ian Cheong: Calling out Roguestar when you're Gg is pretty suicidal because he'll sic the hordes on you
[31/12/2014, 2:44:13 AM] Ian Cheong: That guy needs to go.
[31/12/2014, 2:44:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): hehehe: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549999503495815168
[31/12/2014, 2:45:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): David is James Franco and Mike is Seth Rogen
[31/12/2014, 2:45:40 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
[31/12/2014, 2:45:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): They even look alike
[31/12/2014, 2:45:48 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): kind of
[31/12/2014, 2:45:53 AM] Ian Cheong: nah tye dont
[31/12/2014, 2:45:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[31/12/2014, 2:46:04 AM] Ian Cheong: anyway seth rogen called out gamergate publicly so he's ok in my book.
[31/12/2014, 2:46:30 AM] Peter Coffin: Mike is Jewish is he not? We all look at last a little similar, people tell me I look like random Jews I don't look like at all fairly often
[31/12/2014, 2:46:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): idk if Mike is Jewish
[31/12/2014, 2:46:52 AM] Tesseract: http://40.media.tumblr.com/f6f9f4aa8c4d1aaff90a163b55ffb9ab/tumblr_nh05i8arFR1u6q7ubo1_1280.png what's this from
[31/12/2014, 2:46:52 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 2:47:10 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): He just looked chubby and fuzzy in the debate, so I put him as Seth
[31/12/2014, 2:47:20 AM] Peter Coffin: I've seen him called Jewish
[31/12/2014, 2:47:29 AM] Peter Coffin: He may not be, I don't know
[31/12/2014, 2:47:39 AM] Athena Hollow: tess: no clue.
[31/12/2014, 2:48:24 AM] Chris Kluwe: morning everyone
[31/12/2014, 2:48:32 AM] Ian Cheong: morning chris.
[31/12/2014, 2:48:33 AM] Athena Hollow: Morning sir.
[31/12/2014, 2:48:45 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Tess: Polygon traffic. Found it linked here: http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=911321&page=30
[31/12/2014, 2:48:51 AM] Chris Kluwe: how about pakman playing the "neutral" card this morning
[31/12/2014, 2:48:54 AM] Tesseract: found it
[31/12/2014, 2:48:56 AM] Tesseract: morning chris
[31/12/2014, 2:48:56 AM] Ian Cheong: Right?
[31/12/2014, 2:48:58 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL he's such a shit.
[31/12/2014, 2:48:59 AM] Chris Kluwe: SILLY PAKMAN
[31/12/2014, 2:49:08 AM] Ian Cheong: Good on you for calling him out on that bullshit. Right after he .@tweeted me.
[31/12/2014, 2:49:09 AM] Athena Hollow: "I could have totally handled that moderator job!"
[31/12/2014, 2:49:10 AM] Athena Hollow: HAH
[31/12/2014, 2:49:14 AM] Chris Kluwe: hehehe
[31/12/2014, 2:49:16 AM] Athena Hollow: neutral my fucking ass.
[31/12/2014, 2:49:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: it was unanimous on KiA that he should've moderated
[31/12/2014, 2:49:32 AM] Athena Hollow: of course it was
[31/12/2014, 2:49:40 AM] Chris Kluwe: and i'm like "uhhhhhhh, that should be a warning sign"
[31/12/2014, 2:49:51 AM] Athena Hollow: because KiA seems to think "gave us favorable coverage" = "neutral" because they're the dumb.
[31/12/2014, 2:49:59 AM] Chris Kluwe: yup
[31/12/2014, 2:50:10 AM] Tesseract: well being "neutral" basically is giving them favorable coverage though
[31/12/2014, 2:50:14 AM] Athena Hollow: He's just like every other opportunistic asshole in gg.
[31/12/2014, 2:51:01 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah
[31/12/2014, 2:51:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: it's so obvious too
[31/12/2014, 2:51:14 AM] Chris Kluwe: just in it for the money, because ETHICS
[31/12/2014, 2:51:21 AM] Athena Hollow: pretty much all of them
[31/12/2014, 2:51:35 AM] Athena Hollow: Other than MAYBE tb, all of them have said they have no fucking interest in video games.
[31/12/2014, 2:51:46 AM] Chris Kluwe: if he sends me another tweet i'm going full ethics on him
[31/12/2014, 2:51:49 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahaha
[31/12/2014, 2:51:50 AM] Rob: Hi, Chris
[31/12/2014, 2:51:52 AM] Rob: And yeah, fuck pakman
[31/12/2014, 2:52:05 AM] Ian Cheong: They call Pakman "Based Wakka"
[31/12/2014, 2:52:10 AM] Chris Kluwe: "Look man, I know you gotta pay the bills, but this is getting ridiculous"
[31/12/2014, 2:52:12 AM] David Gallant: Hey Chris
[31/12/2014, 2:52:15 AM] Rob: I like being mean to him. I said something about him being an ass once and he RTed it on both his main account and his show account
[31/12/2014, 2:52:16 AM] Chris Kluwe: hey david
[31/12/2014, 2:52:16 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[31/12/2014, 2:52:20 AM] Rob: and .@ed me to get his followers to come at me
[31/12/2014, 2:52:23 AM] Chris Kluwe: hey rob
[31/12/2014, 2:52:36 AM] Rob: So then I started adding 'david pakman is an asshole' to the end of all my tweets for like 2 days
[31/12/2014, 2:52:43 AM] Chris Kluwe: lol, i love his "i'm gonna .reply someone so everyone can jump on board"
[31/12/2014, 2:52:43 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[31/12/2014, 2:52:48 AM] Athena Hollow: he name searches and it's hilarious.
[31/12/2014, 2:53:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: i told him i wasn't his shield
[31/12/2014, 2:53:06 AM] Athena Hollow: just like mundanematt, which is why I call him BoringBrian now
[31/12/2014, 2:53:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: because he keeps saying "Chris was on my show"
[31/12/2014, 2:53:12 AM] Athena Hollow: lol yep.
[31/12/2014, 2:53:21 AM] Rob: It's just amusing because he does it to intimidate people but it backfires SO SPECTACULARLY
[31/12/2014, 2:53:31 AM] Rob: Because everyone I've seen him try that with is like 'Yeah, asshole, I don't care. Bring your goons in,'
[31/12/2014, 2:53:54 AM] Athena Hollow: Man, with Mike last night, it so very much seemed like he was trying to do the stereotypical bro thing just so he could say "my buddy Chris Kluwe, the football player" LOL
[31/12/2014, 2:54:09 AM] Athena Hollow: so many of them try to kiss your ass sooooo harrrrddddddddddd
[31/12/2014, 2:54:16 AM] Athena Hollow: and it's funny as shit to see you shut them the fuck down LOL
[31/12/2014, 2:54:48 AM] Peter Coffin: He was Mr smiley the whole time
[31/12/2014, 2:55:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: haha yeah i noticed that
[31/12/2014, 2:55:12 AM] Chris Kluwe: his lawyer tried that shit too
[31/12/2014, 2:55:24 AM] Chris Kluwe: "I think you and Mike would actually get along great in real life"
[31/12/2014, 2:55:26 AM] Chris Kluwe: NOPE
[31/12/2014, 2:55:27 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[31/12/2014, 2:55:29 AM] Rob: I think I'll watch the debate tomorrow morning while cooking breakfast.
[31/12/2014, 2:55:35 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol I bet not
[31/12/2014, 2:55:41 AM] Rob: Since when I get home tonight it'll be BOOZE CITY AND GAMES
[31/12/2014, 2:55:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: nice
[31/12/2014, 2:55:47 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL You treat women like... people... OMG he couldn't handle that
[31/12/2014, 2:55:59 AM] Rob: Yeah chris I can totally see you and juicebro sitting around talking about magic sperm and why date rape is awesome, lol
[31/12/2014, 2:56:01 AM] Athena Hollow: He has flat out said that you, as a man, can't possibly be friends w/ a woman.
[31/12/2014, 2:56:03 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[31/12/2014, 2:56:14 AM] Chris Kluwe: i mean, it's like he honestly thought "Oh Chris is just playing for an Internet audience, we'll talk about some bro stuff and be best buds"
[31/12/2014, 2:56:22 AM] Athena Hollow: Yup.
[31/12/2014, 2:56:25 AM] Peter Coffin: I watched it last night, I tweeted "CATHARSIS IS NOW" at you Chris. Basically my feelings on it
[31/12/2014, 2:56:30 AM] Rob: :D
[31/12/2014, 2:56:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh thanks
[31/12/2014, 2:56:33 AM] Athena Hollow: and boyyyyyyy was his feefees hurt after that wasn't the case.
[31/12/2014, 2:56:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: i had a lot of fun doing it :)
[31/12/2014, 2:56:41 AM] Chris Kluwe: rofl
[31/12/2014, 2:56:43 AM] Peter Coffin: How could you not
[31/12/2014, 2:56:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: that KiA post
[31/12/2014, 2:56:44 AM] Ian Cheong: You did a good job with it.
[31/12/2014, 2:56:50 AM] Athena Hollow: SO MUCH TEARS
[31/12/2014, 2:56:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah
[31/12/2014, 2:56:54 AM] Rob: The 30 minutes I've watched so far were fucking incredible. You kept your cool so well
[31/12/2014, 2:57:00 AM] Peter Coffin: He was so full of shot and constantly trying to level with you
[31/12/2014, 2:57:00 AM] Chris Kluwe: when even Kiwikku is calling you out
[31/12/2014, 2:57:02 AM] Rob: And I like when he tried to do a 'GOTCHA' over the CBS thing and you just shut him down.
[31/12/2014, 2:57:02 AM] Athena Hollow: "I was totally trying to lose so I could win" mhm. sure guy.
[31/12/2014, 2:57:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: you done goofed
[31/12/2014, 2:57:05 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahahahah
[31/12/2014, 2:57:21 AM] Ian Cheong: Saul St John just followed me on Twitter
[31/12/2014, 2:57:23 AM] Ian Cheong: should I block him
[31/12/2014, 2:57:26 AM] Ian Cheong: he's randi's stalker.
[31/12/2014, 2:57:27 AM] Athena Hollow: EW EW RUN AWAY
[31/12/2014, 2:57:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yes
[31/12/2014, 2:57:28 AM] Athena Hollow: set it on fire.
[31/12/2014, 2:57:29 AM] Peter Coffin: Probably
[31/12/2014, 2:57:30 AM] Rob: Yes
[31/12/2014, 2:57:31 AM] Chris Kluwe: i knew that was the only thing he was going to try and bring up as a personal attack
[31/12/2014, 2:57:36 AM] Athena Hollow: yup.
[31/12/2014, 2:57:43 AM] Athena Hollow: it's literally the only ammo he had lol
[31/12/2014, 2:57:44 AM] Ian Cheong: blocked.
[31/12/2014, 2:57:54 AM] Rob: It's the only thing that's really even remotely questionable about you, Chris
[31/12/2014, 2:57:57 AM] Chris Kluwe: it's like, he doesn't understand that in order to debate properly, you can't just think of your own arguments, you have to think of the OTHER person's arguments too
[31/12/2014, 2:58:03 AM] Rob: So yeah it was his one chance
[31/12/2014, 2:58:17 AM] Peter Coffin: Hence taking time off of lawyering
[31/12/2014, 2:58:21 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
[31/12/2014, 2:58:22 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, i've taken my hits for it, i probably could've handled it better
[31/12/2014, 2:58:36 AM] Peter Coffin: Chris it happens
[31/12/2014, 2:58:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: if you guys want the details of what actually happened i can tell you in serious chat, it's nothing more than embarassing for the players involved
[31/12/2014, 2:58:58 AM] Rob: Maybe, but in the grand scheme of things, one quasi-slip up? You're doing awesome
[31/12/2014, 2:59:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: mainly i was posturing to get the vikings to back down
[31/12/2014, 2:59:11 AM] Peter Coffin: I could have handled fake girlfriend better. Often when you are at the center you don't know what top do
[31/12/2014, 2:59:17 AM] Rob: I figured it was something like that
[31/12/2014, 2:59:26 AM] Peter Coffin: Don't worry Chris
[31/12/2014, 2:59:30 AM] Chris Kluwe: if they called me on it i was screwed :p
[31/12/2014, 2:59:45 AM] Ian Cheong: If you feel like talking about it, go right ahead. We're in serious chat.
[31/12/2014, 2:59:53 AM] Rob: Yeah
[31/12/2014, 2:59:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: haha sure
[31/12/2014, 3:00:16 AM] Chris Kluwe: it was two guys drinking with a 17 year old they had picked up at a local high school while we were at fall camp
[31/12/2014, 3:00:21 AM] Chris Kluwe: they got caught after curfew at a bar
[31/12/2014, 3:00:32 AM] Chris Kluwe: so, yeah, embarassing, but not at all what GG wants to think it is
[31/12/2014, 3:00:52 AM] Ian Cheong: GG makes it sound like something unspeakable happened.
[31/12/2014, 3:01:18 AM] Chris Kluwe: and to be fair to one of the guys, he was only 19 at the time, he graduated two years early
[31/12/2014, 3:01:24 AM] Athena Hollow: ffs that's it?
[31/12/2014, 3:01:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: yup
[31/12/2014, 3:01:34 AM] Chris Kluwe: embarassing in sports media
[31/12/2014, 3:01:35 AM] Athena Hollow: Hell I moved in with my now husband when I was 17 LOL
[31/12/2014, 3:01:37 AM] Chris Kluwe: nothing in legality
[31/12/2014, 3:01:41 AM] Ian Cheong: All of that being a big deal over nothing.
[31/12/2014, 3:01:44 AM] Peter Coffin: Bit dull
[31/12/2014, 3:01:47 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
[31/12/2014, 3:01:49 AM] Chris Kluwe: which is why i said "compromising situation"
[31/12/2014, 3:01:53 AM] Athena Hollow: yep.
[31/12/2014, 3:01:55 AM] Athena Hollow: geez.
[31/12/2014, 3:01:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: rather than "illegal situation"
[31/12/2014, 3:01:59 AM] Tesseract: is that the incident they think was a rape/murder lol
[31/12/2014, 3:02:02 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[31/12/2014, 3:02:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: yup
[31/12/2014, 3:02:14 AM] Athena Hollow: they are the worst.
[31/12/2014, 3:02:16 AM] Athena Hollow: hahaha
[31/12/2014, 3:02:17 AM] Peter Coffin: Your involvement in this was what?
[31/12/2014, 3:02:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: heard about it from our assistant to the head coach
[31/12/2014, 3:02:35 AM] Chris Kluwe: best person to know on the team is the assistant to the head coach
[31/12/2014, 3:02:39 AM] Chris Kluwe: you get ALL the gossip
[31/12/2014, 3:02:43 AM] Peter Coffin: So you have nothing to do with it
[31/12/2014, 3:02:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: and they love to talk to special teams
[31/12/2014, 3:02:48 AM] Peter Coffin: And it's dull
[31/12/2014, 3:02:48 AM] Athena Hollow: oh damn: http://www.polygon.com/2014/12/30/7460777/gamergate-2014-just-the-worst LOL
[31/12/2014, 3:02:49 AM] Chris Kluwe: not a thing
[31/12/2014, 3:02:57 AM] Peter Coffin: Snooze
[31/12/2014, 3:02:59 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
[31/12/2014, 3:02:59 AM] Ian Cheong: Oh fuck
[31/12/2014, 3:03:06 AM] Ian Cheong: POLYGON ACTUALLY WROTE AN ARTICLE CALLING OUT GG
[31/12/2014, 3:03:08 AM] Tesseract: awwwww yeaahhhhhhh
[31/12/2014, 3:03:09 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL YUP
[31/12/2014, 3:03:13 AM] Ian Cheong: bout fucking TIME
[31/12/2014, 3:03:14 AM] Peter Coffin: Now?
[31/12/2014, 3:03:24 AM] Peter Coffin: Link
[31/12/2014, 3:03:25 AM] Athena Hollow: I mean, Kuchera has been calling them the fuck out on twitter for a while but yeahhhhh
[31/12/2014, 3:03:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh yeah, i should probably call the cops today just in case
[31/12/2014, 3:03:27 AM] Athena Hollow: http://www.polygon.com/2014/12/30/7460777/gamergate-2014-just-the-worst
[31/12/2014, 3:03:27 AM] Ian Cheong: http://www.polygon.com/2014/12/30/7460777/gamergate-2014-just-the-worst
[31/12/2014, 3:03:32 AM] Chris Kluwe: since they doxxed me in the chat last night
[31/12/2014, 3:03:35 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah Chris.
[31/12/2014, 3:03:37 AM] David Gallant: Yeah, but it's Kuchera.
[31/12/2014, 3:03:39 AM] Ian Cheong: they did doxx you, that's fucked up
[31/12/2014, 3:03:45 AM] Athena Hollow: Only took them HOW MANY MONTHS? lol
[31/12/2014, 3:03:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh, i highly doubt they're stupid enough to follow through on that one, but you never know
[31/12/2014, 3:03:58 AM] Athena Hollow: I think it's hilarious that the dumb shit used the same name he uses on twitter
[31/12/2014, 3:04:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: hell, i don't even know if Huntington Beach HAS a swat team
[31/12/2014, 3:04:18 AM] Athena Hollow: heh.
[31/12/2014, 3:04:21 AM] Rob: Oh shit, you got doxxed? I'm sorry, man
[31/12/2014, 3:04:24 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I just found Kiwikku's comments in that thread. He told Mike the truth. It's amazing. See here: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550004284700389376
[31/12/2014, 3:04:24 AM] Chris Kluwe: eh
[31/12/2014, 3:04:26 AM] Rob: It's brutal when that happens
[31/12/2014, 3:04:28 AM] Chris Kluwe: i was baiting them into it
[31/12/2014, 3:04:30 AM] Athena Hollow: lol yeah.
[31/12/2014, 3:04:37 AM] Chris Kluwe: and they were stupid enough to oblige
[31/12/2014, 3:04:39 AM] Athena Hollow: but, I mean, you've been baiting them to do it for months XD
[31/12/2014, 3:04:46 AM] Rob: Yeah
[31/12/2014, 3:04:49 AM] Athena Hollow: and then a gger with his attached twitter handle... obliged.
[31/12/2014, 3:04:54 AM] Athena Hollow: like a fucking numpty.
[31/12/2014, 3:04:55 AM] Rob: And it's unlikely anything would happen, but yeah
[31/12/2014, 3:05:43 AM] Rob: I think I'm gonna get another 16GB of RAM
[31/12/2014, 3:05:46 AM] Chris Kluwe: on the plus side, by juicebro's definition, i can claim to have been swatted now!
[31/12/2014, 3:05:54 AM] Rob: :d
[31/12/2014, 3:06:14 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[31/12/2014, 3:06:32 AM] Chris Kluwe: maybe i'll write a piece on how Mike Cernovich tried to get me killed
[31/12/2014, 3:06:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: i read that one he wrote to my wife last night and she's convinced he's crazy
[31/12/2014, 3:07:12 AM] Rob: I wish I could code. I want to make a Tapper clone that's Juicebro running a juice bar trying to serve his magic juice but no one shows up during the course of the game so he just breaks down crying and then it turns into a long rant about how feminism and women have screwed him over and how it's all an SJW conspiracy
[31/12/2014, 3:07:23 AM] Ian Cheong: haha
[31/12/2014, 3:07:29 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[31/12/2014, 3:08:06 AM] Chris Kluwe: lol
[31/12/2014, 3:08:15 AM] Peter Coffin: Sorry Chris
[31/12/2014, 3:08:30 AM] Peter Coffin: Didn't realize you were doxxed
[31/12/2014, 3:08:38 AM] Chris Kluwe: eh, comes with the territory
[31/12/2014, 3:09:01 AM] Chris Kluwe: and, sadly, with our society being the way it is, when an ex-football player calls the cops about something like this, they're far more likely to actually pay attention :/
[31/12/2014, 3:09:13 AM] Peter Coffin: True
[31/12/2014, 3:09:25 AM] Rob: Yeah.
[31/12/2014, 3:12:38 AM] Peter Coffin: That article is okay but first seem top mention child porn defense from my skim read
[31/12/2014, 3:12:52 AM] Peter Coffin: That's a big one
[31/12/2014, 3:13:33 AM] Ian Cheong: God Liana is so annoying.
[31/12/2014, 3:13:50 AM] Ian Cheong: She butted in on a conversation to say that Gghazi was just as bad as gamergate.
[31/12/2014, 3:14:16 AM] David Gallant: lol WHAT
[31/12/2014, 3:14:20 AM] Rob: yeah fucking call me when gghazi runs multiple women out of their homes with death threats
[31/12/2014, 3:14:43 AM] Athena Hollow: so full of shit.
[31/12/2014, 3:15:01 AM] Athena Hollow: Because some people called her out on her fucking bullshit after it was posted on ghazi, she lost her cookies.
[31/12/2014, 3:15:47 AM] Athena Hollow: nevermind that ghazi made a point to say "Let's not do this, ok" after Liana even HINTED towards it being people who visit ghazi...
[31/12/2014, 3:15:58 AM] Athena Hollow: which is more than any gger has ever fucking done. Ugh. Fuck these people.
[31/12/2014, 3:17:56 AM] Chris Kluwe: http://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2qt9he/8chan_owner_and_gamergate_hero_hotwheels_writes/
[31/12/2014, 3:17:57 AM] Rob: <3
[31/12/2014, 3:18:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: i didn't want to read that piece
[31/12/2014, 3:18:06 AM] Chris Kluwe: but i did
[31/12/2014, 3:18:15 AM] Chris Kluwe: and it's depressing as fuck
[31/12/2014, 3:18:23 AM] Chris Kluwe: you can see the self-loathing Hotwheels has
[31/12/2014, 3:18:26 AM] Ian Cheong: Give us the cliff notes.
[31/12/2014, 3:18:37 AM] Chris Kluwe: him and his brother were born with the bone defect
[31/12/2014, 3:18:43 AM] Chris Kluwe: state gave dad sole custody
[31/12/2014, 3:18:48 AM] Chris Kluwe: apparently dad wasn't a great dude
[31/12/2014, 3:18:57 AM] Chris Kluwe: dad ships them off to foster care at 14
[31/12/2014, 3:19:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: cue lifetime of self-loathing and wish for other people with genetic defects to have never been born
[31/12/2014, 3:19:28 AM] Chris Kluwe: THEN POST IT ON NEO NAZI BOARD BECAUSE SURE WHY NOT
[31/12/2014, 3:19:51 AM] Athena Hollow: heh
[31/12/2014, 3:20:08 AM] Ian Cheong: Damn, Chris. That really is depressing.
[31/12/2014, 3:20:21 AM] Chris Kluwe: and what i find depressing, is that it's so obvious that he needs therapy to deal with the fact his life has been fucked, but he won't go get it, and instead chooses the "horrible shit" path
[31/12/2014, 3:20:28 AM] Rob: Yeah.
[31/12/2014, 3:20:40 AM] Ian Cheong: I can semi-relate to that.
[31/12/2014, 3:20:49 AM] Rob: Ditto.
[31/12/2014, 3:20:57 AM] Rob: I did a lot of bad shit to compensate for bad upbringing.
[31/12/2014, 3:21:04 AM] Rob: And to make myself feel good by hurting others.
[31/12/2014, 3:21:53 AM] Athena Hollow: Advocating for all disabled folk to 'not have been born' seems like such a shitty route. Just... wtf... I get it, he has a horrific fucking disease, but how dare he try to argue that his experience means all disabled folk shouldn't exist.
[31/12/2014, 3:21:54 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh.
[31/12/2014, 3:22:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: it sucks, because we should, as a species, have systems in place to deal with that. but we don't, because that costs money :/
[31/12/2014, 3:22:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: and yeah athena, that's what makes it so bad
[31/12/2014, 3:22:27 AM] Rob: Universal healthcare FTW
[31/12/2014, 3:22:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: like, the small amount of sympathy i feel is wiped out by the "well,my life sucked, so lets kill everyone else"
[31/12/2014, 3:22:43 AM] Rob: Yeah.
[31/12/2014, 3:23:00 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, that I definitely can't relate to. Haha.
[31/12/2014, 3:23:01 AM] Peter Coffin: then there's this hatred game now
[31/12/2014, 3:23:03 AM] Peter Coffin: that helps
[31/12/2014, 3:23:28 AM] Chris Kluwe: because ETHICS!
[31/12/2014, 3:23:40 AM] Rob: The forum is what bugs me the most
[31/12/2014, 3:23:59 AM] Ian Cheong: If you think the forum is bad, wait till they implement Steam Workshop support.
[31/12/2014, 3:24:04 AM] Rob: The game is meh to me. The 'LET'S PUT IN SJWS TO KILL' thing is alarming
[31/12/2014, 3:24:07 AM] Rob: oh god
[31/12/2014, 3:24:10 AM] Ian Cheong: They'll put me and Zoe in the game to shoot and kill.
[31/12/2014, 3:24:22 AM] Ian Cheong: Because why not, right?
[31/12/2014, 3:24:32 AM] Rob: Actually knowing you all and talking to you all makes this shit so much more real
[31/12/2014, 3:24:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: "IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S REAL LIFE JEEZ"
[31/12/2014, 3:24:46 AM] Chris Kluwe: idiots
[31/12/2014, 3:24:51 AM] Rob: The meanest part of me, when they say that shit?
[31/12/2014, 3:24:54 AM] Athena Hollow: "Here, let me show up to your work and make sure I post it MULTIPLE TIMES so you see it"
[31/12/2014, 3:24:57 AM] Athena Hollow: lulz!!!!!!!!!!!
[31/12/2014, 3:24:59 AM] Chris Kluwe: lol
[31/12/2014, 3:25:10 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's the hardest part, is actually not using their tactics
[31/12/2014, 3:25:13 AM] Athena Hollow: lol yea
[31/12/2014, 3:25:14 AM] Chris Kluwe: because it would be so satisfying
[31/12/2014, 3:25:20 AM] Rob: It makes me want to make like... "Total Biscuit Has to Strangle Puppies in Order to Achieve Orgasm: The Tophattening"
[31/12/2014, 3:25:22 AM] Chris Kluwe: but goddamn are they ethically bankrupt
[31/12/2014, 3:25:31 AM] Rob: And see if he's all FREEZE PEACH ARTISTIC FREEDOm then.
[31/12/2014, 3:25:40 AM] Chris Kluwe: rofl rob
[31/12/2014, 3:25:46 AM] Ian Cheong: It's messed up and shouldn't come under the protection of free speech.
[31/12/2014, 3:25:48 AM] Peter Coffin: Yeah I'll likely make a video Ian
[31/12/2014, 3:25:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: he'd be the first one in line with a DMCA takedown
[31/12/2014, 3:25:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): There were a few requests to make Veerender a killable character, too :/
[31/12/2014, 3:26:00 AM] Rob: Damn straight he would, Chris, lol
[31/12/2014, 3:26:11 AM] Ian Cheong: Veerender never hurt anyone.
[31/12/2014, 3:26:19 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh. fucking hell.
[31/12/2014, 3:26:20 AM] Rob: and why it's a pretty disturbing and sick thing to me
[31/12/2014, 3:26:23 AM] Rob: If that'd help at all?
[31/12/2014, 3:26:26 AM] Peter Coffin: Vj is a lovely person
[31/12/2014, 3:26:34 AM] Athena Hollow: can we just, like, set the internet on fire and start over?
[31/12/2014, 3:26:40 AM] Peter Coffin: People who mess with him deserve top burn
[31/12/2014, 3:26:48 AM] Peter Coffin: To
[31/12/2014, 3:26:54 AM] Rob: Top Burn is good too.
[31/12/2014, 3:26:56 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 3:27:06 AM] Athena Hollow: it's like 'top kek' but less douchey
[31/12/2014, 3:27:13 AM] Peter Coffin: It's like top kek
[31/12/2014, 3:27:13 AM] Rob: hrm, what groceries do I want to order
[31/12/2014, 3:27:15 AM] Peter Coffin: Yeah
[31/12/2014, 3:27:15 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
[31/12/2014, 3:27:20 AM] Athena Hollow: vodka?
[31/12/2014, 3:27:27 AM] Rob: I can't order liquor online :C
[31/12/2014, 3:27:32 AM] Peter Coffin: Damn mobile
[31/12/2014, 3:27:36 AM] Rob: but I'll either run by the duty free or the liquor store ont he way home.
[31/12/2014, 3:27:42 AM] live:riotarms: Yoooo
[31/12/2014, 3:27:47 AM] Rob: Hey, James.
[31/12/2014, 3:27:52 AM] Peter Coffin: Yo James
[31/12/2014, 3:28:01 AM] Ian Cheong: Hey Knife Horse.
[31/12/2014, 3:28:07 AM] David Gallant: Fried tofu, bok choy, bean sprouts... you know,  the essentials.
[31/12/2014, 3:28:14 AM] Rob: :C
[31/12/2014, 3:28:18 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 3:28:19 AM] Ian Cheong: Did you folks see what I got as a late Christmas gift?
[31/12/2014, 3:28:25 AM] Peter Coffin: What
[31/12/2014, 3:28:32 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): a pony?
[31/12/2014, 3:28:47 AM] Peter Coffin: Ian is not a brony
[31/12/2014, 3:28:47 AM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/549921847194562560
[31/12/2014, 3:28:49 AM] Rob: Your very own Fisto robot?
[31/12/2014, 3:28:54 AM] Ian Cheong: This is what I got.
[31/12/2014, 3:28:58 AM] David Gallant: Ian - GG admitting you're not a Nazi?
[31/12/2014, 3:29:07 AM] Peter Coffin: That's slick Ian
[31/12/2014, 3:29:16 AM] David Gallant: Aha, the pipe.
[31/12/2014, 3:29:20 AM] David Gallant: That explains a bit.
[31/12/2014, 3:29:21 AM] Ian Cheong: David: One main GGer admitted that. Also Sargon admitted it to me awhile back.
[31/12/2014, 3:29:26 AM] Rob: Dude, nice, ian
[31/12/2014, 3:29:39 AM] David Gallant: Ian - wow, so pigs DO fly.
[31/12/2014, 3:29:45 AM] Athena Hollow: This message has been removed.
[31/12/2014, 3:29:59 AM] Ian Cheong: Wait, what revenge porn site?
[31/12/2014, 3:30:02 AM] Rob: One thing I'm gonna miss about my parent's house - fresh eggs from the chickens
[31/12/2014, 3:30:15 AM] Athena Hollow: This message has been removed.
[31/12/2014, 3:30:24 AM] Rob: WTF
[31/12/2014, 3:30:26 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): No. that was another GGer
[31/12/2014, 3:30:31 AM] Athena Hollow: oh i thought it was sargon?
[31/12/2014, 3:30:31 AM] Ian Cheong: No, that has to be another GGer.
[31/12/2014, 3:30:37 AM] Athena Hollow: i could have sworn it was.
[31/12/2014, 3:30:39 AM] David Gallant: Sargas. FOrcedSargas.
[31/12/2014, 3:30:42 AM] Athena Hollow: OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[31/12/2014, 3:30:44 AM] Athena Hollow: nm.
[31/12/2014, 3:30:49 AM] live:riotarms: Sort of amazing how few of these people are gamers isn't it
[31/12/2014, 3:30:49 AM] Athena Hollow: goddamn these people and their similar names
[31/12/2014, 3:30:51 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahahahahahah
[31/12/2014, 3:31:16 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): how weird!
[31/12/2014, 3:31:21 AM] Athena Hollow: {{previous comments deleted so I don't confuse it again lol}}
[31/12/2014, 3:31:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): why would he be a GGer?????
[31/12/2014, 3:31:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: isn't ForceSargeras the one that Randi owned in WoW?
[31/12/2014, 3:31:33 AM] Athena Hollow: yep.
[31/12/2014, 3:31:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): one of them
[31/12/2014, 3:31:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: lol
[31/12/2014, 3:31:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yes
[31/12/2014, 3:31:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[31/12/2014, 3:31:40 AM] Ian Cheong: hahaha
[31/12/2014, 3:32:03 AM] Athena Hollow: he's scummyscumscum in every sense of the word.
[31/12/2014, 3:32:03 AM] Ian Cheong: Here's me smoking my pipe for the first time kinda wrong. https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/549925847415537665
[31/12/2014, 3:32:20 AM] live:riotarms: If there's one thing I wish had gone down differently about the response to GG it's the "gamers are over" stuff because very few of the leaders are into games
[31/12/2014, 3:32:43 AM] Athena Hollow: god their fucking "FEMINISTS ARE COMING IN WHO AREN'T GAMERS!" bullshit
[31/12/2014, 3:33:06 AM] Athena Hollow: And their shitty leaders parrot this crap
[31/12/2014, 3:33:08 AM] live:riotarms: Fake gamer boys
[31/12/2014, 3:33:13 AM] Athena Hollow: after flat out saying they themselves aren't gamers.
[31/12/2014, 3:33:15 AM] Athena Hollow: Like... wtf?!
[31/12/2014, 3:33:37 AM] live:riotarms: A fun game is to compare Nero and DigimonOtis
[31/12/2014, 3:33:58 AM] Ian Cheong: Who?
[31/12/2014, 3:34:11 AM] Ian Cheong: Literally who is DigmonOtis
[31/12/2014, 3:34:33 AM] live:riotarms: A conservative digimon fan who may or may not be a dril account
[31/12/2014, 3:34:39 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 3:34:40 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
[31/12/2014, 3:34:45 AM] Ian Cheong: hah
[31/12/2014, 3:34:57 AM] Athena Hollow: his DA article was word vomit & lesbian attacks.
[31/12/2014, 3:35:21 AM] Athena Hollow: The "quit forcing LGBT characters down children's throats!" on a rated MA game was the cherry on top of a shit sundae.
[31/12/2014, 3:35:25 AM] live:riotarms: I wonder how many people have unfollowed drilbert since I queued up all those Milo memes
[31/12/2014, 3:39:10 AM] Quinnae: Howdy all.
[31/12/2014, 3:39:24 AM] Athena Hollow: Morning, Katherine.
[31/12/2014, 3:39:25 AM] Ian Cheong: Hey Kath.
[31/12/2014, 3:39:27 AM] Quinnae: Oh joy, someone on TechRaptor wrote a hit piece about me.
[31/12/2014, 3:39:33 AM] Ian Cheong: Seriously?
[31/12/2014, 3:39:35 AM] Athena Hollow: oh for fuck sake
[31/12/2014, 3:39:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Katherine did they ask you first?
[31/12/2014, 3:39:53 AM] Athena Hollow: they make TMZ look ethical.
[31/12/2014, 3:40:04 AM] Quinnae: http://techraptor.net/content/imo-anti-intellectuals-anti-gamergate
[31/12/2014, 3:40:26 AM] Quinnae: Nope, although the author did pop into my mentions to link the article and ask for a debate. :P
[31/12/2014, 3:40:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ETHICS
[31/12/2014, 3:40:38 AM] Athena Hollow: I think my retinas detached from the eye rolling over that title.
[31/12/2014, 3:41:09 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL: "Great article. The hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness that these people show will never cease to be astounding."
[31/12/2014, 3:41:25 AM] Quinnae: Wondering if I should just ignore it or make fun of it on my Twitter. :P
[31/12/2014, 3:41:42 AM] Ian Cheong: IGnore it. Why give them the attention.
[31/12/2014, 3:41:59 AM] Ian Cheong: They're a bunch of nobodies.
[31/12/2014, 3:42:14 AM] Athena Hollow: lol i sort of made fun of it but i have them all blocked.
[31/12/2014, 3:42:21 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/athenahollow/status/550013899236704257
[31/12/2014, 3:42:51 AM] Quinnae: Also, bonus...
[31/12/2014, 3:42:55 AM] live:riotarms: Ah sucks, japanese rival schools is text heavy as hell
[31/12/2014, 3:43:07 AM] Quinnae: Note at the end, he cites my essay We Will Force Gaming to Be Free.
[31/12/2014, 3:43:15 AM] live:riotarms: And I forgot you have to manually save in those games
[31/12/2014, 3:43:26 AM] Quinnae: Like the greatest minds on 8chan, he mistook the title for my personal sentiment, ignoring the quotation marks. :P
[31/12/2014, 3:43:42 AM] Ian Cheong: He probably never read it.
[31/12/2014, 3:43:43 AM] live:riotarms: This is a giant wall of word salad
[31/12/2014, 3:43:52 AM] Rob: Hey katherine
[31/12/2014, 3:43:55 AM] Rob: Want me to make fun of them?
[31/12/2014, 3:43:56 AM] Ian Cheong: Isn't TechRaptor the same folks who took "death of the author" literally?
[31/12/2014, 3:43:59 AM] Ian Cheong: Or am I thinking of another GG website?
[31/12/2014, 3:44:06 AM] Athena Hollow: nope. that's them.
[31/12/2014, 3:44:11 AM] Ian Cheong: Make fun of them for that.
[31/12/2014, 3:44:14 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
[31/12/2014, 3:44:22 AM] Athena Hollow: they were just made fun of for it yesterday too XD
[31/12/2014, 3:44:26 AM] Quinnae: You can make fun of them if you wish, Rob.
[31/12/2014, 3:44:28 AM] Athena Hollow: they are terrible.
[31/12/2014, 3:44:35 AM] Quinnae: I think I should stay out of the fray as Ian suggested.
[31/12/2014, 3:44:37 AM] Peter Coffin: Hey Katherine
[31/12/2014, 3:44:37 AM] Athena Hollow: :)
[31/12/2014, 3:44:43 AM] Rob: Yeah. You shouldn't get invovled
[31/12/2014, 3:44:45 AM] Quinnae: Hey Peter. :)
[31/12/2014, 3:44:48 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550014579720617985
[31/12/2014, 3:44:50 AM] Rob: If you'd take pleasure at them being made fun of, though....
[31/12/2014, 3:45:15 AM] Athena Hollow: lmao izzy
[31/12/2014, 3:45:29 AM] Ian Cheong: Kuchera is going all out against GamerGate today
[31/12/2014, 3:45:30 AM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/BenKuchera/status/550014674025340928
[31/12/2014, 3:45:44 AM] Ian Cheong: In addition to that article he wrote.
[31/12/2014, 3:45:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550014844024659971
[31/12/2014, 3:46:07 AM] Tesseract: here's another thing to make fun of techraptor for http://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2qau3v/imo_because_of_gamergate_were_all_republicans_now/
[31/12/2014, 3:48:50 AM] Charloppe: back
[31/12/2014, 3:49:07 AM] Rob: I just want to tweet out like
[31/12/2014, 3:49:31 AM] Quinnae: Hi Charlotte!
[31/12/2014, 3:49:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550015741366657024
[31/12/2014, 3:49:41 AM] Chris Kluwe: ugh. that techraptr article. IT'S WRITTEN SO POORLY
[31/12/2014, 3:49:43 AM] Rob: Hilarious. @techraptor whines about "anti-intellectuals" while bashing academia repeatedly in this article. http://techraptor.net/content/imo-anti-intellectuals-anti-gamergate
[31/12/2014, 3:49:44 AM] Rob: or something
[31/12/2014, 3:49:46 AM] Charloppe: Hello!
[31/12/2014, 3:49:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ok. I think I did a good job of satirizing TechRaptor's writers. (cat)
[31/12/2014, 3:50:25 AM] Ian Cheong: 40 minutes till Zoe's article goes up on Giant Bomb
[31/12/2014, 3:50:28 AM] Ian Cheong: prepare for gator tears.
[31/12/2014, 3:50:34 AM] Quinnae: Also, the idea that I can't be a sociologist due to lacking a Ph.D... more misunderstanding of academia. I'm published already as the sole author of a couple of papers. :P
[31/12/2014, 3:50:42 AM] Quinnae: Oh my! That should be fun.
[31/12/2014, 3:50:48 AM] Ian Cheong: It's just a top 10 list of games.
[31/12/2014, 3:50:51 AM] Ian Cheong: it's a good list!
[31/12/2014, 3:50:52 AM] Rob: Or. Hrm.
[31/12/2014, 3:50:59 AM] Ian Cheong: archive it first, Rob.
[31/12/2014, 3:51:11 AM] Rob: "Hey, @techraptor. If you want to whine about anti-intellectuals and trash academics, learn about academia first."
[31/12/2014, 3:51:16 AM] SF: 1800 notes, did I miss anything important?
[31/12/2014, 3:51:16 AM] Rob: archive what?
[31/12/2014, 3:51:21 AM] Ian Cheong: the TR article.
[31/12/2014, 3:51:24 AM] Rob: Oh
[31/12/2014, 3:51:31 AM] Rob: I may just not link to it
[31/12/2014, 3:51:36 AM] Rob: And be vague and annoy them.
[31/12/2014, 3:51:58 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 3:52:11 AM] Athena Hollow: https://archive.today/H48yk
[31/12/2014, 3:52:18 AM] SF: "a self-proclaimed “academic” who’s missing the key credential academics in virtually every field must have, a PhD."
[31/12/2014, 3:52:19 AM] Athena Hollow: already had it LOL
[31/12/2014, 3:52:25 AM] Athena Hollow: yeah, they dumb.
[31/12/2014, 3:52:27 AM] SF: Yeah this sounds about as convincing as I expected.
[31/12/2014, 3:52:29 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[31/12/2014, 3:52:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Someone is jealous of Katherine's success
[31/12/2014, 3:52:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): sounds about right
[31/12/2014, 3:52:56 AM] Athena Hollow: I mean, they couldn't even take properly scaled screen shots of twitter so it doesn't look like a blurry mess ffs.
[31/12/2014, 3:52:58 AM] SF: And it's just more hypocritical blocker whining.
[31/12/2014, 3:53:03 AM] Athena Hollow: but they totally understand academia.
[31/12/2014, 3:53:44 AM] Rob: Hrm
[31/12/2014, 3:53:47 AM] SF: I just heard about the Dexter actress passing away :(
[31/12/2014, 3:53:50 AM] Athena Hollow: oh for fuck sake. STOP TALKING YOU RACIST SEXIST DOUCHEBAG J_MILLERWORKS
[31/12/2014, 3:53:55 AM] Rob: "Hey, @techraptrr, if you want to diss academics and call them "anti-intellectuals", learn something about fucking academia first, assholes." is the best I can do in my state right now.
[31/12/2014, 3:54:04 AM] Rob: I haven't had any coffee and I've been up for like 10 hours :C
[31/12/2014, 3:54:20 AM] Quinnae: Hehe, thanks Rob
[31/12/2014, 3:54:30 AM] Rob: Does that sound right?
[31/12/2014, 3:54:37 AM] Athena Hollow: god they are eating this shit up
[31/12/2014, 3:54:43 AM] Athena Hollow: he wasn't fucking fired because he was a gater
[31/12/2014, 3:54:47 AM] Quinnae: And thanks everyone! Yeah, Rob, sounds good :)
[31/12/2014, 3:54:57 AM] SF: I'll always remember her as Bunnie in the least awful Sonic cartoon. She was so distinctive.
[31/12/2014, 3:54:58 AM] Quinnae: Athena, are you talking about the NYS chap?
[31/12/2014, 3:55:01 AM] Athena Hollow: he was fired because his freelance gig writing for a website WAS ATTACHED TO HIS TWITTER PROFILE THAT WAS GROSS
[31/12/2014, 3:55:03 AM] Athena Hollow: yep.
[31/12/2014, 3:55:13 AM] Athena Hollow: i hate that guy.
[31/12/2014, 3:55:22 AM] Quinnae: Mhmm, I'm less than fond myself.
[31/12/2014, 3:55:35 AM] Rob: Aaaand tweeted
[31/12/2014, 3:55:43 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): he's racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, ablist, the works
[31/12/2014, 3:55:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): GG loves him, unsurprisingly
[31/12/2014, 3:56:00 AM] Peter Coffin: Sounds like a shock
[31/12/2014, 3:56:01 AM] Athena Hollow: ughhhh i wanna respond sooo baddddd but i dont wanna deal with gg bullshit LOL
[31/12/2014, 3:56:05 AM] Peter Coffin: I'm shocked
[31/12/2014, 3:57:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: "REMEMBER EVERYONE MIKE C AND THE OTHERS ARE TOTES ABOUT OUR CAUSE"
[31/12/2014, 3:57:13 AM] Chris Kluwe: "NOT THE MONIES"
[31/12/2014, 3:58:04 AM] Rob: :D
[31/12/2014, 3:58:28 AM] Peter Coffin: Dollar bills y'all
[31/12/2014, 3:58:44 AM] Peter Coffin: I know
[31/12/2014, 3:58:46 AM] SF: Look at the downvotes heh.
[31/12/2014, 3:58:56 AM] Peter Coffin: Gg just fucked gaming back 5 years
[31/12/2014, 3:59:02 AM] Peter Coffin: Yippee
[31/12/2014, 3:59:02 AM] Ian Cheong: try ten years.
[31/12/2014, 3:59:12 AM] Peter Coffin: Maybe
[31/12/2014, 3:59:29 AM] Peter Coffin: The last five had been some pretty big strides
[31/12/2014, 3:59:33 AM] Athena Hollow: The one good thing they've done is prove we aren't fucking crazy and yelling at clouds when we say these elements exist.
[31/12/2014, 3:59:43 AM] SF: Let's set it back another 10 then we'll be in the 90s.
[31/12/2014, 3:59:44 AM] Peter Coffin: True
[31/12/2014, 4:00:01 AM] Athena Hollow: And with high profile voices calling them out, I think it'll end up being a step forward within the next year.
[31/12/2014, 4:00:13 AM] Peter Coffin: The last five also had retake though
[31/12/2014, 4:00:15 AM] Athena Hollow: as opposed to the stagnant wasteland it had been dwelling in.
[31/12/2014, 4:00:27 AM] Peter Coffin: And Jennifer Heller
[31/12/2014, 4:00:30 AM] Peter Coffin: Helper
[31/12/2014, 4:00:36 AM] Ian Cheong: Hepler.
[31/12/2014, 4:00:39 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 4:00:39 AM] Tesseract: yeah if gg set gaming back 10 years, good, the past 10 years have been shit
[31/12/2014, 4:00:42 AM] live:riotarms: GG was sort of inevitable, I think
[31/12/2014, 4:00:43 AM] Athena Hollow: DEVI OLIBER
[31/12/2014, 4:00:45 AM] Athena Hollow: hahaha
[31/12/2014, 4:00:47 AM] Peter Coffin: Sorry mobile hates everything
[31/12/2014, 4:00:59 AM] Quinnae: I'm surprised he hasn't called her Devi Belieber yet.
[31/12/2014, 4:01:02 AM] Athena Hollow: hhahah
[31/12/2014, 4:01:03 AM] Peter Coffin: Dervlin Berblis
[31/12/2014, 4:01:08 AM] live:riotarms: It's not good that it was inevitable but this was going to come to a head somehow
[31/12/2014, 4:01:09 AM] Athena Hollow: how fucking hard is "EVER" how is that hard!?
[31/12/2014, 4:01:11 AM] Ian Cheong: Dobby Oliver
[31/12/2014, 4:01:23 AM] live:riotarms: Derby Auger
[31/12/2014, 4:01:26 AM] Peter Coffin: Dippy Onion
[31/12/2014, 4:01:36 AM] Ian Cheong: Dopie Erderder
[31/12/2014, 4:01:51 AM] Peter Coffin: This would do be bullying in a different contact
[31/12/2014, 4:01:56 AM] Peter Coffin: Context
[31/12/2014, 4:02:00 AM] Ian Cheong: Haha, yeah.
[31/12/2014, 4:02:02 AM] Peter Coffin: So
[31/12/2014, 4:02:08 AM] Peter Coffin: Maybe
[31/12/2014, 4:02:12 AM] Peter Coffin: In
[31/12/2014, 4:02:15 AM] SF: Lousy that the Bloomberg lady still states the misleading figure about mobile gaming being where all the women are.
[31/12/2014, 4:02:18 AM] Peter Coffin: Their
[31/12/2014, 4:02:19 AM] SF: Ignoring RPGs, MMOs, etc.
[31/12/2014, 4:02:21 AM] Rob: are we making fun of benedict cumberbatch
[31/12/2014, 4:02:23 AM] Peter Coffin: Context
[31/12/2014, 4:02:28 AM] Athena Hollow: we're literally 50% of pc gamers
[31/12/2014, 4:02:33 AM] Athena Hollow: fucking assholes.
[31/12/2014, 4:02:49 AM] Athena Hollow: and split 50/50 on men & women as far as 'casual' goes too
[31/12/2014, 4:03:12 AM] Peter Coffin: Also her name is not devi anymore and they just hate respecting that
[31/12/2014, 4:03:19 AM] Athena Hollow: yup
[31/12/2014, 4:03:24 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah it's Grace Lynn
[31/12/2014, 4:03:34 AM] Peter Coffin: They would not even respect me saying I don't want one calling me mate
[31/12/2014, 4:03:47 AM] Athena Hollow: "Was she that one or the one who lied about her surgery" GO FUCK YOURSELFFFFF MIKEEEEEEE
[31/12/2014, 4:03:50 AM] Peter Coffin: He literally made a point to call me mate the rest of the day
[31/12/2014, 4:04:03 AM] Ian Cheong: oh wtf
[31/12/2014, 4:04:06 AM] Ian Cheong: huge argument going on in my mentions
[31/12/2014, 4:04:08 AM] Peter Coffin: What
[31/12/2014, 4:04:10 AM] Athena Hollow: ??
[31/12/2014, 4:04:15 AM] Ian Cheong: no idea
[31/12/2014, 4:04:17 AM] Peter Coffin: Hmm
[31/12/2014, 4:04:17 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 4:04:29 AM] Athena Hollow: i had some of that earlier after I went off on gg for being transphobic shits.
[31/12/2014, 4:04:38 AM] Athena Hollow: luckily most poeple tapped me out (though some was ok lol)
[31/12/2014, 4:05:08 AM] SF: She's said she considers Devi as bad as deadnaming her.
[31/12/2014, 4:05:19 AM] SF: I don't even think I'm going to give that TR article any attention.
[31/12/2014, 4:05:25 AM] Athena Hollow: it's so dumb lol
[31/12/2014, 4:05:35 AM] Athena Hollow: so, ya know, on par w/ their usual "I don't get stuff" articles
[31/12/2014, 4:05:40 AM] live:riotarms: I hope grace is doing OK
[31/12/2014, 4:05:51 AM] live:riotarms: They need to leave her the fuck alone
[31/12/2014, 4:06:15 AM] live:riotarms: Ian, you might dig this, I just remembered it exists Haruomi Hosono - Super Xevious: http://youtu.be/8m4deQO2-pI
[31/12/2014, 4:06:37 AM] Ian Cheong: ill check it out
[31/12/2014, 4:06:38 AM] Tesseract: brianna got modded on ghazi
[31/12/2014, 4:06:56 AM] live:riotarms: Member of YMO remixed the Xevious music and I think they also made a fake language as part of some 80s project
[31/12/2014, 4:07:57 AM] Ian Cheong: Oh TEss
[31/12/2014, 4:07:59 AM] Ian Cheong: that's a bad decision
[31/12/2014, 4:08:04 AM] Ian Cheong: she is a loose cannon
[31/12/2014, 4:10:12 AM] David Gallant: What exactly will mod status allow her to do?
[31/12/2014, 4:10:18 AM] Ian Cheong: delete posts.
[31/12/2014, 4:10:21 AM] Ian Cheong: censor people.
[31/12/2014, 4:10:27 AM] Ian Cheong: approve posts
[31/12/2014, 4:10:37 AM] Quinnae: I did note that. I'll try and counsel her a bit on that.
[31/12/2014, 4:10:44 AM] Quinnae: Frankly I'm disappointed she accepted.
[31/12/2014, 4:10:49 AM] Ian Cheong: give people flairs (text next to their names)
[31/12/2014, 4:11:08 AM] David Gallant: Seems weird she would accept that mod position when she's trying to focus more on making games.
[31/12/2014, 4:11:39 AM] Ian Cheong: This message has been removed.
[31/12/2014, 4:12:40 AM] Rob: I don't like positions of authority being given out unless the person is going to use them (and well)
[31/12/2014, 4:12:54 AM] Rob: it's why I always ran kicking and screaming when people wanted to make me an officer in games like WoW and shit
[31/12/2014, 4:13:04 AM] Ian Cheong: i mean, im fine with inactive mods not doing anything, but it's kinda iffy when a person has a history of being a loose cannon.
[31/12/2014, 4:15:21 AM] Ian Cheong: Hand me your gun and badge!
[31/12/2014, 4:15:45 AM] Rob: :D
[31/12/2014, 4:15:50 AM] Rob: Oh man Ian
[31/12/2014, 4:15:58 AM] Rob: I just pictured the McGarnigle scenes from Simpsons
[31/12/2014, 4:17:11 AM] Rob: "You're off the case, McGarnigle."
"You're off YOUR case, chief!"
[31/12/2014, 4:17:15 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/DiscordianKitty/status/550021014810525696
[31/12/2014, 4:17:17 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHHAHAH
[31/12/2014, 4:18:20 AM] David Gallant: I thought "louse" was the singular of "lice"
[31/12/2014, 4:18:49 AM] Athena Hollow: lol it is, she's mostly just poking fun at occulass terrible spelling.
[31/12/2014, 4:19:04 AM] Athena Hollow: Also, why the fuck is Occulass back on under a new name? I thought thriff was permabanned?
[31/12/2014, 4:19:08 AM] David Gallant: Yeah, I know, but then she goes "louses"
[31/12/2014, 4:19:30 AM] Ian Cheong: delouisineal
[31/12/2014, 4:19:32 AM] Athena Hollow: I think if she'd said "lice" they'd have not gotten it XD
[31/12/2014, 4:19:57 AM] Ian Cheong: http://thefineyoungcapitalists.tumblr.com/post/106626400895/porn-charity-information
[31/12/2014, 4:20:23 AM] Rob: https://twitter.com/Sargon_of_Akkad/status/550023477043163136
[31/12/2014, 4:20:24 AM] Athena Hollow: "will be moved to a Nonprofit Foundation to fund a merit-based STEM scholarship fund called the “2nd Circle.” The Fine Young Capitalists will be in charge of managing the creation of this foundation as well as handling the creation and distribution of any prizes."
[31/12/2014, 4:20:24 AM] Ian Cheong: Another way for Matt to make money
[31/12/2014, 4:20:25 AM] Rob: HEY LOOK ITS SARGON
[31/12/2014, 4:20:29 AM] Athena Hollow: ummmmmmm it doesnt work that way guys.
[31/12/2014, 4:20:45 AM] live:riotarms: Matt is such a slimeball
[31/12/2014, 4:20:48 AM] Charloppe: headesk
[31/12/2014, 4:21:06 AM] Athena Hollow: merit-based stem scholarship fund.
[31/12/2014, 4:21:06 AM] Tesseract: I like how they're careful to not call it a charity in their own words
[31/12/2014, 4:21:09 AM] Charloppe: oh pls sargon show me your wisdom
[31/12/2014, 4:21:09 AM] Ian Cheong: Applicants will be required to submit a copy of their most recent report card/transcript, a resume, and write a short essay about why they should be chosen for the program. Each section will be scored individually and the total score will be used to chose the student most deserving of the scholarship. Participants will be able to apply online, with final application details being verified by agents of the “2nd Circle Scholarship.”
[31/12/2014, 4:21:18 AM] Ian Cheong: With people that only Matt can verify, is my guess.
[31/12/2014, 4:21:32 AM] Athena Hollow: just ugh.
[31/12/2014, 4:21:44 AM] live:riotarms: He's verifying a trust?
[31/12/2014, 4:21:45 AM] Athena Hollow: butttttt they are promoting it through theporncharity.org
[31/12/2014, 4:21:56 AM] David Gallant: Last question, "Will Matt be involved?" He knows he's anathema to everything they do.
[31/12/2014, 4:21:57 AM] Athena Hollow: there has GOT to be a way to get canadian authorties to say "Oh hell naw"
[31/12/2014, 4:22:07 AM] live:riotarms: How long before porngate is a thing
[31/12/2014, 4:22:15 AM] David Gallant: I don't think they're a registered charity.
[31/12/2014, 4:22:19 AM] Athena Hollow: they tried that shit. it failed because porn is so disjointed.
[31/12/2014, 4:22:23 AM] Ian Cheong: Will Matt be engaging in the stream:
Matt will be doing the account and book keeping for the project and will not be attending the stream.
[31/12/2014, 4:22:27 AM] Rob: Ooooh this is gonna be fun
[31/12/2014, 4:22:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: taking the kids to the park, be back later
[31/12/2014, 4:22:33 AM] Athena Hollow: There's way too many people like me in the porn  industry lol
[31/12/2014, 4:22:34 AM] Athena Hollow: kk
[31/12/2014, 4:22:36 AM] Ian Cheong: Have fun Chris.
[31/12/2014, 4:22:55 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Oh, crap. Chris left right when I reached.
[31/12/2014, 4:23:17 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I had to tell him how amazing he did in the video.
[31/12/2014, 4:23:50 AM] Veerender Jubbal: How is everyone doing?
[31/12/2014, 4:24:02 AM] live:riotarms: I bought five psone games today and three are old school shumps
[31/12/2014, 4:24:16 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Sweet!
[31/12/2014, 4:24:28 AM] live:riotarms: Xevious 3D, Thunderforce V, Darius G
[31/12/2014, 4:24:45 AM] Ian Cheong: This TheonGryJy guy on KIA thinks Patrick Klepek is in trouble with the law because of GamerGate.
[31/12/2014, 4:24:46 AM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qu6b0/might_need_more_confirmation_patrick_klepek_left/cn9k1f2
[31/12/2014, 4:25:00 AM] live:riotarms: I miss having shooters that aren't just copy and paste bullet hell full of moe ankme
[31/12/2014, 4:25:03 AM] Ian Cheong: And that is the real reason he left GB
[31/12/2014, 4:25:40 AM] Athena Hollow: HHAHAHAHHA
[31/12/2014, 4:25:43 AM] Athena Hollow: goddamn they are delusional
[31/12/2014, 4:25:51 AM] Athena Hollow: he flat out said he was going to be still writing
[31/12/2014, 4:25:54 AM] Athena Hollow: just not on GB XD
[31/12/2014, 4:27:40 AM] Quinnae: waves!
[31/12/2014, 4:27:43 AM] Quinnae: Hey Veerender.
[31/12/2014, 4:27:49 AM] Veerender Jubbal: waves
[31/12/2014, 4:27:55 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I just woke up.
[31/12/2014, 4:28:08 AM] Veerender Jubbal: My image of Chris spread, and people are mad at me.
[31/12/2014, 4:28:18 AM] Athena Hollow: of course they are
[31/12/2014, 4:28:30 AM] Athena Hollow: they're giant flaming assholes lol
[31/12/2014, 4:29:37 AM] Rob: https://twitter.com/UnseenPerfidy/status/550025584227520512
[31/12/2014, 4:29:39 AM] Rob: This is fun
[31/12/2014, 4:30:25 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 4:30:41 AM] Rob: I'm wasting the shit out of his time, too
[31/12/2014, 4:31:06 AM] Charloppe: friends, I am retiring being a gg mole. its to much stupid for one little mole
[31/12/2014, 4:31:09 AM] live:riotarms: Re: time wasting
[31/12/2014, 4:31:14 AM] Athena Hollow: <3
[31/12/2014, 4:31:30 AM] Charloppe: i fully accept being a eeeeevil sjw
[31/12/2014, 4:31:34 AM] live:riotarms: What I like to do is keep tagging them in as I'm arguing
[31/12/2014, 4:31:39 AM] Quinnae: Can you be a mole emeritus?
[31/12/2014, 4:31:41 AM] Athena Hollow: I think this is one of my favorite tweets you've ever posted, Rob https://twitter.com/UnseenPerfidy/status/550024075653816320
[31/12/2014, 4:31:43 AM] Quinnae: I want to keep tossing you.
[31/12/2014, 4:31:49 AM] Rob: I'm just making him sit here and keep replying to me
[31/12/2014, 4:31:51 AM] Rob: I hope he makes a video about it.
[31/12/2014, 4:31:55 AM] live:riotarms: More and more show up and it's usually so easy to keep them spinning
[31/12/2014, 4:31:57 AM] Charloppe: only if you toss me a ggs!
[31/12/2014, 4:31:58 AM] Veerender Jubbal: hugs Charlotte
[31/12/2014, 4:32:45 AM] Charloppe: also yes katherine :3
[31/12/2014, 4:32:57 AM] Rob: Hey veerender, next time I can make a party based game where I get to name people, you're joining the party again
[31/12/2014, 4:32:58 AM] Quinnae: But yeah, probably a good idea Charlotte. hugs You've mole'd enough, methinks.
[31/12/2014, 4:33:01 AM] Charloppe: from now on I'm just a mole
[31/12/2014, 4:33:10 AM] Rob: Naming my ship after you in ur-quan masters helped me win
[31/12/2014, 4:33:23 AM] Quinnae: Retire on an island, have little umbrella drinks. (Mole sized)
[31/12/2014, 4:33:44 AM] live:riotarms: I thought about going deep cover but I'm not sure how I'd do it
[31/12/2014, 4:34:17 AM] Charloppe: my job is not over yet though. this mole has transphobia to fight
[31/12/2014, 4:34:44 AM] Charloppe: i will be a mole for great justice
[31/12/2014, 4:35:00 AM] Charloppe: I shall be flinged at any ggs who support harassment
[31/12/2014, 4:37:42 AM] Rob: This is so fun
[31/12/2014, 4:39:38 AM] Charloppe: lol sargon is so fucking stupid
[31/12/2014, 4:40:04 AM] SF: Take off every zig
[31/12/2014, 4:40:16 AM] SF: Happy trails Charlotte!
[31/12/2014, 4:40:39 AM] SF: Assuming you quit for longer than I do each time.
[31/12/2014, 4:40:50 AM] Charloppe: take care. I will be fine :)
[31/12/2014, 4:40:57 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Kind of Racism over here.
[31/12/2014, 4:41:37 AM] Charloppe: omg is sargon still going on about genocide!?
[31/12/2014, 4:42:01 AM] Charloppe: way to turn trans girls death into accusations of genocide. just wow.
[31/12/2014, 4:43:03 AM] Rob: yes
[31/12/2014, 4:43:03 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/Jumbso/status/550027829098737664 sf did you write this article
[31/12/2014, 4:44:15 AM] Quinnae: Where is Sargon saying that, Charlotte?
[31/12/2014, 4:44:35 AM] Rob: He's replying to me.
[31/12/2014, 4:44:36 AM] Charloppe: to rob
[31/12/2014, 4:44:37 AM] Rob: He picked a fight.
[31/12/2014, 4:44:42 AM] Rob: And I'm just wasting his time because it's fun
[31/12/2014, 4:44:51 AM] Quinnae: Ugh, what an ass.
[31/12/2014, 4:45:05 AM] Quinnae: Anyway, I have to head downtown to go book shopping with my partner.
[31/12/2014, 4:45:12 AM] Quinnae: I leave matters in your capable hands. ;)
[31/12/2014, 4:45:20 AM] Charloppe: :3 have fun katherine
[31/12/2014, 4:45:21 AM] Tesseract: I need to get a word in here so I can get that sweet twitter block I crave
[31/12/2014, 4:46:43 AM] Rob: Part of me is really tempted to be classist
[31/12/2014, 4:46:44 AM] Rob: and be like
[31/12/2014, 4:47:01 AM] Rob: 'well sargon i'm in the 1%, so yes, i think people take me more seriously than they take you. TOP KEK. REALZ NOT FEELS.'
[31/12/2014, 4:47:12 AM] Rob: just because I know it'd make him sad in his feels.
[31/12/2014, 4:47:54 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Fucking white people in my mentions.
[31/12/2014, 4:48:11 AM] Rob: We're the worst.
[31/12/2014, 4:48:16 AM] Charloppe: agreed
[31/12/2014, 4:48:59 AM] Veerender Jubbal: "Veerender is not the sweetest person--he is the most racist!"
[31/12/2014, 4:49:02 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Oh, God.
[31/12/2014, 4:49:14 AM] Peter Coffin: noooooooooooo
[31/12/2014, 4:49:53 AM] Peter Coffin: look, I'm white and get mistaken for middle eastern in the airport because I am semitic. white people are fucking bullshit.
[31/12/2014, 4:50:03 AM] Peter Coffin: vj is no racist
[31/12/2014, 4:50:25 AM] Peter Coffin: you, my friend, have to deal with the worst of white people
[31/12/2014, 4:50:28 AM] Peter Coffin: I'm sorry
[31/12/2014, 4:51:10 AM] Rob: https://twitter.com/UnseenPerfidy/status/550031260827930624
[31/12/2014, 4:51:16 AM] Rob: (sun)
[31/12/2014, 4:51:18 AM] Charloppe: funny how most assholes I come across are white
[31/12/2014, 4:51:20 AM] Rob: Veerender you kick ass
[31/12/2014, 4:51:26 AM] Charloppe: I wonder why
[31/12/2014, 4:51:42 AM] Charloppe: lol that tweet
[31/12/2014, 4:51:42 AM] Veerender Jubbal: blows kiss
[31/12/2014, 4:52:00 AM] Charloppe: Charloppe accepts all of veerender kissed
[31/12/2014, 5:01:06 AM] Charloppe: wow my one tweet is almost a 1000 rt
[31/12/2014, 5:01:11 AM] SF: Are you trying to tell me Tesseract that animals do not all look like squares
[31/12/2014, 5:01:13 AM] Ian Cheong: wow
[31/12/2014, 5:01:23 AM] SF: And that I failed kindergarten 3 times for legitimate reasons
[31/12/2014, 5:01:38 AM] Charloppe: heh i had to redo kindergarten too
[31/12/2014, 5:02:16 AM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2quhgd/i_know_she_is_irrelevant_but_i_hope_gb_are_just/
[31/12/2014, 5:02:18 AM] Ian Cheong: salty.
[31/12/2014, 5:02:31 AM] Rob: But seriously, screaming baby for the past 5 hours
[31/12/2014, 5:03:00 AM] Charloppe: seems like gators have stopped dogpiling me right now
[31/12/2014, 5:03:14 AM] Charloppe: benifit of being a nobody on twitter
[31/12/2014, 5:03:27 AM] Rob: Anyways, talk to you guys in a while
[31/12/2014, 5:03:31 AM] Ian Cheong: http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/zoe-quinn-s-top-10-games-of-2014/1100-5156/
[31/12/2014, 5:03:33 AM] Ian Cheong: check it out
[31/12/2014, 5:03:36 AM] Ian Cheong: zoe's article!~
[31/12/2014, 5:04:14 AM] Charloppe: i remember her asking for ideas for that
[31/12/2014, 5:12:00 AM] Dan Olson: morn... afternoon... anything cray cray happen this morning?
[31/12/2014, 5:12:07 AM] Charloppe: i got dogpiled
[31/12/2014, 5:12:20 AM] Charloppe: tweet i made kinda went viral
[31/12/2014, 5:12:29 AM] Dan Olson: lovely
[31/12/2014, 5:12:30 AM] Charloppe: its been something
[31/12/2014, 5:13:19 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Dan, like, everyday.
[31/12/2014, 5:14:22 AM] Charloppe: know how you all feel now
[31/12/2014, 5:15:10 AM] Charloppe: i dont even know what to think right now
[31/12/2014, 5:19:09 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/550038332806557697
[31/12/2014, 5:19:17 AM] Charloppe: see how long this one takes to piss them off
[31/12/2014, 5:26:00 AM] live:riotarms: There's this insane thing someone posted you all have to see
[31/12/2014, 5:26:27 AM] Charloppe: oh?
[31/12/2014, 5:26:29 AM] Tesseract: ?
[31/12/2014, 5:26:43 AM] live:riotarms: https://twitter.com/SuperRetroid/status/549890691166638080
[31/12/2014, 5:26:57 AM] Ian Cheong: Link?
[31/12/2014, 5:27:25 AM] Charloppe: lol saw that earlier
[31/12/2014, 5:27:39 AM] Ian Cheong: Oh that is my tweet
[31/12/2014, 5:28:15 AM] Ian Cheong: Ethics in waifus
[31/12/2014, 5:29:01 AM] Charloppe: I will take all of their 2d girls lolol
[31/12/2014, 5:29:34 AM] live:riotarms: It's about ethics in Hatsune Miku VR sex
[31/12/2014, 5:31:53 AM] Peter Coffin: lol
[31/12/2014, 5:34:13 AM] Charloppe: apprently me raising awarness about transphobia is oppression olympics
[31/12/2014, 5:34:54 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/550038332806557697
[31/12/2014, 5:34:55 AM] David Gallant: Standard deflection tactic, Charlotte. Disregard it for the stupidity it is.
[31/12/2014, 5:35:25 AM] David Gallant: Also... who the fuck refers to themselves as an "lgbt minority"?
[31/12/2014, 5:36:05 AM] SF: "As a gay,
[31/12/2014, 5:36:08 AM] Charloppe: did I word that badly?
[31/12/2014, 5:36:49 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Amantisme/status/550042456289337344
[31/12/2014, 5:36:54 AM] SF: I didn't think so.
[31/12/2014, 5:37:20 AM] SF: Ahaha oh of course by raising awareness we're the real monsters.
[31/12/2014, 5:37:56 AM] Dan Olson: It takes one to know one!
[31/12/2014, 5:38:02 AM] Dan Olson: I know you are, but what am I?!
[31/12/2014, 5:38:56 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I am not a monster, so...
[31/12/2014, 5:39:10 AM] Charloppe: someone said "waaaah my opression" Ignore that someone killed themselves because of it
[31/12/2014, 5:39:22 AM] Dina : sup
[31/12/2014, 5:39:41 AM] Tesseract: hi
[31/12/2014, 5:39:48 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Dina!
[31/12/2014, 5:39:48 AM] Dan Olson: Like this whole "Dan must be a pedo if he's pointing out pedos" and "Veerender must be a racist if he's pointing out racists" is basically that schoolyard taunt.
[31/12/2014, 5:39:58 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Pretty much.
[31/12/2014, 5:40:05 AM] Dina : I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I, DAN
[31/12/2014, 5:40:09 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Dan is on-point.
[31/12/2014, 5:40:13 AM] Dina : or should I say... PEDAN
[31/12/2014, 5:40:20 AM] Dina : (I'm sorry)
[31/12/2014, 5:40:24 AM] Veerender Jubbal: You are both rad.
[31/12/2014, 5:40:30 AM] SF: I believe this precedent was set in the landmark case of Rubber v. Glue.
[31/12/2014, 5:40:36 AM] Dina : Veerender <3
[31/12/2014, 5:40:39 AM] Tesseract: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2quhgd/i_know_she_is_irrelevant_but_i_hope_gb_are_just/ lollllllllllllllllllllll
[31/12/2014, 5:40:40 AM] Dina : lol SF
[31/12/2014, 5:40:47 AM] Veerender Jubbal: hugs
[31/12/2014, 5:40:53 AM] Dina : (hug)
[31/12/2014, 5:41:11 AM] Charloppe: someone just said to me chris kluwe is harassing a trans woman
[31/12/2014, 5:41:15 AM] Charloppe: seriously doubt that
[31/12/2014, 5:41:22 AM] SF: Maybe GG is just a campaign to destroy the meaning of the word trolling.
[31/12/2014, 5:41:50 AM] Charloppe: oh its chobitcoin hes responding to
[31/12/2014, 5:41:51 AM] Dina : I feel like a dick chuckling at Cerno's weird voice
[31/12/2014, 5:42:22 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Quite a lot of people have said I am 'inspiring" over the past few days--I am scared.
[31/12/2014, 5:42:54 AM] Ian Cheong: Apparently calling out chobotcpin means you're harassing a trans person
[31/12/2014, 5:43:13 AM] Dina : she's trans?
[31/12/2014, 5:43:35 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah apparently
[31/12/2014, 5:43:49 AM] Tesseract: yes
[31/12/2014, 5:44:01 AM] Dina : big whoop
[31/12/2014, 5:44:05 AM] Dina : still a turd
[31/12/2014, 5:44:07 AM] Tesseract: anyone know the date gg got kicked off 4chan
[31/12/2014, 5:44:13 AM] Charloppe: i have seriosu doubts about her being trans
[31/12/2014, 5:44:21 AM] Charloppe: no one can be trans and this malicious
[31/12/2014, 5:44:31 AM] Charloppe: espically toward other trans ppl
[31/12/2014, 5:44:46 AM] Ian Cheong: She says hella transphobic things
[31/12/2014, 5:44:47 AM] Dina : hm exhibit A: Nero
[31/12/2014, 5:45:02 AM] Dan Olson: Veerender, if I attended Katha would the gurdwara have spare head coverings for visitors, or should I bring my own?
[31/12/2014, 5:45:04 AM] Dina : says wicked homophobic things
[31/12/2014, 5:45:11 AM] Dina : is homosexual
[31/12/2014, 5:45:15 AM] Dina : afaik
[31/12/2014, 5:45:30 AM] SF: Some people genuinely do just hate others even more than they love themselves
[31/12/2014, 5:45:41 AM] SF: Alternatively, they just also hate themselves.
[31/12/2014, 5:46:05 AM] Veerender Jubbal: They always have their own.
[31/12/2014, 5:46:18 AM] Veerender Jubbal: There is a a large box with them.
[31/12/2014, 5:46:26 AM] Charloppe: I just don't get how a trans person can be that vicious. she should know better by default.
[31/12/2014, 5:46:45 AM] SF: I sense an emotional separation between her words and their consequences.
[31/12/2014, 5:46:51 AM] Dina : maybe she's shielded by some sort of privilege?
[31/12/2014, 5:46:52 AM] SF: "Just trolling" at its most extreme.
[31/12/2014, 5:46:54 AM] Dina : financial
[31/12/2014, 5:46:58 AM] Dina : passing
[31/12/2014, 5:47:00 AM] Dina : white?
[31/12/2014, 5:47:13 AM] SF: Yeah I think she's comfortable in all those regards.
[31/12/2014, 5:47:22 AM] SF: So clearly, anyone having a hard time must have brought it on themselves.
[31/12/2014, 5:48:35 AM] live:riotarms: Some people just like being vile
[31/12/2014, 5:48:42 AM] Dina : what a fucking bitch
[31/12/2014, 5:48:44 AM] live:riotarms: Some people are just cruel
[31/12/2014, 5:48:55 AM] Dina : ugh I hate that word, GG brings out the worst in me
[31/12/2014, 5:49:49 AM] Charloppe: i was yelling all sorts of things to myself this morning
[31/12/2014, 5:50:04 AM] Dina : the trolls are mostly sociopath study comes to mind
[31/12/2014, 5:50:14 AM] David Gallant: I actually got called out by a bunch of GG-supporting trans folks a while back when I ranted about this very thing.
[31/12/2014, 5:50:16 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Dan?! Dan?!
[31/12/2014, 5:50:31 AM] SF: I dunno I think she's a bitch.
[31/12/2014, 5:50:35 AM] David Gallant: They claimed to have found community within GG, even the strength to come out as trans for the first time.
[31/12/2014, 5:50:50 AM] Dina : lol that was Devi Ever's bs
[31/12/2014, 5:50:56 AM] Dina : I remember it David
[31/12/2014, 5:51:00 AM] David Gallant: I mean... it's all kind of incredulous to believe, since the conversation was about tolerating GG's aggressive transphobia.
[31/12/2014, 5:51:10 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Grace hates me, so...
[31/12/2014, 5:51:22 AM] Veerender Jubbal: But a lot of people do! smiles
[31/12/2014, 5:51:30 AM] SF: And yet it was then-Devi's calling out Milo's transphobia that got her mobbed by GG.
[31/12/2014, 5:51:55 AM] Charloppe: i feel like grace i slowly coming around to things.
[31/12/2014, 5:52:08 AM] Dina : Veerender we're besties in that regard too, Grace screen capped every innocuous tweet I made for a while and added commentary like "shut up you bitch"
[31/12/2014, 5:52:15 AM] SF: Because they love separating opinions as being irrelevant to the cause, until they feel threatened by it.
[31/12/2014, 5:52:17 AM] Dina : "what a fucking dumb cunt" etc
[31/12/2014, 5:52:36 AM] live:riotarms: It's really fucking hard dealing with shit so I sympathise with Grace a bit
[31/12/2014, 5:52:43 AM] SF: She does seem to be trying pretty hard to reform.
[31/12/2014, 5:53:00 AM] Dan Olson: What what? My name being called? Sorry, I got distracted
[31/12/2014, 5:53:02 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Besties for fucking life.
[31/12/2014, 5:53:03 AM] live:riotarms: I had untreated anxiety and depression for close to a decade and I used to be pretty vile
[31/12/2014, 5:53:06 AM] David Gallant: She reached out to me privately and very sincerely apologized for what she'd done to me in the past.
[31/12/2014, 5:53:07 AM] SF: I still wouldn't trust her, but there's a decent human underneath, smothered with channisms.
[31/12/2014, 5:53:10 AM] Dan Olson: <3
[31/12/2014, 5:53:19 AM] live:riotarms: Still feel awful, actually
[31/12/2014, 5:53:19 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/1lb_cake/status/550046728586416128
[31/12/2014, 5:53:22 AM] Charloppe: headdesk
[31/12/2014, 5:53:23 AM] SF: As an ex-asshole myself I can sympathize.
[31/12/2014, 5:53:24 AM] Dina : More power to her, I hope she finds some peace because that stalker shit is appaling
[31/12/2014, 5:53:25 AM] Charloppe: headdesk
[31/12/2014, 5:53:29 AM] Charloppe: headdesk
[31/12/2014, 5:53:30 AM] David Gallant: I think her attempt to reform now is genuine. However, she still has a lot to make up for.
[31/12/2014, 5:53:35 AM] SF: Not that you're obligated to give her the time of day of course.
[31/12/2014, 5:53:49 AM] Veerender Jubbal: To Dina: https://33.media.tumblr.com/8c6b6247d4cbfe396a41a32da970abd2/tumblr_nbciagchsH1r16thao1_250.gif
[31/12/2014, 5:54:04 AM] live:riotarms: They want her to kill herself, it's insane
[31/12/2014, 5:54:33 AM] Charloppe: chobit tried to get chole to kill herself
[31/12/2014, 5:54:37 AM] live:riotarms: Chobitcoin is a threat to others, I can't stand that
[31/12/2014, 5:54:42 AM] Ian Cheong: Don't argue with randos
[31/12/2014, 5:54:44 AM] Charloppe: wants to bully spacedad to kill herself
[31/12/2014, 5:54:56 AM] SF: Chobit is legit more likely to cause someone to die than all the others combined.
[31/12/2014, 5:54:58 AM] Charloppe: why in the hell would i support her because shes trans
[31/12/2014, 5:55:02 AM] SF: Including Rogue.
[31/12/2014, 5:55:07 AM] Charloppe: agreed
[31/12/2014, 5:55:07 AM] live:riotarms: The fact she hasn't been run out of GG speaks volumes
[31/12/2014, 5:55:11 AM] Dan Olson: a'ight, gonna go pick up some hardware and get some editing done since I just realized my deadline on all these cocktail mixing videos is sneaking up on me.
[31/12/2014, 5:55:30 AM] Veerender Jubbal: hugs Dan
[31/12/2014, 5:55:37 AM] live:riotarms: Does anyone know what Izels deal is
[31/12/2014, 5:55:50 AM] Ian Cheong: I'm gonna catch some sleep
[31/12/2014, 5:55:58 AM] live:riotarms: That guy is almost entertaining to watch he's so disconnected
[31/12/2014, 5:55:58 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Take care, Ian!
[31/12/2014, 5:55:59 AM] Ian Cheong: Good night all
[31/12/2014, 5:56:01 AM] Dina : Veerender (hug)
[31/12/2014, 5:56:02 AM] live:riotarms: Later ian
[31/12/2014, 5:56:06 AM] Dina : night Ian!!
[31/12/2014, 5:56:12 AM] Dina : thanks for the awesome email today!
[31/12/2014, 5:56:19 AM] Ian Cheong: No problem
[31/12/2014, 5:56:37 AM] SF: G'night!
[31/12/2014, 5:56:45 AM] Ian Cheong: Night!
[31/12/2014, 5:57:07 AM] SF: I find a lot of the vocal gators vile but Chobit is one I genuinely think needs to be in prison or a psych ward.
[31/12/2014, 5:57:27 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Polygon's list was super white, David.
[31/12/2014, 5:57:52 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/1lb_cake/status/550047744102895617
[31/12/2014, 5:58:00 AM] Charloppe: these ppl exist
[31/12/2014, 5:58:28 AM] Tesseract: poundingcake is so fucking insufferable
[31/12/2014, 5:59:10 AM] SF: Chloe ended up in the ER on a subsequent attempt recently IIRC.
[31/12/2014, 5:59:33 AM] SF: Don't bother engaging. You're not going to teach them empathy.
[31/12/2014, 6:00:10 AM] Charloppe: sigh these ppl treat suicide like a joke
[31/12/2014, 6:00:56 AM] live:riotarms: No cure for sociopathy, sadly
[31/12/2014, 6:01:33 AM] Dina : ...I just hit Chris' gator tears intermission and I snort laughd.
[31/12/2014, 6:01:42 AM] Dina : so glad no one was around to see that
[31/12/2014, 6:01:44 AM] Charloppe: i really thought the gaming community was more open then this
[31/12/2014, 6:01:49 AM] Charloppe: illusion shattared
[31/12/2014, 6:01:49 AM] Dina : it's not
[31/12/2014, 6:02:04 AM] Dina : it's basically a wet sticky shart on the face of the artform
[31/12/2014, 6:02:12 AM] Dina : and reflective of 20 years of gatekeeping
[31/12/2014, 6:02:28 AM] Tesseract: the gaming community is pure shit
[31/12/2014, 6:03:20 AM] Charloppe: i just thought that since alot of gamers got bullied they would be more aware of the impact that bullying others can cause.
[31/12/2014, 6:03:37 AM] SF: You'd think that about nerds in general but look at Silicon Valley.
[31/12/2014, 6:03:37 AM] Tesseract: I doubt most of them were ever bullied
[31/12/2014, 6:03:52 AM] drinternetphd: fucking barf
[31/12/2014, 6:03:57 AM] SF: Pecking orders aren't about whether you're at the top, they're about whether you're at the bottom.
[31/12/2014, 6:04:03 AM] SF: Everyone just wants someone beneath them.
[31/12/2014, 6:04:15 AM] drinternetphd: the boston magazine reporter who asked me to talk about my relationship with eron pre-gg is still going ahead with the story
[31/12/2014, 6:04:17 AM] Dina : yep^
[31/12/2014, 6:04:21 AM] drinternetphd: despite being told not to multiple times
[31/12/2014, 6:04:29 AM] Dina : wtf?
[31/12/2014, 6:04:29 AM] drinternetphd: and has already interviewed eron
[31/12/2014, 6:04:36 AM] Dina : WTF
[31/12/2014, 6:04:38 AM] live:riotarms: Ugh
[31/12/2014, 6:05:04 AM] drinternetphd: I am trying to write a response that isn't just "please fuck off forever"
[31/12/2014, 6:05:24 AM] drinternetphd: can y'all give me some advice? I can copypaste the correspondence
[31/12/2014, 6:05:26 AM] SF: As always you're put in a position where you're forced to be a saint when you shouldn't have to be..
[31/12/2014, 6:05:30 AM] live:riotarms: The Internet has given people some bizzare and harmful ideas about privacy :/
[31/12/2014, 6:05:40 AM] drinternetphd: spam incoming
[31/12/2014, 6:05:41 AM] Charloppe: chloe ending up in the er is apparently faking suicide
[31/12/2014, 6:05:48 AM] drinternetphd: his first email: Dear Ms. Quinn,

I am writing a story on your former relationship with Eron Gjoni for a coming issue of Boston Magazine.

This will not focus on the savage attacks against you and others after Gjoni published his blog, but rather will document the relationship up to the point when Gjoni decided to publish. Are you willing and available for an interview sometime in the next week to share your account of the relationship?

Thank you very much. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Best,

Zak
[31/12/2014, 6:05:48 AM] Charloppe: I am filled with so much hate right now
[31/12/2014, 6:06:01 AM] SF: That's TB's kind of reasoning.
[31/12/2014, 6:06:05 AM] drinternetphd: my response:

Hi Zak, thanks for contacting me.

As you may have discovered in your research, I am currently not willing nor able to discuss any details of my personal life, for fear that any such published information invariably puts me in danger of further attacks by Gamergate, regardless of their veracity or slant. This is, sadly, the reality of the situation, and I am looking out for my personal safety when I say this. Beyond that, I honestly feel that I am entitled to some small semblance of privacy left, and do not think that details of my personal relationships are anyone's business but those involved with them.

You may also know that my ex, Eron Gjoni, is currently under a restraining order from the Boston Municipal Court, the provisions of which dictate that he is unable to discuss my personal life, past or present, in any published form. This has been issued due to the clear danger any such airing of personal information about me places me in.

Please let me know if you have any further questions.
[31/12/2014, 6:06:26 AM] drinternetphd: His response: 

Thanks very much, Zoe. That would have been my response as well.

I'll let you know if I have any follow-up questions.

Best,

Zak
[31/12/2014, 6:06:44 AM] drinternetphd: My response: 

I am really, really hoping you're not going to run a one-sided story about this with only my abusive ex's account.
[31/12/2014, 6:06:59 AM] drinternetphd: His response: 

Dear Zoe,

I would never write nor publish that. Are you available for a very brief phone conversation to discuss the crux of this story, off the record?

Best,

Zak
[31/12/2014, 6:07:13 AM] SF: Oh, so he lied.
[31/12/2014, 6:07:16 AM] drinternetphd: My response:

That's good to hear. 

Is there any way we could stick to email instead?
[31/12/2014, 6:07:22 AM] live:riotarms: Barf
[31/12/2014, 6:07:34 AM] drinternetphd: (weeks go by)
[31/12/2014, 6:07:40 AM] David Gallant: Starting to sound sketchy.
[31/12/2014, 6:07:50 AM] drinternetphd: his response:
Dear Zoe,
 
I’m sorry for the delay.
 
The last thing I want this story to be is something that provides attackers with more poison to spew. That was my first question when the editors approached me with the story, and they assured me that all we want to do with Gamergate is include a brief section summarizing the vicious, vile assaults on you and many others.
 
This story will focus on Eron Gjoni’s blog post, and how and why it ignited such savagery. It will feature reflections from as many possible sides and as many possible sources as are willing to speak. I would be very happy to talk to anyone you recommend.  And of course the details of your private life you don’t want to reveal are not for the public record. Anything you don’t want to talk about, we wouldn’t talk about. Anything you do, we would.
 
This story will not appear for another three months. As Gamergate continues, the story of its origin has blurred, and never really been visited in depth. I aim to do that in this story, and I can’t get at the truth of it without talking to its first victim.
 
Thank you very much again. Please let me know if you have any questions.
 
Best,
 
Zak
[31/12/2014, 6:07:53 AM] SF: How is the actual nature of your relationship even relevant to what's happened at this point.
[31/12/2014, 6:08:13 AM] drinternetphd: (I didn't respond so he sent me this this morning)
[31/12/2014, 6:08:14 AM] drinternetphd: Dear Zoe,

Hope you've been well.

I am finished with the reporting of Mr. Gjoni's side of the story. If you, or anyone you would recommend I speak to, are available to talk sometime soon, please let me know. Again, it would be a tremendous help in crafting the full scope of this story if you are available to talk, about anything you'd like, either over the phone, over dinner, coffee, Skype, anything. I know you've suffered immeasurable pain and abuse, and as I've said, I hope that this story will in some small way help alleviate some of that. If you have any time at all for a conversation about your life, your career, your thoughts on the story, I would greatly appreciate it. To give you a sense of the kind of writing I'm interested in, here are a few recent samples: http://zakjason.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Memorial-Days.pdf, http://zakjason.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/fea_schools_madeloni-2.pdf, http://zakjason.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Turning-Point_ZEJ.pdf.

Thank you very much.

Best,

Zak
[31/12/2014, 6:08:44 AM] drinternetphd: currently drafting mine, this is all I have so far:

Zak,

I'm still pretty disappointed to hear that you're going ahead with the story, especially considering my ex has publicly stated that he won't work with any journalist that doesn't spend multiple paragraphs defaming me (source here: ) and has willfully misrepresented people who have interviewed him in the past (source here: ). It's especially disheartening to read this while I am still not allowed to be home in boston because of the frequency and specificity of the threats made against me. I am not sure how continuing to give my ex a platform to try and ruin my life is somehow meant to alleviate this nightmare, or how asking to revisit the relationship that was incredibly traumatic and abusive towards me is either. I sincerely do not understand your motivations here, or why you are continuing to ask this of me.
[31/12/2014, 6:08:45 AM] SF: So he said "no that's reasonable I agree with you" then came back with an ultimatum.
[31/12/2014, 6:09:10 AM] live:riotarms: By interviewing Gjoni could he be found to be in contempt of court or open to legal action?
[31/12/2014, 6:09:31 AM] drinternetphd: fighting this in court so far has been like pushing rope into a small hole
[31/12/2014, 6:09:46 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/550050865592406017 cant believe I have to make this tweet
[31/12/2014, 6:09:47 AM] live:riotarms: Gah,  I'm sorry
[31/12/2014, 6:09:52 AM] Charloppe: ppl are so fucking dense
[31/12/2014, 6:10:03 AM] drinternetphd: so I think I am gonna refer him to other women he's harassed
[31/12/2014, 6:10:09 AM] SF: I wonder if citing Gjoni's tumblr post where he talks specifically about journalism being a deliberate smokescreen tactic would be useful.
[31/12/2014, 6:10:54 AM] SF: https://archive.today/OVXNf#selection-49.11-49.113 (that one)
[31/12/2014, 6:11:12 AM] live:riotarms: You could maybe cite the ethical code he's violating (the same one Milo violated)
[31/12/2014, 6:12:14 AM] Dina : um
[31/12/2014, 6:12:26 AM] Dina : I don't think anything would deter this person
[31/12/2014, 6:12:34 AM] live:riotarms: Yeah
[31/12/2014, 6:12:35 AM] Dina : they are clearly reaching for maximum drama
[31/12/2014, 6:12:38 AM] Dina : aka pageviews
[31/12/2014, 6:12:44 AM] drinternetphd: it seems that way
[31/12/2014, 6:12:44 AM] Dina : not a shred of decency
[31/12/2014, 6:12:54 AM] drinternetphd: so now it's about damage control
[31/12/2014, 6:13:04 AM] Dina : Zoe definitely link him to previous exes he abused
[31/12/2014, 6:13:08 AM] Dina : if they're willing to talk
[31/12/2014, 6:13:13 AM] drinternetphd: I'm his second girlfriend
[31/12/2014, 6:13:19 AM] Dina : that's honestly the best option
[31/12/2014, 6:13:27 AM] drinternetphd: I am referring him to other women he's since abused tho
[31/12/2014, 6:13:35 AM] Dina : well the first and I'm sorry you were in a relationship with an abusive shit
[31/12/2014, 6:13:48 AM] Dina : that too
[31/12/2014, 6:14:01 AM] drinternetphd: bleh
[31/12/2014, 6:14:11 AM] drinternetphd: I am gonna go for a walk and clear my head I think
[31/12/2014, 6:14:15 AM] live:riotarms: Who did that Hateful Boyfriend post
[31/12/2014, 6:14:21 AM] SF: Yeah, good idea.
[31/12/2014, 6:14:32 AM] live:riotarms: They'd be a good pick to refute his shit
[31/12/2014, 6:15:28 AM] drinternetphd: yeah I already sent an email asking if she's down
[31/12/2014, 6:15:34 AM] Dina : hugs, Zoe :(
[31/12/2014, 6:15:37 AM] live:riotarms: That's awful though, I'm really sorry these arseholes are doing this to you
[31/12/2014, 6:15:37 AM] drinternetphd: <3
[31/12/2014, 6:15:42 AM] drinternetphd: if anyone thinks of anything please lemme know
[31/12/2014, 6:15:43 AM] Dina : (hug)
[31/12/2014, 6:15:49 AM] Dina : will do
[31/12/2014, 6:16:01 AM] David Gallant: Hugs if you want them, Zoe. This guy is ridiculous.
[31/12/2014, 6:17:53 AM] live:riotarms: Only thing I can think of is if you agree to talk about GG beyond Eron if he's willing to let you make suggestions on his final draft
[31/12/2014, 6:18:50 AM] live:riotarms: That's not really that helpful, sorry
[31/12/2014, 6:31:33 AM] live:riotarms: Fuckin abusers, argh
[31/12/2014, 6:33:34 AM] David Gallant: I didn't know Eron had abused other women.
[31/12/2014, 6:33:37 AM] David Gallant: Goddamnit.
[31/12/2014, 6:35:47 AM] live:riotarms: What upsets me a bit is this is the hill he wants to die on, in his twenties
[31/12/2014, 6:36:31 AM] live:riotarms: Regardless of the cost and ugh this isn't the best place for a third party to weigh in with a hot take
[31/12/2014, 6:38:23 AM] drinternetphd: it continually drives me mad that eron's shit has been totally dropped from the narrative around what GG is
[31/12/2014, 6:41:10 AM] Charloppe: :( gg has become such a clusterfuck of stupid shit.
[31/12/2014, 6:41:23 AM] live:riotarms: And you fuckin screencapped them saying LET'S START TALKING ABOUT ETHICS TO CONFUSE THE SJWS
[31/12/2014, 6:41:43 AM] Remy: Oh fuck me I'm in the wrong chat room again
[31/12/2014, 6:41:47 AM] Remy: I'm so sorry I just woke up
[31/12/2014, 6:42:06 AM] Charloppe: no probs
[31/12/2014, 6:42:32 AM] live:riotarms: I was trying to break down some fucker linking to the log at WHTM and a sealion jumped in going "that log is salted!"
[31/12/2014, 6:42:42 AM] Remy: Good morning/afternoon everybody
[31/12/2014, 6:42:43 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/GamerGatoruy/status/550059199020171264
[31/12/2014, 6:42:45 AM] Charloppe: wow
[31/12/2014, 6:42:49 AM] live:riotarms: What does that even mean?
[31/12/2014, 6:42:49 AM] Charloppe: such deflection
[31/12/2014, 6:42:52 AM] David Gallant: "log is salted"? What?
[31/12/2014, 6:42:53 AM] drinternetphd: ha that log isn't even mine
[31/12/2014, 6:43:09 AM] drinternetphd: the irc released it and edited it to make themselves look better
[31/12/2014, 6:43:21 AM] live:riotarms: yes
[31/12/2014, 6:43:36 AM] David Gallant: So I guess the log IS salted, just not by Zoe.
[31/12/2014, 6:43:44 AM] live:riotarms: These fuckers are from Bizzaro World
[31/12/2014, 6:44:02 AM] live:riotarms: If they edited it to me themselves look BETTER...
[31/12/2014, 6:44:09 AM] live:riotarms: I shudder to think
[31/12/2014, 6:46:08 AM] SF: https://twitter.com/GhaziSays Apparently I am now considered "Ghazi" even though I've been there like twice, and they RT'd me talking about homophobia toward Ninja Theory that had nothing to do with GG.
[31/12/2014, 6:46:50 AM] Remy: Okay
[31/12/2014, 6:47:04 AM] Remy: And I read that weird series of e-mails, Zoe, sounds like a smarty reporter if they even are one
[31/12/2014, 6:47:08 AM] Remy: smarmy*
[31/12/2014, 6:47:20 AM] drinternetphd: I do not like this person
[31/12/2014, 6:47:54 AM] Remy: Okay so when you say "salted" is this in the sense of "They're salting the mines"
[31/12/2014, 6:47:57 AM] Remy: As in placing false leads?
[31/12/2014, 6:49:32 AM] live:riotarms: I assumed it was just usual gater lying
[31/12/2014, 6:49:57 AM] Remy: nah that's totally a reference to that colloquialism.
[31/12/2014, 6:49:57 AM] live:riotarms: It's all they got, reality is a SJW
[31/12/2014, 6:50:23 AM] Remy: life's a beach
[31/12/2014, 6:50:26 AM] Remy: reality is a SJW
[31/12/2014, 6:50:40 AM] live:riotarms: Editing that log in the time frame it was published in beyond find and delete would be impossible
[31/12/2014, 6:51:47 AM] David Gallant: And there's still a lot of shit in there that makes them look horrible.
[31/12/2014, 6:52:02 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/549941396095119360
[31/12/2014, 6:52:09 AM] David Gallant: Though it probably was edited with the chan ethos, "if it's not illegal, it's okay"
[31/12/2014, 6:52:11 AM] Charloppe: Really happy ppl are seeing this
[31/12/2014, 6:52:27 AM] live:riotarms: Nothing that doesn't make them look horrible
[31/12/2014, 6:52:54 AM] live:riotarms: Zoe, I was totally channelling you during a recent dispute I settled on and can't discuss
[31/12/2014, 6:53:46 AM] live:riotarms: But it was super helpful to have your example because I tend to melt into a pool of anxiety juice when shit goes down
[31/12/2014, 6:54:10 AM] Tesseract: 1k rts holy shit
[31/12/2014, 6:55:56 AM] Remy: Twitter blowing up your phone Tess?
[31/12/2014, 6:56:21 AM] Charloppe: thats what I said
[31/12/2014, 6:56:27 AM] Tesseract: charlotte, not me
[31/12/2014, 6:56:52 AM] Tesseract: the most I've ever gotten was 500 on that RIP roguestar post and only after I pinned it for ages
[31/12/2014, 6:57:10 AM] Charloppe: never thought my voice that I typed in anger would recieve this attention.
[31/12/2014, 6:57:30 AM] Chris Kluwe: hola
[31/12/2014, 6:57:43 AM] Charloppe: Its something parents need to see
[31/12/2014, 6:57:49 AM] Charloppe: hi chris
[31/12/2014, 6:57:55 AM] Chris Kluwe: wardell is trying to come after me on twitter! fun time!
[31/12/2014, 6:58:12 AM] Remy: Oh I didn't see the link
[31/12/2014, 6:58:15 AM] Charloppe: I got dogpiled for the first time today
[31/12/2014, 6:58:19 AM] Charloppe: it was weird
[31/12/2014, 6:58:27 AM] live:riotarms: Fucking Wardell man
[31/12/2014, 6:58:39 AM] Remy: Oh god
[31/12/2014, 6:58:39 AM] SF: Wardell is unfortunately better at not putting his foot quite so directly in his mouth so he's more just aggravating to argue with.
[31/12/2014, 6:58:41 AM] Remy: Wardell
[31/12/2014, 6:59:06 AM] Remy: For as much as he is compliant with GG's nonsense he is very good at keeping the shit off his shoes
[31/12/2014, 6:59:50 AM] Remy: Oh wow Leelah is trending on Twitter?
[31/12/2014, 6:59:58 AM] Remy: I mentioned this in the other chat
[31/12/2014, 7:00:11 AM] Remy: But I got that station that mis-gendered her in the news report to change their story http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/warren-county/leelah-alcorn-suicide-note-sparks-transgender-discussion
[31/12/2014, 7:00:25 AM] Remy: They hadn't seen her note and her parents stonewalled them on info
[31/12/2014, 7:00:40 AM] Chris Kluwe: i've been trying to retweet and raise awareness on Leelah
[31/12/2014, 7:00:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: that story sucks :/
[31/12/2014, 7:00:52 AM] Charloppe: I very timid reading articles on trans ppl. all they do is anger me usually
[31/12/2014, 7:01:10 AM] David Gallant: Funny, we have record of Wardell committing very blatant libel against Zoe earlier today.
[31/12/2014, 7:01:14 AM] Charloppe: misgendering plus showing photos pre transition
[31/12/2014, 7:01:34 AM] Remy: I think there needs to be a word spoken in journalism schools on how to properly show respect for a person after death. Seems like it would be a topic they cover but apparently they are clueless when it comes to trans people
[31/12/2014, 7:02:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: i think part of the problem is that they just haven't cared to find out if there's a proper way to do it or not
[31/12/2014, 7:02:20 AM] Chris Kluwe: which hopefully will change
[31/12/2014, 7:02:25 AM] Remy: David: When I say Wardell is good at keeping the shit off of his shoes, bear in mind I am not a lawyer and have never seen a successful or unsuccessful libel case. In my head it's an imaginary thing people threaten to use but never do
[31/12/2014, 7:02:26 AM] Charloppe: all article like to start with so and so born a man did x. Upsets me everytime
[31/12/2014, 7:03:16 AM] Remy: In my head, in the future, it would be considered much the same way braces and eyeglasses are.
[31/12/2014, 7:03:31 AM] Remy: You wouldn't mention "This girl committed suicide and was wearing corrective eyeglasses"
[31/12/2014, 7:03:39 AM] Chris Kluwe: right
[31/12/2014, 7:03:47 AM] Remy: Just like you wouldn't mention "This girl died and at some point in time had a re-alignment surgical procedure"
[31/12/2014, 7:03:52 AM] Remy: Like... not relevant
[31/12/2014, 7:03:53 AM] Peter Coffin: Yeah that sorry is really sad
[31/12/2014, 7:04:04 AM] Chris Kluwe: "this football player died and had an ACL surgery at one point"
[31/12/2014, 7:04:05 AM] Peter Coffin: Story
[31/12/2014, 7:04:10 AM] Remy: Also the cases where surgery hasn't been adoption and scuh
[31/12/2014, 7:04:11 AM] David Gallant: Fair point, Stephen. I've been threatened with libel before (baseless) so I'm only going by the Canadian court definition that I know.
[31/12/2014, 7:04:39 AM] Peter Coffin: My wife sent it to me yesterday, the parents really make me sad
[31/12/2014, 7:05:00 AM] Charloppe: they are misrepresenting her even in death
[31/12/2014, 7:05:09 AM] Charloppe: said she got hit by a truck
[31/12/2014, 7:05:18 AM] Peter Coffin: Yeah
[31/12/2014, 7:05:42 AM] Peter Coffin: Tbh I consider them monsters, particularly the mom
[31/12/2014, 7:06:10 AM] Charloppe: they deserve any scorn recieved
[31/12/2014, 7:06:24 AM] Charloppe: this was a avoidable death
[31/12/2014, 7:06:31 AM] Charloppe: all they had to do was listen
[31/12/2014, 7:06:32 AM] Remy: Parents suck
[31/12/2014, 7:06:43 AM] Peter Coffin: So concerned with their reputation in their church they made their daughter's life so bad
[31/12/2014, 7:06:51 AM] Remy: I've had to receive more training to drive a vehicle than anyone has had to have for raising a human being
[31/12/2014, 7:07:03 AM] Charloppe: My heart goes out to leelah but not to her parents
[31/12/2014, 7:07:32 AM] Peter Coffin: Well the popular approach is you can't know until you are in the situation
[31/12/2014, 7:07:50 AM] Peter Coffin: This is just not true, though. You can know.
[31/12/2014, 7:08:01 AM] Peter Coffin: You can read psychology books and research
[31/12/2014, 7:08:14 AM] Peter Coffin: You can look to your own experience as a child
[31/12/2014, 7:08:22 AM] Charloppe: I'm really lucky I have the parents I do. If they rejected me I would not be here
[31/12/2014, 7:08:29 AM] Peter Coffin: There are so many ways to know how to parent
[31/12/2014, 7:08:39 AM] Charloppe: I was at a breaking point telling them
[31/12/2014, 7:08:48 AM] Charloppe: agreeed
[31/12/2014, 7:09:05 AM] Peter Coffin: I'm glad they accepted you
[31/12/2014, 7:09:31 AM] Charloppe: my mum was accepting right away. dad took awhile but is fully supportive.
[31/12/2014, 7:11:04 AM] Peter Coffin: It's probably confusing for older generations. They don't even get smart phones
[31/12/2014, 7:11:04 AM] David Gallant: I'm still afraid to tell my parents I'm bi.
[31/12/2014, 7:11:37 AM] Charloppe: :( I know that fear all to well
[31/12/2014, 7:11:40 AM] Charloppe: hugs
[31/12/2014, 7:11:50 AM] Peter Coffin: Sorry David
[31/12/2014, 7:12:46 AM] live:riotarms: I sometimes wonder if I'd be bi if not for how my mum acted at times
[31/12/2014, 7:12:58 AM] live:riotarms: I was quite confused last year
[31/12/2014, 7:13:08 AM] Peter Coffin: I mean. I'm mayo, I have no "thing I'm afraid to say" but you have my sympathy as a human being. All of you
[31/12/2014, 7:14:05 AM] Peter Coffin: Regardless of what its about. I just wish people understood it's okay to do or be anything that's not hurting others
[31/12/2014, 7:14:27 AM] Peter Coffin: And hope much it hurts people to ignore their feelings
[31/12/2014, 7:15:44 AM] live:riotarms: Homophobia and transphobia are systems as much as anything
[31/12/2014, 7:16:05 AM] live:riotarms: I figure the parent is afraid for the child as much as of them in most cases
[31/12/2014, 7:16:26 AM] live:riotarms: Haven't looked into this one for my own mental well being honestly
[31/12/2014, 7:16:50 AM] Charloppe: You all have my respect. Hearing simple things like "I support you no matter how you identify" is powerful to anyone struggling.
[31/12/2014, 7:17:50 AM] Remy: <3
[31/12/2014, 7:18:21 AM] Remy: How very much like humanity
[31/12/2014, 7:18:32 AM] Remy: Weathering the most wicked storms, we carve out our own little safe space
[31/12/2014, 7:18:50 AM] Remy: And we huddle and keep each other warm and tell each other stories as we plan for the days to come
[31/12/2014, 7:19:16 AM] live:riotarms: Life's so fucking hard already
[31/12/2014, 7:19:23 AM] live:riotarms: Why make it harder?
[31/12/2014, 7:20:01 AM] Charloppe: very much agree
[31/12/2014, 7:23:15 AM] Peter Coffin: good question
[31/12/2014, 7:26:58 AM] Remy: just plat Lego
[31/12/2014, 7:27:14 AM] Chris Kluwe: so KiA is starting to eat itself
http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qtw66/adrian_chmielarz_wake_up_on_angryjoeshow_and_the/
[31/12/2014, 7:27:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: reading the hand wringings and justifications is all the popcorn
[31/12/2014, 7:28:13 AM] Rob: WHEEE
[31/12/2014, 7:28:23 AM] Tesseract: hehehe
[31/12/2014, 7:28:27 AM] Rob: Rob pours himself a mountain of booze.
[31/12/2014, 7:28:30 AM] Rob: TIME FOR DRUNKEN SECRET OF MANA
[31/12/2014, 7:28:46 AM] Remy: What are they crying about?
[31/12/2014, 7:29:12 AM] Chris Kluwe: tone policing
[31/12/2014, 7:29:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: within their own ranks
[31/12/2014, 7:29:26 AM] David Gallant: Wonderful. :/
[31/12/2014, 7:29:33 AM] Remy: Oh wow
[31/12/2014, 7:29:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: some are like "Hey, maybe we should try to engage civilly and not throw poop"
[31/12/2014, 7:29:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: and the rest are "AAAAAAHHHH AHHHHH AHHHHHHH <feces>"
[31/12/2014, 7:29:52 AM] Tesseract: hah
[31/12/2014, 7:29:55 AM] Remy: I'm just impressed at how many of them are saying "We gotta un-fuck ourselves"
[31/12/2014, 7:30:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: now comes the next step
[31/12/2014, 7:30:11 AM] Chris Kluwe: where they realize it's too late
[31/12/2014, 7:30:16 AM] Charloppe: whats this? are they becoming self aware?
[31/12/2014, 7:30:19 AM] Remy: And the smart ones abandon ship
[31/12/2014, 7:30:53 AM] Chris Kluwe: ETHICS!
[31/12/2014, 7:30:55 AM] Remy: All hail the SS GG, as it sinks into the pier. Some say there are still those desperate enough for CP to dive down and search the depths for its sunken ruins
[31/12/2014, 7:30:56 AM] Chris Kluwe: "If you wish to obliterate the trolls, anonymously donate millions of follower bots to their Twitter accounts and destroy their engagement ranking. Then the trolls, the LWs, and the eCelebs will be finished for good as their tweets will not rank to the top any longer. (Having 2 million followers with a 200 retweet average is the same as having no account at all)

http://www.seochat.com/c/a/social/twitter-engagement-measure/

Why simply ignore them when you can anonymously cut them off from their attention addiction and be done with them for good? Why even dance around the topic? Why endure any stress of letting them control the narrative at all?

Just simply donate the bots to them and tell no one you did it. Solved problem.
"
[31/12/2014, 7:31:23 AM] Chris Kluwe: curious to see if anyone upboats that
[31/12/2014, 7:31:35 AM] Remy: Oh right
[31/12/2014, 7:31:40 AM] Remy: They still think we live off of Twitter
[31/12/2014, 7:31:48 AM] Remy: I wish they could kick me off of Twitter. I'd get more work done
[31/12/2014, 7:32:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: lol. it's like 50 degress F outside, and my 4 year old is asking if she can go in the pool
[31/12/2014, 7:32:39 AM] Rob: is it heated?
[31/12/2014, 7:32:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: not right now
[31/12/2014, 7:32:50 AM] Rob: oh, boo
[31/12/2014, 7:32:53 AM] Chris Kluwe: too expensive in the winter :/
[31/12/2014, 7:33:01 AM] Rob: Yeah, it really is
[31/12/2014, 7:33:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: even though a socal winter hardly qualifies for the word
[31/12/2014, 7:33:04 AM] Remy: Chuggo Buggo is crying up a storm tho
[31/12/2014, 7:33:09 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah he is
[31/12/2014, 7:33:10 AM] Remy: "They called us Nazis"
[31/12/2014, 7:33:13 AM] Remy: WAAA
[31/12/2014, 7:33:14 AM] Rob: I was just in SoCal!
[31/12/2014, 7:33:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: i don't think ol Chuggo's gonna be back
[31/12/2014, 7:33:35 AM] Rob: My parents live in northern santa Barbara county
[31/12/2014, 7:33:38 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh nice
[31/12/2014, 7:33:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: my wife's parents live in Ventura
[31/12/2014, 7:33:56 AM] Rob: Oh, cool! My parents are in Los Alamos, near santa maria and buelton
[31/12/2014, 7:34:17 AM] Remy: Okay but anyone who read Chuggo Buggo's crying, can anyone explain to me why he decided to mention the GamerGate Christmas album?
[31/12/2014, 7:34:23 AM] Chris Kluwe: ok, well i have to get going
[31/12/2014, 7:34:25 AM] Chris Kluwe: no idea :p
[31/12/2014, 7:34:29 AM] Rob: Later, Chris!
[31/12/2014, 7:34:35 AM] Remy: Because I feel like he's saying in a sense of "Why are they bullying us we're such good people, we even made a Christmas album"
[31/12/2014, 7:34:43 AM] Remy: later Chris (dance)
[31/12/2014, 7:35:18 AM] nicholas.boterf: And I know I’m late (had to help the family bring in groceries), but I’m sorry you got dogpiled Charlotte. That’s never pleasant.
[31/12/2014, 7:35:21 AM] live:riotarms: If I lived in SoCal I'd just LARP Repo Man all day
[31/12/2014, 7:35:35 AM] Remy: XD
[31/12/2014, 7:35:51 AM] Charloppe: someone vomited up this brand of stupid https://twitter.com/BoondockSaint50/status/550072464274096128
[31/12/2014, 7:35:52 AM] Rob: I'd LARP demolition man b/c taco bell wins the franchise wars
[31/12/2014, 7:36:31 AM] Charloppe: Charloppe runs out of exploding building with tacos!
[31/12/2014, 7:36:38 AM] Rob: :D
[31/12/2014, 7:36:50 AM] Charloppe: PHOOOOOOENIX BLLLLLARGH
[31/12/2014, 7:36:58 AM] Rob: hahaha
[31/12/2014, 7:37:01 AM] Rob: I love that movie so much
[31/12/2014, 7:37:27 AM] live:riotarms: It would make sense for Repo and Demolition Man to be the same canon
[31/12/2014, 7:37:30 AM] Charloppe: many explosions!
[31/12/2014, 7:39:29 AM] Peter Coffin: so when is sjwcon
[31/12/2014, 7:40:03 AM] Charloppe: ^ this
[31/12/2014, 7:40:24 AM] Remy: XD
[31/12/2014, 7:40:25 AM] Peter Coffin: i either want there to be a real sjwcon or for us to pretend to organize one
[31/12/2014, 7:40:33 AM] Remy: We would all have to wear costumes to protect our identity
[31/12/2014, 7:40:35 AM] Peter Coffin: and publicize the shit out of it
[31/12/2014, 7:40:41 AM] Remy: lol
[31/12/2014, 7:40:46 AM] Remy: We would have to pick a fake address
[31/12/2014, 7:41:04 AM] Peter Coffin: yes
[31/12/2014, 7:41:16 AM] Peter Coffin: and some people would likely attempt to protest it or something
[31/12/2014, 7:41:36 AM] Peter Coffin: which would be amazing
[31/12/2014, 7:41:43 AM] live:riotarms: Oh god damn
[31/12/2014, 7:41:52 AM] live:riotarms: That's a good idea!
[31/12/2014, 7:42:05 AM] Remy: I'm thinking maybe find out the fictional address of Willy Wonka's factory
[31/12/2014, 7:42:21 AM] Peter Coffin: nah use a real convention center
[31/12/2014, 7:42:21 AM] Remy: This is way better than my April Fool's prank idea
[31/12/2014, 7:42:31 AM] David Gallant: ... Chuggo Buggo?
[31/12/2014, 7:43:10 AM] Remy: I was gonna propose that we fake a SWATTING during an online stream (only it's us in costumes) and, like, whoever volunteers to be the player pretends to get shot and has to stay out of sight while we fake this massive cover up
[31/12/2014, 7:43:17 AM] Remy: The police will wonder what unit responded
[31/12/2014, 7:43:24 AM] Remy: Nobody will know where the stream was coming from or who was shot
[31/12/2014, 7:43:30 AM] Remy: Was it real? Is it a hoax?
[31/12/2014, 7:43:41 AM] live:riotarms: Like the Max Headroom hack
[31/12/2014, 7:43:41 AM] Remy: And then you can show the full video of everyone being alive on April 1st
[31/12/2014, 7:43:45 AM] David Gallant: Great, Randi's engaging in game dev elitism.
[31/12/2014, 7:43:57 AM] David Gallant: AMiB is trying to talk her out of it.
[31/12/2014, 7:44:03 AM] Remy: I saw
[31/12/2014, 7:44:03 AM] David Gallant: But it's not going well.
[31/12/2014, 7:44:04 AM] Peter Coffin: nooooooooooooooo
[31/12/2014, 7:44:07 AM] Peter Coffin: randi no
[31/12/2014, 7:44:09 AM] Remy: I'm not getting involved
[31/12/2014, 7:44:46 AM] Remy: I don't think she'd ever practice that form of elitism if I sent her a twine game and said "what do you think" so honestly I think she's just venting frustration at GG's sock puppets all pretending to be game dev's for cheap social status gains
[31/12/2014, 7:45:13 AM] Remy: So I say fuck it, let her get her frustrations out. It gets me frustrated when I see it, too.
[31/12/2014, 7:45:23 AM] Remy: And I haven't figured out a non-elitist way  to express those thoughts, either
[31/12/2014, 7:45:40 AM] Peter Coffin: I'll tell you how
[31/12/2014, 7:45:50 AM] live:riotarms: I asked her to try not to use mental health slurs once and she didn't reply
[31/12/2014, 7:45:52 AM] Peter Coffin: talk about how kim Kardashian is a dev
[31/12/2014, 7:46:05 AM] live:riotarms: I mean I'm not perfect but it pissed me off
[31/12/2014, 7:46:21 AM] Remy: XD I'm sorry, I know "that's not a game" is a shitty argument, but I do not call skinner box's games.
[31/12/2014, 7:46:27 AM] Remy: The same way I do not call a slot machine a game
[31/12/2014, 7:46:27 AM] Peter Coffin: like, good for kim Kardashian, imo
[31/12/2014, 7:46:29 AM] Peter Coffin: BUT
[31/12/2014, 7:46:32 AM] Remy: I know that, technically, a slot machine is a game
[31/12/2014, 7:46:37 AM] Peter Coffin: none of them look at kim k. that way
[31/12/2014, 7:46:41 AM] Peter Coffin: they HATE her
[31/12/2014, 7:46:54 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/550075388291203072
[31/12/2014, 7:47:17 AM] Charloppe: to solve a prob gg suggusts do nothing and blame fenimism
[31/12/2014, 7:47:41 AM] Peter Coffin: third wave feminism
[31/12/2014, 7:47:45 AM] Peter Coffin: specifically
[31/12/2014, 7:47:55 AM] Remy: I used to criticize Kim Kardashian's popularity and success as flimsy and hollow, but I looked back one day and felt that many of my criticisms had too many roots in sexist thinking. I now prefer to embrace her success. That being said, I do not approve of skinner box games, hers included
[31/12/2014, 7:48:00 AM] Peter Coffin: the first vaguely intersectional one
[31/12/2014, 7:48:11 AM] Remy: I think they are taking advantage of human biology in a way that many of us do not understand
[31/12/2014, 7:48:14 AM] Peter Coffin: nor do I
[31/12/2014, 7:48:25 AM] Peter Coffin: and I don't like kim Kardashian, not dislike but just ambivalent towards
[31/12/2014, 7:48:31 AM] Peter Coffin: like meh
[31/12/2014, 7:48:44 AM] David Gallant: Uh, I think Randi insulted me?!?
[31/12/2014, 7:48:48 AM] Peter Coffin: but she has made a game and most consider her nothing
[31/12/2014, 7:48:51 AM] live:riotarms: Does anyone here like Jeff Minter games?
[31/12/2014, 7:48:51 AM] David Gallant: I have no fucking clue what happened.
[31/12/2014, 7:48:52 AM] Peter Coffin: link
[31/12/2014, 7:48:59 AM] Remy: She's not going to be in a diplomatic mood. I'm just staying out
[31/12/2014, 7:49:08 AM] David Gallant: I like TxK
[31/12/2014, 7:49:18 AM] live:riotarms: It's so good right
[31/12/2014, 7:49:21 AM] David Gallant: Stephen - she doesn't follow me so she can't even see my tweets right now.
[31/12/2014, 7:49:28 AM] David Gallant: Knife - YESSSSSSSS
[31/12/2014, 7:49:31 AM] live:riotarms: Can't wait for the PS4 version
[31/12/2014, 7:49:37 AM] Remy: That's weird, David
[31/12/2014, 7:49:46 AM] live:riotarms: Even though I'll be missing the OLED
[31/12/2014, 7:51:38 AM] Remy: Also I'm looking at her thread
[31/12/2014, 7:51:40 AM] Peter Coffin: I don't really get randi's tweet on you david
[31/12/2014, 7:51:44 AM] Remy: It looks like she's being more pedantic than elitist
[31/12/2014, 7:51:47 AM] Peter Coffin: like i don't understand it
[31/12/2014, 7:51:53 AM] Remy: She's specifying game dev as the branch of coding and development.
[31/12/2014, 7:52:10 AM] Remy: If someone was going artwork, Randi would tell them they should say "I'm in game design"
[31/12/2014, 7:52:12 AM] Peter Coffin: ehhhhhhhh
[31/12/2014, 7:52:17 AM] Remy: But I haven't seen Randi's tweet on David
[31/12/2014, 7:52:44 AM] live:riotarms: Visual design has a mechanical function so fuck that
[31/12/2014, 7:53:01 AM] Peter Coffin: I don't necessarily agree with that. A director who may be more in the art or writing area of it - who may have limited coding experience but is obviously a visionary
[31/12/2014, 7:53:06 AM] Peter Coffin: is that not a game dev?
[31/12/2014, 7:54:36 AM] Peter Coffin: like there are several film directors who know nothing about lenses, and even if they do most hire directors of photography
[31/12/2014, 7:54:40 AM] Peter Coffin: are they not filmmakers?
[31/12/2014, 7:54:58 AM] live:riotarms: If you're applying a theory you're influencing the gestalt the game will become
[31/12/2014, 7:55:21 AM] live:riotarms: Even a twitch bullet hell shooter is affecting your emotional state
[31/12/2014, 7:55:23 AM] live:riotarms: Etc
[31/12/2014, 7:55:58 AM] Peter Coffin: most directors don't write their movies, too
[31/12/2014, 7:56:06 AM] Peter Coffin: the majority
[31/12/2014, 7:57:07 AM] Peter Coffin: is the sound guy not helping to make a film?
[31/12/2014, 7:57:11 AM] Peter Coffin: are they not a filmmaker?
[31/12/2014, 7:57:33 AM] Peter Coffin: I very much disagree with the stance that other cogs in the machine besides coders aren't devs
[31/12/2014, 7:58:08 AM] Peter Coffin: apologies for saying sound guy, that is what people tend to say despite it not being a gendered job
[31/12/2014, 7:58:31 AM] Remy: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[31/12/2014, 7:58:42 AM] Remy: I dunno but it's made me realize that I need to stop thinking I can make a game
[31/12/2014, 7:58:50 AM] Peter Coffin: why\
[31/12/2014, 7:58:58 AM] Remy: game dev and game design are two different things and I can't script or code or w/e to save my life
[31/12/2014, 7:59:05 AM] Remy: I couldn't even do Twine b/c the HTML freaked me out
[31/12/2014, 7:59:17 AM] Remy: On my own I will never be able to make a game, I'm just not smart enough w/computers
[31/12/2014, 7:59:31 AM] Peter Coffin: oh same here
[31/12/2014, 7:59:53 AM] Peter Coffin: I intend to put together a team eventually though. Don't know how, but I have lofty goals
[31/12/2014, 8:00:34 AM] live:riotarms: I've got a basic Mario Land engine running but I got most of that from youtube videos
[31/12/2014, 8:00:36 AM] Peter Coffin: TBH if I ever am able to make this trilogy of turn based rpgs I have in my head I don't know if anything will seem like there is a point in making
[31/12/2014, 8:00:53 AM] live:riotarms: No enemies, sprite art or interactive elements (or sound)
[31/12/2014, 8:01:54 AM] live:riotarms: Thinking I might do crude art and level motifs inspired by trio the punch
[31/12/2014, 8:04:10 AM] live:riotarms: Mario Land is a great design example because they changed the most complex elements of the NES game to suit
[31/12/2014, 8:04:29 AM] live:riotarms: So you get a power ball rather than the flower, and turtles explode
[31/12/2014, 8:04:42 AM] live:riotarms: It's so weird and grounded in ancient cultures
[31/12/2014, 8:22:28 AM] Tesseract: this dude is arguing with spacedad and I and he just keeps digging himself into deeper holes lol
[31/12/2014, 8:22:39 AM] drinternetphd: shit wrong window
[31/12/2014, 8:22:49 AM] drinternetphd: gg is digging into literally everywhere I've ever worked http://i.gyazo.com/934a1148960758dd0c1c52f1f69e8bae.png
[31/12/2014, 8:23:02 AM] Remy: but it's not about you, right?
[31/12/2014, 8:23:09 AM] drinternetphd: fucking psychos
[31/12/2014, 8:23:13 AM] Remy: That's what they say on all the t-shirts
[31/12/2014, 8:24:19 AM] live:riotarms: Say what you will about the UK's draconian bullshit but that wouldn't stand over here
[31/12/2014, 8:24:45 AM] drinternetphd: cool there's a thread about my lj from when I was 16/17 too
[31/12/2014, 8:24:45 AM] drinternetphd: https://8chan.co/gamergate/res/154362+50.html
[31/12/2014, 8:24:57 AM] live:riotarms: (Which is why it pays to tip off any GGers in the UK to the cops online)
[31/12/2014, 8:24:59 AM] Remy: Isn't that the one you just said you were able to delete?
[31/12/2014, 8:25:47 AM] drinternetphd: yeah
[31/12/2014, 8:25:49 AM] drinternetphd: too late tho
[31/12/2014, 8:25:53 AM] drinternetphd: fucking. psychos.
[31/12/2014, 8:25:55 AM] Remy: I wish they would know how this feels
[31/12/2014, 8:26:12 AM] Remy: To have hordes of strangers digging into their past
[31/12/2014, 8:28:45 AM] Remy: ugh, today sucks just as bad as yesterday. I'm done
[31/12/2014, 8:28:55 AM] Remy: And I still haven't scheduled an appt with the doc
[31/12/2014, 8:31:29 AM] drinternetphd: http://i.gyazo.com/f2b1b7c4beac6260d8803d69024aee86.png
[31/12/2014, 8:31:38 AM] drinternetphd: wish I still had contact with any of those people
[31/12/2014, 8:32:55 AM] live:riotarms: And this improves Kotaku how
[31/12/2014, 8:33:06 AM] live:riotarms: Dicks
[31/12/2014, 8:33:30 AM] drinternetphd: like they've now literally harassed every place I've worked at for more than a few months
[31/12/2014, 8:33:40 AM] drinternetphd: also this is yet another charity they're harassing
[31/12/2014, 8:34:06 AM] Remy: I wonder if we won't actually see them shut up until a group of businesses decides to sue them for damages
[31/12/2014, 8:34:09 AM] Remy: For all of the harassment
[31/12/2014, 8:34:23 AM] Remy: Like... if we literally have to get our nations highest class citizens, the corporations, involved
[31/12/2014, 8:34:33 AM] Remy: before the feds will get off their asses
[31/12/2014, 8:35:05 AM] drinternetphd: I am still talking to lawyers and looking for someone down to set precident. Had a good call with a promising one earlier today.
[31/12/2014, 8:36:49 AM] Remy: I'm glad to hear it
[31/12/2014, 8:37:02 AM] drinternetphd: the lawyer had something like this done to her too
[31/12/2014, 8:37:03 AM] drinternetphd: so
[31/12/2014, 8:37:18 AM] Remy: She'll be invested and motivated
[31/12/2014, 8:37:21 AM] Remy: Good.
[31/12/2014, 8:37:44 AM] Remy: I have trust issues with doctors and lawyers so I like to hear when they have a dog in the fight, so to speak
[31/12/2014, 8:37:51 AM] drinternetphd: same here to all of that
[31/12/2014, 8:38:05 AM] Remy: ^_^" I'm glad you understand I was afraid that would sound insensitive
[31/12/2014, 8:38:16 AM] drinternetphd: nah it makes total sense
[31/12/2014, 8:38:30 AM] Remy: And life tends to wear me down and make me cynical and utilitarian
[31/12/2014, 8:39:02 AM] live:riotarms: Any kind of union representation that could help?
[31/12/2014, 8:39:14 AM] Remy: Hmm... that's a good idea
[31/12/2014, 8:40:15 AM] Remy: Don't show business industries usually have remarkably tenacious unions?
[31/12/2014, 8:41:02 AM] Remy: Maybe Athena has some contacts who would be interested in joining an action to combat online stalking and abuse
[31/12/2014, 8:41:20 AM] live:riotarms: Union reps are good dudes to watch a back
[31/12/2014, 8:43:09 AM] Remy: And once the fight can coalesce into multiple complainants bringing forth a united case it would only be a matter of time before video game studios pour in their support by the thousands
[31/12/2014, 8:43:52 AM] drinternetphd: this is so CREEPY http://i.gyazo.com/620e9f70aad991c7ac1b17a256b29341.png
[31/12/2014, 8:45:52 AM] Athena Hollow: Sadly, offhand, I know nada. Porn industry has dick on that front and all the mainstream entertainment people I know are either 'starving artists' or work with SAG/AFTRA.
[31/12/2014, 8:46:08 AM] Remy: damn
[31/12/2014, 8:46:08 AM] Athena Hollow: And yeah, holy fucking shit. How does this not ring bells in their heads that say "NO NO NO TO FAR!"
[31/12/2014, 8:46:27 AM] Remy: Just goes to show how much of a clueless outsider I was that I just sort-of assumed y'all would be as wrapped up in unions as the rest of Hollywood
[31/12/2014, 8:46:43 AM] Athena Hollow: i wish.
[31/12/2014, 8:46:52 AM] Athena Hollow: the porn people in Hollywood might be
[31/12/2014, 8:46:56 AM] Athena Hollow: but outside that, nope :-/
[31/12/2014, 8:47:00 AM] Remy: What, do they keep the entire porn industry in a film-making ghetto or something?
[31/12/2014, 8:47:08 AM] Athena Hollow: more or less lol
[31/12/2014, 8:47:13 AM] Remy: Ugh
[31/12/2014, 8:47:16 AM] Remy: Of course
[31/12/2014, 8:47:21 AM] Athena Hollow: we're lepers. :-/
[31/12/2014, 8:47:27 AM] Remy: Because if it has sex it has to be dirty and therefore is indefensible
[31/12/2014, 8:47:46 AM] Remy: Okay I'm not gonna lie
[31/12/2014, 8:47:57 AM] Remy: When I become a media mogul I will not be centering my production companies in America
[31/12/2014, 8:48:13 AM] Remy: I'm building all of my studios in NZ
[31/12/2014, 8:48:14 AM] Athena Hollow: most of my friends film in canada for a reason LOL
[31/12/2014, 8:48:31 AM] Remy: And I suspect we will partner with Canada frequently
[31/12/2014, 8:48:50 AM] Remy: Call me a sucker but most Canadians just win me over in about five minutes of conversation. The rest are assholes.
[31/12/2014, 8:48:52 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 8:50:06 AM] drinternetphd: nothin like finding your dox in a search engine
[31/12/2014, 8:50:16 AM] Remy: ugh
[31/12/2014, 8:50:16 AM] Athena Hollow: -_-
[31/12/2014, 8:50:35 AM] Remy: They noticed the journals are deleted already?
[31/12/2014, 8:50:49 AM] Remy: They're actively looking at this shit?
[31/12/2014, 8:50:56 AM] drinternetphd: ys
[31/12/2014, 8:51:04 AM] drinternetphd: hence my skeeved-out ness
[31/12/2014, 8:51:05 AM] Remy: Well now we know they have literally nobody who cares about them during the holidays
[31/12/2014, 8:51:10 AM] Remy: I'm sorry Zoe
[31/12/2014, 8:51:55 AM] Remy: I've wrapped myself up in so many names and identities ever since I was a child that I can't imagine not just jettisoning that entire name and never looking back except to raise my finger
[31/12/2014, 8:52:25 AM] Remy: But then again I've lost an identity before and it still hurts, so it's dumb of me to pretendd it's that easy
[31/12/2014, 9:01:40 AM] Remy: Hey Zoe do you know if there's like a website people can use to check up on doctors before they choose them? Like... "This doctor is an asshole, don't go to them"
[31/12/2014, 9:06:56 AM] Remy: Oh great their offices are closed nevermind
[31/12/2014, 9:11:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): \sigh\ https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550095982524780545
[31/12/2014, 9:11:41 AM] Charloppe: wow gg will not stop being assholes today
[31/12/2014, 9:11:49 AM] Charloppe: one thing after another
[31/12/2014, 9:12:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah
[31/12/2014, 9:12:54 AM] Charloppe: what a shit day
[31/12/2014, 9:13:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): hugs
[31/12/2014, 9:13:17 AM] Charloppe: Charloppe hugs back
[31/12/2014, 9:13:19 AM] Rob: I love all of you <3
[31/12/2014, 9:13:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): <3
[31/12/2014, 9:13:30 AM] Charloppe: you doing any better rob?
[31/12/2014, 9:13:36 AM] Rob: oh fuck yeah
[31/12/2014, 9:13:38 AM] Rob: I feel so much better now
[31/12/2014, 9:13:50 AM] Charloppe: booze gives your sanity back
[31/12/2014, 9:14:10 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ha
[31/12/2014, 9:14:27 AM] Charloppe: I need booze
[31/12/2014, 9:14:50 AM] Rob: Booze + games + not being around super right wing ppl
[31/12/2014, 9:15:12 AM] Charloppe: to many transphobes and ggs today
[31/12/2014, 9:15:19 AM] Quinnae: hugs folks I return
[31/12/2014, 9:15:22 AM] Remy: I replace booze w/weed 'cause well... I relied on alcohol to deal with stress in the Army way too much so I quit when I got out.
[31/12/2014, 9:15:27 AM] Charloppe: Charloppe mole hugs
[31/12/2014, 9:15:35 AM] Remy: I also quit smoking tobacco cigarettes when I got out, too
[31/12/2014, 9:15:38 AM] Charloppe: weed would also be good
[31/12/2014, 9:16:08 AM] Remy: Also I just saw way too many other soldiers, like... relying on alcohol and then shooting themselves or someone else or doing something equally life-destroying
[31/12/2014, 9:16:19 AM] Charloppe: :(
[31/12/2014, 9:17:10 AM] Remy: I wanna throw a huge party with everyone though and have drinks and cookie cake and weed and video games and crazy music and for some reason stuffed animals and balloons
[31/12/2014, 9:17:31 AM] Remy: Although some of the stuffed animals should be those little fuzzy microbe and germ stuffed animals those are so cute
[31/12/2014, 9:18:07 AM] Charloppe: i would love to do that. Hanging around cool ppl is something I need more of.
[31/12/2014, 9:18:15 AM] Remy: Oh wow they have a giant ebola microbe now
[31/12/2014, 9:18:20 AM] drinternetphd: :|
[31/12/2014, 9:18:24 AM] Remy: http://www.giantmicrobes.com/?gclid=CILOu4CO78ICFYVafgodvoYAVg
[31/12/2014, 9:18:29 AM] drinternetphd: while googling my old account names I found a dox on me
[31/12/2014, 9:18:30 AM] drinternetphd: " 
=== SKYPES ===
 
drinternetphd
Zoe Quinn, Boston, Massachusetts, United States
Attached emails:
- [REDACTED]
- [REDACTED]
- [REDACTED]
- [REDACTED]
 
P.S. to Zoe: Attaching more emails doesn't actually make a Skype account easier to recover; just easier to compromise."
[31/12/2014, 9:18:51 AM] Remy: wtf
[31/12/2014, 9:19:18 AM] Charloppe: im to tired and angry to make a stupid ethics joke
[31/12/2014, 9:19:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :/
[31/12/2014, 9:19:50 AM] Charloppe: these ppl deserve crushing loneliness
[31/12/2014, 9:22:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): holy crap. just found that pastebin now. that is only a small part of a HUGE dox dump. wtf
[31/12/2014, 9:23:49 AM] Charloppe: zoe deserves much better then this. Inhuman monsters.
[31/12/2014, 9:25:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I guess we can report it and hope it gets taken down
[31/12/2014, 9:26:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): hop on over to Serious channel
[31/12/2014, 9:44:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): XD. GamerGate mentioned in a song made by the BBC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTU-7aLmhlo
[31/12/2014, 9:44:56 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): around the 36 second mark
[31/12/2014, 9:45:47 AM] Tesseract: hehehehe
[31/12/2014, 9:46:04 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Gamer bloody gating
[31/12/2014, 9:46:29 AM] Remy: lol
[31/12/2014, 9:46:33 AM] Remy: I posted that link Izzy
[31/12/2014, 9:46:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Cool
[31/12/2014, 9:46:42 AM] Remy: And instantly I got manually RTed by a Gater on my block list XD
[31/12/2014, 9:46:43 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Someone shared it on Ghazi
[31/12/2014, 9:46:48 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): haha
[31/12/2014, 9:47:55 AM] Remy: okay I'm gonna put some music on and do some dishes while the tears pile up in my mentions
[31/12/2014, 9:48:05 AM] Remy: tra-la-la-la
[31/12/2014, 9:48:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): haha. ok. have fun!
[31/12/2014, 9:49:37 AM] Quinnae: laughs I do love Charlie Brooker.
[31/12/2014, 9:49:56 AM] Remy: one of these days I need to ask Randi why her bots always fav my tweets randomly
[31/12/2014, 9:50:14 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): She coded them that way.
[31/12/2014, 9:50:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): They randomly favorite tweets of people they follow
[31/12/2014, 9:50:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): COLLUSION to boost your twitter stats
[31/12/2014, 9:50:59 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 9:51:16 AM] Charloppe: hmm sex for favors?
[31/12/2014, 9:51:45 AM] Charloppe: something something corruption
[31/12/2014, 9:51:57 AM] Remy: I don't wanna sound like a typical lizard-brain human but when they do come out with perfect sex robots y'all will never hear from me again
[31/12/2014, 9:52:25 AM] Charloppe: the feminists will steal all of your waifus
[31/12/2014, 9:52:29 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
[31/12/2014, 9:52:47 AM] Athena Hollow: And yeah... same...
[31/12/2014, 9:52:51 AM] Charloppe: corrupted me pretty quick
[31/12/2014, 9:53:01 AM] Athena Hollow: 3somes w/o dudes gettin weird afterward? sign me right the fuck up.
[31/12/2014, 9:53:07 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ha
[31/12/2014, 9:53:10 AM] Charloppe: insert joke about sjw hivemind
[31/12/2014, 9:53:36 AM] Remy: I have technically had a threesome without dudes getting weird about it at the end
[31/12/2014, 9:53:45 AM] Remy: But A) we were all dudes and B) None of us were in a long term relationship
[31/12/2014, 9:53:49 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
[31/12/2014, 9:53:56 AM] Athena Hollow: well amusingly it's never my husband that gets weird about it
[31/12/2014, 9:53:58 AM] Charloppe: i have yet to try a threesome
[31/12/2014, 9:54:00 AM] Athena Hollow: it's always the other guy.
[31/12/2014, 9:54:11 AM] Rob: DEVIL'S THREESOME
[31/12/2014, 9:54:13 AM] Remy: Like we were all casual friends at a party and the room was empty and we kinda realized we'd been flirting with each other all weekend
[31/12/2014, 9:54:22 AM] Athena Hollow: (when it happens that is. it doesn't always happen that dude gets weird)
[31/12/2014, 9:55:26 AM] Remy: Actually now that I think about it... I'd been flirting with each of them but never at the same time, so when they first met I thought I was going to be in big trouble. That's when I found out they already knew each other
[31/12/2014, 9:55:31 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 9:55:32 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): OMG. just found 2 hilarious comments from paranoid gaters about Google
[31/12/2014, 9:55:33 AM] Remy: And then sex happened
[31/12/2014, 9:55:34 AM] Rob: One of the bad things about being straight is it really limits your threesome options, I guess
[31/12/2014, 9:55:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): gonna tweet in a sec
[31/12/2014, 9:55:43 AM] Charloppe: wait whoa I gotta be a sex negative feminist
[31/12/2014, 9:55:43 AM] Athena Hollow: THE SEX grasps pearls
[31/12/2014, 9:55:48 AM] Remy: XD
[31/12/2014, 9:55:50 AM] Charloppe: how dare I crave sex
[31/12/2014, 9:56:08 AM] Athena Hollow: only sorta limits Rob haha. My husband is straight and i'm... 'try-anything-sexual'
[31/12/2014, 9:56:12 AM] Athena Hollow: sooooooooooo
[31/12/2014, 9:56:35 AM] Remy: I had to struggle past an insane amount of internalized homophobia
[31/12/2014, 9:56:38 AM] Remy: as a teenager
[31/12/2014, 9:56:40 AM] Rob: Well having another dude in the mix would kill my sexy time mood
[31/12/2014, 9:56:42 AM] Remy: And a child
[31/12/2014, 9:56:51 AM] Rob: I'd just be like 'eh'
[31/12/2014, 9:56:52 AM] Athena Hollow: Do you not watch porn with cock in it?
[31/12/2014, 9:56:54 AM] Remy: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Some people aren't into it Rob
[31/12/2014, 9:56:57 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
[31/12/2014, 9:56:59 AM] Rob: not usually tbh lol
[31/12/2014, 9:57:05 AM] Athena Hollow: Well then, never fucking mind! hahahahahahah
[31/12/2014, 9:57:07 AM] Athena Hollow: <3
[31/12/2014, 9:57:19 AM] Athena Hollow: I always loved bringing that up around super homophobic dudes.
[31/12/2014, 9:57:24 AM] Rob: :D
[31/12/2014, 9:57:29 AM] Charloppe: i do like girl cock
[31/12/2014, 9:57:30 AM] Athena Hollow: (not saying you're homophobic rob. that was a dumb way to say that)
[31/12/2014, 9:57:31 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 9:57:35 AM] Rob: I mean other guys just aren't attractive to me
[31/12/2014, 9:57:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AHAHAHAHA: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550108418724622337
[31/12/2014, 9:57:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AHAHAHA
[31/12/2014, 9:57:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AHA
[31/12/2014, 9:57:40 AM] Rob: yeah I don't have a problem w/ that, charlotte
[31/12/2014, 9:57:47 AM] Rob: but guys i'm just like - ick no thx
[31/12/2014, 9:57:49 AM] Rob: imma play scrabble
[31/12/2014, 9:57:53 AM] Charloppe: same lol
[31/12/2014, 9:58:41 AM] Charloppe: such sex negative this chat
[31/12/2014, 9:58:47 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 9:58:55 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I like boobies
[31/12/2014, 9:58:57 AM] Rob: :D
[31/12/2014, 9:59:00 AM] Athena Hollow: me too!
[31/12/2014, 9:59:05 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): haha
[31/12/2014, 9:59:09 AM] Charloppe: they make great pillows
[31/12/2014, 9:59:15 AM] Rob: I mean, it's just a preference thing for me
[31/12/2014, 9:59:20 AM] Rob: if other people like stuff, cool beans
[31/12/2014, 9:59:45 AM] Athena Hollow: They really do make great pillows. Mine would be like laying on a wooden floor though LOLOL
[31/12/2014, 10:00:10 AM] Charloppe: sarah has some nice boob pillows
[31/12/2014, 10:00:21 AM] Charloppe: they make me sleepy
[31/12/2014, 10:00:25 AM] Rob: boobs are cool
[31/12/2014, 10:00:25 AM] Athena Hollow: hehe
[31/12/2014, 10:00:27 AM] Rob: I'm a butt man, tho
[31/12/2014, 10:00:31 AM] Charloppe: YES
[31/12/2014, 10:00:33 AM] Athena Hollow: Yeah thank god my husband is too
[31/12/2014, 10:00:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[31/12/2014, 10:00:38 AM] Athena Hollow: because he'd have been SOL otherwise
[31/12/2014, 10:00:57 AM] live:riotarms: I like boobs but there's also a certain kind of flat chest that's hot as hell
[31/12/2014, 10:01:05 AM] Athena Hollow: Not that we don't appreciate a nice pair of boobs or anything, but definitely ass people over here.
[31/12/2014, 10:01:14 AM] Remy: oh y'all too?
[31/12/2014, 10:01:19 AM] Remy: butts are the best
[31/12/2014, 10:01:28 AM] Rob: ASS! HIGH FIVES EVERYONE
[31/12/2014, 10:01:28 AM] Athena Hollow: I fortunately never have to worry about gravity taking over the boob department, so that's good.
[31/12/2014, 10:01:31 AM] Charloppe: butts are fun :3
[31/12/2014, 10:01:31 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahahah
[31/12/2014, 10:01:43 AM] Rob: LOL god I am so drunk
[31/12/2014, 10:01:47 AM] Rob: i rarely talk about this stuff haha
[31/12/2014, 10:01:48 AM] Athena Hollow: <3
[31/12/2014, 10:01:56 AM] Charloppe: wow rob so sex negative
[31/12/2014, 10:01:59 AM] Athena Hollow: I think we all also tend to bring it out in each other hahahahaha
[31/12/2014, 10:02:03 AM] Rob: nah I'm kind of a prude when it comes to me
[31/12/2014, 10:02:10 AM] Rob: Like I don't mind other people talking about stuff
[31/12/2014, 10:02:23 AM] Rob: but I'm all puritan when it comes to me, haha
[31/12/2014, 10:02:45 AM] drinternetphd: I'm just negative about everything does that count
[31/12/2014, 10:02:58 AM] Charloppe: hmmm sarah butts...it all mkaes sense now
[31/12/2014, 10:03:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[31/12/2014, 10:03:11 AM] Athena Hollow: hahaha
[31/12/2014, 10:03:33 AM] Rob: OMG IT DOES MAKE SENSE NOW
[31/12/2014, 10:03:35 AM] Charloppe: i sense a conspiracy
[31/12/2014, 10:03:40 AM] Rob: IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU FIND OUT THAT VALEN IS SINCLAIR
[31/12/2014, 10:03:49 AM] Remy: I usually try to keep my problems to myself lol ^_^" I've opened up a lot more than usual in here with you folks
[31/12/2014, 10:04:07 AM] Charloppe: Same :)
[31/12/2014, 10:04:38 AM] Rob: Rob boops everyone noses.
[31/12/2014, 10:05:22 AM] Remy: Let me know when Sarah sees my new Twitter avatar
[31/12/2014, 10:05:24 AM] Remy: lol
[31/12/2014, 10:05:44 AM] Charloppe: Ill let her know :D
[31/12/2014, 10:05:47 AM] Quinnae: Hey all, I'm back. What's up? :)
[31/12/2014, 10:05:52 AM] Rob: KATHERINE!!!!
[31/12/2014, 10:05:53 AM] Charloppe: talking bout butts
[31/12/2014, 10:05:57 AM] Rob: I'm drunk and gonna play anachronox
[31/12/2014, 10:05:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Literally
[31/12/2014, 10:06:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Butts
[31/12/2014, 10:06:01 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 10:06:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): and boobies
[31/12/2014, 10:06:03 AM] drinternetphd: jesus this thread goes straight to 11
[31/12/2014, 10:06:04 AM] drinternetphd: http://i.gyazo.com/ab459e77f8ce2cfc3302214b7c61c617.png
[31/12/2014, 10:06:05 AM] Charloppe: and boobs
[31/12/2014, 10:06:13 AM] live:riotarms: Night everyone
[31/12/2014, 10:06:18 AM] Charloppe: byyyye
[31/12/2014, 10:06:23 AM] Rob: Night!
[31/12/2014, 10:06:27 AM] Athena Hollow: holy fucking shit
[31/12/2014, 10:06:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Zoe, holy shit
[31/12/2014, 10:06:40 AM] Rob: It's not loading for me
[31/12/2014, 10:06:42 AM] Athena Hollow: 8chan needs nuked from fucking orbit
[31/12/2014, 10:06:43 AM] Remy: I can't load it but I'll assume it's crazy
[31/12/2014, 10:06:55 AM] Rob: HOLY SHIT it just loaded
[31/12/2014, 10:06:58 AM] Athena Hollow: it's about ethics in revenge rape. :-/
[31/12/2014, 10:07:24 AM] Remy: Now might be a good time to mention that at a the end of season 2 Dr. Q finally destroys the H8CHAIN forever by defeating Adam Baldwin in a duel and summoning the Nidhogg
[31/12/2014, 10:07:24 AM] Charloppe: Insert shitty ethics joke
[31/12/2014, 10:07:42 AM] Charloppe: Shut up and take my money
[31/12/2014, 10:07:46 AM] Remy: XD
[31/12/2014, 10:07:51 AM] Remy: Your character is a mole
[31/12/2014, 10:07:57 AM] Remy: And Sarah is a sleuth reporter
[31/12/2014, 10:08:07 AM] Remy: investigative journalist
[31/12/2014, 10:08:12 AM] Charloppe: The best of the best
[31/12/2014, 10:08:13 AM] Remy: Who can morph into different animals
[31/12/2014, 10:08:24 AM] Athena Hollow: i swear my cat Cake is psychic. Everytime I've read completely horrible shit said by people today, she's come wandering in and jumped up in my lap purring.
[31/12/2014, 10:08:33 AM] Quinnae: Gods, Zoe, I'm sorry.
[31/12/2014, 10:08:42 AM] Quinnae: sighs and flops
[31/12/2014, 10:08:54 AM] Charloppe: i dont think my christmas wish came true
[31/12/2014, 10:08:58 AM] Quinnae: Well, Stephen... if it helps your artistic direction, draw me as a Valkyrie.
[31/12/2014, 10:09:05 AM] Charloppe: asked for gg to stop being shitty
[31/12/2014, 10:09:09 AM] Remy: Jesus, Zoe
[31/12/2014, 10:09:16 AM] Remy: That's terrible.
[31/12/2014, 10:09:42 AM] Remy: Actually, Katherine, I'm very glad to have your input on your character. Valkyrie sounds like a glorious direction for her
[31/12/2014, 10:09:48 AM] Tesseract: is randi here or does she have a thing that alerts her when I say her name
[31/12/2014, 10:10:04 AM] Remy: Although these are just inspirational characters, I don't want anyone to think it will turn into personal life fan fictions and stalker comics
[31/12/2014, 10:10:11 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 10:10:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Randi, Randi, Randi
[31/12/2014, 10:10:48 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[31/12/2014, 10:11:00 AM] drinternetphd: I tried a new thing
[31/12/2014, 10:11:06 AM] drinternetphd: reported the pastebins and archive.todays for abuse
[31/12/2014, 10:11:18 AM] Athena Hollow: me too
[31/12/2014, 10:11:21 AM] Remy: same
[31/12/2014, 10:11:34 AM] Remy: Izzy prepped a link that auto-filled the links
[31/12/2014, 10:11:35 AM] Tesseract: I just reported one pastebin, where were the other ones
[31/12/2014, 10:11:50 AM] Remy: ^ I will also report any others that are posted here
[31/12/2014, 10:11:53 AM] drinternetphd: http://pastebin.com/sjV15Qg5
[31/12/2014, 10:11:59 AM] drinternetphd: http://pastebin.com/xPqpuizp
[31/12/2014, 10:12:31 AM] drinternetphd: or really just http://pastebin.com/search?cx=013305635491195529773%3A0ufpuq-fpt0&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=zoe+quinn&sa.x=0&sa.y=0&sa=Search
[31/12/2014, 10:12:38 AM] Remy: Oh wow that will do it
[31/12/2014, 10:13:12 AM] Tesseract: http://pastebin.com/rFX1pTfX omg
[31/12/2014, 10:14:10 AM] Tesseract: can we get a huge list of shit to report
[31/12/2014, 10:14:22 AM] Tesseract: and for what
[31/12/2014, 10:14:50 AM] Tesseract: also move to seriouschat
[31/12/2014, 10:20:43 AM] Tesseract: .
[31/12/2014, 10:25:47 AM] Remy: So hey Zoe I found out that I stink at Nidhogg
[31/12/2014, 10:25:55 AM] Remy: I mean it's fun as balls but I suck at it
[31/12/2014, 10:26:05 AM] drinternetphd: grow stronger
[31/12/2014, 10:26:26 AM] Remy: It was never my style of game, Zoe. Even old-school fighting games like street fighter I was always a button masher at heart
[31/12/2014, 10:26:33 AM] Remy: No reflexes, I freak out
[31/12/2014, 10:26:36 AM] Remy: I'm a planner
[31/12/2014, 10:27:06 AM] Remy: turn-based <3
[31/12/2014, 10:31:44 AM] Tesseract: where's dan's updated board list
[31/12/2014, 10:35:51 AM] drinternetphd: "But apparently fucking 100 guys in 2 years is totally better than a relationship built on trust.

I know you're reading this Liftshit, she's getting gangbanged while you're "defending her honor" you fucking privileged trustfund baby."
[31/12/2014, 10:35:58 AM] drinternetphd: whee
[31/12/2014, 10:36:14 AM] Remy: :(
[31/12/2014, 10:36:24 AM] Remy: They're sociopaths, Zoe, I'm so sorry
[31/12/2014, 10:36:35 AM] Remy: They're so utterly detached that they've become dangerous
[31/12/2014, 10:36:43 AM] Remy: detached and malicious and dangerous
[31/12/2014, 10:36:44 AM] Athena Hollow: blar
[31/12/2014, 10:37:27 AM] drinternetphd: what is even wrong with getting gangbanged if that's your thing
[31/12/2014, 10:37:34 AM] drinternetphd: also who obsesses over a 17 year old's blog jfc
[31/12/2014, 10:38:03 AM] Athena Hollow: but WE'RE the sex negative ones, remember??
[31/12/2014, 10:38:05 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh.
[31/12/2014, 10:38:17 AM] Athena Hollow: and yeah, I just went and deleted mine when you mentioned yours for the same reason
[31/12/2014, 10:38:31 AM] Athena Hollow: most of it was random shit from before porn, some was after... either way, don't need it.
[31/12/2014, 10:39:51 AM] Remy: A lot of my past has been tied up after seeing what they have been doing
[31/12/2014, 10:39:57 AM] Remy: But I don't wanna get cocky
[31/12/2014, 10:40:10 AM] Remy: There are ends I wish I could remember the passwords to so I could tie them up
[31/12/2014, 10:41:47 AM] Remy: Oh wow I almost typed in here what I was going to text to my husband
[31/12/2014, 10:42:07 AM] Remy: Which luckily would not have been super dirty but I would have accidentally professed my love to an awful lot of people and promised to do an awful lot of dishes
[31/12/2014, 10:42:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): it's okay, Stephen. We love you too
[31/12/2014, 10:42:32 AM] Remy: <3
[31/12/2014, 10:42:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Heh
[31/12/2014, 10:42:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :P
[31/12/2014, 10:43:49 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 10:48:39 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Tolvo made another storify documenting GG's harassment toward Veerender. https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550121163733880835
[31/12/2014, 10:48:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :/
[31/12/2014, 10:50:14 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: holy shit charloppe got RT'd 1.2k times
[31/12/2014, 10:50:20 AM] Athena Hollow: yup
[31/12/2014, 10:50:27 AM] Athena Hollow: was a damn good tweet lol
[31/12/2014, 10:50:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Wait. Which tweet?
[31/12/2014, 10:51:00 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/549941396095119360
[31/12/2014, 10:51:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah. that's a great tweet
[31/12/2014, 10:51:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Rob is drunk: https://twitter.com/UnseenPerfidy/status/550117977274990592
[31/12/2014, 10:51:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): XD
[31/12/2014, 10:52:21 AM] Charloppe: sarah i missed your butt
[31/12/2014, 10:52:31 AM] Quinnae: Charlotte kicked butt.
[31/12/2014, 10:52:36 AM] Charloppe: the ggs dogpiled
[31/12/2014, 10:52:47 AM] Charloppe: and i was all like Im a mole
[31/12/2014, 10:52:53 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 10:56:09 AM] Charloppe: katherine cross fav one of my tweets. teehee
[31/12/2014, 10:56:20 AM] Charloppe: sjw hivemind!
[31/12/2014, 10:56:33 AM] Athena Hollow: lolol
[31/12/2014, 10:56:37 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/550123280087396352 how can they be this dumb
[31/12/2014, 10:56:48 AM] Athena Hollow: drugs?
[31/12/2014, 10:56:49 AM] Dan Olson: Everyone likes big sexy butts!
[31/12/2014, 10:56:56 AM] Athena Hollow: hahha
[31/12/2014, 10:56:58 AM] Dan Olson: Also Dan got his 32 gigs of RAM installed
[31/12/2014, 10:56:59 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: dan are you drunk too
[31/12/2014, 10:57:04 AM] Athena Hollow: XD
[31/12/2014, 10:57:13 AM] Athena Hollow: no no we were having a convo about butts earlier XD
[31/12/2014, 10:57:18 AM] Charloppe: ooooh they dog onepiled me for that
[31/12/2014, 10:57:22 AM] Athena Hollow: and boob pillows. and 3somes. and robot sex machines.
[31/12/2014, 10:57:24 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: everyone likes big sexy butts. except the ones on 8chan ;-;;
[31/12/2014, 10:57:31 AM] Dan Olson: 32 gig spells "F U C K Y O U A D O B E A F T E R E F F E C T S"
[31/12/2014, 10:57:53 AM] Charloppe: ac unity was glitchy
[31/12/2014, 10:57:53 AM] Athena Hollow: ughhhhhh after effects + premiere = the bane to my existence
[31/12/2014, 10:57:58 AM] Charloppe: gamers have it tough
[31/12/2014, 10:58:03 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: is it bad i run with 16 and even just mostly from browser tabs i can run out of memory since i have swap off x-x
[31/12/2014, 10:58:21 AM] Athena Hollow: Athena Hollow sighs at her pitiful 4
[31/12/2014, 10:58:25 AM] Dan Olson: I love them, but FML trying to Dynamic Link an AE file while it's open
[31/12/2014, 10:58:39 AM] Dan Olson: oh, that's me, 100%
[31/12/2014, 10:58:52 AM] Dan Olson: I'll be all "I probably have too many tabs open"
[31/12/2014, 10:58:58 AM] Dan Olson: and people will challenge me on it
[31/12/2014, 10:59:01 AM] Athena Hollow: i cannot wait til i can finally upgrade my computer in a couple months.
[31/12/2014, 10:59:08 AM] Dan Olson: "lol, I bet I have more open than you! Tee hee!"
[31/12/2014, 10:59:11 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[31/12/2014, 10:59:27 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: tabs are my "i might read this later" and "later" turns into "two weeks from now" x-x
[31/12/2014, 10:59:38 AM] Dan Olson: and I'm all "No, mother@$%#er, you definitely do not."
[31/12/2014, 10:59:56 AM] Athena Hollow: i have bookmark folders I have to sort through once a week because of that lol
[31/12/2014, 11:00:06 AM] Dan Olson: "oh, well, I've got almost 20 tabs open ;-)"
[31/12/2014, 11:00:08 AM] drinternetphd: lmao
[31/12/2014, 11:00:12 AM] drinternetphd: ">Guitar Center said come back when you're 18. After they said they'd hire me. Fucking assholes. A flat-out "no" would've been a lot less heartbreaking.

wait she was doing underage suicide girls style modeling?"
[31/12/2014, 11:00:16 AM] Dan Olson: "I'VE GOT 75!"
[31/12/2014, 11:00:23 AM] drinternetphd: this guy seriously thinks guitar center is like suicidegirls
[31/12/2014, 11:00:24 AM] Charloppe: i got a rock
[31/12/2014, 11:00:27 AM] Athena Hollow: LMFAO
[31/12/2014, 11:00:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ...
[31/12/2014, 11:00:31 AM] Athena Hollow: how fucking dumb
[31/12/2014, 11:00:33 AM] nicholas.boterf: Jesus the harassment of Veerender has been worse than I’ve seen. Fuck everything.
[31/12/2014, 11:00:43 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: what're they going after him for now?
[31/12/2014, 11:00:55 AM] Charloppe: cause they are horrible ppl
[31/12/2014, 11:00:55 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): They haven't stopped
[31/12/2014, 11:01:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): since weeks ago
[31/12/2014, 11:01:03 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): from my understanding
[31/12/2014, 11:01:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): MundaneMatt sending his followers after Veerender didn't help
[31/12/2014, 11:02:17 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i didn't see MM do that. was it a video or tweets?
[31/12/2014, 11:02:22 AM] Remy: ohey Sarah
[31/12/2014, 11:02:30 AM] Remy: Do you like my new Twitter Avatar or does it bother you?
[31/12/2014, 11:02:41 AM] Athena Hollow: tweets.
[31/12/2014, 11:02:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarah, MundaneMatt screenshotted Veerender saying "video games are garbage" and sent his followers to dogpile
[31/12/2014, 11:03:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarcasm is too complex for them to understand
[31/12/2014, 11:03:23 AM] Athena Hollow: Even the KiA mods labeled it as "THIS IS SARCASM"
[31/12/2014, 11:03:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah
[31/12/2014, 11:03:28 AM] Athena Hollow: that's how fucking dumb it is.
[31/12/2014, 11:03:52 AM] Lars Flyger (Zennistrad): People are still saying that Dan Olsen will be prosecuted for his 8chan article.
[31/12/2014, 11:04:02 AM] Athena Hollow: they're dumb.
[31/12/2014, 11:04:07 AM] Athena Hollow: Another gger jumps ship: https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2qvd2f/i_was_wrong_about_gamerghazi_and_gamergate_not/
[31/12/2014, 11:04:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Lars, GGer's are dumb. You can throw this link their way when they say what Dan did was illegal: http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-80.html#docCont
[31/12/2014, 11:04:56 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): (section 6)
[31/12/2014, 11:07:52 AM] Rob: GGers are losers who have been hit by touch of idiocy repeatedly b/c they failed all their saving throws
[31/12/2014, 11:08:22 AM] Rob: also they probably smell like cat food
[31/12/2014, 11:08:25 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 11:09:21 AM] Charloppe: i hit them in the head with a plunger. back to the sewer wence they came
[31/12/2014, 11:09:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): No GGers have tried to engage me today even though I've been using the hashtag in my tweets.
[31/12/2014, 11:09:33 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :(
[31/12/2014, 11:09:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[31/12/2014, 11:10:10 AM] Remy: one of them manually RTed me
[31/12/2014, 11:10:14 AM] Remy: with that YT song
[31/12/2014, 11:10:16 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 11:10:35 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/550126776111099909
[31/12/2014, 11:13:12 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/Rasputin_RGLM/status/550118622912192512 someone guy from GG claiming they know what i look like
[31/12/2014, 11:13:41 AM] Athena Hollow: ...
[31/12/2014, 11:13:48 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): "Buttsy". That's Jordan Owen
[31/12/2014, 11:13:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): has to be
[31/12/2014, 11:13:50 AM] Athena Hollow: haven't they consistently gotten that wrong? lol
[31/12/2014, 11:13:53 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/Rasputin_RGLM/status/550119503799930880
[31/12/2014, 11:13:55 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: they have
[31/12/2014, 11:13:59 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: no idea if they're right this time tho
[31/12/2014, 11:14:00 AM] Remy: They're always wrong
[31/12/2014, 11:14:18 AM] Remy: I thought you kept your accounts clean of personally identifiable info
[31/12/2014, 11:14:30 AM] Remy: How could they possibly ever get PID?
[31/12/2014, 11:14:48 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: depending on how dedicated they were it's in theory POSSIBLE just really really hard
[31/12/2014, 11:15:03 AM] Charloppe: ONE EXAMPLE sarah
[31/12/2014, 11:15:09 AM] Charloppe: give me one
[31/12/2014, 11:15:11 AM] Tesseract: nah he's just a huge idiot who doxxed the wrong person
[31/12/2014, 11:15:24 AM] Remy: Well my account is temporarily a tribute account to you so maybe that will throw them off the trail
[31/12/2014, 11:15:30 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
[31/12/2014, 11:16:07 AM] Rob: I'm gonna bed <333333333333333333333333333333
[31/12/2014, 11:16:10 AM] Tesseract: http://topsy.com/analytics?q1=%23gamergate&via=Topsy hehehehehehe
[31/12/2014, 11:16:12 AM] Charloppe: nini rob
[31/12/2014, 11:16:14 AM] Athena Hollow: <3 night rob
[31/12/2014, 11:16:52 AM] Athena Hollow: Looks like he think's you're an SA goon lol
[31/12/2014, 11:17:07 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/Rasputin_RGLM/status/550119778849787905
[31/12/2014, 11:18:15 AM] Charloppe: the fuck did I read
[31/12/2014, 11:18:27 AM] Athena Hollow: nonsense from a dummy
[31/12/2014, 11:18:42 AM] Charloppe: sarah butts is mine
[31/12/2014, 11:18:56 AM] Charloppe: and others who are cool
[31/12/2014, 11:20:38 AM] Remy: They always think we're an "SA Goon"
[31/12/2014, 11:20:53 AM] Tesseract: they're really obsessed with the goon thing lately
[31/12/2014, 11:20:54 AM] Remy: Which makes me feel left out :( the only time I ever heard of Something Awful was in middle school
[31/12/2014, 11:21:26 AM] Athena Hollow: They're trying really hard to pin all the bad shit on SA to wash their hands of it
[31/12/2014, 11:21:28 AM] Remy: For lunch I would always hide away in the theatre room and fuck around on the internet but sometimes the Edgy Teens would go in there and go look at gory pictures of people getting killed
[31/12/2014, 11:21:51 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Tess, without RT's, even bigger decline: http://topsy.com/analytics?q1=%23gamergate%20-RT&via=Topsy
[31/12/2014, 11:21:54 AM] Remy: And I was like fuck that noise I'mma go hand out under the stairwell with the other lonely teens
[31/12/2014, 11:22:02 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: hi all
[31/12/2014, 11:22:05 AM] Remy: Or go to the Magic: The Gathering table
[31/12/2014, 11:23:32 AM] Tesseract: yesss get owned gamergate
[31/12/2014, 11:23:37 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I've kinda been skimming around, anything important going on today?
[31/12/2014, 11:24:01 AM] Tesseract: we're searching pastebin and archive.today in an attempt to scrub the internet of gg's filth
[31/12/2014, 11:24:21 AM] Tesseract: I want a response from either of them before I mass report shit to ensure I'm not wasting my time though
[31/12/2014, 11:24:23 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: asking them to take things down?
[31/12/2014, 11:24:25 AM] Tesseract: yes
[31/12/2014, 11:24:35 AM] Tesseract: someone give me an incriminating archive.today to report
[31/12/2014, 11:25:12 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: all the ones I have bookmarked are ones I was using as examples
[31/12/2014, 11:27:53 AM] Athena Hollow: posted one in serious
[31/12/2014, 11:30:11 AM] Remy: Does anyone know how to enable 2FA for one's Amazon account?
[31/12/2014, 11:30:22 AM] Remy: That shit has my relatives in from when I ship them gifts
[31/12/2014, 11:31:01 AM] Tesseract: why is "government criticism" a report option
[31/12/2014, 11:31:12 AM] Athena Hollow: O___________o
[31/12/2014, 11:31:15 AM] Athena Hollow: that's...odd
[31/12/2014, 11:31:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Stephen, I know we do for Amazon Web Services. let me check for Amazon.com
[31/12/2014, 11:31:44 AM] Remy: Yeah AWS is listed on the 2factor .org website
[31/12/2014, 11:31:49 AM] Remy: But not regular Amazon
[31/12/2014, 11:32:13 AM] Remy: Oh well I have to go G'night I'm gonna go quiet while I hang out with my husband and do homework and shit
[31/12/2014, 11:32:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ok. goodnight!
[31/12/2014, 11:33:01 AM] Athena Hollow: <3 night Stephen.
[31/12/2014, 11:33:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Wow, looks like Amazon.com doesn't have 2FA yet. Come on retail, get with it. lol
[31/12/2014, 11:33:17 AM] Athena Hollow: yeah no shit, since my cc info is fucking saved there. ugh.
[31/12/2014, 11:33:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I'll ask around tomorrow when I'm at work.
[31/12/2014, 11:36:54 AM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/550132971240292352?s=09
[31/12/2014, 11:37:14 AM] Peter Coffin: they are just so stupidly transparent
[31/12/2014, 11:37:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[31/12/2014, 11:37:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wow
[31/12/2014, 11:37:33 AM] Peter Coffin: they were posting on my videos saying "you used to be funny"
[31/12/2014, 11:37:47 AM] Peter Coffin: now they go back and say "you used to be much better"
[31/12/2014, 11:38:02 AM] Peter Coffin: this is literally a non-comedy video about the friendzone FROM A FEMINIST PERSPECTIVE
[31/12/2014, 11:39:11 AM] Peter Coffin: like it used to be current videos, now they go back and act like they liked them from before
[31/12/2014, 11:40:31 AM] Peter Coffin: except the problem is they are doing it now, and were not subscrbed from me
[31/12/2014, 11:40:49 AM] Peter Coffin: and in most cases arent
[31/12/2014, 11:41:54 AM] Peter Coffin: still
[31/12/2014, 11:42:06 AM] Peter Coffin: I just don't get why it matters enough to even bother with
[31/12/2014, 11:42:25 AM] SF: That's great you got that station to fix the story Stephen.
[31/12/2014, 11:42:37 AM] SF: (Anything else of note since earlier?)
[31/12/2014, 11:42:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): We're dealing with people who spend their whole day on the Internet, harassing and bothering people.
[31/12/2014, 11:42:56 AM] SF: Seems like people are trying to enact street justice against her parents. I'm worried innocents will be harmed
[31/12/2014, 11:45:57 AM] Peter Coffin: this should be fun https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/550135405245255680?s=09
[31/12/2014, 11:47:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh boy. That's a good tweet. Looking forward to their replies
[31/12/2014, 11:48:41 AM] Tesseract: how is mcinjosh still tweeting
[31/12/2014, 11:48:43 AM] SF: No why did my father semicolon nine smiley
[31/12/2014, 11:48:46 AM] SF: Do not write that thing dad
[31/12/2014, 11:50:13 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: ever try reporting someone for impersonation to twitter?
[31/12/2014, 11:50:31 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: It's like applying for a bank loan.
[31/12/2014, 11:50:33 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Only lets you report if you are the one they are impersonating
[31/12/2014, 11:50:58 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i used to report it under harassment
[31/12/2014, 11:51:02 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: and explain in the text
[31/12/2014, 11:51:05 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: but that doesn't work now
[31/12/2014, 11:51:23 AM] Tesseract: it worked for me just like an hour ago
[31/12/2014, 11:52:00 AM] Tesseract: Harassment>I am>Harassing Me
[31/12/2014, 11:52:06 AM] Tesseract: should work
[31/12/2014, 11:52:29 AM] Tesseract: unless you're still getting the box and they just aren't suspending anyone anymore
[31/12/2014, 12:27:29 PM] SF: Got that, thanks.
[31/12/2014, 12:28:13 PM] SF: https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/550145164166320129 If anyone else pulls the "gamers have it hard too" BS during discussions of trans suicide just link them that.
[31/12/2014, 12:29:07 PM] Athena Hollow: hahah
[31/12/2014, 12:35:05 PM] Athena Hollow: lol my husband is an asshole. He posts this: https://twitter.com/jthm0138/status/550147434907992064

And I say "look at you being all sweet and philosophical" 

and then posted this: https://twitter.com/jthm0138/status/550147968796749824
[31/12/2014, 12:37:45 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: hah, jthm
[31/12/2014, 12:38:06 PM] Athena Hollow: he's not sweet, he's 'dark and brooding' hhahahaha
[31/12/2014, 12:42:51 PM] Remy: wtf my Alakazam is missing
[31/12/2014, 12:43:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Yeah, sorry about that. We got into a fight and, you know, first thing round 1...
[31/12/2014, 12:43:39 PM] Remy: It's not in my PC or in my battle box and I never would have traded or released her
[31/12/2014, 12:43:50 PM] Remy: She's my Cleverness champion at the pokemon contest
[31/12/2014, 12:44:23 PM] Remy: I may need to start over x-x
[31/12/2014, 12:44:27 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Off saying hi to that one ditto everyone sets up?
[31/12/2014, 12:51:12 PM] David Gallant: One of the TechRaptor folks is defending another TechRaptor writer, Georgina, who posted links in KiA to a bunch of FemFreq's business registration & charity registration documents.
[31/12/2014, 12:51:26 PM] David Gallant: And I'm just so tempted to say "she's not going to sleep with you."
[31/12/2014, 12:51:30 PM] Athena Hollow: LMAO
[31/12/2014, 12:51:34 PM] Tesseract: hahaha
[31/12/2014, 12:51:39 PM] Athena Hollow: "FUCKIN WHITE KNIGHT"
[31/12/2014, 12:51:41 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahha
[31/12/2014, 12:51:43 PM] Tesseract: BETA MANGINA
[31/12/2014, 12:51:46 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahahahahah
[31/12/2014, 12:52:45 PM] David Gallant: Of course I'm locked, and he won't even see it...
[31/12/2014, 12:52:47 PM] David Gallant: David Gallant shurgs
[31/12/2014, 12:56:04 PM] David Gallant: TechRaptor employs some FUCKING IDIOTS HOLY SHIT
[31/12/2014, 12:56:08 PM] SF: Link me I'll say it.
[31/12/2014, 12:56:19 PM] SF: I'm pretty much the alpha bitch of the universe.
[31/12/2014, 12:57:32 PM] Tesseract: authors don't need to be your audience. authors are dead
[31/12/2014, 12:59:48 PM] Peter Coffin: I hate stuff clearly created for creators
[31/12/2014, 1:10:29 PM] Quinnae: What's up at TechRaptor?
[31/12/2014, 1:10:36 PM] Quinnae: Are they being fools again?
[31/12/2014, 1:10:57 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): again? they haven't stopped
[31/12/2014, 1:12:25 PM] Tesseract: they're the biggest idiots
[31/12/2014, 1:15:43 PM] Quinnae: Well, they're really the Washington Post of the gaming world.
[31/12/2014, 1:18:30 PM] David Gallant: https://twitter.com/sschinke/status/550157986518564865
[31/12/2014, 1:18:48 PM] David Gallant: I've got the fucker muted now but Jesus Christ.
[31/12/2014, 1:19:06 PM] David Gallant: They're arguing about this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2nzd5k/feminist_frequency_is_a_registered_charity/
[31/12/2014, 1:19:09 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ugh. GG are the worst: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550159129956732928
[31/12/2014, 1:20:05 PM] David Gallant: Isn't that the very opportunism they accuse Brianna of when her dog was dying?
[31/12/2014, 1:20:12 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yes
[31/12/2014, 1:20:53 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Also, sidenote, I learned you can have multiple selections in firefox by using the Ctrl key
[31/12/2014, 1:21:56 PM] Tesseract: whoa
[31/12/2014, 1:21:59 PM] Tesseract: this changes everything
[31/12/2014, 1:25:51 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's a bit tricky, because one misclick and you have to start over. but helps when screenshotting, so you don't have to draw boxes using something else :3
[31/12/2014, 1:27:02 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): WOW. This GGer is so dense.
[31/12/2014, 1:27:02 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/Linksaver_/status/550159704681611264
[31/12/2014, 1:27:14 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): TIL donating money absolves you of being a horrible person
[31/12/2014, 1:27:56 PM] David Gallant: What is GG trying to do?
[31/12/2014, 1:28:20 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Trying to donate to a charity that helps trans people to absolve them of being transphobic pieces of shits
[31/12/2014, 1:28:43 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Or some are planning it, like in my screenshot
[31/12/2014, 1:29:07 PM] David Gallant: Huh
[31/12/2014, 1:33:33 PM] Tesseract: http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/888202-gamergate looooool
[31/12/2014, 1:34:05 PM] Athena Hollow: LMAO
[31/12/2014, 1:34:18 PM] Athena Hollow: Obviously we're up against top minds, here.
[31/12/2014, 1:34:56 PM] Athena Hollow: "I don’t really get These Anti GG’s anymore…
For all the interconnections and figure heads, they sure are unorganized."
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
[31/12/2014, 1:37:43 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
[31/12/2014, 1:37:57 PM] Quinnae: Hah.
[31/12/2014, 1:38:16 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): IDK, maybe because, uh, we're not an organized movement?
[31/12/2014, 1:38:18 PM] Athena Hollow: They still really think it's an overly organized effort and not just a bunch of random people that coalesced because of how fucking shitty they are.
[31/12/2014, 1:38:23 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah
[31/12/2014, 1:38:34 PM] Quinnae: Speaking of GG shittiness...
[31/12/2014, 1:38:39 PM] Athena Hollow: The most 'organized' we get is "Report this asshole" lol
[31/12/2014, 1:38:57 PM] Quinnae: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Ke6pasTCkdIJ:https://8chan.co/gamergate/res/113196.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
[31/12/2014, 1:39:00 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): well, there's us in here, but it's hardly a giant conspiracy
[31/12/2014, 1:39:08 PM] Athena Hollow: yep.
[31/12/2014, 1:39:28 PM] Quinnae: "Specifically regarding katherine cross, she is directly tied to digra ofc as a chairwomen of it, and her other connections are fascinating."

I really have to laugh. :P I present one paper and suddenly I'm a "chairwomen"?
[31/12/2014, 1:39:47 PM] Athena Hollow: I mean, if they try to claim 26 people managed to bring down "THOUSANDS!!11!" of ggers, I wouldn't be surprised but really, it says more about their shitty organization skills than our overt ones LOL
[31/12/2014, 1:39:52 PM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHHAHAHAHAH
[31/12/2014, 1:39:54 PM] Athena Hollow: nice!
[31/12/2014, 1:40:00 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah.
[31/12/2014, 1:40:00 PM] Athena Hollow: Ranking up there, Kath. hahahahah
[31/12/2014, 1:40:04 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): BALLER
[31/12/2014, 1:40:16 PM] Quinnae: They're apparently doing some kind of conspiracy op around DiGRA which is a bit worrying.
[31/12/2014, 1:40:26 PM] Athena Hollow: they've been doing that for months
[31/12/2014, 1:40:31 PM] Athena Hollow: it's gotten... well, nowhere lol
[31/12/2014, 1:40:43 PM] Quinnae: A source copypasted this from one of the GG chat rooms:
[31/12/2014, 1:40:44 PM] Quinnae: 17:19 < maksev> okay so some news
17:20 < maksev> part 2 of UBM dig will release today
17:20 < maksev> Part 3 was gonna be just katherine cross but there will be some zoe quinn stuff too.
[31/12/2014, 1:41:23 PM] Quinnae: http://privatepaste.com/3c85a29b32 Their new thing is this nonsense with a firm called UBM that I've never heard of, a consultancy concern in the UK.
[31/12/2014, 1:41:53 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 1:42:05 PM] Athena Hollow: Red mspaint lines of doom
[31/12/2014, 1:42:24 PM] David Gallant: Joy.
[31/12/2014, 1:42:36 PM] David Gallant: Remember when Zoe Quinn wasn't a central target of GG?
[31/12/2014, 1:42:40 PM] David Gallant: Because I sure don't.
[31/12/2014, 1:42:43 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 1:43:32 PM] Quinnae: I admit I'm a touch worried.
[31/12/2014, 1:43:51 PM] Athena Hollow: don't be. seriously they are fuckin terrible at this shit.
[31/12/2014, 1:44:01 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: too many broken images for me to see what's up here
[31/12/2014, 1:44:04 PM] Athena Hollow: Remember the big "CHRISTMAS HARD DRIVE DUMP!" that never happened?
[31/12/2014, 1:44:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: all I'm really getting is someone trying to use "Greed" as a noun, which is making me snicker at a reference too nerdy for anyone to get
[31/12/2014, 1:44:54 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 1:45:28 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: whats UBM?
[31/12/2014, 1:45:39 PM] Athena Hollow: Always remember: Their PROFESSIONAL BASED LAWYER can't remember the word "EVER" lol
[31/12/2014, 1:45:58 PM] Athena Hollow: It's like 500 3 stooges re-enactments.
[31/12/2014, 1:48:48 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: It was the best Christmas eliver.
[31/12/2014, 1:49:18 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 1:55:19 PM] Peter Coffin: derblu fevla
[31/12/2014, 1:55:48 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Now I'm really curious: http://ask.fm/VeerenderJubbal/answer/124209621190
[31/12/2014, 1:56:13 PM] Quinnae: Sarah: UBM is... I don't know what. A consulting firm in the UK?
[31/12/2014, 1:57:42 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts hugs katherine D:
[31/12/2014, 1:58:31 PM] Peter Coffin: katherine you know you just say the word and you have a bunch of folks here who will jump to help in any way we can.
[31/12/2014, 1:59:40 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh, Veerender. https://twitter.com/Veeren_Jubbal/status/550169054736969728
[31/12/2014, 2:00:55 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL https://twitter.com/Veeren_Jubbal/status/550169507788890112
[31/12/2014, 2:01:23 PM] Athena Hollow: lolol
[31/12/2014, 2:01:37 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Shit, now I want to know how to pronounce his name
[31/12/2014, 2:03:21 PM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/550167055387742208?s=09
[31/12/2014, 2:03:21 PM] Remy: XD
[31/12/2014, 2:04:00 PM] Peter Coffin: they're still pissed off kim kardashian has made more games than rogue
[31/12/2014, 2:04:04 PM] Athena Hollow: LOLOL
[31/12/2014, 2:04:07 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AHAHA
[31/12/2014, 2:04:11 PM] David Gallant: PFFFFFFT
[31/12/2014, 2:04:27 PM] David Gallant: That Kim Kardashian game was all right.
[31/12/2014, 2:05:49 PM] Peter Coffin: I just love pointing that out. I take it seriously as a game, I don't personally love it by any means but I do. I just LOVE that someone I flat out know they hate without them even having to say it has made more games than someone who's ran two kickstarters to swindle people with but claims to be a developer
[31/12/2014, 2:06:23 PM] Peter Coffin: and they love
[31/12/2014, 2:08:55 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOLOLOLOL: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550171530001276930
[31/12/2014, 2:10:53 PM] David Gallant: Folks, I'm gonna get booted from this room as I clear my Skype history: can someone invite me back in a few minutes?
[31/12/2014, 2:11:30 PM] Athena Hollow: will do.
[31/12/2014, 2:12:06 PM] Tesseract: is chris here
[31/12/2014, 2:12:09 PM] Tesseract: or can anyone contact
[31/12/2014, 2:14:11 PM] Ian Cheong: "Chu is not a fair guy: when Namco said they are against "threats and harassment" they are NOT saying they are against Gamergate. Their statement is almost the same of Blizzard. Chu is distorting the issue on purpose."
[31/12/2014, 2:14:17 PM] Ian Cheong: Chu? really?
[31/12/2014, 2:14:21 PM] Ian Cheong: the article has my name right fucking there
[31/12/2014, 2:14:25 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): O
[31/12/2014, 2:14:25 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): M
[31/12/2014, 2:14:26 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): G
[31/12/2014, 2:14:35 PM] Ian Cheong: http://www.gamepolitics.com/2014/12/30/bandai-namco-clarifies-its-position-gamergate#.VKOS3oqUfjY
[31/12/2014, 2:14:39 PM] Ian Cheong: in the comment section
[31/12/2014, 2:14:58 PM] Athena Hollow: omfg dude
[31/12/2014, 2:15:00 PM] Athena Hollow: omfg lol
[31/12/2014, 2:15:14 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Yes, their statement is almost the same as Blizzard's. Both condemn your hateful little cult.
[31/12/2014, 2:15:49 PM] Ian Cheong: except they mention gamergate by name
[31/12/2014, 2:15:52 PM] Ian Cheong: which is a plus
[31/12/2014, 2:17:28 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ian: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550173803465031680
[31/12/2014, 2:20:40 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Tess, what do we need to tell Chris?
[31/12/2014, 2:20:56 PM] David Gallant: Thanks!
[31/12/2014, 2:21:14 PM] David Gallant: Can someone re-add me to Serious Chat too?
[31/12/2014, 2:21:32 PM] Tesseract: you're not removed, you just lose the link
[31/12/2014, 2:21:38 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): How do we know you're the real David?...
[31/12/2014, 2:21:40 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): jk
[31/12/2014, 2:21:43 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ;)
[31/12/2014, 2:21:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I really do need to get my membership card to that place sometime
[31/12/2014, 2:22:39 PM] SF: David Chu
[31/12/2014, 2:23:01 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Peter Gallant
[31/12/2014, 2:23:04 PM] SF: This can be our uniform. Everyone's last name is Chu.
[31/12/2014, 2:23:09 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 2:23:16 PM] Peter Coffin: Pambo Chuffin
[31/12/2014, 2:23:26 PM] Tesseract: SJWChuminati
[31/12/2014, 2:23:37 PM] Peter Coffin: lol
[31/12/2014, 2:23:39 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): There you go, new display name for Twitter
[31/12/2014, 2:24:22 PM] Peter Coffin: Ian Miles Chu would really get their goat
[31/12/2014, 2:24:32 PM] Athena Hollow: LOLOL
[31/12/2014, 2:25:23 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ian S Chu
[31/12/2014, 2:25:28 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): No period on the S
[31/12/2014, 2:25:39 PM] Peter Coffin: Ian Effect
[31/12/2014, 2:25:52 PM] David Gallant: Izzy - you know me too well.
[31/12/2014, 2:26:03 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[31/12/2014, 2:26:14 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Athena Frequency
[31/12/2014, 2:26:15 PM] Peter Coffin: izzy is super observant, that is your strength my friend
[31/12/2014, 2:26:39 PM] Peter Coffin: and that is one of the better strengths out there
[31/12/2014, 2:27:33 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): thanks!
[31/12/2014, 2:29:21 PM] Athena Hollow: ^_^
[31/12/2014, 2:41:33 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550179621720064001
[31/12/2014, 2:43:50 PM] Randi Harper: ack. offline for a day or two, and 6666 unread messages in this chat. THAT IS ONE SIX TOO MANY.
[31/12/2014, 2:43:59 PM] Tesseract: ha
[31/12/2014, 2:44:12 PM] Tesseract: I sent you two twitter reports btw
[31/12/2014, 2:44:17 PM] drinternetphd: sorry. they're raiding my family really hard right now and doxing people I went to high school with
[31/12/2014, 2:44:25 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ugh
[31/12/2014, 2:44:29 PM] drinternetphd: because they found a livejournal where I was boring and 15/16
[31/12/2014, 2:44:49 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: you knw
[31/12/2014, 2:45:13 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: at this point, the thing to do is put together a detailed report and send it to every member of congress.
[31/12/2014, 2:45:23 PM] Randi Harper: going through mentions - david, I didn't see it as game dev elitism. for me, it's a title thing. i'm unaware of any elitism issues surrounding this, so if I wandered into some kind of politicized thing, i'm sorry. didn't mean for it to come off that way. o_O
[31/12/2014, 2:46:21 PM] Randi Harper: also not sure how you think I insulted you. what did I say? o_O
[31/12/2014, 2:46:29 PM] Peter Coffin: I already forgot about that randi, honestly even if it was some elitism you can't tell me that is even close to what everyone is dealing with
[31/12/2014, 2:46:52 PM] Peter Coffin: I was confused by the whole thing in the end
[31/12/2014, 2:46:56 PM] Peter Coffin: gave up
[31/12/2014, 2:47:01 PM] Randi Harper: yeah, I really didn't mean to come off like that. I don't come from the game world. i'm still new to it. long time gamer, but new to the industry. i'm just used to dev meaning development.
[31/12/2014, 2:47:11 PM] Randi Harper: it's not elitism, it's a job description
[31/12/2014, 2:47:17 PM] Randi Harper: which is why I ALWAYS say i'm not a dev.
[31/12/2014, 2:47:35 PM] Randi Harper: I've done dev, but it's not what I do now.
[31/12/2014, 2:47:36 PM] Peter Coffin: I'm not a rapper
[31/12/2014, 2:47:49 PM] Randi Harper: I don't classify myself as being in game dev
[31/12/2014, 2:48:00 PM] Randi Harper: that entire conversation on twitter just confused the heck out of me, tbh.
[31/12/2014, 2:48:11 PM] Peter Coffin: I tried to decipher it
[31/12/2014, 2:48:25 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: except that one time when I was saying it was weird how GG was targeting you when you were neither a dev nor a journo
[31/12/2014, 2:48:27 PM] Randi Harper: it's really weird to me that people think that dev is some kind of elitist title.
[31/12/2014, 2:48:42 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Which is it Randi!? Pick a side!
[31/12/2014, 2:48:47 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 2:48:56 PM] drinternetphd: please report any archive.todays you see about me
[31/12/2014, 2:48:57 PM] Randi Harper: sgg: at that point, I was doing FOSS dev to shut them up. :) but I don't do dev for work.
[31/12/2014, 2:48:57 PM] Peter Coffin: well it's like... game development is very much art, it's very technical art but art
[31/12/2014, 2:48:59 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Secret Gamer Girl adjusts that big ol' ceiling lamp
[31/12/2014, 2:49:02 PM] SF: https://twitter.com/Int_Aristocrap/status/550181457398734848
[31/12/2014, 2:49:07 PM] SF: Will do Zoe.
[31/12/2014, 2:49:13 PM] Peter Coffin: hear you zoe
[31/12/2014, 2:49:22 PM] Peter Coffin: if we can do anything else please let us know
[31/12/2014, 2:49:26 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: they also use archive.moe or somesuch don't they?
[31/12/2014, 2:49:41 PM] drinternetphd: that's for 4chan threads
[31/12/2014, 2:49:45 PM] Randi Harper: dev is not glamorous. especially outside of startups/indie. you're basically doing what other people tell you to do, for the most part.
[31/12/2014, 2:49:53 PM] Randi Harper: which is why i'm bewildered that anyone would look at it with elitism.
[31/12/2014, 2:49:58 PM] drinternetphd: god fucking damnit this means another shitty phone call to my dad
[31/12/2014, 2:50:02 PM] Randi Harper: it's like when people that are new to dev are like "IM GONNA BE A KERNEL DEV WHEN I GROW UP"
[31/12/2014, 2:50:06 PM] Randi Harper: and it's like... you poor thing.
[31/12/2014, 2:50:07 PM] drinternetphd: he just called me two days ago to tell me I need to come home for will stuff
[31/12/2014, 2:50:08 PM] Peter Coffin: sorry zoe
[31/12/2014, 2:50:10 PM] drinternetphd: so that rules
[31/12/2014, 2:50:26 PM] drinternetphd: one of the last conversations I have with my father might be about gamergate.
[31/12/2014, 2:50:35 PM] Randi Harper: ack. :(
[31/12/2014, 2:50:36 PM] Randi Harper: hugs zoe
[31/12/2014, 2:50:56 PM] Peter Coffin: just one shitpile after another and i'm sorry this is how this is going in your life because of these people
[31/12/2014, 2:51:10 PM] drinternetphd: really glad the first time i was hanging out with one of alex's family members too ended in me having to bail because a raid was happening
[31/12/2014, 2:51:14 PM] drinternetphd: so glad this is my life now
[31/12/2014, 2:51:37 PM] Randi Harper: i'm talking to some congressional aide next week. you pursuing that route at all?
[31/12/2014, 2:51:57 PM] drinternetphd: haven't had the time
[31/12/2014, 2:52:31 PM] Peter Coffin: is it to early to know if they got anything sensitive from you?
[31/12/2014, 2:52:58 PM] drinternetphd: just shit to embarass me about having been 17 once
[31/12/2014, 2:53:16 PM] drinternetphd: I am more freaked out that they're going after people I haven't talked to in over 10 years and digging into my family again
[31/12/2014, 2:53:30 PM] drinternetphd: including in-person stalking my hometown
[31/12/2014, 2:53:32 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, that's super weird
[31/12/2014, 2:53:55 PM] drinternetphd: it's one thing when it's my life
[31/12/2014, 2:54:04 PM] drinternetphd: but when I'm the vector for totally unrelated people being harassed?
[31/12/2014, 2:54:09 PM] Peter Coffin: during my thing the attackers went after my ex and she and her now-husband got into contact with me about whether or not I made up a fake girlfriend
[31/12/2014, 2:54:10 PM] drinternetphd: when they're bringing up my shitty abusive childhood?
[31/12/2014, 2:54:48 PM] drinternetphd: like shit my friend said about shit:
[31/12/2014, 2:54:49 PM] drinternetphd: >http://tigerpoetess.livejournal.com/?skip=160

>I've been worried about Chelsea again too. She seems unhappy. I love her though and I wish she could find a way to be happy and do something she loves that will take her places in the world. She's definately got the spirit, she just needs the support and help of her friends. She will likely be all of a poet, singer, musician, writer, politician, philosopher, and artist in her adulthood. She's all that now, but I think she'll be recognized soon enough.

kek
[31/12/2014, 2:54:52 PM] Peter Coffin: it's majorly embarrassing, I'm sorry this is a new level of shit to deal with
[31/12/2014, 2:55:06 PM] drinternetphd: they're literally laughing at the fucked up shit I barely lived through when I was that age now
[31/12/2014, 2:55:15 PM] drinternetphd: and hurting the people that kept me alive
[31/12/2014, 2:55:19 PM] SF: It just goes to show it's not even you personally that they hate. They just hate.
[31/12/2014, 2:55:20 PM] drinternetphd: that have nothing to do with me anymore
[31/12/2014, 2:55:29 PM] drinternetphd: I don't care what the reasons are
[31/12/2014, 2:55:43 PM] Peter Coffin: they hate zoe quinn the symbol
[31/12/2014, 2:55:46 PM] drinternetphd: the girl they linked just now is a fucking otherkin
[31/12/2014, 2:55:50 PM] drinternetphd: I am scared for her
[31/12/2014, 2:55:55 PM] drinternetphd: or at least she was back at that age
[31/12/2014, 2:55:56 PM] Peter Coffin: oh fuck
[31/12/2014, 2:56:13 PM] Peter Coffin: eeeeeehhhhh that could become a problem if they pursue it
[31/12/2014, 2:56:29 PM] Peter Coffin: do you have a way to contact them?
[31/12/2014, 2:56:34 PM] Peter Coffin: ugh
[31/12/2014, 2:56:40 PM] Peter Coffin: wow that sounds so weird
[31/12/2014, 2:56:51 PM] Peter Coffin: contact the person you haven't talked to for years to warn them about gamers
[31/12/2014, 2:57:21 PM] Peter Coffin: I hate when that flood of awareness comes in like "you should do this! wait, that involves the real world"
[31/12/2014, 2:57:27 PM] Peter Coffin: not gameland
[31/12/2014, 2:57:33 PM] Peter Coffin: or gateland?
[31/12/2014, 2:57:43 PM] Peter Coffin: whatever gg's world is
[31/12/2014, 2:58:12 PM] drinternetphd: ffffff
[31/12/2014, 2:58:38 PM] drinternetphd: one of the people they're digging into is someone I "dated" when I was 15 and he was like 30
[31/12/2014, 2:58:46 PM] drinternetphd: who has a criminal record and used to be a heroin user
[31/12/2014, 2:58:50 PM] drinternetphd: I am sure this will go SO FUCKING WELL for me
[31/12/2014, 2:58:57 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :(
[31/12/2014, 2:59:00 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: So they're on a recruitment drive then.
[31/12/2014, 2:59:21 PM] Peter Coffin: I'm just going to say that sounds like you would by default be the victim in that situation
[31/12/2014, 2:59:24 PM] drinternetphd: I am SO FUCKING GLAD that fucking "gamers" are dredging out the shit that I have been trying to heal from and move on from for my entire fucking life
[31/12/2014, 2:59:52 PM] drinternetphd: yeah welcome to my fucking origin. a lot of really horrible shit happened to me that I have worked so hard to move on from
[31/12/2014, 3:00:10 PM] drinternetphd: and now that's being fucking taken away from me
[31/12/2014, 3:00:14 PM] Peter Coffin: i'm sorry
[31/12/2014, 3:00:17 PM] drinternetphd: I spent YEARS fighting for that peace of mind
[31/12/2014, 3:00:24 PM] drinternetphd: basically crawled out of fucking hell
[31/12/2014, 3:01:38 PM] Peter Coffin: god I hate these fucking people.
[31/12/2014, 3:01:40 PM] SF: I really wish I had anything helpful to say. It's just exactly as horrible as it looks and there's nothing else to it.
[31/12/2014, 3:01:56 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I can sympathize a little here. I had a rather traumatic trip down memory lane the last time I was in the same room as my father but... yeah, there really are no words here.
[31/12/2014, 3:02:29 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, I am desperately trying to think of ways to try to ease what kind of stress this has to be causing but I am not great at that
[31/12/2014, 3:02:38 PM] SF: I'm almost out of anger. It's just this numb feeling of static and heat.
[31/12/2014, 3:02:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Usual offers still apply though, anything you need in any capacity, just ask.
[31/12/2014, 3:02:54 PM] SF: These people grew up in the first world and this is what they spend their lives doing. It's unbelievable.
[31/12/2014, 3:03:20 PM] Peter Coffin: second that ssg
[31/12/2014, 3:03:32 PM] drinternetphd: "I went through them all and ctrl+f'd 'chelsea' and that was the only interestign one. Same girl also said she got chelsea hooked on orson scott card.

The last link has so many entries that I got bored with LJ's shitty setup. Can't be bothered to go through all his posts, but he is constantly whining about women.

It was fun but I don't think there is much else here other than building more of her character profile."
[31/12/2014, 3:03:34 PM] Peter Coffin: I know
[31/12/2014, 3:03:35 PM] drinternetphd: "it was fun".
[31/12/2014, 3:03:50 PM] drinternetphd: why don't they fucking drive to my dad's house and break the lock off my diary while they're at it
[31/12/2014, 3:04:18 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: remember when it was cool to read OSC books? And they were all about understanding and not judging people?
[31/12/2014, 3:04:28 PM] Peter Coffin: you know, I know this is wrong, but there needs to be a reverse hatred
[31/12/2014, 3:04:40 PM] Peter Coffin: this is just unexcusable
[31/12/2014, 3:04:48 PM] Peter Coffin: these are unredeemable human beings
[31/12/2014, 3:04:50 PM] SF: The problem is the opposite of hatred isn't differently aimed hatred.
[31/12/2014, 3:05:12 PM] SF: They don't like violence because it implies X group's dominance over Y, they like it because it's violent.
[31/12/2014, 3:05:18 PM] SF: They're agents of chaos.
[31/12/2014, 3:05:34 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: hmm
[31/12/2014, 3:05:41 PM] Athena Hollow: they're fucking children who need their goddamn smart phones taken away.
[31/12/2014, 3:05:44 PM] Peter Coffin: I said I know it's wrong, that's why. I'm morally against what I am saying right now. It's just so shitty what these people are doing to someone who literally is basically just defending herself at this point
[31/12/2014, 3:06:10 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: what do you mean "at this point?"
[31/12/2014, 3:06:26 PM] SF: Oh I'm not even saying it's morally wrong. I'd feel in the moral right knocking any of their teeth in in real life.
[31/12/2014, 3:06:32 PM] SF: But it helps their ultimate goal is the problem.
[31/12/2014, 3:06:41 PM] Tesseract: is randi still here
[31/12/2014, 3:07:03 PM] Peter Coffin: what proactive things does zoe do to harm them? like legitimately harm gg without an impetus
[31/12/2014, 3:07:07 PM] Peter Coffin: that is what I mean
[31/12/2014, 3:07:08 PM] drinternetphd: if I leave my number can someone monitor my shit
[31/12/2014, 3:07:15 PM] drinternetphd: because they're dissecting how I look naked now
[31/12/2014, 3:07:17 PM] drinternetphd: and I just
[31/12/2014, 3:07:28 PM] drinternetphd: I don't wanna exist anymore
[31/12/2014, 3:07:58 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Please don't talk like that.
[31/12/2014, 3:08:06 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :( So sorry this is happening.
[31/12/2014, 3:08:22 PM] drinternetphd: I'm sorry. I am just really, really tired.
[31/12/2014, 3:08:22 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: And, more to the point, don't think like that.
[31/12/2014, 3:08:24 PM] Peter Coffin: I am speechless, very upset for you zoe.
[31/12/2014, 3:08:25 PM] drinternetphd: and this isn't going to end
[31/12/2014, 3:08:33 PM] drinternetphd: they're going to keep hurting everyone I ever loved
[31/12/2014, 3:08:42 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh yes it will
[31/12/2014, 3:08:45 PM] drinternetphd: it's been five months
[31/12/2014, 3:08:52 PM] drinternetphd: it didn't end for kathy sierra and she vanished
[31/12/2014, 3:08:57 PM] drinternetphd: it hasn't even slowed down for anita
[31/12/2014, 3:09:11 PM] drinternetphd: they are always going to be hunting me
[31/12/2014, 3:09:22 PM] drinternetphd: most days I can deal with that
[31/12/2014, 3:09:25 PM] drinternetphd: today isn't one.
[31/12/2014, 3:09:37 PM] drinternetphd: I haven't figured out how to cope with them hurting my family
[31/12/2014, 3:09:39 PM] SF: Don't deal with it today. Leave it to us.
[31/12/2014, 3:10:15 PM] Peter Coffin: you absolutely don't deserve this, this is so wrong
[31/12/2014, 3:10:37 PM] SF: Just remember this isn't your fault. You know it isn't but I wanted to assert it out loud. What they do to anyone near you is absolutely no reflection on you or your worth.
[31/12/2014, 3:10:51 PM] SF: It's just terrorism and terrorism wouldn't exist if it wasn't good at its job.
[31/12/2014, 3:11:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: All I have to say is
[31/12/2014, 3:11:22 PM] Peter Coffin: agreed, this has nothing to do with you. the you they have invented is just that, an invention. you are you, and you know you. dont let them distort that
[31/12/2014, 3:11:45 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: The public image of these people is so absolutely deplorable I can't see them ever recruiting anyone new.
[31/12/2014, 3:11:49 PM] drinternetphd: that's cold comfort
[31/12/2014, 3:11:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Some of them are going to be arrested.
[31/12/2014, 3:12:02 PM] drinternetphd: doubt it.
[31/12/2014, 3:12:24 PM] drinternetphd: this is just my life now
[31/12/2014, 3:12:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Youtube video guy probably is. Randi's office visitor probably is.
[31/12/2014, 3:12:50 PM] Peter Coffin: youtube video guy?
[31/12/2014, 3:12:54 PM] Peter Coffin: OH
[31/12/2014, 3:12:57 PM] Randi Harper: Tesseract: i'm here
[31/12/2014, 3:13:06 PM] Peter Coffin: sorry, I keep forgetting that a person did that
[31/12/2014, 3:13:08 PM] drinternetphd: I will believe it when a judge doesn't just say the internet doesn't matter
[31/12/2014, 3:13:25 PM] Athena Hollow: The fucking fact that you couldn't do this shit in person, or by a goddamn handwritten letter, or phone call... but you can do it online is such fucking crap.
[31/12/2014, 3:13:31 PM] Peter Coffin: these people do things I forget a person is on the other end of they are so shitty
[31/12/2014, 3:13:34 PM] SF: You've saved lives. Remember that. You've done more good on Earth than most people ever do.
[31/12/2014, 3:13:37 PM] Randi Harper: Skype is never a good way to find me, fwiw. and I get grumpy if people Skype at me directly unless it's for WoW arenas or an emergency. :P
[31/12/2014, 3:13:38 PM] Tesseract: two things, first since you're a major target I'm going to need you to turn off skype history
[31/12/2014, 3:13:42 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I really have to assume there's SOME formal federal investigation into 8chan, GG related or not, so, odds are good Brennan is
[31/12/2014, 3:13:48 PM] Randi Harper: er.
[31/12/2014, 3:14:01 PM] Randi Harper: sorry I can't do that. I can leave the chat if that's a problem.
[31/12/2014, 3:14:09 PM] Tesseract: damn
[31/12/2014, 3:14:15 PM] Randi Harper: if someone breaks into my Skype, they've got bigger worries than gamergate.
[31/12/2014, 3:14:28 PM] Tesseract: I guess just make sure you have a shitload of security which you probably already do
[31/12/2014, 3:14:33 PM] Peter Coffin: its true zoe, you have truly made a huge difference. likely very small consolation because of the cost it's come with, but you have done more in your life for others than I have.
[31/12/2014, 3:14:46 PM] Tesseract: second did you get those two reports I sent you
[31/12/2014, 3:14:47 PM] Peter Coffin: and I think others like me would say the same
[31/12/2014, 3:14:52 PM] Randi Harper: yes, I wasn't sure who they were from.
[31/12/2014, 3:14:56 PM] Randi Harper: I can't really do anything this week.
[31/12/2014, 3:15:02 PM] Randi Harper: i did want to make something clear in here, though.
[31/12/2014, 3:15:04 PM] Tesseract: alright
[31/12/2014, 3:15:17 PM] Randi Harper: while i have contacts at twitter, i feel uncomfortable leaning on them for anything other than an emergency situation.
[31/12/2014, 3:15:33 PM] Randi Harper: for example, i'm shooting them an email because one of my friends recently got threatened with swatting if he didn't give up his twitter account name.
[31/12/2014, 3:15:46 PM] Randi Harper: i'm contacting them about that because the IP logs are important, and they are deleted quickly.
[31/12/2014, 3:15:47 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and I do think, once things properly break apart here, the new normal established will be at least a LITTLE better than the years of proto-GG picking a new target to torment on a monthly basis.
[31/12/2014, 3:16:10 PM] Randi Harper: so if it's like direct threats, excessive douchebaggery that is going unchecked, i can work to escalate those.
[31/12/2014, 3:16:17 PM] Randi Harper: but my contacts are only valuable if only use them sometimes.
[31/12/2014, 3:16:23 PM] Randi Harper: otherwise i become static. background noise in their inbox.
[31/12/2014, 3:16:25 PM] Tesseract: welp
[31/12/2014, 3:16:25 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Okay guys, I'm taking Zoe out for some comfort ramen because we havent eaten in 12 hours and I highly suspect that's contributing to the mindset.
[31/12/2014, 3:16:44 PM] Athena Hollow: Absolutely good idea.
[31/12/2014, 3:16:51 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah, food beats sad pretty often
[31/12/2014, 3:16:53 PM] Remy: Yeah GEt some food and rest please
[31/12/2014, 3:16:56 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I am recommending everyone use /showplaces to make sure they are only signed on from approved devices.
[31/12/2014, 3:17:02 PM] Randi Harper: ramen is comfort food. <3
[31/12/2014, 3:17:13 PM] Athena Hollow: done.
[31/12/2014, 3:17:14 PM] Peter Coffin: do something good, just do something good. I am worried about you both alex and zoe
[31/12/2014, 3:17:15 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Will also ask if someone can re-create the room and re-invite everyone to flush the logs while we're out.
[31/12/2014, 3:17:30 PM] Randi Harper: suggestion.
[31/12/2014, 3:17:30 PM] Tesseract: can you ask them the best way to report overlapping use accounts or something
[31/12/2014, 3:17:31 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Just to be safe.
[31/12/2014, 3:17:33 PM] Tesseract: I can do that
[31/12/2014, 3:17:34 PM] Randi Harper: why don't we just switch to google chat?
[31/12/2014, 3:17:37 PM] Randi Harper: you can take a specific chat off the recordc
[31/12/2014, 3:17:41 PM] Randi Harper: and it's MUCH BETTER THAN SKYPE.
[31/12/2014, 3:17:44 PM] Randi Harper: for big group conversations.
[31/12/2014, 3:17:49 PM] Tesseract: we'll have to check that out
[31/12/2014, 3:17:53 PM] Peter Coffin: id be not upset with that
[31/12/2014, 3:17:55 PM] Tesseract: because skype is very bad
[31/12/2014, 3:18:01 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Randi: Might be a good idea.

Can someone check that out and, if so, coordinate it?
[31/12/2014, 3:18:04 PM] Peter Coffin: I looooooooove google chat
[31/12/2014, 3:18:08 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah. We've grown too big for Skype
[31/12/2014, 3:18:13 PM] Tesseract: and also I use it for other reasons and I'd like to not be constantly alerted to skype shit
[31/12/2014, 3:18:15 PM] Randi Harper: Skype is horrible. it is not meant for extended conversations like this. it crashes on multiple devices of mine because they aren't always online.
[31/12/2014, 3:18:28 PM] Tesseract: skype is the fucking worst for this shit
[31/12/2014, 3:18:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yup
[31/12/2014, 3:18:38 PM] Randi Harper: google chat would work. or i could set up a private IP restricted SSL encrypted IRC server if you want to go even more secure.
[31/12/2014, 3:18:39 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, I agree
[31/12/2014, 3:19:15 PM] Randi Harper: i'm happy to set that up and show people clients to use for how to use such a thing.
[31/12/2014, 3:19:23 PM] Randi Harper: it would be nice to untie things from personal accounts.
[31/12/2014, 3:19:25 PM] Tesseract: either works
[31/12/2014, 3:19:26 PM] Peter Coffin: I'd be happiest with google chat, just because whenever I use irc on mobile devices it basically turns into nothing because I don't get any sort of reminders there's activity
[31/12/2014, 3:19:29 PM] Tesseract: unlike skype which does not work
[31/12/2014, 3:19:32 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: IRC is Less Than Great if you're trying not to reveal locations though.
[31/12/2014, 3:19:33 PM] SF: I was avoiding Gchat because of Google's shitty name policies making me feel awful every time I have to look at a name I share with family members but I'll bite the bullet for this.
[31/12/2014, 3:19:56 PM] Athena Hollow: sf: I should be able to set you up with an account on one of my domains to avoid that.
[31/12/2014, 3:19:58 PM] Randi Harper: sigh
[31/12/2014, 3:20:01 PM] Randi Harper: i have a question
[31/12/2014, 3:20:04 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yes?
[31/12/2014, 3:20:08 PM] Randi Harper: will someone here call a dude and be like STOP CALLING MY GIRLFRIEND
[31/12/2014, 3:20:15 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahahahahha
[31/12/2014, 3:20:18 PM] Randi Harper: because this creepster has called me multiple times and i don't freaking know him
[31/12/2014, 3:20:28 PM] Randi Harper: he called me at 12 AM before, and he just called again.
[31/12/2014, 3:20:36 PM] Peter Coffin: I would but my wife would be extremely unhappy with me
[31/12/2014, 3:20:52 PM] Randi Harper: SGG: IRC can use masked IPs
[31/12/2014, 3:20:56 PM] Randi Harper: SGG: it would also be a private server.
[31/12/2014, 3:21:03 PM] Randi Harper: I would run it on GGAB's infrastructure.
[31/12/2014, 3:21:05 PM] SF: Good point I could use an alt.
[31/12/2014, 3:21:06 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: keen
[31/12/2014, 3:21:14 PM] Randi Harper: i could limit it to specific IP addresses for each of us.
[31/12/2014, 3:21:23 PM] Tesseract: randi is obviously good at this so let's do that
[31/12/2014, 3:21:24 PM] SF: IRC sounds sensible.
[31/12/2014, 3:21:45 PM] SF: Can we 2FA that though?
[31/12/2014, 3:21:46 PM] Peter Coffin: I roam a lot, I have at least three ips and I do not know if any are dynamic
[31/12/2014, 3:21:51 PM] Randi Harper: that does mean that I need to know IPs. but i can promise not to do anything with that information at all. it won't be saved outside of GODDAMNIT HE IS CALLING AGAIN
[31/12/2014, 3:21:52 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: masked IPs set server side or have I just been living in the dark there?
[31/12/2014, 3:22:14 PM] Randi Harper: IRC doesn't have to 2FA.
[31/12/2014, 3:22:26 PM] Randi Harper: no one will be able to even access the port unless they are coming from your home address.
[31/12/2014, 3:22:36 PM] SF: Ahh right.
[31/12/2014, 3:22:40 PM] Randi Harper: they would have to have access to your internet connection in order to connect.
[31/12/2014, 3:22:47 PM] Peter Coffin: I use this from both of my jobs and my home address
[31/12/2014, 3:22:56 PM] Randi Harper: what i might be able to do to anonymize this is create a script that sits on my webserver that adds a security group rule anonymously.
[31/12/2014, 3:22:56 PM] SF: Wait but could we not connect from outside our home networks then?
[31/12/2014, 3:23:04 PM] SF: I'm in cafes on the laptop more than half the time.
[31/12/2014, 3:23:07 PM] Randi Harper: if i create that script, you'll be able to add a rule.
[31/12/2014, 3:23:15 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: my IP does tend to float around a bit
[31/12/2014, 3:23:21 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): We could try Google Chat first and then if that is not enough, IRC
[31/12/2014, 3:23:39 PM] Athena Hollow: IRC sounds like it'd be good, but yeah, with lots of floating I think it'll just end up being a big ol bogged down mess in the end.
[31/12/2014, 3:23:44 PM] Athena Hollow: could set it up for the super secure shit though
[31/12/2014, 3:23:57 PM] Randi Harper: basically you'd just go to something like https://randi.io/SUPERSECRET, put in some kind of passphrase that we agree upon (or maybe an individual one per person? i like that idea better), and it'll automatically add your IP to the security group.
[31/12/2014, 3:23:58 PM] Athena Hollow: and use the google chat for our social chat essentially
[31/12/2014, 3:24:00 PM] Randi Harper: this would be trivial for me to set up.
[31/12/2014, 3:24:09 PM] Tesseract: what's floating
[31/12/2014, 3:24:27 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: aha, that's a way to go
[31/12/2014, 3:24:28 PM] Athena Hollow: by floating I mean people having various IPs due to not always being at home on their computer.
[31/12/2014, 3:24:35 PM] Tesseract: ah
[31/12/2014, 3:25:11 PM] Peter Coffin: I'd be good as long as there was some way for me to get in from anywhere with relatively few steps, I do agree with google for social though
[31/12/2014, 3:25:48 PM] Quinnae: I also agree.
[31/12/2014, 3:25:52 PM] Randi Harper: my only problem with google is that it is tied to a google account.
[31/12/2014, 3:25:56 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah
[31/12/2014, 3:26:16 PM] Randi Harper: and people are notorious for having their google accounts hacked. plus there's the whole real name issue.
[31/12/2014, 3:26:28 PM] SF: Oh of course I could use my corporate account.
[31/12/2014, 3:26:33 PM] Randi Harper: and i don't know about you, but i'm not logging into 3 separate google accounts. (i already log into 1 for work, 1 for home)
[31/12/2014, 3:26:33 PM] Chris Kluwe: deletin the records
[31/12/2014, 3:26:36 PM] Tesseract: thanks
[31/12/2014, 3:27:13 PM] Randi Harper: okay i am going to get grandpa to call this guy and yell at the creep
[31/12/2014, 3:27:19 PM] Randi Harper: if he ever gets home from his girlfriend ffs
[31/12/2014, 3:27:24 PM] Chris Kluwe: ok, mine are clear to now
[31/12/2014, 3:27:25 PM] Randi Harper: dude is still calling
[31/12/2014, 3:27:26 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh yeah Chris- Did you do the standard "Hey police? GG's talking about SWATing me, so, heads up?" call?
[31/12/2014, 3:27:27 PM] Peter Coffin: I need to sleep, whatever you guys put together I'll be there. Just have to arrange habits around it, I am one of those weirdos
[31/12/2014, 3:27:35 PM] Chris Kluwe: yeah
[31/12/2014, 3:27:40 PM] Chris Kluwe: they thought i lived at Mumford and Sons
[31/12/2014, 3:27:44 PM] Randi Harper: is that a weird call to make? how did they take it?
[31/12/2014, 3:27:54 PM] Chris Kluwe: receptionist was pleasant, i had to explain it to her though
[31/12/2014, 3:28:00 PM] Chris Kluwe: she put an alert in
[31/12/2014, 3:28:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: so if my address pops up they'll call my cell
[31/12/2014, 3:28:18 PM] Randi Harper: hm. okay. I've been considering it, just in case. i'm sort of sick of having to wear pants around. thanks gamergate.
[31/12/2014, 3:28:23 PM] Chris Kluwe: i'm more worried about my brother than anything, because if they do anything on the first, i wont even be there
[31/12/2014, 3:28:24 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 3:28:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's pretty easy
[31/12/2014, 3:29:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: just call them up and say "Hey, there's this group on the internet, they like to reveal people's personal information and then try to call down a Swat team on them, i've seen them reveal mine, just want to give you all a heads up"
[31/12/2014, 3:29:28 PM] Remy: This whole conversation is too surreal. Also I can adapt to google hangouts or IRC. So I have no preference.
[31/12/2014, 3:29:46 PM] Chris Kluwe: ok, well i'm back upstairs, enjoy your night all
[31/12/2014, 3:29:50 PM] Randi Harper: if people tell me they want to do the IRC thing, i will go ahead and set that up. but i want to make sure that's what everyone wants vs google.
[31/12/2014, 3:29:50 PM] Remy: Randi I'm not sure I think I can call your harasser without resolving to death threats I'm an impatient person
[31/12/2014, 3:29:52 PM] Randi Harper: so take a vote or something.
[31/12/2014, 3:29:53 PM] Athena Hollow: night chris
[31/12/2014, 3:30:12 PM] Randi Harper: for my money, it's a lot more secure. TONS.
[31/12/2014, 3:30:16 PM] Tesseract: someone run through the pros and cons of each
[31/12/2014, 3:30:17 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I'd vastly prefer the IRC thing
[31/12/2014, 3:30:24 PM] Randi Harper: so if that's the issue, it's a good idea. but it does involve a 3rd party program, so it's slightly more of a hassle, depending.
[31/12/2014, 3:30:46 PM] Randi Harper: i also have a legitimate SSL cert, so that makes life easier.
[31/12/2014, 3:30:50 PM] Randi Harper: not even self-signed.
[31/12/2014, 3:30:54 PM] Randi Harper: yay donations.
[31/12/2014, 3:31:46 PM] SF: I'm fine with IRC if you're confident the IP filter won't be a huge hassle or a security breach.
[31/12/2014, 3:32:10 PM] SF: I have as many as a couple dozen public networks I might be using.
[31/12/2014, 3:32:24 PM] Randi Harper: i'm pretty good at those things. it'll take me a night or so to look up how to use the API to add SG rules on AWS, but i'm pretty sure it's possible.
[31/12/2014, 3:32:30 PM] Remy: I have no idea what any of that meant
[31/12/2014, 3:32:33 PM] Randi Harper: if all else fails, it would still be encrypted, it would still use passwords for each person.
[31/12/2014, 3:32:54 PM] Randi Harper: um. a programmatic way to add holes in the firewall so a user can connect.
[31/12/2014, 3:34:25 PM] Randi Harper: normally when someone tries to connect to my server, there's like this invisible force field that keeps them out. everything is blocked, except for what i explicitly state can go through. i can tell it explicitly to let you connect from your home.
[31/12/2014, 3:34:32 PM] Randi Harper: i just need to make that automated so you can tell it yourself. :)
[31/12/2014, 3:34:52 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Also highly suggest anyone who can afford them pick up a YubiKey. We just ordered a few. I can help subsidize if people can't afford one. Warlord money and all.
[31/12/2014, 3:35:09 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Anyways, keep me updated regarding new room plans. Ramen time.
[31/12/2014, 3:35:12 PM] SF: Just got mine. Setting it up soon.
[31/12/2014, 3:35:24 PM] Tesseract: a what
[31/12/2014, 3:35:34 PM] SF: http://yubico.com/
[31/12/2014, 3:35:39 PM] SF: Or similar.
[31/12/2014, 3:35:50 PM] Randi Harper: isn't that just a RSA keyfob?
[31/12/2014, 3:35:55 PM] Randi Harper: you can get software versions of those for your phone for free. :P
[31/12/2014, 3:36:12 PM] Randi Harper: ... if i ever lose my phone, i am completely fucked.
[31/12/2014, 3:36:13 PM] Tesseract: also I'm not entirely clear on the pros/cons re: google/irc
[31/12/2014, 3:36:18 PM] SF: Yeah that's the problem
[31/12/2014, 3:36:20 PM] Tesseract: spell it out for me in 5 year old terms
[31/12/2014, 3:36:38 PM] Randi Harper: i'm rather curious what happens when i get a new iPhone. i use duo authenticator. what happens when i install it on the new iPhone?
[31/12/2014, 3:36:44 PM] Randi Harper: do i have to disable 2FA on everything and then set it all back up again?
[31/12/2014, 3:37:08 PM] Remy: This is the first I've heard of the yubikey
[31/12/2014, 3:39:29 PM] SF: Okay so pros of Google (anyone feel free to chime in)
[31/12/2014, 3:39:43 PM] SF: - Familiar
- Good with large convos
[31/12/2014, 3:39:52 PM] SF: - No setup
[31/12/2014, 3:39:53 PM] Remy: I don't get how I would physically use that ubikey with my phone though :/
[31/12/2014, 3:40:03 PM] Ian Cheong: I vote for Google Hangouts
[31/12/2014, 3:40:09 PM] SF: Stephen: If you get the Neo and your phone has NFC you can tap it.
[31/12/2014, 3:40:41 PM] Remy: I think it's the later iPhones that have NFC
[31/12/2014, 3:40:49 PM] Remy: Isn't that when they started rolling out with Apple Pay?
[31/12/2014, 3:40:55 PM] Ian Cheong: Google has 2FA.
[31/12/2014, 3:41:09 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: phones don't have USB ports lately?
[31/12/2014, 3:41:20 PM] Remy: no iPhones that would be too convenient
[31/12/2014, 3:41:22 PM] Ian Cheong: Depends on the phone. Iphones don't.
[31/12/2014, 3:41:24 PM] SF: You could get a converter too.
[31/12/2014, 3:41:38 PM] SF: The dongle is just a USB keyboard as far as the phone can tell.
[31/12/2014, 3:41:57 PM] SF: Cons of Google:

- Big hacking target
- Real name policy
- Lots of us are already juggling multiple accounts
[31/12/2014, 3:41:59 PM] Remy: I feel like I could just kill myself and then nobody would ever learn my passwords :/
[31/12/2014, 3:42:33 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: A- they totally would.
[31/12/2014, 3:42:59 PM] Remy: I need to just move away and become a hermit monk
[31/12/2014, 3:43:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: B- Too much real dealing with suicidal people on my end to be cool with hearing such things lately.
[31/12/2014, 3:43:34 PM] Remy: sorry
[31/12/2014, 3:43:57 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: C- Pretty sure you don't need some external deal to set up 2FA if you use a phone for everything in the first place
[31/12/2014, 3:44:18 PM] Remy: Did you know according to a recent study that a veteran leaving a mental health appointment is statistically more likely to take their own life than one who doesn't?
[31/12/2014, 3:44:46 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: one who doesn't what? Get into therapy at all?
[31/12/2014, 3:44:50 PM] Remy: Yup
[31/12/2014, 3:44:55 PM] Remy: Even the doctors are killing us
[31/12/2014, 3:44:57 PM] SF: Pros of IRC:

- Most secure option
- Variety of excellent clients available
- Familiar to some of us
- Dumber blackhats won't be looking for it like Google accounts
- 2FA unnecessary with Randi's setup
[31/12/2014, 3:45:01 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: odd
[31/12/2014, 3:45:38 PM] SF: Cons of IRC:

- Pain to set up IPs
- Less familiar to some of us
[31/12/2014, 3:45:49 PM] SF: Did I miss anything on any of those 4 lists?
[31/12/2014, 3:45:52 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: sure that's not some statistical fluke where weird hangups mean only the people really dealing with serious PTSD type stuff bother going?
[31/12/2014, 3:45:52 PM] Tesseract: well that's pretty strongly in favor of IRC
[31/12/2014, 3:46:27 PM] Tesseract: who gives a shit about it being hard to set up, if anyone's not willing to even set up an IRC client then idk what they're doing in this room
[31/12/2014, 3:46:46 PM] Ian Cheong: let's set up an IRC then
[31/12/2014, 3:46:49 PM] SF: I would agree haha.
[31/12/2014, 3:47:15 PM] Remy: SGG:  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ before that they were keeping the bulk of veterans at the VA on a secret waiting list to hide the fact that they weren't being treated as fast as required by law. Soldiers died waiting on secret waiting lists. I'm done trying to hash out whether it's malice or stupidity. I'm just done.
[31/12/2014, 3:47:56 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Well in my case, worst case scenario if I forget to switch accounts with Google, oh hey there's my real name I'm so paranoid about leaking out. Worst case for IRC is I spam you all with NPC dialog while running a Pathfinder game
[31/12/2014, 3:48:07 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 3:48:12 PM] Remy: lol
[31/12/2014, 3:48:21 PM] Remy: My concerns are eerily similar to SGG's
[31/12/2014, 3:48:46 PM] Remy: Although some of you already have my real name
[31/12/2014, 3:49:17 PM] Tesseract: is there anyone actually in favor of google over irc
[31/12/2014, 3:49:40 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): If we can make the IRC solution easy to use/setup, then I'm in favor. Otherwise, Google
[31/12/2014, 3:49:49 PM] Ian Cheong: Google is easy to keep on your phone
[31/12/2014, 3:49:52 PM] Ian Cheong: IRC not so much
[31/12/2014, 3:49:56 PM] Tesseract: what no who cares how easy it is to set up
[31/12/2014, 3:50:03 PM] Tesseract: that is the most trivial thing I can imagine
[31/12/2014, 3:50:06 PM] Ian Cheong: I care?
[31/12/2014, 3:50:10 PM] Athena Hollow: matters to me not either way. I'm always at home on my computer, I don't think my IP has changed in 6 months or more, and I don't have any real names attached to anything lol
[31/12/2014, 3:50:13 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: there's totally phone friendly IRC clients
[31/12/2014, 3:50:14 PM] Ian Cheong: Because I'm not always at my computer.
[31/12/2014, 3:50:32 PM] SF: We have spent more time talking about it just now than even the hardest option would take to set up FWIW.
[31/12/2014, 3:50:36 PM] Remy: I think IRC drains data and battery less than Skype and Google hangouts on the phone but I could be wrong
[31/12/2014, 3:50:49 PM] SF: I think Unreal Engine 4 drains less batter than Skype.
[31/12/2014, 3:50:54 PM] Remy: XD
[31/12/2014, 3:50:55 PM] Tesseract: isn't mobile skype utter shit
[31/12/2014, 3:50:55 PM] Ian Cheong: Skype is bullshit.
[31/12/2014, 3:50:59 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 3:51:01 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah
[31/12/2014, 3:51:02 PM] Tesseract: like I had it and I couldn't even turn off notifications
[31/12/2014, 3:51:11 PM] Ian Cheong: You can't turn off notifications on Skype.
[31/12/2014, 3:51:13 PM] Remy: I'll probably delete it from my phone once we make the move
[31/12/2014, 3:51:16 PM] Tesseract: I had to force close it to sleep or my friends would keep me up all night
[31/12/2014, 3:51:18 PM] Remy: What Ian said
[31/12/2014, 3:51:25 PM] Tesseract: the phone just vibrated endlessly
[31/12/2014, 3:51:35 PM] Remy: I've actually shut off this app's access to cellular data and even still when I drive around I still get updates constantly
[31/12/2014, 3:51:43 PM] SF: Sounds like my kinda phone
[31/12/2014, 3:51:46 PM] Tesseract: lol
[31/12/2014, 3:51:49 PM] Remy: I think Skype is run by data munching ghosts
[31/12/2014, 3:52:16 PM] Ian Cheong: If we move to IRC please give instructions on where to download a good IRC client
[31/12/2014, 3:52:20 PM] Tesseract: well I'm strongly in favor of irc
[31/12/2014, 3:52:34 PM] Tesseract: but I'm even more in favor of anything that is not skype
[31/12/2014, 3:53:04 PM] Remy: I'm looking up new iPhone IRC clients b/c the last one I used was Colloquy and I hear that app is shit nowadays
[31/12/2014, 3:54:10 PM] Alex Lifschitz: As long as IP locking can cope with the fact that Zoe and I are constantly on the move, sure.
[31/12/2014, 3:54:33 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Fwiw, all IRC clients on iOS are horseshit. Most agreeable is Palaver.
[31/12/2014, 3:54:46 PM] Remy: That's what it looks like
[31/12/2014, 3:54:49 PM] Ian Cheong: see that's a problem with IRC. the IP locking might screw anyone who moves around a lot.
[31/12/2014, 3:55:26 PM] SF: Is there an alternative to that Randi?
[31/12/2014, 3:55:55 PM] SF: Oh one other fringe con to IRC would be that if Randi got hit it'd take our chat down whereas they're not taking Google down.
[31/12/2014, 3:56:05 PM] Alex Lifschitz: If device locking is an option that can work for us.
[31/12/2014, 3:56:37 PM] Remy: Y'know
[31/12/2014, 3:56:40 PM] Remy: We could use both?
[31/12/2014, 3:56:45 PM] Tesseract: why
[31/12/2014, 3:56:49 PM] Remy: Google for non-serious chat for convenience and mobility
[31/12/2014, 3:56:53 PM] Remy: IRC for secure chat
[31/12/2014, 3:56:56 PM] Ian Cheong: Uhh.
[31/12/2014, 3:56:58 PM] Tesseract: no
[31/12/2014, 3:57:02 PM] Remy: nvmd then
[31/12/2014, 3:57:08 PM] Remy: Just spitballin'
[31/12/2014, 3:57:42 PM] Tesseract: yeah that would be a huge hassle and we'd abandon one of the two within a day
[31/12/2014, 3:57:53 PM] Remy: yeah you're right I'm being ridiculous x-x
[31/12/2014, 3:58:42 PM] Randi Harper: SF: the IPs won't be painful for anyone but me. and that's just some coding work i'd have to do. it would literally be going to a webpage and putting in a password to get your IP added. nothing else.
[31/12/2014, 3:59:21 PM] Randi Harper: i'm also happy to provide an easy like 5 step tutorial for using it and connecting to the right channel. although i might be able to get people to autojoin a channel.
[31/12/2014, 3:59:26 PM] Randi Harper: haven't set up an IRC server in ages.
[31/12/2014, 3:59:51 PM] Randi Harper: and it's really, really hard for anyone to get access to my server, fwiw.
[31/12/2014, 3:59:59 PM] Randi Harper: they would have to be at my apartment or my office to gain the kind of access they'd need to fuck with it.
[31/12/2014, 4:00:05 PM] SF: We could have the roleplaying room I've always dreamed of
[31/12/2014, 4:00:10 PM] Randi Harper: and then they'd need my SSH keys and my phone.
[31/12/2014, 4:00:15 PM] Tesseract: I 100% support the roleplaying room
[31/12/2014, 4:00:22 PM] Tesseract: also sounds awesome
[31/12/2014, 4:00:31 PM] Ian Cheong: can i make a quick suggestion?
[31/12/2014, 4:00:36 PM] Ian Cheong: instead of irc or google
[31/12/2014, 4:00:38 PM] Randi Harper: as far as DDoS goes, it's on AWS. randi.io hasn't been hit with any DDoS attempts so far. it seems unlikely.
[31/12/2014, 4:00:42 PM] Ian Cheong: we use Campfire
[31/12/2014, 4:00:46 PM] Ian Cheong: it has 2FA
[31/12/2014, 4:00:50 PM] Ian Cheong: I use it for business
[31/12/2014, 4:00:53 PM] Tesseract: there really can never be too much security in these because we're fucked entirely if it leaks
[31/12/2014, 4:00:56 PM] Randi Harper: or hipchat
[31/12/2014, 4:01:02 PM] Randi Harper: hipchat is free up to X number of users, i think.
[31/12/2014, 4:01:02 PM] SF: Ah DDoS was my concern, good to know.
[31/12/2014, 4:01:06 PM] Randi Harper: hipchat is fucking amazing.
[31/12/2014, 4:01:12 PM] SF: Are we fucked entirely?
[31/12/2014, 4:01:29 PM] Randi Harper: and the built-in emoji and gif support makes life wonderful.
[31/12/2014, 4:01:47 PM] SF: I mean their collusion conspiracies about a fictional Anti-GG go WAY beyond the scope of this chat.
[31/12/2014, 4:01:54 PM] Remy: I don't know if anyone has tried using Telegram
[31/12/2014, 4:02:18 PM] SF: I haven't used any of these so I can't comment.
[31/12/2014, 4:02:26 PM] Tesseract: irrelevant, we're pretty fucked if the existence of this chat comes out let alone the logs
[31/12/2014, 4:02:30 PM] Randi Harper: i use hipchat for work. it's atlassian, and i have a good working relationship with their dev team.
[31/12/2014, 4:02:46 PM] Randi Harper: i vote for hipchat. ease of use is amazing, good mobile support as well as desktop.
[31/12/2014, 4:03:07 PM] Tesseract: well it's 3am here so I hope something is figured out but I need to sleep
[31/12/2014, 4:03:08 PM] Tesseract: night
[31/12/2014, 4:03:29 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hipchat is made by Atlassian. They are a good company
[31/12/2014, 4:03:44 PM] Randi Harper: fuck it. i'm setting it up.
[31/12/2014, 4:03:50 PM] Randi Harper: any votes for a hipchat name?
[31/12/2014, 4:03:52 PM] Ian Cheong: k
[31/12/2014, 4:03:56 PM] Randi Harper: i like killallmen.hipchat.com
[31/12/2014, 4:03:58 PM] Remy: The Illuminaughty
[31/12/2014, 4:04:01 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): antigamers.
[31/12/2014, 4:04:02 PM] SF: How public is the name?
[31/12/2014, 4:04:03 PM] Ian Cheong: The Gibson
[31/12/2014, 4:04:05 PM] Randi Harper: only for us.
[31/12/2014, 4:04:12 PM] SF: What's the opposite of Burgers and Fries.
[31/12/2014, 4:04:17 PM] SF: Fish and Chips?
[31/12/2014, 4:04:21 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yes
[31/12/2014, 4:04:22 PM] Randi Harper: chips are fries. :P
[31/12/2014, 4:04:31 PM] Remy: fish and chips
[31/12/2014, 4:04:32 PM] Quinnae: Referencing that, even ironically, is probably a no-no at this point.
[31/12/2014, 4:04:37 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah
[31/12/2014, 4:04:40 PM] Remy: yeah good point
[31/12/2014, 4:04:40 PM] Quinnae: Might come off as insulting to Zoe.
[31/12/2014, 4:04:42 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): solution6
[31/12/2014, 4:04:49 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): oproguestar
[31/12/2014, 4:04:53 PM] Randi Harper: i default to ggautoblocker for everything, so if someone wants something else, tell me now. :P
[31/12/2014, 4:04:54 PM] Remy: lol no
[31/12/2014, 4:05:01 PM] SF: DARPA Skunkworks
[31/12/2014, 4:05:04 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: who is "youtube video guy"?
[31/12/2014, 4:05:07 PM] Remy: they would look for ggautoblocker
[31/12/2014, 4:05:12 PM] Randi Harper: they'd have to know we use hipchat.
[31/12/2014, 4:05:16 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Hip chat sounds good. If we end up with IRC fwiw Zoe was an IRC mod for years
[31/12/2014, 4:05:16 PM] Randi Harper: :P
[31/12/2014, 4:05:21 PM] Randi Harper: antigamers?
[31/12/2014, 4:05:25 PM] Remy: FOXDIE
[31/12/2014, 4:05:33 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): 69chan
[31/12/2014, 4:05:36 PM] SF: Chuck C Johnson Pooped on the Floor
[31/12/2014, 4:05:39 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: that I was refering to? The one explaining how he was going to murder Bri in a youtube vid
[31/12/2014, 4:05:40 PM] Quinnae: Anyway, I'm agnostic on the whole chat thing, I defer to the superior technical wisdom of folks like Randi. I need to go to bed. Body hurts.
[31/12/2014, 4:05:46 PM] Remy: ^
[31/12/2014, 4:05:48 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Weaponizedirony
[31/12/2014, 4:05:55 PM] Ian Cheong: Gaming's Feminist Illuminati
[31/12/2014, 4:05:59 PM] Remy: Except my body doesn't hurt I just like to defer to folks like Randi on tech issues
[31/12/2014, 4:06:01 PM] SF: Plastic Skulls
[31/12/2014, 4:06:03 PM] Quinnae: I'm sure I'll be able to get in touch with someone for the new details of our next hidey hole once they're available.
[31/12/2014, 4:06:06 PM] Randi Harper: has to be a hostname. not a name with spaces.
[31/12/2014, 4:06:09 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: also hey, thanks random sea lion for letting me know someone I'm blocking is defaming me
[31/12/2014, 4:06:12 PM] Ian Cheong: Oh
[31/12/2014, 4:06:13 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): sealions
[31/12/2014, 4:06:19 PM] Quinnae: (Also I vote for FeministIlluminati)
[31/12/2014, 4:06:20 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): sealions.hipchat.com
[31/12/2014, 4:06:21 PM] Quinnae: Night all.
[31/12/2014, 4:06:24 PM] Randi Harper: sealions.
[31/12/2014, 4:06:24 PM] Randi Harper: yes
[31/12/2014, 4:06:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: sleep well
[31/12/2014, 4:06:40 PM] Alex Lifschitz: GO SEA LIONS. MAKE STATE
[31/12/2014, 4:06:50 PM] Randi Harper: https://sealions.hipchat.com/invite/233742/122213427bcfb8ab910970abc4be7fe2
[31/12/2014, 4:06:54 PM] Randi Harper: go there.
[31/12/2014, 4:07:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: https://twitter.com/mylittlepwnies3/status/550198446536544257 charming!
[31/12/2014, 4:07:26 PM] Remy: SGG: That link doesn't work. Tweet already deleted?
[31/12/2014, 4:07:42 PM] Ian Cheong: Hipchat is awesome.
[31/12/2014, 4:07:47 PM] SF: > You are the 1st person from Sealions to sign up. 

aw yeah
[31/12/2014, 4:07:49 PM] Ian Cheong: Not sure why I went with CAmpfire instead of this.
[31/12/2014, 4:08:13 PM] Randi Harper: i made the room private
[31/12/2014, 4:08:16 PM] Randi Harper: so i'll have to invite people
[31/12/2014, 4:08:28 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: why are we moving from skype? just precautionary?
[31/12/2014, 4:08:35 PM] Remy: Because Skype sucks
[31/12/2014, 4:08:35 PM] Ian Cheong: skype is bullshit
[31/12/2014, 4:08:38 PM] Ian Cheong: it eats up my phone's battery life
[31/12/2014, 4:08:42 PM] Athena Hollow: all of the above lol
[31/12/2014, 4:08:47 PM] Athena Hollow: downloading the winapp
[31/12/2014, 4:08:57 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm downloading both the iOS and Mac app
[31/12/2014, 4:09:14 PM] Remy: there's a Mac app?
[31/12/2014, 4:09:15 PM] Randi Harper: you can use the webapp or get a desktop/phone app at https://sealions.hipchat.com/home
[31/12/2014, 4:09:18 PM] Randi Harper: yes.
[31/12/2014, 4:09:19 PM] Randi Harper: the apps are amazing
[31/12/2014, 4:09:22 PM] Randi Harper: i don't use web normally.
[31/12/2014, 4:09:31 PM] Remy: app store returned no results
[31/12/2014, 4:09:36 PM] Randi Harper: HIGHLY recommend the desktop app
[31/12/2014, 4:09:39 PM] Randi Harper: because you can click and drag images
[31/12/2014, 4:09:44 PM] Randi Harper: and if you paste a URL it will show the image
[31/12/2014, 4:09:47 PM] Randi Harper: including animated gifs
[31/12/2014, 4:09:57 PM] Randi Harper: there are also built-in emoticons: https://www.hipchat.com/emoticons
[31/12/2014, 4:10:04 PM] Athena Hollow: fucking hell. WHY HAVE I BEEN HAVING ISSUES INSTALLING FROM MSI'S?!
[31/12/2014, 4:11:02 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): OMG. you can @mention
[31/12/2014, 4:11:04 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): to get attention
[31/12/2014, 4:11:16 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/Kozmik_Pariah/status/550189803384614912 oh lovely they're looking into my dad
[31/12/2014, 4:11:37 PM] SF: Oh shit, they've found your identity then?
[31/12/2014, 4:12:27 PM] Randi Harper: ew the windows client is ugly
[31/12/2014, 4:12:30 PM] Randi Harper: i usually use the mac one :P
[31/12/2014, 4:12:44 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm on the MAc one
[31/12/2014, 4:12:46 PM] Ian Cheong: looks fine.
[31/12/2014, 4:13:14 PM] Randi Harper: the mac one is good
[31/12/2014, 4:13:40 PM] Randi Harper: okay so i have to be the one to invite people - until i set this up on my mac, where i can tweak the permissions. i don't seem to have quite the same level of room permissions in the windows client.
[31/12/2014, 4:13:59 PM] Randi Harper: i'll make more people owners when i get onto my mac.
[31/12/2014, 4:17:09 PM] Athena Hollow: god that was a pain in the fucking ass to get set up on win7.
[31/12/2014, 4:17:17 PM] Athena Hollow: i loathe msi installs now -_-
[31/12/2014, 4:17:25 PM] Randi Harper: i just ran it. >.>
[31/12/2014, 4:17:28 PM] Randi Harper: and it worked
[31/12/2014, 4:17:33 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: same
[31/12/2014, 4:17:42 PM] Athena Hollow: wouldn't let me. needed administrator privileges and it said nope
[31/12/2014, 4:17:45 PM] Athena Hollow: so i had to cmd it
[31/12/2014, 4:21:40 PM] Ian Cheong: So HipChat doesn't have 2FA
[31/12/2014, 4:22:24 PM] SF: Yeah, shame as it looked quite good.
[31/12/2014, 4:22:45 PM] Ian Cheong: I suggest Campfire but it requires a monthly payment of $10
[31/12/2014, 4:22:49 PM] Ian Cheong: Whcih surely we can afford.
[31/12/2014, 4:22:52 PM] Randi Harper: huh. that's weird.
[31/12/2014, 4:22:55 PM] Randi Harper: i thought hipchat had 2FA.
[31/12/2014, 4:23:04 PM] Randi Harper: ohhh
[31/12/2014, 4:23:10 PM] Randi Harper: i bet it's because it's tied to our LDAP servers at work.
[31/12/2014, 4:25:39 PM] SF: Tess's forum still sounds like a good idea too.
[31/12/2014, 4:26:33 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Once you migrate to Hipchat please purge any logs you may have.
[31/12/2014, 4:26:35 PM] Remy: Okay so we're back to Skype
[31/12/2014, 4:26:44 PM] Remy: I don't see Telegram messenger saying anything about 2FA just end-to-end encryption
[31/12/2014, 4:26:52 PM] Athena Hollow: yeah apparently hipchat doesn't have 2fa.
[31/12/2014, 4:27:11 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: so I shouldn't bother running this installer then?
[31/12/2014, 4:27:18 PM] SF: Probably not.
[31/12/2014, 4:27:19 PM] Athena Hollow: probably not.
[31/12/2014, 4:27:22 PM] SF: Skype also does end to end.
[31/12/2014, 4:27:36 PM] SF: (Backdoored by the NSA but whatever)
[31/12/2014, 4:27:41 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Oh. Nvm.
[31/12/2014, 4:28:21 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's all good. SJW's run the government
[31/12/2014, 4:28:25 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: skype uses 256 AES
[31/12/2014, 4:28:27 PM] SF: True.
[31/12/2014, 4:28:30 PM] Randi Harper: there are complications in skype
[31/12/2014, 4:28:36 PM] Randi Harper: if you've friended someone, it's trivial to get their IP address.
[31/12/2014, 4:28:40 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm going to suggest Campfire again. It supports 2FA, multiple channels, invite only--per account basis.
[31/12/2014, 4:28:58 PM] Randi Harper: osx and windows desktop clients? mobile clients?
[31/12/2014, 4:29:04 PM] Ian Cheong: checking
[31/12/2014, 4:29:28 PM] Remy: It looks like Campfire is subscription based
[31/12/2014, 4:29:39 PM] Ian Cheong: Yes it is. someone has to pay for the channel.
[31/12/2014, 4:29:51 PM] Ian Cheong: There's campfire for the iphone, everyone else has to use the web app.
[31/12/2014, 4:30:09 PM] SF: How much?
[31/12/2014, 4:30:18 PM] Ian Cheong: 10 bucks a month
[31/12/2014, 4:30:50 PM] Ian Cheong: OH I WAS WRONG
[31/12/2014, 4:30:55 PM] Ian Cheong: there are various apps for windows and mac
[31/12/2014, 4:30:59 PM] Ian Cheong: https://campfirenow.com/extras
[31/12/2014, 4:31:09 PM] Ian Cheong: android phones too
[31/12/2014, 4:32:27 PM] Ian Cheong: Aaaand they all cost money, which I understand may be prohibitive for some of you.
[31/12/2014, 4:32:30 PM] Randi Harper: they don't have an official app?
[31/12/2014, 4:32:31 PM] Randi Harper: o_O
[31/12/2014, 4:32:39 PM] Randi Harper: i don't like choices.
[31/12/2014, 4:32:55 PM] Remy: Apparently they made their own iPhone app but outside of that they are relying on 3rd party developers
[31/12/2014, 4:33:05 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: hmm
[31/12/2014, 4:33:14 PM] Ian Cheong: this one's free for Mac. http://fluidapp.com/
[31/12/2014, 4:33:24 PM] Ian Cheong: if you pay you get extra features but that's it. it's free.
[31/12/2014, 4:33:35 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: rarewolves.tumblr.com the blog of anyone anyone knows?
[31/12/2014, 4:34:04 PM] Ian Cheong: this one's free for windows https://code.google.com/p/flare-browser/
[31/12/2014, 4:34:25 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Is it pay per client or per room?
[31/12/2014, 4:34:34 PM] Ian Cheong: per server.
[31/12/2014, 4:34:39 PM] Ian Cheong: you can have several rooms.
[31/12/2014, 4:34:51 PM] SF: Don't know them.
[31/12/2014, 4:35:19 PM] Remy: Anyway if y'all don't like Campfire the Telegram app seems to actually require operating based on a phone number and authorization or something
[31/12/2014, 4:35:21 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I'm willing to foot that if Randi signs off on it re: security confidence.
[31/12/2014, 4:35:25 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: this is getting weird- https://github.com/gratipay/inside.gratipay.com/issues/118
[31/12/2014, 4:35:34 PM] Ian Cheong: https://campfirenow.com/signup
[31/12/2014, 4:35:40 PM] SF: If this is going to be worth it for sure I'll pitch in.
[31/12/2014, 4:35:43 PM] Ian Cheong: darn it, it has a chatter limit.
[31/12/2014, 4:35:56 PM] Ian Cheong: the 12/mo has a limit of 12 people in a single channel.
[31/12/2014, 4:35:58 PM] Remy: Like I just downloaded it for my phone and had to type in my number and authorize my own access
[31/12/2014, 4:36:21 PM] Alex Lifschitz: With all this headache I may toss my vote back with an engineered IRC.
[31/12/2014, 4:36:24 PM] Athena Hollow: sgg: ugh that thread devolved into regular gater talking points. shocker.
[31/12/2014, 4:36:45 PM] Ian Cheong: let me look up what 'chatters' refers to
[31/12/2014, 4:36:47 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: IRC is my preference after skype
[31/12/2014, 4:37:02 PM] Ian Cheong: What are simultaneous chatters?

Simultaneous chatters are the total number of people chatting in each room at a time. For example, 78 people may have accounts in your system, but if you’re on the Plus plan only 25 of them can be in each Campfire room at one time.

Both invited users and guest chatters count towards the simultaneous chatter limit.
[31/12/2014, 4:37:04 PM] Randi Harper: i will look into it more tonight.
[31/12/2014, 4:37:13 PM] Randi Harper: arenas right now sorry
[31/12/2014, 4:37:35 PM] Ian Cheong: we'd have to limit the channel to 25 people talking at a time for 24/mo
[31/12/2014, 4:37:50 PM] Ian Cheong: I don't think there's going to be any problem with that as long as we keep this group small.
[31/12/2014, 4:38:02 PM] SF: It'd been half an hour and Twitter still hasn't sent me a code I can set up 2FA with.
[31/12/2014, 4:38:16 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: assuming we need a non-skype alternative, what would the problems with IRC be?
[31/12/2014, 4:38:43 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Just Ian going "but myeeeeeeeh! IRC!" I think?
[31/12/2014, 4:38:52 PM] SF: Basically just the clients available.
[31/12/2014, 4:38:53 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Anyways, lemme know what we decide but know I am willing to foot the bill for Campfire. Hardly a dent in my trust fund.
[31/12/2014, 4:39:05 PM] Remy: lol
[31/12/2014, 4:39:18 PM] Remy: Well if anyone wants to try one more free client I think Telegram looks promising
[31/12/2014, 4:39:19 PM] SF: Specifically the mobile clients. But honestly they're better than Skype mobile anyway.
[31/12/2014, 4:39:37 PM] SF: And I think logging into this chat from phones is a bad idea in general.
[31/12/2014, 4:39:41 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i think IRC would be the best option after skype, if we need to move from there. since there are so many options
[31/12/2014, 4:39:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Honestly this whole conversation reminds me of every RPG group I'm in talking about what to use for maps
[31/12/2014, 4:39:55 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm fine with IRC, honestly. If we can get a secure one set up, why not.
[31/12/2014, 4:40:15 PM] Ian Cheong: Just gotta make sure the IP locking doesn't screw Zoe and Alex.
[31/12/2014, 4:40:27 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: with IRC we could have a room you need to identify to nickserv with to get in for basic security, for more serious we could set up our own ircd
[31/12/2014, 4:40:27 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Only asks:

- 2FA
- flushable logs
- not-shit clients
- dedicated servers a plus
[31/12/2014, 4:40:41 PM] Ian Cheong: Campfire has those.
[31/12/2014, 4:40:47 PM] Remy: SGG: Use Roll20 and stop arguing lol
[31/12/2014, 4:40:48 PM] Ian Cheong: All four.
[31/12/2014, 4:40:53 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: pretty sure Randi was talking about full on setting a custom server
[31/12/2014, 4:40:56 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Rad.
[31/12/2014, 4:41:10 PM] SF: Yeah it wouldn't have 2FA but it'd have IP filters.
[31/12/2014, 4:41:17 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I'll investigate when we get home.
[31/12/2014, 4:41:17 PM] SF: Ideally I'd like a device whitelist.
[31/12/2014, 4:41:28 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: also screw roll20. It does half what maptool does and doesn't let me measure as I move.
[31/12/2014, 4:41:44 PM] Athena Hollow: /cough/fantasy grounds/cough/
[31/12/2014, 4:41:45 PM] SF: I worry that an IP whitelist would be something Zoe and Alex could be harmed by since they're at risk of people going to their physical locations.
[31/12/2014, 4:42:09 PM] Randi Harper: i can do a device whitelist
[31/12/2014, 4:42:09 PM] Athena Hollow: sf: that plus password plus no room directory listing might help.
[31/12/2014, 4:42:10 PM] Randi Harper: with SSL certs
[31/12/2014, 4:42:11 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Secret Gamer Girl me have to look that up, because my saturday group actually is looking to try something new
[31/12/2014, 4:42:16 PM] Randi Harper: i think
[31/12/2014, 4:42:35 PM] SF: Oh device whitelist would be great then.
[31/12/2014, 4:43:12 PM] Ian Cheong: i dont know why but i have the music from hackers playing right now.
[31/12/2014, 4:43:27 PM] Athena Hollow: points to my name
[31/12/2014, 4:43:29 PM] Remy: lol sorry I like roll20 because it is so drama free for me to set up and play
[31/12/2014, 4:43:37 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 4:47:09 PM] Athena Hollow: alrighty folks, my kid will be up in a few hours so i need to try and get some sleep.
[31/12/2014, 4:54:43 PM] Ian Cheong: http://theralphretort.com/journos-run-patrick-klepek-leaves-giant-bomb-disgrace/
[31/12/2014, 4:54:52 PM] Ian Cheong: Journos on the Run: Patrick Klepek Leaves Giant Bomb in Disgrace - The Ralph Retort
[31/12/2014, 4:59:18 PM] Alex Lifschitz: So are we just gonna do IRC or should we be looking into Campfire?
[31/12/2014, 4:59:30 PM] SF: Randi's going to look into a device whitelist.
[31/12/2014, 4:59:35 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Kk.
[31/12/2014, 5:00:29 PM] Alex Lifschitz: But again, I'm willing to foot the bill for Campfire of it's too big a pain to kluge our needs into IRC. Just lemme know.
[31/12/2014, 5:00:54 PM] Ian Cheong: Yep. 25 a month for the number of chatters we have in here.
[31/12/2014, 5:01:08 PM] SF: What was the reason for moving off Skype again?
[31/12/2014, 5:01:12 PM] Ian Cheong: simultaneous chatters I should say.
[31/12/2014, 5:01:26 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Risk assessment. Skype is a pain and insecure.
[31/12/2014, 5:01:45 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i think if we require people to disable logging skype would be fine
[31/12/2014, 5:01:46 PM] SF: Oh right the IPs of contacts thing.
[31/12/2014, 5:01:50 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: but it's up to other people
[31/12/2014, 5:01:58 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Anyways, just PM me if we decide on Campfire. Otherwise signing off for the night probably
[31/12/2014, 5:02:06 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: night alex, take care
[31/12/2014, 5:02:11 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: thanks again
[31/12/2014, 5:02:24 PM] SF: Send Zoe our love.
[31/12/2014, 5:02:57 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: seriously, that was some extra nasty stuff tonight
[31/12/2014, 5:03:11 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah for real.
[31/12/2014, 5:03:30 PM] Ian Cheong: David Auerbach has a really punchable face.
[31/12/2014, 5:03:46 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: he was involved in this somehow?
[31/12/2014, 5:04:09 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: go look at AMiB's recent tweets
[31/12/2014, 5:04:11 PM] Ian Cheong: He's going after A Man In Black, is confusing him for someone else by that nickname who used to be a Wikipedia admin.
[31/12/2014, 5:04:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: "kek"
[31/12/2014, 5:04:32 PM] SF: Wow they're still on that dead lead
[31/12/2014, 5:06:17 PM] Remy: lol
[31/12/2014, 5:06:58 PM] Remy: I'm fine with Campfire as well and I will try to pitch in for using it when I can
[31/12/2014, 5:07:14 PM] Remy: My check from the VA was another small one so like y'all might have to wait for February's
[31/12/2014, 5:07:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: hmm?
[31/12/2014, 5:08:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh right, monthly server fees and a lack of kind delusions this'll end next month
[31/12/2014, 5:09:15 PM] Remy: Even if by some miracle we managed to stop the harassment against Zoe we would still be in it for the long haul of changing the culture around.
[31/12/2014, 5:09:56 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: sad to say, but I think completely reforming the culture is the easier goal there
[31/12/2014, 5:11:58 PM] Ian Cheong: https://np.reddit.com/comments/2qvuao/slug/cna2kg5
[31/12/2014, 5:12:05 PM] Ian Cheong: folks,  we are literal psychopaths
[31/12/2014, 5:13:35 PM] Dan Olson: I will never get over the fact that GG has repeatedly aggressively aligned itself with people who are guilty of everything they claim to be opposed to
[31/12/2014, 5:13:53 PM] SF: It was never about video games.
[31/12/2014, 5:14:01 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: It was however always about child porn
[31/12/2014, 5:14:50 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: https://gitgud.net/gamergate/gamergateop/tree/master/Operations/Operation-Disrespectful-Nod
[31/12/2014, 5:14:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Scroll all the way down
[31/12/2014, 5:15:13 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and recall that was on there from day 1, when this was on github, and they were on 4chan still
[31/12/2014, 5:15:38 PM] Remy: Yup
[31/12/2014, 5:15:39 PM] Dan Olson: I forgot about that gif
[31/12/2014, 5:15:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Everyone did, that's why I've been reminding people lately
[31/12/2014, 5:16:58 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Along with the fact that 8chan was founded a year ago pretty well exclusively as a child porn site, and yet everyone in GG somehow magically knew to go there to find new threads when they were booted off 4chon
[31/12/2014, 5:17:15 PM] Remy: Image
[31/12/2014, 5:17:20 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: like salmon, homing in on the rivers they were born in
[31/12/2014, 5:17:28 PM] Remy: Sorry but I jus thad to cage the room real quick
[31/12/2014, 5:19:35 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Come to think of it, I still have no clue why it took github to kick'em
[31/12/2014, 5:21:05 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I was e-mailing them from like, early september and getting back "what's the problem exactly? I'm still not seeing it" so I assume someone with a personal connection eventually spoke up
[31/12/2014, 5:21:43 PM] Ian Cheong: Image
[31/12/2014, 5:22:04 PM] Remy: XD
[31/12/2014, 5:22:19 PM] Remy: Ian I'm stealing that
[31/12/2014, 5:22:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: earlier one of mine was playing in a big ol' shopping bag. Got it to stand up, got to ride around a bit.
[31/12/2014, 5:41:00 PM] Alex Lifschitz: To everyone who's willing to pitch in on Campfire, no worries. I'm happy to cover the monthly cost. I'm gonna investigate it a little more before bed. If people come to a consensus by the time I wake up tomorrow, I'll set it up. I'd just like Randi's vote of confidence re: security and setting it up on her server first.
[31/12/2014, 5:41:46 PM] Remy: Just consider the cash I put down for that Reddit ad as my contribution to the Campfire fund as well pls <3
[31/12/2014, 5:41:53 PM] Remy: Since I heard that ad got pulled
[31/12/2014, 5:42:07 PM] Alex Lifschitz: yep yep
[31/12/2014, 5:42:29 PM] Alex Lifschitz: We might use that cash as a slush fund for more aggro advertisements when we have something suitable
[31/12/2014, 5:44:11 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Anyways, bed now. Night
[31/12/2014, 5:48:25 PM] Remy: nini
[31/12/2014, 6:00:00 PM] Ian Cheong: night
[31/12/2014, 7:25:33 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I wrote a thing- http://secretgamergirl.tumblr.com/post/106703392735/morality-legality-and-enforcement
[31/12/2014, 7:26:43 PM] Ian Cheong: It's sad that you needed to write that.
[31/12/2014, 7:26:56 PM] Ian Cheong: How do people not get that sexually abusing children and promoting the sexual abuse of children is a bad thing?
[31/12/2014, 7:32:22 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: A- hell if I know, B- I just spent like 2 hours answering that question and linking to it.
[31/12/2014, 7:33:01 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: it's pretty easy to mentally distance oneself from terrible shit one isn't DIRECTLY doing
[31/12/2014, 7:35:45 PM] Rob: Morning
[31/12/2014, 7:35:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: hi
[31/12/2014, 7:36:41 PM] Rob: did i miss anything while i as asleeeps
[31/12/2014, 7:37:43 PM] Ian Cheong: we are probably moving this chat to CAmpfire.
[31/12/2014, 7:37:50 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: GG found a way to make Zoe's life even worse, people decided to abandon this chat for probably IRC, and I wrote a very long blog post explaining to internet companies that contributing to the sexual abuse of toddlers is a bad thing they should stop doing.
[31/12/2014, 7:37:55 PM] Rob: Campfire?
[31/12/2014, 7:38:04 PM] Ian Cheong: yeah or IRC
[31/12/2014, 7:38:09 PM] Ian Cheong: we'll see what Randi suggests.
[31/12/2014, 7:38:13 PM] Rob: ah, ok
[31/12/2014, 7:38:19 PM] Rob: just keep me in the loop if it happens while i'm gone
[31/12/2014, 7:38:51 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: technically we're 1 person over the cap for campfire, but at least a couple people here never seem to be here, so, hey
[31/12/2014, 7:39:20 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, there's no actual limit to the number of people you can invite to the campfire, but we're 1 over the limit for simultaneous users.
[31/12/2014, 7:39:29 PM] Ian Cheong: Not a real problem since it's not like this chat is full 100% of the time
[31/12/2014, 7:42:21 PM] Ian Cheong: Did you tweet out that article, SGG?
[31/12/2014, 7:42:32 PM] Ian Cheong: So I can signal boost it
[31/12/2014, 7:42:54 PM] Ian Cheong: fuck it, ill tweet it out myself.
[31/12/2014, 7:47:59 PM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/550255940360871936
[31/12/2014, 7:48:01 PM] Ian Cheong: there you go
[31/12/2014, 7:48:46 PM] Rob: RTed
[31/12/2014, 8:03:01 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i'm still not quite getting what the problem is with skype if we disable logging?
[31/12/2014, 8:19:52 PM] Remy: Skype is just too frequently hacked
[31/12/2014, 8:20:22 PM] Remy: And the general consensus is that most of the folks here find the software eats up resources on whatever we're using
[31/12/2014, 8:20:58 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: well, changing the log retention settings would also fix the resource use
[31/12/2014, 8:21:02 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: but it's up to other people of course
[31/12/2014, 8:21:25 PM] Remy: I kept suggesting Telegram :P
[31/12/2014, 8:21:26 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: the security on skype is fine with 2FA. the only concern is just making sure people wipe their logs
[31/12/2014, 8:22:42 PM] Rob: i say we use ICQ because no one uses ICQ anymore
[31/12/2014, 8:22:52 PM] Remy: I'm just repeating what I've heard. I wouldn't mind moving to a less cumbersome medium, though, so I am going with the flow
[31/12/2014, 8:23:00 PM] Remy: lol Rob
[31/12/2014, 8:23:05 PM] Remy: Takin me back to the '90s
[31/12/2014, 8:23:18 PM] Remy: How about I make some popcorn and we go watch Beavis and Butthead Do America
[31/12/2014, 8:24:44 PM] Rob: :D
[31/12/2014, 8:24:49 PM] Rob: let's play pogs
[31/12/2014, 8:25:01 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: pogs confirmed for new chat venue
[31/12/2014, 8:25:06 PM] Rob: haha
[31/12/2014, 8:25:33 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i like how through some weird coincidence everyone in our chat almost all seems to be roughly the same ageish
[31/12/2014, 8:26:17 PM] Rob: I think Veerender is the only outlier.
[31/12/2014, 8:26:28 PM] Rob: Most of us are 27-33 or so, right?
[31/12/2014, 8:26:33 PM] Remy: yup
[31/12/2014, 8:27:02 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: 27-33 ie "the only age range in the world that remembers what pogs were"
[31/12/2014, 8:27:06 PM] Rob: haha
[31/12/2014, 8:27:19 PM] Rob: And older, too. There's a weird gap of like 10-15 years
[31/12/2014, 8:27:26 PM] Rob: "Remember alf? He's back! In pog form!"
[31/12/2014, 8:27:49 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: everything's comin up milhouse
[31/12/2014, 8:28:23 PM] Rob: :D
[31/12/2014, 9:02:40 PM] Remy: I'm tooling around on minecraft <3
[31/12/2014, 9:06:57 PM] Rob: Minecraft is fun
[31/12/2014, 10:08:34 PM] Rob: Really fucking hate this guy tweeting at me and veerender. he sent me a picture of a dead woman, too. wonder if it's the dude who used those 2 burner accounts to do that previously
[31/12/2014, 10:08:49 PM] Ian Cheong: of course it is.
[31/12/2014, 10:08:52 PM] Ian Cheong: its always the same dude.
[31/12/2014, 10:09:00 PM] Rob: Yeah
[31/12/2014, 10:11:57 PM] Ian Cheong: I despise Auerbach.
[31/12/2014, 10:12:05 PM] Ian Cheong: Fuck that guy so much.
[31/12/2014, 10:12:15 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i was gonna try to get not-so-bad at smash but i can't get the tv here working for some reason >:O
[31/12/2014, 10:12:24 PM] Ian Cheong: oh no
[31/12/2014, 10:12:38 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: am i getting old
[31/12/2014, 10:12:41 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: will all electronics confuse me
[31/12/2014, 10:12:42 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: forever
[31/12/2014, 10:12:54 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: because i am pretty sure i did everything you are supposed to do!
[31/12/2014, 10:13:22 PM] Rob: I hate a lot of people
[31/12/2014, 10:13:49 PM] Ian Cheong: Auerbach wrote nasty things about me, which he never consulted me on before writing.
[31/12/2014, 10:14:00 PM] Ian Cheong: Dude straight up parrots everything GG says
[31/12/2014, 10:14:01 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: :(
[31/12/2014, 10:14:06 PM] Ian Cheong: and does it under the guise of a legitimate journalist
[31/12/2014, 10:14:08 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i didn't know that. that's messed up
[31/12/2014, 10:14:28 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah.
[31/12/2014, 10:14:31 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm still pissed.
[31/12/2014, 10:22:06 PM] live:riotarms: Afternoon everyone
[31/12/2014, 10:22:39 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: can you make topsy analytics go back more than 1 month?
[31/12/2014, 10:22:43 PM] live:riotarms: Last day of this shitty year which I'm insanely happy about
[31/12/2014, 10:22:52 PM] Rob: ahoy hoy, knife
[31/12/2014, 10:23:17 PM] live:riotarms: Butts: I'm sure I did when I was doing those cathodedebris bits
[31/12/2014, 10:23:27 PM] live:riotarms: What you looking for?
[31/12/2014, 10:23:39 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: http://topsy.com/analytics?q1=%23gamergate&via=Topsy just wanted to see that but from the start of the HT
[31/12/2014, 10:26:25 PM] live:riotarms: No dice, looks like
[31/12/2014, 10:26:37 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: ah, ty for trying
[31/12/2014, 10:26:41 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/IjeomaOluo/status/549737116637224961 that is like my favorite tweet
[31/12/2014, 10:26:43 PM] live:riotarms: Maybe topsy pro but I've never tried it
[31/12/2014, 10:27:06 PM] Dina : headache
[31/12/2014, 10:27:08 PM] Dina : why
[31/12/2014, 10:27:37 PM] live:riotarms: So this is moving away from Skype?
[31/12/2014, 10:28:19 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: don't think we've officially decided
[31/12/2014, 10:28:26 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: my vote is still for skype + require everyone to turn off logs
[31/12/2014, 10:28:43 PM] Dina : works for me
[31/12/2014, 10:30:04 PM] live:riotarms: Not sure how I do that on the droid client
[31/12/2014, 10:30:26 PM] live:riotarms: Gotta say srn, that hashtag plummet is encouraging
[31/12/2014, 10:33:06 PM] live:riotarms: I'd vote an IRC system under a seriously boring name like golfchat or some such
[31/12/2014, 10:33:12 PM] Rob: the HT shit is misleading too b/c a lot of us who are opposed to it also use it
[31/12/2014, 10:33:24 PM] live:riotarms: Oh exactly
[31/12/2014, 10:33:25 PM] Rob: also hi dina <3
[31/12/2014, 10:33:38 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/550298634760519681
[31/12/2014, 10:33:40 PM] live:riotarms: I use that tag to sucker them in
[31/12/2014, 10:33:43 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550298641412665345
[31/12/2014, 10:34:15 PM] Dina : hi!
[31/12/2014, 10:34:38 PM] Dina : lol Sarah
[31/12/2014, 10:34:40 PM] Athena Hollow: This 'cold weather without a central heater' shit can die in a fucking fire :-/
[31/12/2014, 10:35:11 PM] live:riotarms: I lived in a flat with no heating for four years because I'm a fucking idiot
[31/12/2014, 10:35:58 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): b00nes is such an idiot
[31/12/2014, 10:36:16 PM] live:riotarms: Think I have him blocked
[31/12/2014, 10:36:34 PM] Athena Hollow: Our furnace broke a few years ago (which is fine because it's gas and cost us $60 on months we didn't use it, and $300+ on months we need heat plus $150 electric O______O) but the past few winters minus a couple days weren't unbearable w/ the electric heaters & radiator we have...
[31/12/2014, 10:36:40 PM] Athena Hollow: but today .... fffffffuuuuuu cold.
[31/12/2014, 10:37:12 PM] live:riotarms: I'm considering writing "this is why gamergate is impotent in 2015" and sticking it on medium tomorrow
[31/12/2014, 10:37:22 PM] Athena Hollow: fucking indiana and shitty windchill -_-
[31/12/2014, 10:37:45 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's freezing over here in Seattle, too. Windchill
[31/12/2014, 10:37:47 PM] live:riotarms: If anyone wants to suggest bullet points
[31/12/2014, 10:38:11 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Plz plz call them out on their "anti-gamer" and "pro-corruption" labels.
[31/12/2014, 10:38:15 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): it's so absurd
[31/12/2014, 10:38:19 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): and hilarious
[31/12/2014, 10:38:19 PM] live:riotarms: 1 would be "they've pissed off everyone influential"
[31/12/2014, 10:38:45 PM] live:riotarms: 2 they've united disperate subcultures against them
[31/12/2014, 10:39:01 PM] Dina : barf
[31/12/2014, 10:39:11 PM] Athena Hollow: the only havens they have are some of the scum of the earth
[31/12/2014, 10:39:26 PM] live:riotarms: 3 they're just a great way of identifying people who've harassed them for years
[31/12/2014, 10:39:39 PM] live:riotarms: 4 8chan is going doooown
[31/12/2014, 10:39:57 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): 5. Not enough Kiwikkus
[31/12/2014, 10:40:02 PM] Athena Hollow: hah
[31/12/2014, 10:40:07 PM] Rob: it's pretty warm here. 34, windchill of 27
[31/12/2014, 10:40:22 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Seriously. They shun every memeber who is like Kiwikku and actually trying to do something positive
[31/12/2014, 10:40:23 PM] Athena Hollow: god, i almost want to lionize kiwikku
[31/12/2014, 10:40:24 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 10:40:25 PM] live:riotarms: On that point I want to stress the leader of 8chan has fled the country, they've been busted for child porn and their Paetron is gone
[31/12/2014, 10:40:56 PM] Dina : hot wheels fled the country...?
[31/12/2014, 10:41:03 PM] live:riotarms: But yeah 5 they've only got assholes on their side
[31/12/2014, 10:41:08 PM] Rob: Yea dina
[31/12/2014, 10:41:11 PM] Dina : this whole thing is a mexican soap opera
[31/12/2014, 10:41:19 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah. to the Philipines
[31/12/2014, 10:41:23 PM] Dina : minus the likable goofiness
[31/12/2014, 10:41:37 PM] Dina : oh God as if the Phillipines didn't have enough gross white men shitting it up
[31/12/2014, 10:41:40 PM] Athena Hollow: and no one w/ multiple amnesia
[31/12/2014, 10:41:46 PM] live:riotarms: He's fled to a sex tourism location and he's already being photographed with seriously young looking girls
[31/12/2014, 10:41:50 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Dina, that's one theory
[31/12/2014, 10:41:52 PM] Dina : lol Athena you get me
[31/12/2014, 10:41:52 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah
[31/12/2014, 10:41:58 PM] Athena Hollow: <3
[31/12/2014, 10:42:08 PM] Dina : yeah why am I not surprised
[31/12/2014, 10:42:46 PM] live:riotarms: Oh, I'd need to stress that the hashtag is failing and then emails have failed
[31/12/2014, 10:42:58 PM] Athena Hollow: i wanna know how a 19/20 y/o formerly ward of the state kid affords that big of a move
[31/12/2014, 10:43:15 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah the picture is seriously creepy
[31/12/2014, 10:43:17 PM] Athena Hollow: especially after seeing that article about him from last april or whatever
[31/12/2014, 10:43:18 PM] live:riotarms: He's going to work with 2ch is what I heard
[31/12/2014, 10:43:28 PM] live:riotarms: Which article was this?
[31/12/2014, 10:43:34 PM] Athena Hollow: where he supposedly had $5k stolen from him that was going to go to a new wheelchair
[31/12/2014, 10:43:35 PM] Athena Hollow: one sec
[31/12/2014, 10:43:46 PM] Rob: my guess? he sells child porn
[31/12/2014, 10:44:02 PM] live:riotarms: Yeah it seems likely doesn't it
[31/12/2014, 10:44:30 PM] live:riotarms: I wonder if he's using the public donations to cover for big private kickbacks
[31/12/2014, 10:44:33 PM] Dina : so now he's in the Phillipines making a new batch?
[31/12/2014, 10:44:36 PM] Athena Hollow: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/22/nyregion/after-leaving-victim-in-the-cold-the-police-work-to-make-it-right.html?_r=1
[31/12/2014, 10:44:40 PM] Dina : I'm... I'm really really sad now
[31/12/2014, 10:44:45 PM] live:riotarms: live:riotarms vomits
[31/12/2014, 10:44:48 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): The whole thing is fucked up.
[31/12/2014, 10:45:08 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hotwheels is a horrible person. his disability is not an excuse or free pass
[31/12/2014, 10:46:08 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: rofl did you see the picture they made of him
[31/12/2014, 10:46:27 PM] Rob: He's the sort of person who if he got hit by a bus I'd say that driver deserves a promotion
[31/12/2014, 10:46:42 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarah, there are so many. which one?
[31/12/2014, 10:46:43 PM] live:riotarms: Man that article made me sad
[31/12/2014, 10:46:54 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: let me see if i can find it
[31/12/2014, 10:47:19 PM] live:riotarms: I've got a minor disability but I'm also six foot five and big so I'm not a typical target for violence
[31/12/2014, 10:47:36 PM] live:riotarms: But this kid obviously is
[31/12/2014, 10:47:44 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: Image
[31/12/2014, 10:48:36 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh yeah. that one. SPIN SPIN SPIN
[31/12/2014, 10:49:01 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I wasn't even aware Bri was "leading the pack" in this against 8chan? It's pretty much everyone
[31/12/2014, 10:49:06 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: asking patreon to cut off funding for child porn = LITERALLY ATTEMPTED MURDER BASED ON ABLEISM!!11
[31/12/2014, 10:49:11 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah
[31/12/2014, 10:49:22 PM] live:riotarms: What was his job before that?
[31/12/2014, 10:49:31 PM] Dina : I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire tbh
[31/12/2014, 10:49:32 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: he was a software dev
[31/12/2014, 10:49:39 PM] live:riotarms: Ah
[31/12/2014, 10:49:50 PM] live:riotarms: Work from home deal?
[31/12/2014, 10:50:07 PM] Rob: <3 dina
[31/12/2014, 10:50:15 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah there was a mini documentary about him from some place
[31/12/2014, 10:50:16 PM] Dina : <3
[31/12/2014, 10:51:03 PM] live:riotarms: Work from home web developer sounds like a sweet gig
[31/12/2014, 10:51:24 PM] Dina : mini documentary about the worst person alive since Pol Pot
[31/12/2014, 10:51:45 PM] Remy: So if he can't have child porn he will literally die?
[31/12/2014, 10:51:50 PM] Remy: 'cause I can live with that
[31/12/2014, 10:51:54 PM] Dina : LITERALLY
[31/12/2014, 10:51:58 PM] live:riotarms: I get that he's a bad person but his life is also basically videodrome
[31/12/2014, 10:52:09 PM] Athena Hollow: that moment when being a drug kingpen would be a step up.....
[31/12/2014, 10:52:18 PM] Remy: lol
[31/12/2014, 10:52:19 PM] Remy: So many steps up
[31/12/2014, 10:52:41 PM] Remy: Brennan makes pimps look like honest, hard working folk
[31/12/2014, 10:53:07 PM] live:riotarms: I'm not going to look it up because I don't want to spend my NYE fighting off panic attacks about disability body horror but I guess he won't be around for long
[31/12/2014, 10:53:34 PM] Remy: let's just try and make it through today without any panic attacks
[31/12/2014, 10:53:39 PM] Dina : that sucks for him but I wish he didn't spend his limited time on earth fostering child pornographers
[31/12/2014, 10:53:42 PM] Remy: Which for me is a long shot but I hope it's better for the rest of you
[31/12/2014, 10:54:03 PM] live:riotarms: Yeah, I agree
[31/12/2014, 10:54:19 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: someone linked me leelah alcorn's twitter. apparently she spoke out about GG back in october, had RT'd fem freq etc. that's... really depressing. makes me feel like we were this close to being able to reach out to her :\
[31/12/2014, 10:54:31 PM] Remy: wow
[31/12/2014, 10:54:33 PM] Dina : :(
[31/12/2014, 10:54:33 PM] Athena Hollow: damn :-/
[31/12/2014, 10:54:42 PM] Ian Cheong: oh god dammit
[31/12/2014, 10:54:43 PM] Remy: I don't wanna see her TL I'll just get sad all over again
[31/12/2014, 10:54:43 PM] Ian Cheong: thats depressing
[31/12/2014, 10:54:44 PM] live:riotarms: I've just had a tiny glimpse of the machine that made him and it horrifies me
[31/12/2014, 10:54:50 PM] Rob: Ugh. damn.
[31/12/2014, 10:54:53 PM] live:riotarms: :(
[31/12/2014, 10:54:59 PM] Remy: I'm still not sure if I invaded her privacy by linking her suicide note for that newspaper to get her gender right
[31/12/2014, 10:55:22 PM] live:riotarms: That note was her voice
[31/12/2014, 10:55:24 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: she wanted that note public
[31/12/2014, 10:55:27 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah
[31/12/2014, 10:55:28 PM] Remy: That was what I told myself
[31/12/2014, 10:55:28 PM] Athena Hollow: yup
[31/12/2014, 10:55:37 PM] Remy: But now their parents are getting awful abuse
[31/12/2014, 10:55:40 PM] Remy: I mean I was furious at those parents but
[31/12/2014, 10:56:02 PM] Dina : why can't people just not bully
[31/12/2014, 10:56:03 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: no, as a trans person i was furious at the parents and i'm still furious at anyone that would harass them. it's not the time or place, obviously
[31/12/2014, 10:56:07 PM] Remy: Life is always so complicated. It's always so hard to figure out the right thing to do
[31/12/2014, 10:56:13 PM] Dina : I hate her parents too but what does bullying them accomplish
[31/12/2014, 10:56:22 PM] Athena Hollow: yeah not cool the ppl actively targeting the parents, but yeah, they're shitty parents and people.
[31/12/2014, 10:56:50 PM] Remy: I dunno
[31/12/2014, 10:56:57 PM] live:riotarms: At the same time it's important for future trans teens and current ones she isn't erased in death
[31/12/2014, 10:56:58 PM] Remy: When I first heard the story I was so mad
[31/12/2014, 10:57:16 PM] Athena Hollow: i can't imagine being that much more concerned about outward appearances to fellow church folk than my own daughter :-/ Just...fuckin hell.
[31/12/2014, 10:57:26 PM] Dina : yep, awful people
[31/12/2014, 10:57:33 PM] live:riotarms: I used to be a dumb cis guy about this shit and I felt terrible yesterday
[31/12/2014, 10:58:19 PM] live:riotarms: I truly believe any kind of transphobia contributes to the suicide rate, shit like South Park, dumb jokes, etc
[31/12/2014, 10:58:21 PM] Athena Hollow: but yeah, I am not ok with the way people have been treating her parents no matter how sucky.
[31/12/2014, 10:58:33 PM] Rob: Agreed, knife
[31/12/2014, 10:58:44 PM] Rob: Like I was pretty awfully transphobic up until 2010 or so
[31/12/2014, 10:59:27 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i think stuff like south park is complicated. like, the recent episode.. i had no problem with the episode itself. the creators didn't cross any lines. the problem is the audience is largely fucking stupid as shit, and the nuanced difference between what they're saying and what the audience THINKS they're saying is so easily muddled
[31/12/2014, 10:59:40 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i think SP is irresponsible, but not transphobic. if that makes sense
[31/12/2014, 10:59:56 PM] Remy: The earlier episodes were blatantly transphobic
[31/12/2014, 10:59:56 PM] live:riotarms: Well the Ms Garrison arc was
[31/12/2014, 11:00:01 PM] Remy: The latest ones, not so much?
[31/12/2014, 11:00:08 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah i mostly meant the recent one
[31/12/2014, 11:00:09 PM] Dina : yeah SP has a history of transphobia
[31/12/2014, 11:00:25 PM] Athena Hollow: They at least appear to be learning which is a step in the right direction.
[31/12/2014, 11:00:38 PM] Remy: And yet their latest episodes were still able to be received and interpreted as "oh, transgender - transtrender, they just want to be trendy"
[31/12/2014, 11:00:41 PM] Athena Hollow: Like, I don't think you could drag an "I'm sorry we were shitty" out of them with any amount of torture lol
[31/12/2014, 11:00:42 PM] Rob: It's weird, too, because for everything they get right - like the majority of the 'go god go' episodes, they do horribly transphobic shit - like ms. garrison
[31/12/2014, 11:00:54 PM] Rob: Although knowing what dawkins has said, his reaction in that situation is probably what would happen
[31/12/2014, 11:00:59 PM] Athena Hollow: but they are willfully ignorant as shit to a lot of stuff for the lulz.
[31/12/2014, 11:02:26 PM] live:riotarms: Like, GTA has two tiny transphobic easter eggs
[31/12/2014, 11:02:30 PM] live:riotarms: The new one
[31/12/2014, 11:02:44 PM] live:riotarms: A truck texture and some trans sex workers
[31/12/2014, 11:03:13 PM] live:riotarms: Imagine drawing up an asset spreadsheet for a transphobic joke 5% of players will catch
[31/12/2014, 11:03:40 PM] live:riotarms: Totally fucked
[31/12/2014, 11:03:49 PM] Rob: I'm torn between saying 'that makes it even more disgusting' and 'at least more people won't see it'
[31/12/2014, 11:04:00 PM] Athena Hollow: but then... the internet exists
[31/12/2014, 11:04:04 PM] Athena Hollow: so everyone will see it -_-
[31/12/2014, 11:04:23 PM] Rob: Yeah...
[31/12/2014, 11:04:41 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah stuff like that is bizarre. like... why include it at all. it adds nothing of substance and just alienates people. like the bayonetta 2 rape joke thing :\
[31/12/2014, 11:04:45 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/Lotoc2/status/550304536972513281 welp
[31/12/2014, 11:05:17 PM] Athena Hollow: god they overreact to the dumbest fucking shit
[31/12/2014, 11:06:22 PM] Dina : wait
[31/12/2014, 11:06:28 PM] Dina : there's a Bayonetta 2 rape joke
[31/12/2014, 11:06:30 PM] Dina : ?
[31/12/2014, 11:06:32 PM] live:riotarms: The sad thing about this suicide is it's going to be the only thing that will make borderline allies listen
[31/12/2014, 11:06:34 PM] Athena Hollow: grossly, yes.
[31/12/2014, 11:06:45 PM] Dina : I guess I didn't get to it yet
[31/12/2014, 11:06:50 PM] live:riotarms: The bayonetta thing is gross but that boss fight is consensual
[31/12/2014, 11:06:51 PM] Athena Hollow: (wow that statement works for both what Dina & Knife said heh)
[31/12/2014, 11:07:26 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: it is, james? i hadn't played it. the scene made it certainly look like it is, though
[31/12/2014, 11:07:31 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: dina: it's a fail state
[31/12/2014, 11:07:34 PM] live:riotarms: So it's dumb and awful and triggering but not quite as awful as it could be?
[31/12/2014, 11:08:00 PM] live:riotarms: That boss is in both games and he's one of Bayonetta's male friends
[31/12/2014, 11:08:06 PM] Dina : :(
[31/12/2014, 11:08:08 PM] live:riotarms: I believe
[31/12/2014, 11:08:58 PM] live:riotarms: I mean it's still awful because that's what the devs think friends with benefits is
[31/12/2014, 11:09:17 PM] Dina : PG folks are generally pretty good
[31/12/2014, 11:09:20 PM] Rob: I've never had friends with benefits so the concept is a bit alien to me
[31/12/2014, 11:09:25 PM] Dina : except that one fucking guy
[31/12/2014, 11:09:26 PM] Dina : JP
[31/12/2014, 11:09:31 PM] Dina : what a gross motherfucker
[31/12/2014, 11:09:37 PM] Dina : calls himself a feminist
[31/12/2014, 11:09:47 PM] Rob: I just picture sex and then being like 'so did you see the latest episode of Brooklyn nine-nine?' immediately after completing coitus
[31/12/2014, 11:10:06 PM] Athena Hollow: Rob: not innaccurate
[31/12/2014, 11:10:16 PM] Athena Hollow: replace that with Doctor Who and welcome to my life ^_^
[31/12/2014, 11:10:20 PM] Rob: haha
[31/12/2014, 11:10:42 PM] live:riotarms: Hideki is gross as hell and calls women babes but he slams gaters hard, I'm so confused
[31/12/2014, 11:10:57 PM] Rob: It's weird, I love peter capaldi as the doctor but hate the new season
[31/12/2014, 11:11:08 PM] live:riotarms: What I love about Doctor Who right now is it's a defacto Rick And Morty rip off
[31/12/2014, 11:11:10 PM] Athena Hollow: i am back and forth on it, but yes, adore him.
[31/12/2014, 11:11:21 PM] Dina : oh Japanese men in general are on their own level of cognitive dissonance
[31/12/2014, 11:11:21 PM] Athena Hollow: havent seen the xmas special yet
[31/12/2014, 11:11:25 PM] Dina : sorry if that's racist
[31/12/2014, 11:11:30 PM] Athena Hollow: I've heard.
[31/12/2014, 11:11:32 PM] Dina : but in 5 years of living there
[31/12/2014, 11:11:38 PM] live:riotarms: Island nation thinking
[31/12/2014, 11:11:43 PM] Dina : yeah as a society men are pretty fucking awful to women
[31/12/2014, 11:11:43 PM] Athena Hollow: It's especially prevalent among the upper class, is it not?
[31/12/2014, 11:11:51 PM] live:riotarms: They're like us Brits
[31/12/2014, 11:12:03 PM] Dina : classes are not as much of a thing in Japan
[31/12/2014, 11:12:12 PM] Dina : everyone is more or less equally sexist
[31/12/2014, 11:12:14 PM] Athena Hollow: sorry by class I mean more the bosses lol
[31/12/2014, 11:12:20 PM] Dina : like compliment my tits at work sexist
[31/12/2014, 11:12:24 PM] Athena Hollow: O________________________________o
[31/12/2014, 11:12:27 PM] Dina : ^this is considered normal
[31/12/2014, 11:12:35 PM] Athena Hollow: .....
[31/12/2014, 11:12:37 PM] Athena Hollow: sooooooooooooooooooo
[31/12/2014, 11:12:41 PM] Athena Hollow: avoiding Japan. Gotcha. LOL
[31/12/2014, 11:12:46 PM] live:riotarms: Birth rate is through the floor isn't it
[31/12/2014, 11:12:47 PM] Rob: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[31/12/2014, 11:12:52 PM] Dina : like 40 year old coworker calling me at night crying because he overheard me say I was going on a date
[31/12/2014, 11:12:58 PM] Dina : and he thinks we should be together
[31/12/2014, 11:13:04 PM] live:riotarms: Oh god
[31/12/2014, 11:13:22 PM] Rob: WTF
[31/12/2014, 11:13:26 PM] Dina : then shaving his head the next day and telling other coworkers it's to make me feel guilty for rejecting him : D
[31/12/2014, 11:13:33 PM] live:riotarms: Way to be sexy and attractive, 40 year old dude
[31/12/2014, 11:13:39 PM] Dina : and sending them endless texts complaining about me : D
[31/12/2014, 11:13:54 PM] Dina : making my whole work environment somehow worse : D
[31/12/2014, 11:13:59 PM] Rob: "MY TEARS ARE A NATURAL APHRODESIAC" - Dina's creepy fucking awful coworker
[31/12/2014, 11:14:14 PM] Dina : and then when I tell the Producer, he says to get over it and I could "ruin his life" with this : D
[31/12/2014, 11:14:26 PM] Dina : and "take it as a compliment, he eventually backed off" : D
[31/12/2014, 11:14:32 PM] live:riotarms: Ugh
[31/12/2014, 11:14:36 PM] Rob: I'd stab people.
[31/12/2014, 11:14:49 PM] Dina : yeah I hate the Producer of MN9 more than life itself
[31/12/2014, 11:15:03 PM] Dina : "don't block people who insult you and be nice to them" Producer
[31/12/2014, 11:15:10 PM] Dina : this is on the MN9 forums
[31/12/2014, 11:15:15 PM] Dina : where I have to work everyday
[31/12/2014, 11:15:30 PM] live:riotarms: Oh damn I'm dumb, I just realised why your name was familiar
[31/12/2014, 11:15:34 PM] Rob: keiji inafune? blah
[31/12/2014, 11:15:58 PM] Dina : no, a rookie called Nick Yu
[31/12/2014, 11:16:01 PM] Rob: Oh
[31/12/2014, 11:16:06 PM] Dina : no game dev experience until comcept
[31/12/2014, 11:16:11 PM] Rob: Okay I was like
[31/12/2014, 11:16:15 PM] Rob: wtf? inafune? that makes me sad
[31/12/2014, 11:16:25 PM] Dina : first shipped game was Yaiba Ninja Gaiden Z
[31/12/2014, 11:16:44 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: hahaha wtf at the shaving guy story dina x-x
[31/12/2014, 11:16:46 PM] Rob: I always wonder - would people like Yu's tune change if the posts were about them?
[31/12/2014, 11:16:47 PM] Dina : Inafune is regular old man sexist but otherwise a complete sweetie and a great supportive boss
[31/12/2014, 11:16:47 PM] live:riotarms: I heard that's bad
[31/12/2014, 11:17:05 PM] Rob: Like if the forums were flooded with "Nick Yu has a small penis and is a convicted dog fucker"
[31/12/2014, 11:17:22 PM] Dina : Yaiba: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BuVfeDhQHI
[31/12/2014, 11:17:27 PM] Dina : please watch this teaser
[31/12/2014, 11:17:35 PM] Dina : it tells you all you need to know about my job
[31/12/2014, 11:17:35 PM] Rob: Watching
[31/12/2014, 11:17:47 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: so are you saying the way to a woman's heart is NOT to call her at 3 in the morning when you barely know her, crying, and shave your head the next day???
[31/12/2014, 11:17:51 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts takes down notes
[31/12/2014, 11:17:54 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i've been doing this all wwrong
[31/12/2014, 11:18:08 PM] Dina : if YOU do it, Sarah, it'd be more likely to work :3
[31/12/2014, 11:18:21 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i'd look like a weirdo with a shaved head ;-;; haha
[31/12/2014, 11:18:35 PM] Dina : yeah it didn't look good on him either trust me
[31/12/2014, 11:19:29 PM] Rob: wow.
[31/12/2014, 11:19:30 PM] Rob: this is. wow.
[31/12/2014, 11:19:47 PM] live:riotarms: I'm sort of sad Japanese game dev is how it is right now but I guess it was always a dinosaur feeding my inner child
[31/12/2014, 11:19:52 PM] Rob: this is like "FOURTEEN-YEAR OLD BOY'S WET DREAM: THE GAME"
[31/12/2014, 11:20:15 PM] Dina : HOW MUCH MISOGYNY CAN WE PACK INTO ONE GAME: THE TRAILER
[31/12/2014, 11:20:18 PM] Rob: seriously
[31/12/2014, 11:21:12 PM] Dina : so yeah there was no way my "SJW erotic aura" was ever going to make a difference at comcept, which makes the proto-GG shitstorm when I got hired that much worse tbh
[31/12/2014, 11:21:40 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: it's strange. because in some ways japanese games can be totally refreshing relative to like american AAA games in terms of representation of women
[31/12/2014, 11:21:44 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: like in RPGs and whatnot
[31/12/2014, 11:21:59 PM] Rob: it's so infuriating too b/c you're one of the sweetest and nicest people ever
[31/12/2014, 11:22:00 PM] Remy: That's the weirdest story ever Dina
[31/12/2014, 11:22:06 PM] Remy: You need to find a job where sane people work
[31/12/2014, 11:22:16 PM] Rob: I remember when I was doing really poorly at the beginning of the year and you were DMing me to make sure I was okay and stuff, and we hadn't really talked or anything
[31/12/2014, 11:22:32 PM] Rob: You're fucking incredibly kind and these people are just total fucking shit demons
[31/12/2014, 11:23:03 PM] live:riotarms: This game looks like someone played No More Heroes after having their sense of irony surgically removed
[31/12/2014, 11:23:03 PM] Remy: This whole planet is just a giant crazy factory
[31/12/2014, 11:23:24 PM] Remy: I can't get this damn Minecraft elevator to work
[31/12/2014, 11:23:25 PM] live:riotarms: And thought Travis had all the right moves
[31/12/2014, 11:23:51 PM] live:riotarms: (I liked No More Heroes, mind)
[31/12/2014, 11:24:46 PM] Dina : Rob you're amazing
[31/12/2014, 11:24:55 PM] Dina : and you stood up for me when you had no idea who I was
[31/12/2014, 11:25:00 PM] Rob: pft >_<
[31/12/2014, 11:25:01 PM] Dina : so I should be thanking you <3
[31/12/2014, 11:25:03 PM] Remy: This yaiba thing looks nothing like the ninja gaiden I remember?
[31/12/2014, 11:25:09 PM] Rob: Rob kicks rocks. >_<
[31/12/2014, 11:25:10 PM] Remy: And did he just say "sugar tits"?
[31/12/2014, 11:25:10 PM] Dina : yyyyeeeep
[31/12/2014, 11:25:16 PM] Dina : YYYEEEEP
[31/12/2014, 11:25:26 PM] Dina : EXCELLENT WRITING BY COMCEPT
[31/12/2014, 11:25:27 PM] Remy: Murder everyone involved in the making of this trailer. Possibly the game.
[31/12/2014, 11:25:29 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: rofl
[31/12/2014, 11:25:31 PM] Remy: Nobody will miss them
[31/12/2014, 11:25:36 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 11:25:38 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i had a crush on this british girl that used to call me sugar tits ;-;;
[31/12/2014, 11:25:43 PM] Rob: But dina, you arew welcome and thank you so, <3
[31/12/2014, 11:25:43 PM] Remy: But save whoever was in charge of the dialogue for me
[31/12/2014, 11:25:49 PM] Remy: I want them to myself
[31/12/2014, 11:25:51 PM] Dina : XD
[31/12/2014, 11:26:09 PM] Dina : for the lols: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/editorials/reviews/11163-Yaiba-Ninja-Gaiden-Z-Review-A-Load-Of-Friggin-Crap
[31/12/2014, 11:26:20 PM] Dina : the last paragraph in that is Sterling just NAILING IT
[31/12/2014, 11:26:28 PM] Remy: Seriously he finishes the trailer by crashing a bus into a giant replica of a woman's spread legs
[31/12/2014, 11:26:41 PM] Rob: Dude, I know. it's so sick
[31/12/2014, 11:26:59 PM] Rob: I fucking live jim sterling.
[31/12/2014, 11:27:01 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: is it bad i saw yaiba on TB's channel before i realized how much of an ass he was
[31/12/2014, 11:27:01 PM] Remy: Wow even the Escapist doesn't like it
[31/12/2014, 11:27:03 PM] Rob: love, rather.
[31/12/2014, 11:27:07 PM] Remy: Oh no wonder it's Jim Sterling
[31/12/2014, 11:27:12 PM] Remy: So glad he got out of that slimepit
[31/12/2014, 11:27:28 PM] Rob: You know what I find hilarious?
[31/12/2014, 11:27:29 PM] Dina : Stephen: HUMOR
[31/12/2014, 11:27:31 PM] Dina : FSHOOJAOASD
[31/12/2014, 11:27:35 PM] Dina : PANTIES FUNNY
[31/12/2014, 11:27:37 PM] Dina : BOOBS
[31/12/2014, 11:27:40 PM] Dina : POOPIE
[31/12/2014, 11:27:43 PM] Ian Cheong: you folks have no idea why he quit
[31/12/2014, 11:27:44 PM] Dina : WIMINS FUCK
[31/12/2014, 11:27:45 PM] Rob: Gamergate is so fucking toxic that it's even made people like Spoony rip the shit out of them
[31/12/2014, 11:28:02 PM] Dina : Ian nope not a clue also hi and Happy New Year!
[31/12/2014, 11:28:06 PM] Rob: I have no idea, ian
[31/12/2014, 11:28:09 PM] Ian Cheong: happy new year!
[31/12/2014, 11:28:14 PM] Rob: OMG THAT'S RIGHT YOU GUYS ARE IN 2015 NOW, RIGHT?!
[31/12/2014, 11:28:18 PM] Ian Cheong: 30 mins
[31/12/2014, 11:28:21 PM] Ian Cheong: 30 mins from now
[31/12/2014, 11:28:25 PM] Rob: Ohhh
[31/12/2014, 11:29:57 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: where do you live, ian?
[31/12/2014, 11:30:05 PM] Ian Cheong: malaysia
[31/12/2014, 11:30:18 PM] live:riotarms: I hate this faux grindhouse shit and it's kinda Suda's fault isn't it
[31/12/2014, 11:30:30 PM] Dina : friends worked with Suda
[31/12/2014, 11:30:34 PM] Dina : he is a fucking monster
[31/12/2014, 11:30:37 PM] Dina : lol
[31/12/2014, 11:30:50 PM] live:riotarms: You know Tim Rogers by any chance
[31/12/2014, 11:30:54 PM] Dina : he once had a freakout about his sandals
[31/12/2014, 11:31:02 PM] Dina : Tim Rogers... nope
[31/12/2014, 11:31:17 PM] live:riotarms: Ah, I knew this guy at GH
[31/12/2014, 11:31:23 PM] Ian Cheong: i know tim rogers
[31/12/2014, 11:32:17 PM] Rob: I think the thing I'm really afraid of finding out is like... the Toys for Bob guys or Chris Avellone or Feargus Urquhart or David Gaider or Josh Sawyer or Tim Cain are all evil people who are in a murder cult
[31/12/2014, 11:33:23 PM] Rob: YAY
[31/12/2014, 11:33:47 PM] Rob: I mean, I know most of them are good people or have said a lot of pro-feminist stuff in the past
[31/12/2014, 11:33:52 PM] Rob: But it's one of my secret fears, you know?
[31/12/2014, 11:33:54 PM] live:riotarms: Apparently at one point Kojima Pro were telling people not to discuss any details of MGS4 because he was a walking leak
[31/12/2014, 11:33:56 PM] Remy: Surprise surprise
[31/12/2014, 11:34:10 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: charloppe's been really sad a lot of her favorite youtubers were pro gg creeps
[31/12/2014, 11:34:16 PM] Dina : yeah I heard that
[31/12/2014, 11:34:25 PM] Dina : also he kept getting them into trouble with the Quiet stuff
[31/12/2014, 11:34:28 PM] live:riotarms: I'm thinking of doing youtubes in 2015
[31/12/2014, 11:34:30 PM] Rob: That sucks, Sarah :C
[31/12/2014, 11:34:38 PM] Dina : Sarah, I used to love Jontron
[31/12/2014, 11:34:42 PM] Rob: I fucking hate youtube, but I need to do more videos soon.
[31/12/2014, 11:34:42 PM] Dina : DON'T JUDGE ME
[31/12/2014, 11:34:59 PM] live:riotarms: Trying to work out a list of "don'ts"
[31/12/2014, 11:35:05 PM] Dina : now until he gives me a reason I'm all about PBG
[31/12/2014, 11:35:21 PM] Remy: I actually always hated most of those YT "celebrities" just b/c I'm antisocial so watching them all line up to support GG just made me feel good for preemptively hating them
[31/12/2014, 11:35:25 PM] live:riotarms: Gamergate is helping with the don'ts
[31/12/2014, 11:35:28 PM] Athena Hollow: the closest I've gotten to "a fan of someone on youtube" is that I've seen like 5 green bros vids LOL
[31/12/2014, 11:35:36 PM] Rob: Knife, watch thunderf00t videos for another big list of 'dont's
[31/12/2014, 11:35:40 PM] Rob: or the amazing atheist.
[31/12/2014, 11:35:41 PM] Remy: Which isn't to say that I hate everyone on YT, just the ones that don't do anything entertaining or informative or interesting
[31/12/2014, 11:35:53 PM] live:riotarms: I liked Bro Team until they started trying to raise funds for Eron
[31/12/2014, 11:35:57 PM] Athena Hollow: like, before GG i had no fucking clue who any of these people were.
[31/12/2014, 11:36:02 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i'm more picky with what i like. stuff like errant signal i love. i wish there was more like that. extra credits, pbs idea channel, etc. and none of them seem like they'd ever be pro gg haha
[31/12/2014, 11:36:20 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: bro team posted/rt'd some dox of zoe iirc
[31/12/2014, 11:36:37 PM] Athena Hollow: I knew yt was a cesspit, but didnt realize that was partially due to the ppl posting videos. I knew of annoying yters but didnt know about the fucked up ones.
[31/12/2014, 11:36:43 PM] live:riotarms: Yeah, a gater summoned them to my mentions and he was trying to be reasonable
[31/12/2014, 11:36:56 PM] Rob: My stuff is all political. I wish I was better at talking about video games or art in general.
[31/12/2014, 11:37:02 PM] Athena Hollow: oh! and the guild! forgot about the guild lol
[31/12/2014, 11:37:05 PM] Athena Hollow: but yeah, that's it.
[31/12/2014, 11:37:07 PM] live:riotarms: And I was like dude you follow Erik K and Baldwin
[31/12/2014, 11:37:18 PM] Remy: My YT channel is nothing but bugs and glitches I recorded that made me go WTF
[31/12/2014, 11:37:21 PM] live:riotarms: I have a love/hate thing with geek stuff
[31/12/2014, 11:37:39 PM] live:riotarms: Like I'm a huge geek but I also like understated stuff
[31/12/2014, 11:37:42 PM] Athena Hollow: my 8 year old can name more youtube channels than me LOL
[31/12/2014, 11:37:49 PM] Dina : wait, riot arms, who are you on Twitter? (sorry)
[31/12/2014, 11:38:02 PM] live:riotarms: Yeah, knifehorse
[31/12/2014, 11:38:08 PM] Dina : I like yelling at the camera and breaking things :(
[31/12/2014, 11:38:14 PM] Dina : go go red letter media
[31/12/2014, 11:38:21 PM] Dina : why did you have to make rape jokes
[31/12/2014, 11:38:22 PM] live:riotarms: Yessss red letter
[31/12/2014, 11:38:27 PM] live:riotarms: Wait what
[31/12/2014, 11:38:29 PM] live:riotarms: Argh
[31/12/2014, 11:38:37 PM] Dina : plinkett reviews of Episode 1
[31/12/2014, 11:38:44 PM] live:riotarms: Auralnauts are good but slow
[31/12/2014, 11:38:48 PM] Rob: yeah
[31/12/2014, 11:38:59 PM] live:riotarms: They did an amazing re dub of the prequel trilogy
[[31/12/2014, 11:39:24 PM] Dina : yyyeeeeeepp
[31/12/2014, 11:39:42 PM] Rob: agreed
[[31/12/2014, 11:40:32 PM] live:riotarms: Like I love following glinner but he re tweeted a pic of the film south park parodied for that mid rape with the line "it's about ethics in games journalism"
[31/12/2014, 11:40:44 PM] live:riotarms: And I was like what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
[31/12/2014, 11:41:06 PM] Ian Cheong: people dont think before they tweet
[31/12/2014, 11:41:08 PM] Rob: I want to make more feminism videos but I don't want to deal with mras right now. bleh
[31/12/2014, 11:41:14 PM] Ian Cheong: someone got mad atm e because i used the word stupid
[31/12/2014, 11:41:15 PM] Ian Cheong: guess what tho
[31/12/2014, 11:41:18 PM] Ian Cheong: im gonna keep using it
[31/12/2014, 11:41:57 PM] Rob: I had someone come at me for saying 'stupid'. I checked their TL and they repeatedly said 'dumb', so I told them to fuck off
[31/12/2014, 11:42:01 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 11:42:27 PM] live:riotarms: Language is a literal mindfield
[31/12/2014, 11:42:45 PM] live:riotarms: Didn't they call a transformer spastic a few years ago
[31/12/2014, 11:42:48 PM] Athena Hollow: at least stupid has meaning beyond ableism, as in - knowing the right answer but still going w/ the wrong one, but I've become partial to 'willful ignorance'
[31/12/2014, 11:43:02 PM] Rob: well that's the thing too
[31/12/2014, 11:43:02 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, spastic has zero ableist meaning in the US is why.
[31/12/2014, 11:43:09 PM] Rob: I get ableism and yes its a problem
[31/12/2014, 11:43:17 PM] Rob: but if they really want to get specific?
[31/12/2014, 11:43:23 PM] Rob: okay asshole whining about me using the word stupid
[31/12/2014, 11:43:31 PM] Rob: you brag about muting people on twitter
[31/12/2014, 11:43:37 PM] Rob: why do you hate people who can't speak you filthy fucking ableist?
[31/12/2014, 11:43:40 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 11:43:58 PM] live:riotarms: It's weird. The c-bomb is never used as a gendered insult over here
[31/12/2014, 11:44:15 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, it's almost killed me to not use cunt the past 6 months LOL
[31/12/2014, 11:44:19 PM] live:riotarms: It's become divorced from meaning
[31/12/2014, 11:44:26 PM] Rob: See, and I learned it from british TV, even as an american
[31/12/2014, 11:44:26 PM] Athena Hollow: I'm not British, but it's one of my favorite words hahaha
[31/12/2014, 11:44:29 PM] Athena Hollow: along w/ twat.
[31/12/2014, 11:44:33 PM] Rob: I watched a lot of british shows growing up so that's how I learned it
[31/12/2014, 11:44:47 PM] live:riotarms: Same as fuck and shit, they're just sort of weapons grade ways to punctuate a sentence
[31/12/2014, 11:45:10 PM] live:riotarms: But I've cut down on cunt because I interact with a lot of Americans and I see how it's used there
[31/12/2014, 11:45:17 PM] Athena Hollow: but I've made a concerted effort to not use them during this whole clusterfuck for a reason, but yeah.... if gg were to comb through my timeline wowee. XD
[31/12/2014, 11:45:35 PM] live:riotarms: The Australians get the best out of it, Athena
[31/12/2014, 11:45:48 PM] Dina : I personally don't like cunt
[31/12/2014, 11:45:48 PM] live:riotarms: It's a term of endearment over there
[31/12/2014, 11:45:56 PM] Dina : but I had to actively cut out "bitch"
[31/12/2014, 11:46:06 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: like most words, i think how you're using something like "cunt" is very important. only a silly person is going to be offended if someone's like MY STUPID CUNTING CAR WON'T START, imo
[31/12/2014, 11:46:15 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 11:46:16 PM] Dina : lol
[31/12/2014, 11:46:25 PM] Dina : bitching, on the other hand, is totally cool!
[31/12/2014, 11:46:27 PM] Athena Hollow: Like, I'll say "God we're cunts"
[31/12/2014, 11:46:33 PM] Dina : MY BITCHING CAR IS BITCHING
[31/12/2014, 11:46:34 PM] live:riotarms: Ha, well I'm born out of wedlock and I enjoy bastard greatly
[31/12/2014, 11:46:46 PM] Athena Hollow: but I don't typically or at least remember, referring to a woman who was being disagreeable as "a cunt"
[31/12/2014, 11:47:02 PM] live:riotarms: It's about if the word has power in the context it's used
[31/12/2014, 11:47:09 PM] Athena Hollow: I think the closest I've gotten is calling people 'dumb twats'
[31/12/2014, 11:47:22 PM] live:riotarms: Some always will I think, like the n-word
[31/12/2014, 11:47:31 PM] Ian Cheong: someone i follow on twitter says its wrong to tell people to go fuck themselves because it disregards autosexual people.
[31/12/2014, 11:47:32 PM] Ian Cheong: im like what
[31/12/2014, 11:47:39 PM] Athena Hollow: ....
[31/12/2014, 11:47:49 PM] live:riotarms: Oh wow
[31/12/2014, 11:48:03 PM] live:riotarms: Fuck that
[31/12/2014, 11:48:15 PM] Athena Hollow: I mean, they aren't exactly wrong, but it's obviously not the connotation in anyway lol
[31/12/2014, 11:48:22 PM] Ian Cheong: and pissbabies?
[31/12/2014, 11:48:24 PM] Ian Cheong: cant say that either
[31/12/2014, 11:48:26 PM] Ian Cheong: because it makes fun of the incontinent
[31/12/2014, 11:48:29 PM] Athena Hollow: O_O
[31/12/2014, 11:48:29 PM] Ian Cheong: like ok
[31/12/2014, 11:48:52 PM] Athena Hollow: Ok, now we start getting into literal sjws that were the reason the name was made in the first place IMO lol
[31/12/2014, 11:49:01 PM] Remy: fuckwit
[31/12/2014, 11:49:03 PM] Remy: shitstain
[31/12/2014, 11:49:08 PM] Remy: I still have fallbacks
[31/12/2014, 11:49:09 PM] Rob: I heard someone say that if you say you're a sapiosexual, you're ableist
[31/12/2014, 11:49:11 PM] Athena Hollow: there's literally not an insult in the world that doesn't inherently demean someone.
[31/12/2014, 11:49:14 PM] live:riotarms: I unfollowed someone called MicroPenisRodney because his bot started arguing with a micro penis sufferer
[31/12/2014, 11:49:21 PM] Rob: and I think sapiosexual is a silly term
[31/12/2014, 11:49:23 PM] Rob: but ableist? wtf?
[31/12/2014, 11:49:35 PM] live:riotarms: That was actually an account named after a dril tweet too
[31/12/2014, 11:49:55 PM] Athena Hollow: hahaha oh god.
[31/12/2014, 11:50:16 PM] live:riotarms: Not sure why that was my wakeup that micropenis isn't something to treat as a causal joke
[31/12/2014, 11:50:35 PM] Dina : something something not the size of the boat
[31/12/2014, 11:50:37 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 11:50:42 PM] Dina : something something hitachi to the rescue
[31/12/2014, 11:50:44 PM] Ian Cheong: a micropenis isnt a small penis
[31/12/2014, 11:50:46 PM] Athena Hollow: YESSSSSSSSS
[31/12/2014, 11:50:50 PM] Dina : did I get that right?
[31/12/2014, 11:50:50 PM] Ian Cheong: its a literal medical condition
[31/12/2014, 11:50:57 PM] Dina : it is??
[31/12/2014, 11:51:02 PM] Dina : I had no idea
[31/12/2014, 11:51:07 PM] Rob: Yeah
[31/12/2014, 11:51:08 PM] Dina : today I learned
[31/12/2014, 11:51:21 PM] Remy: Kind of like how someone with dwarfism isn't just short
[31/12/2014, 11:51:44 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: micropenis (or microphallus) is often used in medical literature re: intersex people
[31/12/2014, 11:51:46 PM] Athena Hollow: nope. which is why my friends don't call me dwarf, they call me hobbit.... because they are assholes lol
[31/12/2014, 11:52:00 PM] live:riotarms: The idea penetration is sex sucks basically
[31/12/2014, 11:52:21 PM] Dina : yep
[31/12/2014, 11:52:30 PM] Rob: yep
[31/12/2014, 11:52:33 PM] Rob: for a lot of reasons
[31/12/2014, 11:52:47 PM] live:riotarms: Elvis couldn't do it often believe it or not
[31/12/2014, 11:53:06 PM] Dina : why are you aware of that lol
[31/12/2014, 11:53:08 PM] Remy: Too busy stealing music from the black community
[31/12/2014, 11:53:15 PM] Dina : OUCH
[31/12/2014, 11:53:16 PM] live:riotarms: Hahaha to both
[31/12/2014, 11:53:18 PM] Remy: XD
[31/12/2014, 11:53:25 PM] Dina : Dina  high fives Stephen
[31/12/2014, 11:53:32 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 11:53:43 PM] Dina : this is it, this is the turning point
[31/12/2014, 11:53:46 PM] live:riotarms: He had something up with a tight foreskin I read
[31/12/2014, 11:53:47 PM] Athena Hollow: so... like... my mother in law grew up around elvish.
[31/12/2014, 11:53:51 PM] Dina : where the chat either devolves into smut
[31/12/2014, 11:53:51 PM] Athena Hollow: elvis hahaha
[31/12/2014, 11:53:52 PM] live:riotarms: So he liked to watch
[31/12/2014, 11:53:56 PM] Athena Hollow: goddamn cold fingers.
[31/12/2014, 11:53:58 PM] Dina : or goes back the other way
[31/12/2014, 11:54:06 PM] Rob: Smut, eh? Go on. CREEPY STARE
[31/12/2014, 11:54:12 PM] Athena Hollow: and I had mentioned something about him appropriating black music and she lost her shit O_______O
[31/12/2014, 11:54:23 PM] live:riotarms: Dali also hated sex apparently
[31/12/2014, 11:54:32 PM] live:riotarms: Oh god I can't stop the trivia
[31/12/2014, 11:54:35 PM] live:riotarms: Help
[31/12/2014, 11:54:56 PM] Athena Hollow: so we went & researched it and while technically yes, he did, he also grew up in that community as well so it's apparently more akin to Eminem, than say, Igloo Australia.
[31/12/2014, 11:55:48 PM] Athena Hollow: And while she defended his music stuff, she did confirm that he was a giant manbaby asshole a lot of the time LOL
[31/12/2014, 11:57:01 PM] Remy: well that's comforting
[31/12/2014, 11:57:10 PM] Remy: Kinda nice to know Elvis wasn't completely shitty
[31/12/2014, 11:57:21 PM] Dina : foreskin too tight
[31/12/2014, 11:57:24 PM] Dina : makes me sad
[31/12/2014, 11:57:24 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 11:57:52 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: .. where did the foreskin comment come from i'm so confused
[31/12/2014, 11:57:56 PM] Athena Hollow: XD
[31/12/2014, 11:58:16 PM] Athena Hollow: Knife's full of random penis related information apparently hahahahah
[31/12/2014, 11:58:18 PM] Dina : Elvis
[31/12/2014, 11:58:26 PM] Remy: we're talking about Elvis' foreskin
[31/12/2014, 11:58:34 PM] live:riotarms: I'm a penis savant I think
[31/12/2014, 11:58:37 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 11:58:38 PM] Dina : I once slept with a guy who was all foreskin
[31/12/2014, 11:58:40 PM] Dina : like folds
[31/12/2014, 11:58:45 PM] Dina : I had no idea what to do
[31/12/2014, 11:58:46 PM] Remy: the penis whisperer
[31/12/2014, 11:58:53 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL Dina.
[31/12/2014, 11:58:53 PM] Dina : (also I was like 20 so)
[31/12/2014, 11:59:01 PM] Athena Hollow: I've actually never been w/ an uncut guy >_>
[31/12/2014, 11:59:03 PM] live:riotarms: Bad mental image of a full body foreskin
[31/12/2014, 11:59:10 PM] Dina : I just kept peeling back but it kept producing more foreskin
[31/12/2014, 11:59:12 PM] Dina : help
[31/12/2014, 11:59:13 PM] Remy: I have had the same experience Dina it'll put the brakes on an evening
[31/12/2014, 11:59:24 PM] Athena Hollow: Which would be impressive if I didn't live in the states where everyone has been circumcised.
[31/12/2014, 11:59:25 PM] Dina : yeah I felt really bad
[31/12/2014, 11:59:45 PM] Dina : like it's not you dude I just have literally never seen so much foreskin on one penis
[31/12/2014, 11:59:52 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 11:59:56 PM] live:riotarms: That sounds like a Juni Ito story