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Skype Con Leak/30 dec is part of a series on the Skype Con Leak.
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Dates:  Highlights • 22 dec • 23 dec • 24 dec • 25th dec • 26 dec • 27 dec • 28 dec • 29 dec • 30 dec • 31 dec • 01 jan dec • 02 jan • 03 jan • 04 jan • serious long • serious short 
[30/12/2014, 12:02:56 AM] Ian Cheong: This thread really is a pile of shit. http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qowzf/psa_reaxxion_is_not_our_friend/
[30/12/2014, 12:06:15 AM] David Gallant: "Sexist != misogynist"
[30/12/2014, 12:06:18 AM] David Gallant: LOL okay
[30/12/2014, 12:08:34 AM] Rob: heh
[30/12/2014, 12:09:00 AM] David Gallant: That really is a shit thread.
[30/12/2014, 12:20:31 AM] Ian Cheong: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6AJGiICEAAPzrd.png
[30/12/2014, 12:21:15 AM] Peter Coffin: I dont disagree with you. I don't like rooshv. That said, if you "give in" and say "you aren't allowed to be a part of gamergate" - that is it.
[30/12/2014, 12:21:33 AM] Peter Coffin: so like... isn't that literally the exact same thing they claim the harassment patrol is/was
[30/12/2014, 12:21:47 AM] Peter Coffin: like comment #1 immediately fucks over one of their narratives
[30/12/2014, 12:22:19 AM] David Gallant: GamerGate doing the opposite of something they've done before? Must be a day ending in y
[30/12/2014, 12:22:51 AM] Peter Coffin: lol
[30/12/2014, 12:23:25 AM] Ian Cheong: its funny, they post that image up about how 'gamergate is about wanting more women in games'
[30/12/2014, 12:23:38 AM] Ian Cheong: and then they embrace rooshv who posted an article about how women should gtfo games
[30/12/2014, 12:23:58 AM] Peter Coffin: I'm preparing tweets
[30/12/2014, 12:24:00 AM] Peter Coffin: hahaha
[30/12/2014, 12:24:09 AM] Ian Cheong: enjoy that thread i linked
[30/12/2014, 12:25:24 AM] Ian Cheong: know how izels is promoting that "#boobfreq" thing by saying anita literally has sex with her own father -- he also said this 75 days ago: http://t.co/uoM3Ev46UY
[30/12/2014, 12:26:59 AM] David Gallant: I don't see the link.
[30/12/2014, 12:27:23 AM] David Gallant: I mean, I don't see the link between the Kristalnacht comment and accusing Anita of incest.
[30/12/2014, 12:28:13 AM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/549602353511288833
[30/12/2014, 12:28:16 AM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/549602673813516288
[30/12/2014, 12:32:32 AM] David Gallant: I was wondering why I didn't see those in my feed, Peter, until I remembered that I had a mute set up for the tag.
[30/12/2014, 12:37:56 AM] Ian Cheong: the link is the guy himself
[30/12/2014, 12:38:12 AM] Ian Cheong: like if you want to point out what a shit head he is, he's got a whole history of it
[30/12/2014, 12:38:24 AM] Ian Cheong: gamergate has a habit of endorsing assholes like him
[30/12/2014, 12:38:33 AM] David Gallant: Yeah. Fair point.
[30/12/2014, 12:38:53 AM] David Gallant: I guess I didn't click to that meaning because I already knew izels was an asshole.
[30/12/2014, 12:39:06 AM] David Gallant: ... I hate that I know these people by username now.
[30/12/2014, 12:39:40 AM] Rob: hahah
[30/12/2014, 12:46:57 AM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/549607393827360768
[30/12/2014, 12:47:58 AM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/549607652104220673
[30/12/2014, 12:51:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Good morning
[30/12/2014, 12:51:36 AM] Ian Cheong: Guten morgen
[30/12/2014, 12:51:37 AM] Peter Coffin: morning
[30/12/2014, 12:52:54 AM] Ian Cheong: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qpxmu/eron_gjoni_posted_his_legal_invoices_for_full/
[30/12/2014, 12:53:14 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): But GG is not about Zoe
[30/12/2014, 12:53:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): #ETHICS
[30/12/2014, 12:53:56 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Had to remind them again: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qpxmu/eron_gjoni_posted_his_legal_invoices_for_full/cn8eiyd
[30/12/2014, 12:53:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :3
[30/12/2014, 12:56:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): GOD BLESS YOU KIWIKKU:

[–]kiwikku [score hidden] a minute ago 

He needs to get more donations.
[30/12/2014, 12:57:41 AM] Ian Cheong: Pathetic.
[30/12/2014, 12:59:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): and in tweet form: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549610586544148480
[30/12/2014, 1:00:08 AM] Tesseract: did you get back to medium about removing that
[30/12/2014, 1:00:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah, I haven't heard back yet
[30/12/2014, 1:00:28 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): They are only open Mon-Fri
[30/12/2014, 1:00:33 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): so, hopefully later today
[30/12/2014, 1:00:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :/
[30/12/2014, 1:00:43 AM] Peter Coffin: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qpxmu/eron_gjoni_posted_his_legal_invoices_for_full/cn8eqjh
[30/12/2014, 1:00:50 AM] Peter Coffin: posted jonathan mann's song on their thread
[30/12/2014, 1:00:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AHAHA
[30/12/2014, 1:01:35 AM] Ian Cheong: "Nope, it does not always come back to her. This thread is about Eron Gjoni. Please try to keep up :)"
[30/12/2014, 1:01:43 AM] Ian Cheong: are you shitting me.
[30/12/2014, 1:02:22 AM] Peter Coffin: first actual sentence contains her name
[30/12/2014, 1:02:31 AM] Peter Coffin: "Update time." does not count as a sentence
[30/12/2014, 1:02:57 AM] Ian Cheong: "Yeah, except that "shitposting" was the first crack in the wall that exposed the corruption."
[30/12/2014, 1:02:59 AM] Ian Cheong: What corruption
[30/12/2014, 1:03:04 AM] Ian Cheong: Nathan never wrote a review of DQ.
[30/12/2014, 1:03:06 AM] Peter Coffin: lol
[30/12/2014, 1:03:31 AM] Rob: NATHAN GRASON WAS THE SHOOTER ON THE GRASSY KNOLL
[30/12/2014, 1:05:27 AM] David Gallant: "This exposed the corruption?"
[30/12/2014, 1:05:35 AM] David Gallant: "Which specific corruption?"
[30/12/2014, 1:05:44 AM] David Gallant: "You know... the corruption! All of it!"
[30/12/2014, 1:08:23 AM] Ian Cheong: "It's about Eron. Eron Gjoni is not Zoe Quinn. He is also not a jilted ex. Why is that so hard to grasp?"
[30/12/2014, 1:08:30 AM] Ian Cheong: If it has nothing to do with Zoe Quinn, then what the fuck has Eron got to do with ethics in game journalism?
[30/12/2014, 1:08:36 AM] David Gallant: Did you know that GJP was corruption? We can only explain how by showing two writers who were assholes being talked about.
[30/12/2014, 1:20:18 AM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/AgainstGamerGate/comments/2qlxfv/forced_to_be_neutral_i_have_no_mouth_and_i_must/
[30/12/2014, 1:20:31 AM] Ian Cheong: this is so disingenuous its funny
[30/12/2014, 1:22:51 AM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/549616311387451392
[30/12/2014, 1:23:01 AM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/549616447068975106
[30/12/2014, 1:23:39 AM] Peter Coffin: funny, the more I talk about GG the more AAA devs follow. Someone from blizzard just followed
[30/12/2014, 1:24:08 AM] David Gallant: Yeah, I had a bit of that before.
[30/12/2014, 1:24:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): BUT XBRO SAID 99%
[30/12/2014, 1:25:47 AM] David Gallant: Saddens me that more devs oppose GG quietly.
[30/12/2014, 1:27:35 AM] David Gallant: I know.
[30/12/2014, 1:27:46 AM] David Gallant: Believe me, I know.
[30/12/2014, 1:28:09 AM] David Gallant: And I'm not asking those folks to expose themselves to GG just so they can get abuse...
[30/12/2014, 1:28:10 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): We need more large game dev companies formally coming out against GG
[30/12/2014, 1:28:31 AM] David Gallant: ... but more game developers speaking out against GG would show them that THE INDUSTRY DOES NOT SUPPORT THEM.
[30/12/2014, 1:28:51 AM] David Gallant: Because honestly? I'm starting to believe the industry does support them.
[30/12/2014, 1:29:05 AM] David Gallant: Alex hit the nail on the head with his story the other night.
[30/12/2014, 1:32:07 AM] Ian Cheong: A depressing tale to be sure
[30/12/2014, 1:34:52 AM] Ian Cheong: http://i.imgur.com/t0nCEJh.png
[30/12/2014, 1:40:29 AM] Ian Cheong: "Don't forget the Rule 34 images they produced of their 'Based Mom'."
[30/12/2014, 1:40:33 AM] Ian Cheong: do i want to look that up
[30/12/2014, 1:40:41 AM] Ian Cheong: no, i dont want to look that up
[30/12/2014, 1:40:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I always joke about it. I had no idea they actually made stuff
[30/12/2014, 1:40:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
[30/12/2014, 1:40:56 AM] Ian Cheong: ill go look it up now
[30/12/2014, 1:41:00 AM] Ian Cheong: i need to know if it exists.
[30/12/2014, 1:41:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): godspeed
[30/12/2014, 1:41:56 AM] Rob: So my sink breaking
[30/12/2014, 1:42:06 AM] Rob: It was with a glass vase, right?
[30/12/2014, 1:42:13 AM] Rob: The glass vase isn't even cracked.
[30/12/2014, 1:42:18 AM] Rob: But it cracked the sink all the way through
[30/12/2014, 1:42:22 AM] Ian Cheong: hahaha
[30/12/2014, 1:42:22 AM] Ian Cheong: wow
[30/12/2014, 1:42:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): you found Based Mom rule34?
[30/12/2014, 1:42:55 AM] Ian Cheong: no i havent found that
[30/12/2014, 1:43:24 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): her mouth weirds me out
[30/12/2014, 1:45:00 AM] Ian Cheong: if it exists i cant find it
[30/12/2014, 1:46:47 AM] Ian Cheong: "As many of you already know, Eron is currently under prior restraint due to a legal attack by Zoe Quinn over thezoepost. This has prevented him from telling his side of the story ..."
[30/12/2014, 1:46:54 AM] Ian Cheong: I thought the zoe post WAS his side of the story.
[30/12/2014, 1:47:04 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ...
[30/12/2014, 1:48:14 AM] David Gallant: Fucking idiots.
[30/12/2014, 1:48:26 AM] Rob: oh lord
[30/12/2014, 1:48:33 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Thanks, Ian. I commented: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qpxmu/eron_gjoni_posted_his_legal_invoices_for_full/cn8g994
[30/12/2014, 1:49:56 AM] Ian Cheong: I know he's a sociopath and a narcissist but i want to keep asking what the fuck is wrong with Eron.
[30/12/2014, 1:50:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): GG keeps feeding him attention so he keeps going at it.
[30/12/2014, 1:50:45 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): but GG is too dumb to realize what they are doing. or they are just as horrible
[30/12/2014, 1:50:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): most likely the latter
[30/12/2014, 1:51:10 AM] Ian Cheong: ya
[30/12/2014, 2:15:18 AM] Peter Coffin: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qpxmu/eron_gjoni_posted_his_legal_invoices_for_full/cn8h4tf?context=10000
[30/12/2014, 2:17:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol, this GGer doesn't like Eron at all. https://twitter.com/Monk_0/status/549629516252196864
[30/12/2014, 2:17:21 AM] Peter Coffin: whaaaaaaaaaa
[30/12/2014, 2:17:45 AM] Peter Coffin: so this person is literally just like "FUCK VICTIMS. FUCK ANYONE WHO HAS ANYTHING HAPPEN TO THEM"
[30/12/2014, 2:17:48 AM] Peter Coffin: not that he's a victim
[30/12/2014, 2:18:10 AM] David Gallant: Crary's being sarcastic.
[30/12/2014, 2:18:16 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qpxmu/eron_gjoni_posted_his_legal_invoices_for_full/cn8h84n?context=3
[30/12/2014, 2:18:21 AM] Peter Coffin: i deleted alredy
[30/12/2014, 2:18:25 AM] Peter Coffin: your tweet tipped me off
[30/12/2014, 2:18:29 AM] David Gallant: Sorry
[30/12/2014, 2:18:33 AM] Peter Coffin: oh no prob
[30/12/2014, 2:18:38 AM] Peter Coffin: thank you
[30/12/2014, 2:19:06 AM] Peter Coffin: that is not a good way to go about it, I will say. that seems like an entirely serious comment that I have seen before
[30/12/2014, 2:19:12 AM] Peter Coffin: needs to be flagged sarcasm in some way
[30/12/2014, 2:19:24 AM] David Gallant: I know, right? Sarcasm is impossible to detect now.
[30/12/2014, 2:19:31 AM] Peter Coffin: I flag it all the time
[30/12/2014, 2:19:35 AM] Peter Coffin: or put it in scare quotes
[30/12/2014, 2:19:39 AM] Peter Coffin: just the whole tweet
[30/12/2014, 2:19:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL, my comment is at -41: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qpxmu/eron_gjoni_posted_his_legal_invoices_for_full/cn8eiyd
[30/12/2014, 2:20:35 AM] Peter Coffin: i'm at -18
[30/12/2014, 2:20:41 AM] Peter Coffin: meh
[30/12/2014, 2:20:47 AM] Peter Coffin: idiots
[30/12/2014, 2:25:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Veerender still getting bombarded with hate on Twitter from GGers :(
[30/12/2014, 2:26:45 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Yeah...
[30/12/2014, 2:26:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): (hug)
[30/12/2014, 2:27:10 AM] Rob: I love this Andrew Norton guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih9YyQCUt08
[30/12/2014, 2:27:16 AM] Rob: The voice he does makes me crack the fuck up
[30/12/2014, 2:38:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): OMG.
[30/12/2014, 2:38:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): http://www.ktul.com/story/27370110/controversial-toy-part-changed-after-consumer-feedback
[30/12/2014, 2:38:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): that's hilarious
[30/12/2014, 2:51:27 AM] Peter Coffin: hahahahahahahahahah
[30/12/2014, 2:55:16 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): The Play-Doh website is still advertising the product with the old, phallic part: http://www.hasbro.com/playdoh/en_US/shop/details.cfm?R=FD802546-5056-9047-F565-7AFA4564D9FB:en_US
[30/12/2014, 2:55:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[30/12/2014, 3:01:06 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): This is fun. GamerGate is targeting Save The Children because they advertise with Gawker. https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549641002646921218
[30/12/2014, 3:04:44 AM] Rob: ohdear
[30/12/2014, 3:08:26 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): signal boost this, because GG are scum: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549642720180834305
[30/12/2014, 3:12:32 AM] Peter Coffin: RT'd
[30/12/2014, 3:14:16 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): thanks
[30/12/2014, 3:16:59 AM] Rob: RTed as well
[30/12/2014, 3:17:09 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): you can't make up this shit
[30/12/2014, 3:17:16 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): unbelievable
[30/12/2014, 3:24:20 AM] Rob: https://twitter.com/UnseenPerfidy/status/549646806590554114
[30/12/2014, 3:24:24 AM] Rob: (sun)
[30/12/2014, 3:24:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ha
[30/12/2014, 3:40:09 AM] Quinnae: Afternoon, all.
[30/12/2014, 3:40:10 AM] Peter Coffin: hey katherine how are you
[30/12/2014, 3:40:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hello!
[30/12/2014, 3:41:32 AM] Quinnae: Doing well! Having coffee, warming up, my love is making bacon, all is well.
[30/12/2014, 3:41:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sounds wonderful
[30/12/2014, 3:42:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :3
[30/12/2014, 3:42:56 AM] Remy: Hello everyone ^_^
[30/12/2014, 3:43:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hey, Stephen
[30/12/2014, 3:43:18 AM] Remy: At first my brain didn't take in Katherine's words in the right order, so I first read "I'm warming up my love-making bacon"
[30/12/2014, 3:43:25 AM] Peter Coffin: lol
[30/12/2014, 3:43:26 AM] Remy: And I was like if that isn't a euphemism then it needs to be
[30/12/2014, 3:43:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): love-making bacon
[30/12/2014, 3:43:42 AM] Remy: But also if that isn't a type of bacon then it also needs to be
[30/12/2014, 3:43:49 AM] Remy: I vote maple bacon
[30/12/2014, 3:44:03 AM] Quinnae: giggles
[30/12/2014, 3:44:09 AM] Quinnae: Oh I think her and I have that down to a science. ;)
[30/12/2014, 3:44:17 AM] Remy: XD
[30/12/2014, 3:44:31 AM] Remy: Remy high-fives Katherine ^_^
[30/12/2014, 3:44:38 AM] Quinnae: I was just buying our train tickets back to New York, she's going to spend New Year's with me up there.
[30/12/2014, 3:44:42 AM] Quinnae: Hehe, hi fives back
[30/12/2014, 3:44:53 AM] Remy: That sounds so lovely
[30/12/2014, 3:47:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It is so hard not to love Veerender: https://twitter.com/Veeren_Jubbal/status/549651901349126145
[30/12/2014, 3:53:12 AM] Quinnae: Indeed. He's a good lad. :)
[30/12/2014, 3:56:09 AM] Remy: Oh wow Peter
[30/12/2014, 3:56:41 AM] Remy: I just saw that you jumped into that KiA thread where they're all commiserating on our poor legal system is abusing EG with that awful, violent restraining order
[30/12/2014, 3:56:53 AM] Remy: Damn SJW's abusing the court system to kill freeze peaches
[30/12/2014, 3:58:13 AM] Remy: Also I get that Zoe is busy inventing a pip-boy but when I get rich I need to hire a smart inventor to get me a special glove
[30/12/2014, 3:58:32 AM] Remy: Basically I want to be able to magically/sarcastically wave my hand in the air over my head and create a temporary rainbow
[30/12/2014, 3:58:43 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): that would be amazing
[30/12/2014, 3:58:51 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): or like SpongeBob. IMAGINATION
[30/12/2014, 3:58:55 AM] Remy: EXACTLY
[30/12/2014, 3:59:10 AM] Remy: But you can also retrofit it for sarcasm by just saying "THE MORE YOU KNOW" when you do it
[30/12/2014, 3:59:41 AM] Remy: So it should be fun for all ages. Who doesn't wanna make a rainbow?
[30/12/2014, 4:00:29 AM] SF: I got a LittleBits set for Christmas I could totally make a pip-boy.
[30/12/2014, 4:00:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Has any such thing ever been made? to make a temporary small rainbow?
[30/12/2014, 4:01:19 AM] SF: I guess the problem there is that projecting the colour would require some kind of suspended medium in the air. I assume the appeal of creating the rainbow would be doing it out of nothing.
[30/12/2014, 4:01:56 AM] SF: Like would you be creating a small mist and then refracting light off it?
[30/12/2014, 4:02:09 AM] Remy: We would have to investigate different mists and spray release mechanisms
[30/12/2014, 4:02:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): and LED flashes
[30/12/2014, 4:02:22 AM] SF: The alternative of course is something that interfaces with the viewer's AR display, if such displays were ubiquitous by then, but then it would depend on the ecosystem.
[30/12/2014, 4:02:37 AM] Remy: True enough
[30/12/2014, 4:02:39 AM] SF: I certainly hope that not everyone will be given write access to everyone else's display buffer.
[30/12/2014, 4:02:46 AM] Remy: All of this will be so easy when we all have integrated VR interfaces
[30/12/2014, 4:02:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I so want AR glasses/goggles to be the norm
[30/12/2014, 4:03:03 AM] Remy: We will just doodle in mid-air to each other and our VI's will show us the drawing lol
[30/12/2014, 4:03:12 AM] SF: I don't. Everything is overstimulating enough already.
[30/12/2014, 4:03:31 AM] SF: I wear sunglasses in the evening just to block out lights and navigate by sound because street lights give me a headache, heh.
[30/12/2014, 4:04:22 AM] Remy: I think today is going to be a Muppets Movie day
[30/12/2014, 4:06:03 AM] Remy: I think I have decided that in my fantasy series the Skyhook city will end up being converted into the Rainbow city
[30/12/2014, 4:06:54 AM] SF: What's Skyhook city?
[30/12/2014, 4:06:58 AM] Remy: oh
[30/12/2014, 4:07:38 AM] Remy: I was going to design a city modeled after a concept that Katherine discussed in length about fantasy societies and how they are often constructed a bit shallowly and just grafted onto the surface
[30/12/2014, 4:08:03 AM] Remy: Societies in stories and books that seem all neat on the surface but if you think about it long enough their rules just don't really make sense for how a society would or could function
[30/12/2014, 4:08:33 AM] Remy: And I wanted to make a city where the people were essentially living unsustainably because they were living on the lie that their city could sustain itself and that their way of life was somehow permanent
[30/12/2014, 4:08:49 AM] Remy: And Katherine's paper made me think to build a city literally suspended in air
[30/12/2014, 4:09:45 AM] Remy: I know it's been done before, but it fits the metaphor
[30/12/2014, 4:10:19 AM] Quinnae: grins
[30/12/2014, 4:10:43 AM] Remy: But by the end of the story I want to convert the city from an example of unsustainable living in ignorance to an example of... I dunno, how should I call it... optimistic living?
[30/12/2014, 4:10:52 AM] Remy: A city of dreamers, y'know?
[30/12/2014, 4:11:04 AM] Remy: People who know they can't reach as far as they like to pretend, but they do it anyway just to see how far they can go
[30/12/2014, 4:12:25 AM] Quinnae: Intriguing idea! I'm flattered to have helped inspire it. :)
[30/12/2014, 4:13:22 AM] SF: >And I wanted to make a city where the people were essentially living unsustainably because they were living on the lie that their city could sustain itself and that their way of life was somehow permanent

So, it's non-fiction.
[30/12/2014, 4:16:08 AM] Remy: In a sense
[30/12/2014, 4:16:19 AM] Remy: But I intend to play around with fantasy settings
[30/12/2014, 4:16:28 AM] Remy: Although thus far the world is... how do you call it. Low magic?
[30/12/2014, 4:16:31 AM] Remy: Also low steampunk
[30/12/2014, 4:16:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): If I was single, I'd be very jealous of Veerender's charm: https://twitter.com/Veeren_Jubbal/status/549659462311501826
[30/12/2014, 4:17:04 AM] Remy: He's so effing cute too
[30/12/2014, 4:18:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popehat_%28blog%29
[30/12/2014, 4:19:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://www.popehat.com/about/
[30/12/2014, 4:20:24 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wrong chat, lol. But if you wanted to know more about Popehat... ^^^
[30/12/2014, 4:34:32 AM] Rob: hi folks
[30/12/2014, 4:34:48 AM] David Gallant: Hey Rob
[30/12/2014, 4:35:26 AM] Tesseract: lol http://www.dangerandplay.com/2013/02/06/benjamin-franklin-first-american-red-pill-thinker/
[30/12/2014, 4:35:50 AM] Rob: ahoyhoy
[30/12/2014, 4:36:30 AM] Remy: oh god
[30/12/2014, 4:38:07 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): holy crap, I remember when that blog post went viral last year on reddit
[30/12/2014, 4:38:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I didn't realize it was JuiceBro now that I knew him
[30/12/2014, 4:40:32 AM] SF: The Founding Fathers sure manage to magically adopt the opinions of the current generation of conservatives over and over.
[30/12/2014, 4:40:35 AM] SF: Much like Jesus.
[30/12/2014, 4:40:40 AM] Remy: well he slings juice
[30/12/2014, 4:41:38 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/387529061154582528
[30/12/2014, 4:42:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): she looks younger than 18...
[30/12/2014, 4:43:30 AM] Quinnae: Ugh.
[30/12/2014, 4:45:12 AM] SF: This guy is turning me off sex.
[30/12/2014, 4:46:45 AM] Remy: Usually that's what I do, but only using poor social skills and no fashion sense
[30/12/2014, 4:47:29 AM] Remy: That dude is so gross and that tweet is so gross and that is not a person
[30/12/2014, 4:47:57 AM] Quinnae: Well, he is, and that's the troubling part.
[30/12/2014, 4:48:00 AM] Remy: "Here's a photo of somebody's family. Let me encourage the entire internet to leer at their daughter just b/c I obviously have some unsettled issues"
[30/12/2014, 4:48:08 AM] Tesseract: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously Dec 12

Good point. I once made the mistake of lifting up my cock. It definitely looks better from the top than bottom.
[30/12/2014, 4:48:34 AM] Quinnae: Funnily enough, I find that free speech zealots like him don't apply any other principles universally.
[30/12/2014, 4:52:41 AM] SF: He really does sound like Dril with spelling.
[30/12/2014, 4:53:05 AM] Peter Coffin: if they applied other principles universally it would interfere with universal free speech
[30/12/2014, 4:54:08 AM] SF: What if I made a novelty Twitter account that was just Cernovich tweets but Dril-ified.
[30/12/2014, 4:54:31 AM] Remy: I've been meaning to do that
[30/12/2014, 4:54:36 AM] Remy: With a Chuck C Johnson account
[30/12/2014, 4:54:49 AM] Remy: Except I can't do bots I have had to learn the hard way
[30/12/2014, 4:54:54 AM] Remy: Because I don't know computer language for shit
[30/12/2014, 4:55:02 AM] SF: Seems like the kind of thing that would need a human touch.
[30/12/2014, 4:55:38 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=rooshv%20OR%20realmattforney%20from%3Aplaydangerously&src=typd oh god there's so much
[30/12/2014, 4:56:24 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ROK AND ROLL
[30/12/2014, 4:56:50 AM] Tesseract: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously 25 Sep 2011

@Single_WM @rooshv One animal is an experiment. One-hundred cocks in an addiction. Bring me the pooch fucker.
[30/12/2014, 4:56:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
[30/12/2014, 4:58:02 AM] Tesseract: can I just save some time and archive the entire search
[30/12/2014, 4:58:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[30/12/2014, 4:58:59 AM] Remy: holy shit Tess
[30/12/2014, 4:59:37 AM] Remy: They go WAY back
[30/12/2014, 4:59:48 AM] Remy: I bet you Mike's been a fan ever since reading one of Roosh's "books"
[30/12/2014, 5:00:16 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Which means, he's more than likely raped women
[30/12/2014, 5:00:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): like Roosh has
[30/12/2014, 5:00:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): and intructs men to
[30/12/2014, 5:00:23 AM] SF: Nevermind that last tweet sounds like a bot anyway.
[30/12/2014, 5:00:39 AM] Tesseract: I am 100% sure juicebro is a rapist
[30/12/2014, 5:00:57 AM] Remy: I can't accuse him in court or anything but I've had zero doubts
[30/12/2014, 5:01:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): his "date rape isn't real" tweet was pretty damning
[30/12/2014, 5:01:51 AM] Remy: Even if he weren't a malicious POS
[30/12/2014, 5:02:12 AM] Remy: His grasp of the concept of consent is lacking enough to be a danger to his self and others
[30/12/2014, 5:03:36 AM] Remy: I'm trying to choose my words carefully because often I will flub what I mean but I think I said that right
[30/12/2014, 5:04:11 AM] Tesseract: he talks about "game" as if it's some sort of scientific theory
[30/12/2014, 5:04:12 AM] Rob: I would be surprised if Roosh, Cernovich, Tf00t and all the other "consent doesn't matter" assholes weren't rapists.
[30/12/2014, 5:04:18 AM] Tesseract: I guess that's probably standard for PUA filth
[30/12/2014, 5:04:50 AM] Remy: This is why I hate the term "date rape"
[30/12/2014, 5:04:54 AM] Remy: Those fucking qualifiers
[30/12/2014, 5:05:12 AM] Remy: "white slave trade"
[30/12/2014, 5:05:25 AM] Remy: Like could you advertise more strongly that you're focussing on the wrong part of the fucking issue
[30/12/2014, 5:05:51 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/126110474113794048 haha did he go back in time 3 years to make this tweet
[30/12/2014, 5:06:06 AM] Remy: XD TESS I WAS JUST READING THAT
[30/12/2014, 5:06:10 AM] Remy: And thinking very similar thoughts
[30/12/2014, 5:06:14 AM] Remy: Get out of my head
[30/12/2014, 5:06:18 AM] Remy: It's not safe in there
[30/12/2014, 5:07:56 AM] Tesseract: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously 4 Feb 2012

@rooshv Olive oil does wonders for cock skin tone.
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[30/12/2014, 5:08:16 AM] Rob: ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[30/12/2014, 5:08:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): "cock skin tone"... some guys care about that?
[30/12/2014, 5:08:20 AM] Tesseract: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously 23 Feb 2012

@rooshv I moved back to LA after a couple of years off. Gay guys everywhere. Your post noting that American women turn guys gay is spot on.
[30/12/2014, 5:08:24 AM] Remy: Mike C 25 NOV 

"Feminists are only half a man, and thus suffer from penis envy"
[30/12/2014, 5:08:25 AM] Rob: never eat ANY FOOD prepared by mike or made at his house
[30/12/2014, 5:08:35 AM] Remy: Well at least I know the bottom of my cock is as attractive as the top half.
[30/12/2014, 5:09:09 AM] Remy: Wow Tess so you figured out where he started with the oil gimmick
[30/12/2014, 5:09:49 AM] SF: This is exactly the kind of man who would oil his cock.
[30/12/2014, 5:10:16 AM] Tesseract: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously 30 Jul 2012

. @rooshv Men created Wikipedia. Women created Pinterest. Can anyone seriously claim the sexes are equal?
[30/12/2014, 5:10:28 AM] Remy: wow
[30/12/2014, 5:10:56 AM] Remy: You guys Mike C does not make love. He fornicates https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/156148099297984513
[30/12/2014, 5:11:13 AM] Remy: He fornicates like the Dothraki from Game of Thrones, or so he likes to imagine
[30/12/2014, 5:11:45 AM] Remy: Ten bucks says he's photoshopped his face into a sex scene with the Khaleesi
[30/12/2014, 5:11:59 AM] Rob: The sickest part of that is, isn't it her 13th birthday
[30/12/2014, 5:12:02 AM] Rob: when that scene happens
[30/12/2014, 5:12:21 AM] Remy: That artist created so much porn for so many closet perverts
[30/12/2014, 5:12:31 AM] Remy: Who are no not so closet perverts b/c they  never shut up about game of thrones
[30/12/2014, 5:12:33 AM] Rob: I'm really tempted to tweet out a screengrab
[30/12/2014, 5:12:37 AM] Rob: and point that out
[30/12/2014, 5:12:59 AM] Remy: I'm still hoping Chris checks in before his debate so he can see just how long Mike and Roosh have been buddies
[30/12/2014, 5:13:07 AM] Remy: All the way back to September 2011 man
[30/12/2014, 5:13:22 AM] Tesseract: no this shit is from years ago
[30/12/2014, 5:13:36 AM] Tesseract: don't tweet any of it or he'll realize I'm combing through his tweets
[30/12/2014, 5:13:44 AM] Remy: ^
[30/12/2014, 5:13:56 AM] Rob: oh okay, I won't
[30/12/2014, 5:14:11 AM] Tesseract: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously 8 Mar 2013

. @realmattforney I always suggest that people avoid poor people - even (and perhaps especially) family members. Nothing but trouble.
[30/12/2014, 5:14:19 AM] Remy: So far he is theoretically unaware of just how far back we have been inspecting and cataloguing his published thoughts
[30/12/2014, 5:14:36 AM] Rob: If Chris wants to go for a low blow
[30/12/2014, 5:14:42 AM] Rob: Quoting that tweet about daenerys and sex
[30/12/2014, 5:14:44 AM] Rob: and then following it with
[30/12/2014, 5:14:56 AM] Rob: "Why do you fantasize about having sex with 13 year old girls?"
[30/12/2014, 5:15:05 AM] Rob: Would be devestating
[30/12/2014, 5:15:47 AM] Tesseract: Matt Forney @realmattforney 8 Mar 2013

@atonthemelon @PlayDangerously I'm not a big fan of ICP, but Juggalo hate pisses me off, mainly because of its transparent hypocrisy.
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@realmattforney @atonthemelon I don't hate on 'em. I laugh. They are entertaining. (But yes they should stop breeding.)
[30/12/2014, 5:15:48 AM] drinternetphd: and again they keep ignoring the whole "its a restraining order" thing
[30/12/2014, 5:16:32 AM] SF: >He fornicates like the Dothraki from Game of Thrones

So he takes women as slaves and rapes them?
[30/12/2014, 5:17:07 AM] Rob: Not women.
[30/12/2014, 5:17:08 AM] Rob: 13 year old girls
[30/12/2014, 5:17:34 AM] Rob: Like the last line of the chapter is literally "It was her 13th birthday" or some shit.
[30/12/2014, 5:18:26 AM] SF: Probably also analogous.
[30/12/2014, 5:19:10 AM] SF: It kinda bugs me how people are seeing GoT as some redpill battle cry when really it seems more like it's critical of edgebros.
[30/12/2014, 5:19:28 AM] SF: I see less "might makes right" and more "eye for an eye makes the whole world blind".
[30/12/2014, 5:20:05 AM] SF: I took it as arguing that life is a chaotic unfair mess no matter what so clinging to humanity is all you have.
[30/12/2014, 5:20:34 AM] SF: But they probably see Little Finger as some kind of folk hero I guess.
[30/12/2014, 5:22:15 AM] Rob: Yar
[30/12/2014, 5:22:54 AM] Remy: So I've been toying with an idea and it's kinda smarmy but only a little bit and I actually like it but I wanna discuss it because I can sometimes get ahead of myself
[30/12/2014, 5:23:25 AM] Remy: Has anyone ever seen a scorpion sting itself? I guess what I'm trying to say is... would anybody like to see Mike C locked in a fight with a prominent member of the KKK?
[30/12/2014, 5:23:43 AM] Remy: Because I can TOTALLY e-mail the link to Mike C's tweet to that KKK dude from an anonymous account
[30/12/2014, 5:23:52 AM] Tesseract: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously Oct 23

.@rooshv @RebeccaVBrink In real life people always say, "You're so nice!" I'm this way online because that's the world Gawker made.
[30/12/2014, 5:24:05 AM] Rob: I wouldn't do it. It just gives Mike the opportunity to look good by bashing a Klansman
[30/12/2014, 5:24:19 AM] Tesseract: yeah
[30/12/2014, 5:24:29 AM] Remy: By sexually leering at his family members online?
[30/12/2014, 5:24:34 AM] David Gallant: "the world Gawker made"? Holy fucking delusional.
[30/12/2014, 5:24:45 AM] Rob: It won't matter.
[30/12/2014, 5:25:01 AM] Remy: Huh
[30/12/2014, 5:25:16 AM] Remy: Well this is why I say these things with trusted people before I start committing to a plan
[30/12/2014, 5:25:17 AM] Tesseract: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously Dec 3

My life became much easier when I realized I was nothing more than a piece of meat to women. I became less "try hard." @rooshv
[30/12/2014, 5:25:28 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[30/12/2014, 5:25:30 AM] Rob: It's the Klan. Even if Mike kept saying "I wanna bone your daughter" people wouldn't care
[30/12/2014, 5:25:41 AM] Rob: But Mike'd be far more likely to just start going after the dude being a Klansman in general
[30/12/2014, 5:25:44 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Heya Tess, you logging these tweets at all?
[30/12/2014, 5:25:50 AM] Tesseract: srh logged most of them for me
[30/12/2014, 5:25:55 AM] Alex Lifschitz: It would be a good way to have a Tweets of Note compendium.
[30/12/2014, 5:26:05 AM] Tesseract: I'm pasting them in a notepad file yes
[30/12/2014, 5:26:07 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Maybe a spreadsheet or some shit. URL and text.
[30/12/2014, 5:26:26 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Notepad file should work, I think gdocs might have a fancy tweet retrieval algorithm.
[30/12/2014, 5:28:02 AM] Remy: I guess I just was thinking I'd rather see Mike go after some dude for being a klansmen and distracted with that rather than constantly going after Zoe & Alex
[30/12/2014, 5:28:16 AM] Rob: It's an easy win for mike though
[30/12/2014, 5:28:19 AM] Rob: alas
[30/12/2014, 5:28:38 AM] Rob: Now, if it was a klansman who was an open gamer gater? That could work
[30/12/2014, 5:28:46 AM] Rob: because it could help create divisions in GG
[30/12/2014, 5:29:30 AM] David Gallant: I don't see value in going COINTELPRO on them, trying to create "division".
[30/12/2014, 5:29:43 AM] David Gallant: Their numbers have diminished but their impact has not.
[30/12/2014, 5:29:46 AM] Rob: I just mean if it's a situation like Hotwheels writing for stormfront.
[30/12/2014, 5:29:49 AM] David Gallant: They're still hurting people.
[30/12/2014, 5:29:55 AM] Tesseract: yeah we're not fucking roguestar, this is dumb
[30/12/2014, 5:30:23 AM] David Gallant: Hotwheels writing for Stormfront hasn't harmed them at all.
[30/12/2014, 5:30:33 AM] David Gallant: The CP proof hasn't harmed them at all.
[30/12/2014, 5:30:39 AM] Rob: Hasn't it got Nero and cernovich causing stuff?
[30/12/2014, 5:30:43 AM] Tesseract: it will but not by causing division
[30/12/2014, 5:31:06 AM] Tesseract: we can't make them fight each other, all we can do is drive off moderates
[30/12/2014, 5:31:07 AM] David Gallant: They revel in their disgustingness no matter how much of it we point out.
[30/12/2014, 5:32:57 AM] David Gallant: The more time passes, the more I believe the only thing that MIGHT make an actual impact is an honest-to-goodness conviction.
[30/12/2014, 5:33:10 AM] David Gallant: And I'm losing faith that that will ever happen.
[30/12/2014, 5:34:30 AM] David Gallant: Sorry. Not in a good place about this lately.
[30/12/2014, 5:34:59 AM] Rob: Understandable
[30/12/2014, 5:35:15 AM] Remy: okay folks, my bad
[30/12/2014, 5:35:27 AM] Remy: I just wanted to take a nuisance off our plate for a minute
[30/12/2014, 5:35:35 AM] Remy: I didn't want to go full Shady Villain on you
[30/12/2014, 5:35:57 AM] Remy: But that's why I wanted to talk it out first and let calmer, wiser mind than mine call me out when I get too ahead of myself
[30/12/2014, 5:35:59 AM] Remy: my bad
[30/12/2014, 5:36:13 AM] David Gallant: S'okay.
[30/12/2014, 5:36:30 AM] Remy: ^_^" I'm still trying to teach myself a lot of things
[30/12/2014, 5:40:21 AM] David Gallant: Who remembers this gem? http://www.notsorryfeminism.com/2014/08/gaming-companies-to-support.html
[30/12/2014, 5:42:33 AM] Remy: Oh wow David you were on their radar a lot sooner than I'd realized
[30/12/2014, 5:43:36 AM] Remy: Like...
[30/12/2014, 5:43:40 AM] Remy: From the start basically
[30/12/2014, 5:44:27 AM] David Gallant: Yup.
[30/12/2014, 5:44:35 AM] David Gallant: That was one of Fart's graphics.
[30/12/2014, 5:45:10 AM] David Gallant: Zoe is a friend. I've been loud about GG before GG had a name, back when it was just that stupid post.
[30/12/2014, 5:45:11 AM] Remy: Sorry this has been weird for me from day one. I've always just played games and then talked about them. Before I was aware of all of the harassment and abuse flying around I'd never engaged with or conceived of a developer as an individual
[30/12/2014, 5:45:34 AM] Remy: Which is a disturbing thing to learn about myself
[30/12/2014, 5:46:44 AM] Remy: I wonder how early I was clued in. I feel like I distinctly remember being around before and during when Baldwin first coined the GG brand and knowing it was a BS hashtag
[30/12/2014, 5:47:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I remember when the ZoePost stuff went down on reddit (when threads were being mass deleted). I didn't really pay attention until October and then i didn't get involved until the end of October
[30/12/2014, 5:47:39 AM] Remy: But memory is constructive and mine is more suspect than others for various reasons
[30/12/2014, 5:49:40 AM] David Gallant: I won't get into details, but Zoe's been through some shit. When thezoepost hit, it was a gut punch. I knew shit was gonna get bad.
[30/12/2014, 5:49:46 AM] David Gallant: I never thought it would get this bad.
[30/12/2014, 5:52:56 AM] Dan Olson: Bah, almost 3, gotta get to the bank
[30/12/2014, 5:53:01 AM] Dan Olson: but it's cold outside
[30/12/2014, 5:53:07 AM] Dan Olson: and my car is covered in snow
[30/12/2014, 5:53:17 AM] Remy: Well I'm glad she's had trustworthy people from the start like good folks like you, David
[30/12/2014, 5:53:51 AM] Remy: I felt so weird every time I tried to reach out b/c I had to remind myself I'm a perfect stranger and I was only aware of her at the time b/c of all the attention she didn't want
[30/12/2014, 5:54:03 AM] Remy: I didn't want to accidentally contribute to the harassment with my good intentions x-x
[30/12/2014, 5:54:44 AM] Remy: And honestly dudes have kind-of ruined offers of help from anonymous strangers for everyone  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[30/12/2014, 5:54:59 AM] Remy: Shit just looks creepy every time
[30/12/2014, 5:55:04 AM] David Gallant: Even as her friend, I have always been worried about the same.
[30/12/2014, 5:56:10 AM] Remy: Also for some people like me it's just hard to fight the urge to run toward the sound of gunfire 'cause it usually means someone needs backup
[30/12/2014, 5:56:33 AM] Remy: I have the worst reflexes when the first punch is thrown but I have the best instinct when the fight is on
[30/12/2014, 6:02:24 AM] David Gallant: At least that means you likely won't be the aggressor in a lot of situations, Stephen.
[30/12/2014, 6:03:02 AM] Veerender Jubbal: blows kiss at Stephen and Dan
[30/12/2014, 6:04:01 AM] Remy: <3
[30/12/2014, 6:04:17 AM] David Gallant: Heya Veerender.
[30/12/2014, 6:04:18 AM] Remy: I try not to start fights
[30/12/2014, 6:04:53 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Hey, David!
[30/12/2014, 6:04:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzlymhHLEz1qzlvmi.gif
[30/12/2014, 6:05:20 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Cutie.
[30/12/2014, 6:07:15 AM] Remy: I wish I could re-tweet myself https://twitter.com/StephenAtWar/status/500038071224922113
[30/12/2014, 6:07:16 AM] Veerender Jubbal: If I do not have you on Steam! My Steam is, "[REDACTED]".
[30/12/2014, 6:09:13 AM] Quinnae: Hey everyone
[30/12/2014, 6:09:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): hey!
[30/12/2014, 6:09:59 AM] David Gallant: Hey Katherine.
[30/12/2014, 6:10:09 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Hey, Katherine!
[30/12/2014, 6:10:55 AM] Remy: Wow my whole August twitter timeline is just me losing my fucking mind when the Ferguson shooting and protests first kicked up.
[30/12/2014, 6:11:10 AM] Rob: Hey katherine
[30/12/2014, 6:11:11 AM] Remy: And occasionally gushing over FemFreq videos
[30/12/2014, 6:11:41 AM] Remy: I wish I could go back and warn myself to just never look at the internet and skip everything until 2015
[30/12/2014, 6:12:00 AM] Remy: Just, like... Turn off the tv. Turn off the internet. Go to school. Ignore the entire world
[30/12/2014, 6:12:05 AM] Remy: And skip all of those panic attacks
[30/12/2014, 6:13:30 AM] Remy: lol so Rogue just RTed this https://twitter.com/draginol/status/549664127468437505
[30/12/2014, 6:13:38 AM] Remy: Personally I think Brad Wardell needs to listen to his father more
[30/12/2014, 6:20:39 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): oh! less than 2 hours until the Chris Kluwe/Mike C debate
[30/12/2014, 6:20:56 AM] Veerender Jubbal: What?
[30/12/2014, 6:21:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I forgot who challenged who, but Christ Kluwe and Mike Cernovich will be live-streaming a debate or one-on-one discussion at 4pm Pacific
[30/12/2014, 6:21:49 AM] David Gallant: Oh right. 4pm Pacific.
[30/12/2014, 6:22:03 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Oh,, my God.
[30/12/2014, 6:22:09 AM] David Gallant: Pretty sure Cernovich challenged Kluwe
[30/12/2014, 6:22:14 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): if Mike shows up, it will stream here: #collusion
[30/12/2014, 6:22:16 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): oops
[30/12/2014, 6:22:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[30/12/2014, 6:22:39 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Damn.
[30/12/2014, 6:22:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): http://www.twitch.tv/loate
[30/12/2014, 6:22:48 AM] David Gallant: Best mispaste ever.
[30/12/2014, 6:22:51 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): kik
[30/12/2014, 6:22:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[30/12/2014, 6:23:04 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): was not a password
[30/12/2014, 6:23:09 AM] Quinnae: I really hope this debate does more good than harm.
[30/12/2014, 6:23:09 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): i swear
[30/12/2014, 6:23:27 AM] Remy: If I recall correctly
[30/12/2014, 6:23:34 AM] Remy: Mike through the challenge
[30/12/2014, 6:23:46 AM] Remy: Probably idly, expecting a denial but also distantly hoping for any kind of conflict
[30/12/2014, 6:23:55 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah, initially I was concerned about it. Chris put my mind to ease a bit yesterday.
[30/12/2014, 6:24:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): We'll see
[30/12/2014, 6:24:14 AM] Remy: Chris saw a chance to hand a man a shovel and watch him dig his own holes
[30/12/2014, 6:27:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOLOL: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549693083831390208
[30/12/2014, 6:28:04 AM] SF: David: The long term impact I see here is not putting these particular assholes behind bars so much as bringing about a cultural shift, particularly in the tech industry.
[30/12/2014, 6:28:59 AM] SF: Every bit of noise we generate about this makes it harder for industry representatives to go on pretending this isn't a pervasive sickness people are dealing with hidden in plain view.
[30/12/2014, 6:29:20 AM] David Gallant: That's what I WANT to see happen, but I don't see anything we've done so far be at all effective in that regard.
[30/12/2014, 6:29:33 AM] David Gallant: The members of the industry who have been silent, remain silent.
[30/12/2014, 6:29:53 AM] Rob: It's also only been a few months.
[30/12/2014, 6:30:04 AM] Rob: I think you're going to start seeing more changes coming.
[30/12/2014, 6:30:10 AM] David Gallant: Hell, just look at Derek Smart yelling at Brianna that GG isn't the "industry's fight" and to stop dragging the industry into it.
[30/12/2014, 6:30:39 AM] David Gallant: Rob - you see months as a short amount of time. I see it as damn near an eternity.
[30/12/2014, 6:30:47 AM] SF: I see him yelling at her as progress. Before recently the exchange wouldn't have happened.
[30/12/2014, 6:31:05 AM] Rob: Sure, and I have the benefit of being able to walk away at any time.
[30/12/2014, 6:31:08 AM] Rob: Because it doesn't directly affect me
[30/12/2014, 6:31:35 AM] Rob: But flipping an entire industry on this takes time, alas. There's pretty big names who ARE speaking out about this, though, and that's really good.
[30/12/2014, 6:32:21 AM] Rob: And the fact that people are standing up and going "No, fuck you" to GG and a lot of this harassment will hopefully encourage more progressive, younger people to either enter the field or stay in it
[30/12/2014, 6:32:26 AM] David Gallant: I dunno. You folks see progress. I see more of the same. I wish I could share your optimism.
[30/12/2014, 6:32:43 AM] SF: BELIEVE ME this isn't optimism.
[30/12/2014, 6:33:03 AM] SF: I'd be looking at another industry if I didn't believe they weren't just about all this shitty.
[30/12/2014, 6:33:09 AM] David Gallant: Honestly tell me who has spoken up recently to go "fuck GG" who is also someone major in games.
[30/12/2014, 6:33:24 AM] Rob: David gaider? tim Schafer?
[30/12/2014, 6:33:25 AM] SF: Basically all the indie devs I respect have.
[30/12/2014, 6:33:36 AM] SF: And they're the new generation replacing the old.
[30/12/2014, 6:33:54 AM] Rob: morhaime from blizzard
[30/12/2014, 6:33:54 AM] David Gallant: Don't get me started on indie devs.
[30/12/2014, 6:34:17 AM] Rob: I mean Morhaime told them to go fuck themselves at Blizzcon itself
[30/12/2014, 6:34:20 AM] Rob: Which is a pretty big deal
[30/12/2014, 6:34:35 AM] SF: And Blizzard isn't exactly a bastion of progressivism.
[30/12/2014, 6:34:41 AM] David Gallant: You mean that speech that they kept quibbling over whether it was about them or not?
[30/12/2014, 6:34:52 AM] Rob: He said it was about them when there was confusion
[30/12/2014, 6:35:05 AM] David Gallant: Yeah. He had to clarify.
[30/12/2014, 6:35:30 AM] SF: Don't get me wrong I'd love for it to all be more direct too.
[30/12/2014, 6:35:36 AM] David Gallant: And none of this shit you're bringing up is recent.
[30/12/2014, 6:35:45 AM] Rob: November?
[30/12/2014, 6:36:07 AM] Rob: and Schafer wa in that femfreq video at the beginning of the month
[30/12/2014, 6:36:12 AM] David Gallant: I'm sorry I'm being aggressive here, I'm just seeing little outbursts rather than a positive trend.
[30/12/2014, 6:36:30 AM] SF: Don't be sorry, I feel that frustration too.
[30/12/2014, 6:36:42 AM] SF: This was my debut year. I got to Eden and found it on fire.
[30/12/2014, 6:36:51 AM] David Gallant: I'm so sorry, SF.
[30/12/2014, 6:37:17 AM] David Gallant: I used to think games were Eden too. That dream was dashed well before GG.
[30/12/2014, 6:37:47 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Video games are garbage.
[30/12/2014, 6:38:53 AM] David Gallant: Exactly, Veerender.
[30/12/2014, 6:39:01 AM] Remy: Image
[30/12/2014, 6:39:10 AM] David Gallant: I don't see a trend of improvement, even with these little victories.
[30/12/2014, 6:39:38 AM] David Gallant: Hell, even just listing them here comes off like GG's pathetic list of victories.
[30/12/2014, 6:40:42 AM] SF: I think that's partly because within our circles there's so much silence from authority figures.
[30/12/2014, 6:41:11 AM] SF: As far as the public at large goes, GG is a laughing stock associated with attacking marginalized devs, and defending CP.
[30/12/2014, 6:41:32 AM] SF: I can't think of any way they could have lost harder than that.
[30/12/2014, 6:41:44 AM] David Gallant: Stephen, is she a gater?
[30/12/2014, 6:41:52 AM] SF: So it's "only" our home turf that needs fixing.
[30/12/2014, 6:42:16 AM] David Gallant: That's true.
[30/12/2014, 6:42:20 AM] SF: And again I don't mean to sound optimistic, I'm just doing my best to be as emotionless as possible about it, because it's the only way I can survive.
[30/12/2014, 6:43:02 AM] Remy: David: yes
[30/12/2014, 6:43:15 AM] Remy: Apparently she's been getting cozy with the GG crowd
[30/12/2014, 6:43:20 AM] Remy: Shady Villain has a crush on her I think
[30/12/2014, 6:43:31 AM] Rob: I'm also not optimistic. I just look at how long other shit has taken and apply appropriate scales.
[30/12/2014, 6:43:33 AM] Remy: But she's been a supporter for months
[30/12/2014, 6:44:24 AM] David Gallant: I just looked at her feed and she's tweeting to chobitcoin and Oliver Campbell. Plus she was already blocked by me at some point, probably by ggautoblocker.
[30/12/2014, 6:44:53 AM] Rob: I mean we're still fighting over abortion access like 40 years after Roe
[30/12/2014, 6:44:54 AM] Rob: etc
[30/12/2014, 6:45:15 AM] SF: I came to the weird realization through this too that my career goal was like most people's in that I wanted respect or celebrity or recognition or whatever, but GG reminded me that I don't actually want any of that.
[30/12/2014, 6:45:45 AM] SF: I still enjoy the act of creation. And I knew gamers were awful before this started. So from a certain angle, the equation hasn't changed.
[30/12/2014, 6:46:02 AM] Quinnae: catches up Well this is interesting.
[30/12/2014, 6:46:04 AM] SF: I can do art and make money doing it and shape a bit of culture while I'm at it. How many people are that lucky?
[30/12/2014, 6:46:06 AM] David Gallant: Hear hear. I've had my celebrity moment and, quite frankly, it's overrated.
[30/12/2014, 6:46:34 AM] David Gallant: Not many of us, SF. And honestly... thank you. Those words right now, I think I needed to hear them.
[30/12/2014, 6:46:35 AM] SF: (Still working on the make money part)
[30/12/2014, 6:46:35 AM] Remy: This is why I will be writing under pseudonyms <3
[30/12/2014, 6:46:42 AM] David Gallant: (see them, whatever)
[30/12/2014, 6:46:46 AM] Remy: That and I'm a bundle of identity issues calling itself a person anyway
[30/12/2014, 6:47:20 AM] SF: We'll get through this <3 You and I and all the others. We only met each other because we have the common feature of noble intentions. Nothing else.
[30/12/2014, 6:47:20 AM] Remy: And yes, well spoken, wolf <3
[30/12/2014, 6:47:28 AM] Quinnae: Realistically, if video games were garbage and irredeemable and terrible, I wouldn't be here. I'd have sat out GG and worked on something more important, were that the case.
[30/12/2014, 6:47:45 AM] David Gallant: Hearing word that Hatred was greelit by Valve.
[30/12/2014, 6:47:47 AM] Quinnae: I wouldn't write about games, advocate for/through them, or care about them. Or even play them.
[30/12/2014, 6:47:49 AM] Rob: Ditto, Katherine, for what little my participation matters
[30/12/2014, 6:47:55 AM] Remy: Yeah Valve changed their mind
[30/12/2014, 6:48:25 AM] Remy: My guess is at first the CEO whatsisname was very eager to douse a video game that was gaining so much negative violent publicity so shortly after receiving death threats
[30/12/2014, 6:48:28 AM] David Gallant: Well, all Valve did before was allow it back onto Greenlight, to get voted on and maybe selected for Steam later.
[30/12/2014, 6:48:30 AM] Quinnae: Really, the only thing cynicism does is make me feel like I'm wasting my time.
[30/12/2014, 6:48:36 AM] Remy: But was calmed down when his advisors explained how much money could be made
[30/12/2014, 6:49:00 AM] Remy: Oh you're right. I haven't actually heard if it was successful but I suspect it would be. It's had it's minute in the limelight
[30/12/2014, 6:49:04 AM] SF: I think one of the Valve high ups nixed the game without due process which was why Newell reinstated it and apologized.
[30/12/2014, 6:49:18 AM] Rob: Katherine: I'm fairly cynical, but that's mainly due to Poli Sci and Public Policy (and life experience) beating optimism out of me.
[30/12/2014, 6:49:31 AM] Rob: A lot of these people are people I've been fighting for years, though, so... fuck it.
[30/12/2014, 6:49:35 AM] SF: They're playing everything pretty strictly hands off and they're consistent about that so I don't feel like they're nearly as evil as some of the other players.
[30/12/2014, 6:49:54 AM] SF: They NEED to take responsibility for what goes on in their community spaces though, and that isn't new.
[30/12/2014, 6:49:55 AM] Remy: I have managed to compartmentalize my cynicism into just giving up on adults
[30/12/2014, 6:49:58 AM] Remy: They're too stubborn
[30/12/2014, 6:49:59 AM] David Gallant: Yup, it's true http://t.co/wExwpTqobG
[30/12/2014, 6:50:17 AM] Remy: I need to tell the children what values they should hold dear when they are adults so they can change the world
[30/12/2014, 6:50:26 AM] David Gallant: SF - there isn't even such a thing as due process when it comes to Greenlight, as far as outsiders are concerned.
[30/12/2014, 6:50:35 AM] David Gallant: There is zero transparency to the greenlight process.
[30/12/2014, 6:51:04 AM] Remy: Ugh
[30/12/2014, 6:51:10 AM] Remy: Great
[30/12/2014, 6:51:17 AM] Remy: A literal serial killer simulator
[30/12/2014, 6:51:19 AM] Rob: I do agree w/ some people to an extent re: Hatred being pulled when there are literally broken games that are pure cashgrabs that are allowed to stay up
[30/12/2014, 6:51:43 AM] SF: Agreed. They eschewed transparency for just opening the floodgates.
[30/12/2014, 6:51:56 AM] Rob: Hatred is fucking sickening and I don't have an issue w/ it being pulled, but it's just another long list in the "greenlight is fucked up and valve needs to control it better" saga
[30/12/2014, 6:52:14 AM] David Gallant: If we're gonna make that "Hatred vs broken games" argument, can we first acknowledge the difference between being on GREENLIGHT versus being on STEAM?
[30/12/2014, 6:52:17 AM] Remy: Well I doubt Steam will revise their Greenlight rules unless people become so disillusioned that they go find a different model to work with
[30/12/2014, 6:52:28 AM] SF: The community is really divided on what direction they want Valve to go.
[30/12/2014, 6:52:42 AM] David Gallant: SF - the floodgates aren't open. They still have final say in what gets chosen to make it to Steam. They always have.
[30/12/2014, 6:52:43 AM] SF: People were screaming when it was heavily curated, now people are screaming that all the garbage is there after they lowered the bar.
[30/12/2014, 6:53:13 AM] Rob: Sure, and Valve does sell broken games on steam too
[30/12/2014, 6:53:14 AM] SF: True, bad metaphor on my part. I was referring to the sudden lowering of quality standards that happened recently.
[30/12/2014, 6:54:08 AM] David Gallant: True. Valve has let in a lot of crap, but remember that the one thing that's NOT a part of the Greenlight selection process is giving Valve a build of your game.
[30/12/2014, 6:54:23 AM] David Gallant: Valve literally never plays your game before Greenlighting you.
[30/12/2014, 6:54:25 AM] SF: Wow really? That's worse than I thought.
[30/12/2014, 6:54:58 AM] David Gallant: You can be greenlit without even having a working build. There are games that have been Greenlit that are on indefinite hiatus or canceled, like Shadows of the Eternals.
[30/12/2014, 6:55:07 AM] SF: If Hatred is what needs to happen to bring sufficient attention to this maybe it'll have a net positive effect in the long term.
[30/12/2014, 6:55:22 AM] Rob: Also, Postal 2 is sold on steam too
[30/12/2014, 6:55:30 AM] David Gallant: Valve's process is such that they'll never KNOW if a game is broken until it's being sold to customers.
[30/12/2014, 6:55:34 AM] Rob: Manhunt 1/2 aren't, IIRC
[30/12/2014, 6:55:57 AM] SF: Yeah Postal 2 is not that much better, it just hasn't had literal Nazis rallying around it as an anti-social justice banner.
[30/12/2014, 6:56:05 AM] Rob: Right.
[30/12/2014, 6:56:11 AM] Rob: And Valve needs to be policing the FUCK out of that forum
[30/12/2014, 6:56:34 AM] Rob: THAT'S the thing that bothers me the most: from what I understand, Valve hasn't done anything re: the people going 'put anita in there for me to murder' sort of crap.
[30/12/2014, 6:56:37 AM] SF: Every Steam community page should just be deleted forever. They all suck and are worthless.
[30/12/2014, 6:56:42 AM] David Gallant: Pfft, Valve don't hire fucking moderators.
[30/12/2014, 6:56:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): They even asked to put Veerender in the game
[30/12/2014, 6:57:00 AM] SF: And I agree that in particular is the sticking point for me more than the game.
[30/12/2014, 6:57:03 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): it's so fucked up
[30/12/2014, 6:57:16 AM] David Gallant: I haven't even looked into whether I can disable / delete / prevent from ever existing IGTCED's community page.
[30/12/2014, 6:57:41 AM] SF: Someone should try to make a point by submitting Beat Up Anita Sarkeesian to Greenlight hahaha
[30/12/2014, 6:57:51 AM] SF: I'd do that just as performance art if it didn't cost $100.
[30/12/2014, 6:58:14 AM] SF: (...and no one would get the joke and I'd get depressed probably)
[30/12/2014, 6:58:33 AM] Rob: It'd be greenlit and approved and the top selling game on steam within an hour.
[30/12/2014, 6:58:56 AM] David Gallant: Well, a developer who has already paid the $100 could do it. The fee is one-time, not per game.
[30/12/2014, 6:59:14 AM] SF: Oooh
[30/12/2014, 6:59:16 AM] David Gallant: But it could easily be reported as a stolen idea by Ben Spurr, as it is his work.
[30/12/2014, 6:59:26 AM] SF: Oh right. Bah.
[30/12/2014, 7:01:59 AM] Remy: Okay so basically Valve is going to continue evolving into a toxic community with haphazard business practices
[30/12/2014, 7:02:03 AM] Remy: My question is how to we replace them
[30/12/2014, 7:02:12 AM] Remy: And don't say Origin
[30/12/2014, 7:02:18 AM] Rob: GOG.
[30/12/2014, 7:02:33 AM] Rob: I mean, I don't use steam community features that much
[30/12/2014, 7:02:35 AM] Remy: I do tend to get a good vibe from the people at GOG
[30/12/2014, 7:02:43 AM] Rob: But GoG forums (From the few times I've perused them) have generally been helpful
[30/12/2014, 7:04:18 AM] David Gallant: LOL GoG
[30/12/2014, 7:06:02 AM] Rob: Look man I just want to play betrayal at krondor okay :C
[30/12/2014, 7:06:19 AM] David Gallant: Speaking of GoG https://twitter.com/davidsgallant/status/436244448608260097
[30/12/2014, 7:08:48 AM] Remy: Speaking of video games
[30/12/2014, 7:09:00 AM] Remy: My husband is dying of laughter reading the Elder Scrolls Online response to customer complaints
[30/12/2014, 7:09:19 AM] Remy: He and I were both dying for that game but then we tried out both the beta and the PC release and realized it was unfinished and deeply flawed
[30/12/2014, 7:09:27 AM] Remy: And the reason we both wanted PS4 was to play that game together x-x
[30/12/2014, 7:09:53 AM] Remy: I was gonna stick w/it but he convinced me to pull out. Apparently they just pushed their console release again, this time back to December of 2015
[30/12/2014, 7:10:12 AM] Remy: The game released a year ago
[30/12/2014, 7:10:34 AM] David Gallant: Doesn't it still require a monthly subscription?
[30/12/2014, 7:10:38 AM] Remy: yup
[30/12/2014, 7:10:43 AM] Rob: Holy shit lol
[30/12/2014, 7:11:01 AM] Remy: They pulled a Ubisoft but they've been keeping it quiet b/c nobody remembers ESO
[30/12/2014, 7:11:48 AM] Remy: Oh and when I said "How are we going to replace Steam" I didn't mean who do we go to to buy games now
[30/12/2014, 7:11:49 AM] Remy: I mean
[30/12/2014, 7:11:55 AM] Remy: How can we build a better Steam?
[30/12/2014, 7:12:09 AM] Remy: And curate a strong, friendly, safe community while still encouraging creativity
[30/12/2014, 7:12:18 AM] David Gallant: Easy.
[30/12/2014, 7:12:21 AM] Remy: it can be done but apparently we have to fucking prove it before anyone will give it a try
[30/12/2014, 7:12:22 AM] David Gallant: Abandon Steam.
[30/12/2014, 7:12:29 AM] David Gallant: Support http://itch.io
[30/12/2014, 7:12:55 AM] Remy: ooh, cool website
[30/12/2014, 7:13:24 AM] Remy: lol and it has a hunk spanking game
[30/12/2014, 7:13:28 AM] David Gallant: It's the best place for devs to sell games right now. Super-accessible, constantly growing, excellent revshare arrangement.
[30/12/2014, 7:13:33 AM] Remy: talk about a real life simulator
[30/12/2014, 7:13:53 AM] Remy: I'll have to check this place out if I ever get traction on this Internal Affairs idea
[30/12/2014, 7:14:05 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Someone will put me in that game, and shoot my head off.
[30/12/2014, 7:14:09 AM] Remy: I've downloaded the Ren'Py system and I'm going to start teaching myself over the next couple of months, but I want to also focus on my sci-fi short story
[30/12/2014, 7:14:15 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I have tweets.
[30/12/2014, 7:14:23 AM] David Gallant: Cool, good start, Stephen!
[30/12/2014, 7:14:35 AM] David Gallant: Veerender - FUCK
[30/12/2014, 7:16:06 AM] Remy: I really don't have the strength to enter that horrible, horrible world, Veerender. I hope I don't seem insensitive if I just close my eyes and la la la la right now
[30/12/2014, 7:24:33 AM] Dan Olson: so turns out that "mess up a GameStop and mace an employee" person was the Sonichu writer.
[30/12/2014, 7:24:41 AM] Tesseract: what
[30/12/2014, 7:24:50 AM] Charloppe: yep
[30/12/2014, 7:25:43 AM] Remy: Um
[30/12/2014, 7:25:49 AM] Remy: I don't understand any of what Dan said
[30/12/2014, 7:26:04 AM] Remy: But I want to be intimately familiar with the details now because I sense they are hilarious?
[30/12/2014, 7:26:20 AM] Dan Olson: yeah, Chris Chan, the creator of Sonichu, went into a GameStop, knocked a bunch of shit off shelves, and then pepper sprayed an employee on the way out
[30/12/2014, 7:26:32 AM] Remy: What is a Sonichu?
[30/12/2014, 7:26:35 AM] Dan Olson: OH
[30/12/2014, 7:26:36 AM] Dan Olson: well
[30/12/2014, 7:26:40 AM] Charloppe: here we go
[30/12/2014, 7:26:41 AM] Dan Olson: hold onto your genitals
[30/12/2014, 7:26:42 AM] Tesseract: oh boy
[30/12/2014, 7:26:49 AM] Charloppe: pls
[30/12/2014, 7:26:51 AM] Charloppe: no
[30/12/2014, 7:27:02 AM] Remy: wait so whatever a Sonichu is is worse than what he did to those GameStop employees?
[30/12/2014, 7:27:06 AM] Remy: Because that was assault at the very least
[30/12/2014, 7:27:27 AM] Dan Olson: http://thedailypos.org/misc/sonichu/Issue%204/SchuSubE3P06.jpg
[30/12/2014, 7:27:29 AM] Charloppe: its hard to explain
[30/12/2014, 7:27:42 AM] Remy: Chris is an ambiguous name so I just flipped a coin when I said "he" btw
[30/12/2014, 7:28:02 AM] Charloppe: honestly i dont know how to adress chris
[30/12/2014, 7:28:07 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Chris Chan has been a target of harassment and trolling from Encyclopedia and 4chan for many years.
[30/12/2014, 7:28:17 AM] Dan Olson: Now, it's worth noting that Chris is honest to goodness mentally disabled.
[30/12/2014, 7:28:23 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yes
[30/12/2014, 7:28:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): The whole situation is fucked up
[30/12/2014, 7:28:35 AM] Charloppe: agreed
[30/12/2014, 7:28:59 AM] Remy: Okay wait
[30/12/2014, 7:29:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Lots of info here (some NSFW): http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/chris-chan-cwc-christian-weston-chandler
[30/12/2014, 7:29:22 AM] Remy: So this neuroatypical dude is getting harassed by that toxic cloud of darkness
[30/12/2014, 7:29:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yes.
[30/12/2014, 7:29:35 AM] Charloppe: pretty much
[30/12/2014, 7:29:36 AM] Remy: And so they obviously exacerbate his situation emotionally
[30/12/2014, 7:29:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yup
[30/12/2014, 7:29:48 AM] Charloppe: chris is a easy target in many ways
[30/12/2014, 7:29:49 AM] Remy: I'm connecting the dots now
[30/12/2014, 7:29:52 AM] Dan Olson: so I try to avoid saying much about him, because his whole situation, like he'll get into arguments about misgendering, but no one's sure if that's just him parroting something he read elsewhere online and doesn't understand.
[30/12/2014, 7:30:10 AM] Dan Olson: So he's an easy target for harassment, but he also stalks women
[30/12/2014, 7:30:26 AM] Dan Olson: it's very fucked
[30/12/2014, 7:30:36 AM] Charloppe: also the ed article on chris is very fucked up
[30/12/2014, 7:30:50 AM] Remy: He should obviously be addressed by professionals and left alone by everyone else. WTF humanity
[30/12/2014, 7:30:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I haven't even checked it out. The last ED article I saw was Randi's and it's so evil and fucked up
[30/12/2014, 7:31:07 AM] Remy: agreed, Izzy
[30/12/2014, 7:31:17 AM] Charloppe: its dehumanizing to say the leas
[30/12/2014, 7:31:21 AM] Charloppe: least
[30/12/2014, 7:31:29 AM] Remy: The last one I saw was the link on Randi and the link on porn 'cause i was e-mailing them to Patreon with huge disclaimers b/c all of that shit is fucked
[30/12/2014, 7:32:14 AM] Dan Olson: all that said, Sonichu is like those brutalist cement sculptures made by paranoid schizophrenics - utterly fascinating in its raw disconnect from the ordinary cycles of inspiration
[30/12/2014, 7:32:44 AM] Charloppe: sonichu is kinda almost revenge porn is certain areas
[30/12/2014, 7:33:20 AM] Dan Olson: yeah
[30/12/2014, 7:33:22 AM] Dan Olson: very weird
[30/12/2014, 7:33:50 AM] Charloppe: i honestly feel bad. this is the result of untreated mental illness combined with some other things
[30/12/2014, 7:34:42 AM] Dan Olson: pretty much
[30/12/2014, 7:35:29 AM] Remy: Oh speak of the devil I just got an e-mail from Medium saying my complain about that dox on zoe's affidavit
[30/12/2014, 7:35:32 AM] Charloppe: i obviously think how hes treated women in the past is fucked up but chris is just so complicated to sum up easily
[30/12/2014, 7:35:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Stephen, what did they say?
[30/12/2014, 7:36:01 AM] Remy: They said it has been resolved. funny because the link still works
[30/12/2014, 7:36:09 AM] Remy: https://medium.com/@brokenomelette/understanding-the-zoe-affidavit-29d001415f23
[30/12/2014, 7:39:21 AM] drinternetphd: :|
[30/12/2014, 7:39:35 AM] Peter Coffin: what does resolved mean then
[30/12/2014, 7:39:42 AM] Peter Coffin: “eh, fuck it?”
[30/12/2014, 7:39:50 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: So... this is probably the worst place to ask, but anything positive and uplifting going on today?
[30/12/2014, 7:39:54 AM] drinternetphd: meanwhile my ex is praising hotwheels while taking the chance to dig at me http://antinegationism.tumblr.com/post/106385386261/the-nth-angel-antinegationism
[30/12/2014, 7:40:11 AM] Peter Coffin: as he hangs out in pedo heaven with his pedo board
[30/12/2014, 7:40:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Zoe, KiA is promoting Eron's fundraising hard today, too :/
[30/12/2014, 7:40:28 AM] drinternetphd: I am aware.
[30/12/2014, 7:41:09 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): My comment that says "But GamerGate is not about Zoe Quinn..." is at -64 points!
[30/12/2014, 7:41:28 AM] drinternetphd: I like how no one says it's a restraining order
[30/12/2014, 7:41:31 AM] drinternetphd: when that's all it is
[30/12/2014, 7:41:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): YOU TOOKS HIS FREEZE PEACH
[30/12/2014, 7:41:57 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: OH!
[30/12/2014, 7:42:03 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I only just got that
[30/12/2014, 7:42:36 AM] drinternetphd: look he just really, really, legally needs to try and ruin my life
[30/12/2014, 7:42:43 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Kept seeing people saying that and thinking it was slang for something really awful I didn't want to know anything about.
[30/12/2014, 7:42:47 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Which... I mean I guess is still true.
[30/12/2014, 7:42:52 AM] Tesseract: haha
[30/12/2014, 7:42:55 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): "freeze peach"?
[30/12/2014, 7:43:14 AM] drinternetphd: say it out loud
[30/12/2014, 7:43:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah, it's like misogyny --> "muh soggy knees"
[30/12/2014, 7:43:21 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: freeze peach="free speach"=what 8chan calls child porn
[30/12/2014, 7:43:31 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: speech even
[30/12/2014, 7:43:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): 8chan calls child porn "delicious cake"
[30/12/2014, 7:43:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/this-is-delicious-cake (NSFW)
[30/12/2014, 7:44:10 AM] Dan Olson: What's funny is that this 8chan CP issue is one that I've been railing on for months
[30/12/2014, 7:44:20 AM] Remy: ^
[30/12/2014, 7:44:31 AM] Remy: It's true this is not news for me, either
[30/12/2014, 7:44:36 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: same
[30/12/2014, 7:45:00 AM] Remy: But I also knew they were successfully hiding behind their veneers of "legality" etc
[30/12/2014, 7:45:15 AM] Remy: It's so wonderful to see the story finally gaining some traction
[30/12/2014, 7:45:27 AM] Dan Olson: ever since https://twitter.com/FoldableHuman/status/522233664290447360
[30/12/2014, 7:45:31 AM] Remy: We may actually be able to pull some good out of GG's filthy ass
[30/12/2014, 7:45:43 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: if learning 8chan is full of child porn doesn't immediately change your priorities to seeing it wiped off the face of the earth, there's something really wrong with you
[30/12/2014, 7:46:19 AM] Remy: omg Dan I think I remember that tweet
[30/12/2014, 7:46:26 AM] Remy: I'm surprised I didn't RT it
[30/12/2014, 7:47:43 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: was "cake" code for lolis (as in drawn) or CP?
[30/12/2014, 7:48:05 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): the Know Your Meme page says actual CP
[30/12/2014, 7:48:11 AM] Remy: I think it was code for illustrated
[30/12/2014, 7:48:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I don't know in 8chan's case (re: that list)
[30/12/2014, 7:49:44 AM] Remy: So I keep hearing that Brennan lives in the Philippines and I can't stop interpreting that as an urban myth even though I've heard it said in here as actual fact. So... just tell me straight up
[30/12/2014, 7:49:48 AM] Remy: Does he srsly live there?
[30/12/2014, 7:49:59 AM] Chris Kluwe: EMBRACE DEBATE
[30/12/2014, 7:50:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): He does. He moved there this year
[30/12/2014, 7:50:01 AM] Tesseract: he claims to
[30/12/2014, 7:50:08 AM] Remy: OMG CHRIS
[30/12/2014, 7:50:12 AM] Tesseract: I mean I'm sure he could be bullshitting us but probably not
[30/12/2014, 7:50:20 AM] Tesseract: oh god
[30/12/2014, 7:50:23 AM] Dan Olson: I've always seen it used somewhat liberally for anything that would appeal to pedophiles.
[30/12/2014, 7:50:39 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Peter found that one picture that was shared on reddit with Hotwheels at a club in the Phillipines with a bunch of teenage girls in Bikinis
[30/12/2014, 7:50:46 AM] Dan Olson: like "beefcake" and "cheesecake" being general "sexy dudes" and "sexy ladies" respectively.
[30/12/2014, 7:51:00 AM] Charloppe: can i have the link to the debate, also know as chris kluwe rips juicebro a new asshole
[30/12/2014, 7:51:11 AM] Remy: Chris do a twitter search on how much Mike C has conversed directly with RooshV
[30/12/2014, 7:51:15 AM] Remy: They go WAAAAY back
[30/12/2014, 7:51:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Chris, still streaming here: http://www.twitch.tv/loate ?
[30/12/2014, 7:51:23 AM] Chris Kluwe: yup
[30/12/2014, 7:51:34 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, he goes back a long way with Vox Day too
[30/12/2014, 7:51:44 AM] Charloppe: ty very much
[30/12/2014, 7:51:55 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: He was talking about moving to the phillipines in October
[30/12/2014, 7:52:11 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: right when people first started screaming bloody murder about the CP stuff
[30/12/2014, 7:52:12 AM] Remy: Trying to figure out which one of them is Vader and which one is the Emperor Palpatine
[30/12/2014, 7:52:35 AM] Tesseract: between who, hotwheels and juicebro?
[30/12/2014, 7:52:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Chris, will the debate be viewable later? or only live?
[30/12/2014, 7:53:00 AM] Remy: I was thinking between Roosh, Vox Day and Mike C, but honestly any of these names
[30/12/2014, 7:53:05 AM] Remy: Take your pick they all fit
[30/12/2014, 7:53:30 AM] Tesseract: well mike is definitely more of a vader
[30/12/2014, 7:53:35 AM] Chris Kluwe: twitch should save it
[30/12/2014, 7:53:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): cool. I might have to bounce halfway through
[30/12/2014, 7:53:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :)
[30/12/2014, 7:53:56 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Darth Vader was eventually redeemed
[30/12/2014, 7:54:02 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: this metaphor is flawed
[30/12/2014, 7:54:10 AM] Charloppe: but i have the high ground
[30/12/2014, 7:56:18 AM] Remy: NFL players react to Sony's Cancellation of The Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NOGSUSDJs0
[30/12/2014, 7:56:28 AM] Remy: Obviously it was before they announced the release again
[30/12/2014, 7:56:31 AM] Remy: But XD
[30/12/2014, 7:59:29 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: On 30/12/2014, at 7:49 AM, Stephen at Wario wrote:
> So I keep hearing that Brennan lives in the Philippines and I can't stop interpreting that as an urban myth even though I've heard it said in here as actual fact. So... just tell me straight up
Does he srsly live there?
http://i.imgur.com/dxN8BVz.jpg
[30/12/2014, 8:00:00 AM] Tesseract: oh god this is terrifying
[30/12/2014, 8:00:10 AM] Remy: jesus
[30/12/2014, 8:00:19 AM] Chris Kluwe: why did i look at that
[30/12/2014, 8:00:32 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarah didn't put NSFMorals
[30/12/2014, 8:00:36 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: that's 8chan's admin if you didn't know chris D:
[30/12/2014, 8:00:41 AM] Chris Kluwe: no i know
[30/12/2014, 8:01:06 AM] Tesseract: I'm saving this for whenever someone tries to paint him as some disabled angel
[30/12/2014, 8:01:12 AM] Chris Kluwe: it was more a rhetorical "I knew what I was going to see but looked anyway and now I regret everything in life."
[30/12/2014, 8:01:12 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: sarkeesian gets criticized (and threatened) for shoes SHE NEVER BOUGHT. that use of money, however, is beyond reproach
[30/12/2014, 8:01:30 AM] Remy: I second what Chris said
[30/12/2014, 8:01:53 AM] Dan Olson: Wait, she didn't buy the shoes? 'cus I totally wouldn't begrudge her those shoes. Those were nice shoes.
[30/12/2014, 8:02:05 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: it was a fake tweet dan
[30/12/2014, 8:02:36 AM] Dan Olson: See, I didn't realize it was fake because I didn't care because the fake tweet was still a non-fucking-issue
[30/12/2014, 8:02:39 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: (she mentioned it in her XOXO talk, which was pretty badass)
[30/12/2014, 8:02:45 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: All I would have to say at this point would be "ghcghhghjhgjhjhgjgfyjcfygjg" but it's really hard to pound your head on a laptop keyboard.
[30/12/2014, 8:03:22 AM] Remy: no I can do it
[30/12/2014, 8:03:43 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I think Peter added that picture of Hotwheels to the Trello along with some related info such as stats on the Phillipines' CP and child sex trade issues. :/
[30/12/2014, 8:03:44 AM] Dan Olson: It's super easy, 'cus you can take the keyboard up to meet your head
[30/12/2014, 8:04:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Not a smoking gun, but doesn't help Hotwheels' image
[30/12/2014, 8:05:17 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: thought someone already did that yesterday?
[30/12/2014, 8:06:28 AM] Remy: I'm very disappointed with whoever was supposed to raise Brennan to not be a terrible person
[30/12/2014, 8:06:45 AM] Dan Olson: In my mind the shoes are a great example of GGs sense of militant orthopraxy. It's basically what Jason Pargin said about The Zoepost: even if this is 100% true it's still the most pointless bullshit anyone's forced us to read.
[30/12/2014, 8:06:48 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): STREAM IS LIVE! http://www.twitch.tv/loate
[30/12/2014, 8:06:49 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: final double check- anyone not want me to drag @knifehorse AKA cathodedebris dude in here?
[30/12/2014, 8:07:03 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Zoe and Alex gave the OK
[30/12/2014, 8:07:15 AM] Tesseract: uhh lemme do a background check on them but they're probably cool
[30/12/2014, 8:08:20 AM] Tesseract: what'd knifehorse do to make us want to invite them
[30/12/2014, 8:09:10 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: wrote the definitive blogpost on hashtag origins, a massive look into the background of Milo...
[30/12/2014, 8:09:16 AM] Remy: ^
[30/12/2014, 8:09:46 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: generally gather giant wads of handy info he doesn't want to publicly spread around
[30/12/2014, 8:09:52 AM] Alex Lifschitz: We're taking off on a flight here so we can't watch the debate. Will try to connect to skype when we get in the air if there's gonna be live commentary
[30/12/2014, 8:10:04 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/549718900925943808
[30/12/2014, 8:10:20 AM] Rob: Have a safe flight, alex
[30/12/2014, 8:10:27 AM] Rob: wtf sarah
[30/12/2014, 8:11:08 AM] Remy: Someone tell me when it's on so I know if my player is broken
[30/12/2014, 8:11:28 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's moving to Google Hangouts, according to Chris on the twitch chat
[30/12/2014, 8:11:31 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Someone record it just in case twitch fucks up recording
[30/12/2014, 8:13:20 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Secret Gamer Girl tries to work out this drag people in here business
[30/12/2014, 8:13:32 AM] Tesseract: alright bring in knifehorse
[30/12/2014, 8:14:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Tess was able to dig up their CC info and social security number and ran a background check. all good. (joking)
[30/12/2014, 8:14:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/ytl/sSPRzi9D_lV1tgemY9NJnwR6sbF0tqRvG4_u4FKn7O0=?authuser=0&hl=en_US
[30/12/2014, 8:14:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: changing to google
[30/12/2014, 8:14:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: having skype issues
[30/12/2014, 8:15:27 AM] Remy: Um... if I log in to that will people see my Google name?
[30/12/2014, 8:15:30 AM] Rob: That's the link to actually join the hangout
[30/12/2014, 8:15:32 AM] Rob: vs. watch it
[30/12/2014, 8:15:42 AM] Remy: omg Chris
[30/12/2014, 8:15:45 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[30/12/2014, 8:15:51 AM] Remy: party foul
[30/12/2014, 8:15:56 AM] Remy: I clicked that
[30/12/2014, 8:16:01 AM] Chris Kluwe: lol sorry
[30/12/2014, 8:16:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I saw my face show up and then I closed the tab
[30/12/2014, 8:16:04 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[30/12/2014, 8:16:08 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: should i have charloppe join and pretend she's mike cernovich
[30/12/2014, 8:16:10 AM] Chris Kluwe: that'smy bad :p
[30/12/2014, 8:16:21 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarah, yes
[30/12/2014, 8:16:23 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :P
[30/12/2014, 8:16:24 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: HURR SAVE YOUR CONDOMS TO BLACKMAIL WOMEN INTO SAYING YOU DIDN'T RAPE THEM SOMETHING SOMETHING
[30/12/2014, 8:16:35 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 8:16:37 AM] Chris Kluwe: make sure no one is in that
[30/12/2014, 8:16:39 AM] Chris Kluwe: sending the link to cerno
[30/12/2014, 8:16:43 AM] Rob: "HEY CHRIS I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT MY MAGIC SEMEN AND THE POWER OF RAAAAAW DOOOOOOOOOOOG"
[30/12/2014, 8:17:01 AM] Dan Olson: HOT SAUCE IN THE CONDOM BEFORE YOU THROW IT OUT!
[30/12/2014, 8:17:30 AM] Rob: "DAWG IF YOU USE CONDOMS MAKE SURE YOU CONTROL THEM BECAUSE HYOOMON FEEEEMALES POKE HOLES IN 'EM AND U DONT WANNA GET SPEEEEERM JACKED"
[30/12/2014, 8:17:45 AM] Chris Kluwe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CULPtbETOL8
[30/12/2014, 8:17:48 AM] Chris Kluwe: there we go
[30/12/2014, 8:17:48 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: seriously, how do I drag someone in here, interface wise?
[30/12/2014, 8:17:58 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: skype is a terrible mess these days
[30/12/2014, 8:18:00 AM] Remy: Well I guess today is the day I finally get off my ass and scrub myself from Spokeo and all of those websites
[30/12/2014, 8:18:07 AM] Dan Olson: BUT NOT BEFORE YOU USE IT! VERY IMPORTANT TO PUT THE HOT SAUCE IN AFTER USE, BUT BEFORE THROWING IT OUT!
[30/12/2014, 8:18:12 AM] Remy: b/c my e-mail may have been dropped when I logged into that room lol
[30/12/2014, 8:18:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Secret, do you see at plus in a circle at the top-right?
[30/12/2014, 8:18:41 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Secret Gamer Girl added live:riotarms to this conversation
[30/12/2014, 8:18:44 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: aha
[30/12/2014, 8:19:01 AM] Rob: I'll probably have to watch it when I get back to DC tomorrow, Chris, but good luck, man. Kick his ass.
[30/12/2014, 8:19:40 AM] Charloppe: ooooh look at dat the alpha
[30/12/2014, 8:19:50 AM] Athena Hollow: hahhahahaha
[30/12/2014, 8:20:01 AM] Charloppe: hes looking at me
[30/12/2014, 8:20:03 AM] Charloppe: im scared
[30/12/2014, 8:20:35 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Yo--guess who is getting garbage for being Sikh, again?
[30/12/2014, 8:20:48 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: So tada, have a that-guy-who-wrote-that-post-with-the-twitter-history-links in theory
[30/12/2014, 8:20:48 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Guess who is getting shit for his turban?
[30/12/2014, 8:20:50 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Me!
[30/12/2014, 8:21:51 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: People should probably point out who various confusingly named people are and explain the premise of this here group better than I did.
[30/12/2014, 8:21:56 AM] Tesseract: you should make them super mad by wearing a bigger turban on top of your turban
[30/12/2014, 8:22:08 AM] Athena Hollow: omg chris started out w/ "Lets see how you got involved"
[30/12/2014, 8:22:12 AM] Athena Hollow: please tell me someone is recording this
[30/12/2014, 8:22:22 AM] Remy: Okay I clicked the YT link.
[30/12/2014, 8:22:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yes.
[30/12/2014, 8:22:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): he lied, too
[30/12/2014, 8:22:28 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... while @knifehorse puzzles out properly opening this chat tab in the hideous UI that is Skype
[30/12/2014, 8:22:31 AM] Remy: Is this srsly the bro we're dealing with?
[30/12/2014, 8:22:33 AM] Veerender Jubbal: sniggers
[30/12/2014, 8:22:49 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahahha yeah.
[30/12/2014, 8:23:12 AM] live:riotarms: Hey hey
[30/12/2014, 8:23:20 AM] SF: I think if you add hot sauce it's no longer a raw dog.
[30/12/2014, 8:23:21 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): haha. Chris is doing great so far
[30/12/2014, 8:23:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): XD
[30/12/2014, 8:23:27 AM] Remy: oh god I was not prepared for the unfiltered handsomeness of Chris
[30/12/2014, 8:23:30 AM] Athena Hollow: I <3 you Kluwe.
[30/12/2014, 8:23:36 AM] live:riotarms: This is knifehorse and I hate Skype
[30/12/2014, 8:23:42 AM] Remy: <3
[30/12/2014, 8:23:42 AM] Athena Hollow: OMFG really guy? WWI
[30/12/2014, 8:23:45 AM] SF: Is this debate worth watching live or will it make me sad?
[30/12/2014, 8:23:45 AM] live:riotarms: What's going down
[30/12/2014, 8:23:48 AM] Charloppe: omg
[30/12/2014, 8:23:48 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AHAH
[30/12/2014, 8:23:56 AM] Charloppe: im dieing
[30/12/2014, 8:23:56 AM] Athena Hollow: It's hilarious as shit, SF
[30/12/2014, 8:23:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): watch the stream here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CULPtbETOL8
[30/12/2014, 8:23:57 AM] Athena Hollow: like omg
[30/12/2014, 8:23:59 AM] Charloppe: my sides
[30/12/2014, 8:24:20 AM] SF: Watching now.
[30/12/2014, 8:24:25 AM] Athena Hollow: Srsly, Chris, you are so fuckin smooth yo.
[30/12/2014, 8:24:42 AM] Remy: I'm so mad at Chris right now. For four years in the army I tried to make wearing comm headgear look sexy and failed
[30/12/2014, 8:24:50 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: generally- bunch of people generally deemed mutually trustworthy are hanging out in here as a way to get messages on major GG crap out in a fairly fast fashion without broadcasting everything to hordes of sealions
[30/12/2014, 8:24:51 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 8:24:52 AM] Dan Olson: A'ight, off to a birthday party, looking forward to the replay later tonight
[30/12/2014, 8:25:08 AM] Athena Hollow: Night dan!
[30/12/2014, 8:25:12 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: .... and to some degree being weird goofy internet people to blow off steam
[30/12/2014, 8:25:24 AM] live:riotarms: Streaming this to my tv because why not
[30/12/2014, 8:25:27 AM] Tesseract: it's like 95% that second thing
[30/12/2014, 8:25:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Chris is killing it. He's so much better at this than I expected
[30/12/2014, 8:25:33 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: there's also that other group chat with more serious tone and a door check for 2 factor authentification
[30/12/2014, 8:25:43 AM] SF: "That I know are 3rd party trolls" right he never blames SJWs.
[30/12/2014, 8:25:50 AM] Athena Hollow: nope not all. nope.
[30/12/2014, 8:25:55 AM] Remy: I'm actually sad that I now have seen Mike C talking b/c... I mean in my head I had him built up as this huge testosterone-driven gym rat
[30/12/2014, 8:25:59 AM] Athena Hollow: sets mike's webcam on fire
[30/12/2014, 8:26:03 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... and at this immediate time, everyone's watching Chris Kluwe talk to Juicy live for some reason
[30/12/2014, 8:26:10 AM] Rob: Oh, hey, Knifehorse!
<----UnseenPerfidy
[30/12/2014, 8:26:21 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... also I'm getting totally distracted by this being RPG night
[30/12/2014, 8:26:34 AM] Tesseract: I'm SJWIlluminati
[30/12/2014, 8:27:18 AM] SF: Chris is smooth and also kind of cute (no hetero)
[30/12/2014, 8:27:20 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 8:28:16 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I need help for someone to jump in because I do not know what  is happening.
[30/12/2014, 8:28:31 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Like, what is this? https://twitter.com/TFYCapitalists/status/549723365347717120
[30/12/2014, 8:29:21 AM] Charloppe: omg the ownage
[30/12/2014, 8:29:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ahaha, Chris is destroying Mike
[30/12/2014, 8:29:28 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Incidentally, the main reason I wanted to drag @knifehorse in here is that, iirc, he was kinda hoping to set something up like the whole Trello thing someone else needs to explain
[30/12/2014, 8:30:08 AM] Remy: lol
[30/12/2014, 8:30:08 AM] SF: Genetic elite
[30/12/2014, 8:30:11 AM] Remy: XD
[30/12/2014, 8:30:12 AM] live:riotarms: Ah cool, I had two dicks in my mentions bigging up gjoni and one was bro pill so I could use some steam blow off
[30/12/2014, 8:30:14 AM] Remy: I'm crying
[30/12/2014, 8:30:17 AM] Remy: No offense Chris
[30/12/2014, 8:30:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Chris for President
[30/12/2014, 8:30:26 AM] Remy: I love your genes 'n' all, obviously, I called ya handsome
[30/12/2014, 8:30:27 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: there's that too
[30/12/2014, 8:30:31 AM] live:riotarms: THAT'S juicebro?
[30/12/2014, 8:30:31 AM] Athena Hollow: 'the genetic elite'
[30/12/2014, 8:30:34 AM] Remy: But how do I get into the Genetic Elite
[30/12/2014, 8:30:41 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh.
[30/12/2014, 8:30:51 AM] Athena Hollow: and yes, that's juicebro LOL
[30/12/2014, 8:31:01 AM] Remy: How did Chris suppress the urge to say "Please don't describe me as Genetic Elite"
[30/12/2014, 8:31:07 AM] Charloppe: omg yes'
[30/12/2014, 8:31:10 AM] Charloppe: the tears
[30/12/2014, 8:31:19 AM] Charloppe: they are soooo tasty
[30/12/2014, 8:31:35 AM] Athena Hollow: See, if he gave a shit about the law, he'd know that a goddamn restraining order is NOT a gag order. Ugh. Fuck Mike C.
[30/12/2014, 8:31:53 AM] Athena Hollow: OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
[30/12/2014, 8:31:57 AM] Athena Hollow: YESSSSSSSSSSSS CHRISSSSSSSSSSSS
[30/12/2014, 8:32:05 AM] SF: Ahahahaha
[30/12/2014, 8:32:16 AM] Athena Hollow: except they AREN'T our rules you fucking numpty. OMG
[30/12/2014, 8:32:17 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 8:32:47 AM] Athena Hollow: omfg he's totally "it's not technically illegal"
[30/12/2014, 8:33:19 AM] live:riotarms: I once described juicebro as "two sacks of big dogs t-shirts willing themselves into the shape of John Matrix" and I stand by that
[30/12/2014, 8:33:23 AM] SF: pfffft
[30/12/2014, 8:33:25 AM] Charloppe: so im now a mega chris kluwe fan
[30/12/2014, 8:33:36 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 8:33:46 AM] Remy: He won't buckle
[30/12/2014, 8:34:17 AM] live:riotarms: Juicebro looks like a joke GTA character
[30/12/2014, 8:34:23 AM] SF: Brucey
[30/12/2014, 8:34:37 AM] Remy: What is his argument exactly?
[30/12/2014, 8:34:42 AM] Remy: "WELL WHADDAYAGONNADO"
[30/12/2014, 8:34:52 AM] Charloppe: there is one?
[30/12/2014, 8:34:56 AM] Remy: I guess Mike C's argument in favor of child porn is essentially  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[30/12/2014, 8:35:31 AM] Athena Hollow: "You can't prevent everything on your website!"
Actually, that's your fucking job as a site owner. If you can't, you don't run a site.
[30/12/2014, 8:35:38 AM] Chris Kluwe: link to brennan's comment on needing cp?
[30/12/2014, 8:36:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): to have edge over 4chan? That was in reference to drawn CP, though. Don't know if it is as damning
[30/12/2014, 8:36:18 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: mention the boards have been there for months without being deleted imo
[30/12/2014, 8:36:27 AM] Remy: lol
[30/12/2014, 8:36:31 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: that one is referring to drawn, yeeah
[30/12/2014, 8:36:36 AM] Remy: Apparently us "SJWs" are responsible for 8chan
[30/12/2014, 8:36:44 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/HW_BEAT_THAT/status/547013158116663296
[30/12/2014, 8:36:52 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: dan did report it
[30/12/2014, 8:36:52 AM] Athena Hollow: OMFG
[30/12/2014, 8:37:01 AM] Charloppe: yeeeeeeeeees
[30/12/2014, 8:37:10 AM] Athena Hollow: */sets mike's cam on fire again/
[30/12/2014, 8:37:11 AM] SF: Yeah this has been reported to authorities and ISPs alike.
[30/12/2014, 8:37:21 AM] SF: And lots of us were complaining about 8chan operating in plain sight before GG.
[30/12/2014, 8:37:25 AM] live:riotarms: Oh god go chris
[30/12/2014, 8:37:33 AM] Charloppe: omfg i cant stop laughin g
[30/12/2014, 8:37:57 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHHAHAH "The gamergate boards, or the /pol boards, or whatever"
[30/12/2014, 8:37:58 AM] Athena Hollow: XD
[30/12/2014, 8:38:27 AM] live:riotarms: Juicebro sounds like a tiny rick morris hiding inside a muscle suit
[30/12/2014, 8:38:32 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 8:38:54 AM] Athena Hollow: Juicebro is losin his shit here XD
[30/12/2014, 8:39:09 AM] Athena Hollow: I <3 you Chris. Next time you're in Indiana, I'm buying you & your wife a drink LOL
[30/12/2014, 8:39:25 AM] SF: Cernovich is accusing Dan of faking the article now.
[30/12/2014, 8:39:25 AM] Charloppe: omg
[30/12/2014, 8:39:27 AM] Charloppe: omg
[30/12/2014, 8:39:29 AM] SF: Like doctoring screengrabs.
[30/12/2014, 8:39:31 AM] live:riotarms: Is chris in here
[30/12/2014, 8:39:36 AM] Charloppe: yes
[30/12/2014, 8:39:45 AM] Athena Hollow: AND HERE WE GO
[30/12/2014, 8:39:47 AM] Athena Hollow: the cbs article
[30/12/2014, 8:39:50 AM] Remy: like people can't just click click clikc oh look, CP
[30/12/2014, 8:39:55 AM] Athena Hollow: yup
[30/12/2014, 8:40:38 AM] live:riotarms: Has mike talked about charging up his balls with magic yet
[30/12/2014, 8:40:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): CHRIS, where's the bottle!? Waiting until the end?
[30/12/2014, 8:41:11 AM] SF: How do we know if this stream is even real!?
[30/12/2014, 8:41:15 AM] SF: What is reality!?!
[30/12/2014, 8:41:21 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 8:41:31 AM] live:riotarms: Ooooooooh
[30/12/2014, 8:41:34 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Wow
[30/12/2014, 8:41:38 AM] Athena Hollow: "Those facts haven't been proven"
Except, they have, you moron. lol
[30/12/2014, 8:41:44 AM] Tesseract: it's a ploy to make juicebro look bad by his evil twin, dark juicebro
[30/12/2014, 8:42:22 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 8:42:28 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: "Well, if you don't believe there's anything on there, feel free to poke around?"
[30/12/2014, 8:43:03 AM] live:riotarms: Has he mentioned hotwheels fled the country to a western sex tourism target yet
[30/12/2014, 8:43:05 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL Trying to say Dan fabricated the story XD
[30/12/2014, 8:43:07 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: the boards are STILL THERE. boards DEDICATED to posting these images
[30/12/2014, 8:43:08 AM] Athena Hollow: nope.
[30/12/2014, 8:43:09 AM] SF: If there's one think Hotwheels won't tolerate it's drama
[30/12/2014, 8:43:13 AM] SF: no drama allowed on 8chan
[30/12/2014, 8:43:29 AM] SF: "I have no idea how 8chan works I just know for sure you're wrong about the moderators"
[30/12/2014, 8:43:40 AM] Tesseract: ah yes the nonexistant mods
[30/12/2014, 8:44:03 AM] live:riotarms: I love chris so much right now
[30/12/2014, 8:44:25 AM] SF: It's not child porn but Dan is guilty of downloading it even though it doesn't exist
[30/12/2014, 8:44:36 AM] Athena Hollow: OH! And Dan's article didn't even bring up gamergate
[30/12/2014, 8:44:39 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-80.html#docCont
[30/12/2014, 8:44:40 AM] live:riotarms: Hahaha the power cord gambit
[30/12/2014, 8:44:41 AM] Tesseract: that's their actual logic
[30/12/2014, 8:44:44 AM] Charloppe: I want that cup
[30/12/2014, 8:44:46 AM] Charloppe: now
[30/12/2014, 8:44:54 AM] SF: Yeah Dan's article not mentioning GG is notable.
[30/12/2014, 8:44:56 AM] Athena Hollow: GG took it upon themselves to defend it.
[30/12/2014, 8:45:13 AM] Athena Hollow: It was explicitly about 8chan. So yeah, fuck these douchebros.
[30/12/2014, 8:45:45 AM] live:riotarms: "I don't know what that shit even means dude"
[30/12/2014, 8:45:48 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 8:45:49 AM] Remy: Wow I'm going through these frequently used doxing sites and I don't wanna overinflated myself but I'm kinda impressed with my low online footprint
[30/12/2014, 8:45:56 AM] live:riotarms: Ooooooooh
[30/12/2014, 8:46:01 AM] Remy: Pipl has never even heard of me
[30/12/2014, 8:46:25 AM] Athena Hollow: Dan Olsen is an investigative reporter.
[30/12/2014, 8:46:59 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL fucking hell, Mike is a dumbass.
[30/12/2014, 8:47:02 AM] Athena Hollow: Worst. Lawyer. Ever.
[30/12/2014, 8:47:10 AM] SF: Does Cernovich even know Dan is in Alberta?
[30/12/2014, 8:47:14 AM] Athena Hollow: He... um... He lives in Canada dude.
[30/12/2014, 8:47:28 AM] Athena Hollow: They have great investigative reporter laws.
[30/12/2014, 8:47:59 AM] SF: Is...Cernovich starting to cry?
[30/12/2014, 8:48:08 AM] SF: I think he's literally crying a bit.
[30/12/2014, 8:48:25 AM] live:riotarms: Hahahahaaaaah
[30/12/2014, 8:49:04 AM] Charloppe: the tears
[30/12/2014, 8:49:09 AM] Athena Hollow: SCHRODINGER'S CHILD PORN
[30/12/2014, 8:49:10 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): OMG
[30/12/2014, 8:49:30 AM] Rob: Damn, gotta stop watching
[30/12/2014, 8:49:34 AM] Rob: will finish it tomorrow
[30/12/2014, 8:49:49 AM] Charloppe: target aquired
[30/12/2014, 8:49:59 AM] SF: Not to mention the Patreon supporting the blackhat boards is worth caring about even without the CP.
[30/12/2014, 8:50:12 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHAH "Online lynchmobs, like ... Gamergate?"
[30/12/2014, 8:50:46 AM] SF: Yeah why won't Zoe just stop talking about who's fucking who
[30/12/2014, 8:50:49 AM] Athena Hollow: "Can we talk about someone other than Zoe Quinn"
[30/12/2014, 8:50:52 AM] live:riotarms: Of course this is what juicebro would sound like
[30/12/2014, 8:50:54 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/FoldableHuman/status/522233664290447360
[30/12/2014, 8:50:59 AM] Athena Hollow: btw that's from October
[30/12/2014, 8:51:53 AM] SF: Rogue was in those logs, Grimachu was
[30/12/2014, 8:51:54 AM] Athena Hollow: And some of those people are INVOLVED IN GAMERGATE.
[30/12/2014, 8:51:56 AM] Athena Hollow: Yup.
[30/12/2014, 8:52:00 AM] Athena Hollow: Cameralady
[30/12/2014, 8:52:08 AM] Athena Hollow: OMG YESSSSSSSSS
[30/12/2014, 8:52:14 AM] live:riotarms: Grim is light in the logs, he lurked though
[30/12/2014, 8:52:20 AM] live:riotarms: 8 hits total
[30/12/2014, 8:52:36 AM] live:riotarms: Is his wife on twitter as megachu btw
[30/12/2014, 8:52:43 AM] Athena Hollow: "it's not a cult of personality" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
[30/12/2014, 8:52:45 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
[30/12/2014, 8:52:48 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[30/12/2014, 8:53:08 AM] Charloppe: i dont give a fuck
[30/12/2014, 8:53:10 AM] Athena Hollow: "Slave" to the drama... Look at me attack random women.
[30/12/2014, 8:53:14 AM] Charloppe: wait
[30/12/2014, 8:53:16 AM] Charloppe: no i do
[30/12/2014, 8:54:15 AM] Remy: I just can't take this dude seriously anymore
[30/12/2014, 8:54:28 AM] SF: The chat is so salty right now hahaha
[30/12/2014, 8:54:36 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Has he brought the detective up yet?
[30/12/2014, 8:54:54 AM] SF: "It's not about Zoe Quinn, please ignore the private investigator I hired."
[30/12/2014, 8:54:56 AM] Athena Hollow: lol god he's dumb. 

It requires standing up against and telling those people specifically "You don't represent us" as opposed to the VICTIMS "They don't represent us." & ignore the perpetrators.
[30/12/2014, 8:55:02 AM] SF: Can't spell private investigator without gator.
[30/12/2014, 8:55:11 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/525234003708628992 recall this
[30/12/2014, 8:55:41 AM] Remy: TRUST BUT VERIFAH
[30/12/2014, 8:55:46 AM] Remy: FEELS BEFAH REALS
[30/12/2014, 8:55:49 AM] SF: >stormtroopavk81
TURN GAMERGATE INTO POLICE STATE
[30/12/2014, 8:55:56 AM] Charloppe: lolololol
[30/12/2014, 8:55:58 AM] SF: Accountability for harassment is literally 1984.
[30/12/2014, 8:56:07 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 8:56:09 AM] Charloppe: omg really
[30/12/2014, 8:56:14 AM] SF: Dogpiling such an SJW term.
[30/12/2014, 8:56:22 AM] live:riotarms: This keeps freezing on ps4
[30/12/2014, 8:56:27 AM] Athena Hollow: "what is dogpiling!?"
[30/12/2014, 8:56:40 AM] Remy: omg knife horse is on ps4 and not on my friends list
[30/12/2014, 8:56:50 AM] live:riotarms: Btw, is there some kind of block list dudes like Milo are using?
[30/12/2014, 8:56:51 AM] Athena Hollow: "YOU SHOULD HAVE TO KEEP YOUR DOOR LOCKED TO AVOID HARASSMENT!"
[30/12/2014, 8:56:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Athena, the real question: what is raw dogging?"
[30/12/2014, 8:56:59 AM] Remy: WTF is wrong with me
[30/12/2014, 8:57:07 AM] Athena Hollow: i think so, James. I'm blocked from all the 'biggies'
[30/12/2014, 8:57:09 AM] Remy: Are you being serious izzy?
[30/12/2014, 8:57:17 AM] Remy: I have trouble seeing sarcasm sometimes
[30/12/2014, 8:57:21 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I am joking, Stephen :P
[30/12/2014, 8:57:27 AM] Remy: ok thank you ^_^
[30/12/2014, 8:58:05 AM] Charloppe: somebody get chris a medal
[30/12/2014, 8:58:08 AM] Charloppe: now
[30/12/2014, 8:58:10 AM] SF: Yes.
[30/12/2014, 8:58:15 AM] SF: The green and purple heart.
[30/12/2014, 8:58:18 AM] Remy: XD
[30/12/2014, 8:58:20 AM] Athena Hollow: "Some"
[30/12/2014, 8:58:23 AM] Athena Hollow: "SOME"
[30/12/2014, 8:58:37 AM] Remy: oh dear he knows some curse words
[30/12/2014, 8:58:38 AM] Athena Hollow: "I don't care about her... HERE'S ME ATTACKING HER FOR TWO WEEKS"
[30/12/2014, 8:58:40 AM] Charloppe: oh my mike is getting mad
[30/12/2014, 8:58:44 AM] Remy: those fucking fuckers
[30/12/2014, 8:58:50 AM] Remy: with all their fucking
[30/12/2014, 8:58:55 AM] Charloppe: fuck
[30/12/2014, 8:59:02 AM] Remy: It's pretty fucked  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[30/12/2014, 8:59:24 AM] Athena Hollow: "if they just ignore me, then I won't talk about them" BULL. SHIT.
[30/12/2014, 8:59:26 AM] Charloppe: we need a i dont get a fuck tally
[30/12/2014, 8:59:44 AM] Remy: Hey by his definition of SWATTING
[30/12/2014, 8:59:44 AM] live:riotarms: Who would have thought a guy who regards semen as an avataristic totem of power would suck at this?
[30/12/2014, 8:59:45 AM] SF: I was expecting some skirting legality arguments from Cernovich but he's just arguing from emotion constantly.
[30/12/2014, 8:59:51 AM] Remy: He technically SWATTED David
[30/12/2014, 8:59:52 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHAHA THE SWATTING
[30/12/2014, 9:00:27 AM] SF: DIDN'T TYPE IT PROPERLY
[30/12/2014, 9:00:29 AM] live:riotarms: Wolf: he's probably not that aware of law shit
[30/12/2014, 9:00:46 AM] Remy: lol look at all the haters commenting
[30/12/2014, 9:01:03 AM] SF: https://twitter.com/Cernowatch/status/546133357189693440 "swatting attempt"
[30/12/2014, 9:01:27 AM] Athena Hollow: They called CrimeStoppers you moron.
[30/12/2014, 9:02:06 AM] SF: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/536351467397853184 "It's an interesting world. If you don't post pic, you're an "anonymous coward." If you do, SJWs sent SWAT teams at you."
[30/12/2014, 9:02:18 AM] live:riotarms: God those comments
[30/12/2014, 9:02:33 AM] live:riotarms: Full on sockpuppets theatre
[30/12/2014, 9:02:44 AM] SF: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/548608870646444032 "The stories about efforts to swat me have gotten well over 100,000 unique visits. The truth about SJWs is getting out there."
[30/12/2014, 9:03:05 AM] Tesseract: my storify about him has gotten almost 20,000 visits
[30/12/2014, 9:03:12 AM] Tesseract: the truth about super serum is getting out there as well
[30/12/2014, 9:03:18 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 9:04:15 AM] live:riotarms: Mike is fucking pathetic
[30/12/2014, 9:04:22 AM] Charloppe: this guy is a lawyer
[30/12/2014, 9:04:30 AM] SF: I'VE BEEN NICE TO DEEZ KIDS
[30/12/2014, 9:04:54 AM] live:riotarms: Mike has never said dumb shit on the Internet :3
[30/12/2014, 9:05:14 AM] SF: Cernovich has posted Zoe's birth name repeatedly hasn't he?
[30/12/2014, 9:05:29 AM] Tesseract: yep
[30/12/2014, 9:05:38 AM] SF: And he's given court documents to individuals known to be personally responsible for harassment in GG.
[30/12/2014, 9:05:38 AM] live:riotarms: Chris oughta read the super sperm serum tweets
[30/12/2014, 9:05:45 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/546083138942681088
[30/12/2014, 9:05:57 AM] SF: He's taking Cernovich apart on his arguments without resorting to the stupid stuff.
[30/12/2014, 9:06:14 AM] live:riotarms: Ha, yeah, you're right
[30/12/2014, 9:06:41 AM] live:riotarms: I tried arguing the facts with bro team today and it was the most depressing awful experience
[30/12/2014, 9:06:45 AM] SF: Does Cernovich have a definition of doxing? I bet Tesseract's link violates it.
[30/12/2014, 9:07:10 AM] live:riotarms: Then a Gjoni sympathiser jumped in and tried to get me to go to DMs
[30/12/2014, 9:07:14 AM] SF: Hey Zoe say there was a misunderstanding and he'll call off the PI forever.
[30/12/2014, 9:07:21 AM] Athena Hollow: "I thought we would have a nice conversation?! WHY YOU HATE ME CHRIS?! WHY SENPAI HATE ME?!"
[30/12/2014, 9:07:34 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Someone sure likes his hypothetical statements
[30/12/2014, 9:07:49 AM] Charloppe: the chat
[30/12/2014, 9:07:56 AM] Charloppe: has so many gg tears
[30/12/2014, 9:08:10 AM] SF: He's so angry hahaha
[30/12/2014, 9:08:43 AM] live:riotarms: The chat is full on Stepford Waifus
[30/12/2014, 9:08:51 AM] Remy: lol that YT comment channel right now
[30/12/2014, 9:08:52 AM] Athena Hollow: I do however hate our fucking libel/slander/defamation laws
[30/12/2014, 9:08:57 AM] Remy: Nothing but HE IS A LAWYER WHY YOU ARGUE WITH HIM
[30/12/2014, 9:09:02 AM] live:riotarms: "Mike in Mike-world"
[30/12/2014, 9:09:03 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 9:09:05 AM] Remy: Only GamerGate could be like "We love lawyeres"
[30/12/2014, 9:09:16 AM] Remy: The one people it will always be okay to make jokes about
[30/12/2014, 9:09:23 AM] SF: MAN TO MAN. COOL. COOL.
[30/12/2014, 9:09:30 AM] SF: COOL MANLY MEN
[30/12/2014, 9:09:54 AM] Athena Hollow: No, it's not that fucking simple. Saying you're sorry means nothing if you keep doing it over & over.
[30/12/2014, 9:09:56 AM] Remy: StandAloneGamer that's why SJW's are bad, not to mention their puritanical fanaticism
[30/12/2014, 9:09:58 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/549733876352839680 rofl
[30/12/2014, 9:10:15 AM] live:riotarms: Mike has this cargo cult approach to percieved masculinity that's really thrown into contrast here
[30/12/2014, 9:10:50 AM] SF: So many downvotes.
[30/12/2014, 9:11:15 AM] SF: White knighting is sexual?
[30/12/2014, 9:11:37 AM] Athena Hollow: And they use it literally every time a guy stands up against their bullshit.
[30/12/2014, 9:11:40 AM] live:riotarms: He sees men with muscles, he gets muscles, he hears about sex, he talks about how he shoots midichloridians that give him psycho power
[30/12/2014, 9:12:03 AM] live:riotarms: He's trying to be an archetype he doesn't understand
[30/12/2014, 9:12:06 AM] Tesseract: to be fair basically every approach to masculinity is cargo-cultish
[30/12/2014, 9:12:11 AM] Athena Hollow: So, he thinks that men can't just be friends w/ women
[30/12/2014, 9:12:19 AM] Tesseract: he's admitted as much yeah
[30/12/2014, 9:12:22 AM] Tesseract: lemme find the tweet of that
[30/12/2014, 9:12:37 AM] live:riotarms: Oooooooooooooooh
[30/12/2014, 9:12:41 AM] SF: Oh his name isn't pronounced like mine after all, good.
[30/12/2014, 9:13:46 AM] SF: Man it sure sucks when people get swarmed on social media as a result of this event.
[30/12/2014, 9:13:48 AM] Athena Hollow: my TOPSY!
[30/12/2014, 9:13:50 AM] Athena Hollow: TOPSY!
[30/12/2014, 9:13:57 AM] Athena Hollow: because, of course, GG wouldn't have said shit to him.
[30/12/2014, 9:14:11 AM] Athena Hollow: OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[30/12/2014, 9:14:23 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/190191364321980416
[30/12/2014, 9:14:35 AM] Athena Hollow: jeez. what a tool.
[30/12/2014, 9:15:02 AM] Athena Hollow: It was a fucking restraining order you asshole.
[30/12/2014, 9:15:11 AM] Athena Hollow: He was following her around ONLINE
[30/12/2014, 9:15:40 AM] Athena Hollow: bullllllshiiiiiittttttttt
[30/12/2014, 9:15:55 AM] Quinnae: How goes the Great Debate? I'm making stir-fry with my sweetie. :)
[30/12/2014, 9:16:08 AM] Remy: It's pretty great
[30/12/2014, 9:16:08 AM] Athena Hollow: Mike is getting emotional.
[30/12/2014, 9:16:11 AM] SF: Archive link to Eron's blog where he admitted to mob forming, if it helps: https://archive.today/OVXNf
[30/12/2014, 9:16:14 AM] Remy: You should check in at least once
[30/12/2014, 9:16:19 AM] SF: Also where he says journalism was a deliberate diversion.
[30/12/2014, 9:16:29 AM] Remy: Just so you can see the boogey man Mike C reduced to the strange pile of pathetic that he is
[30/12/2014, 9:16:33 AM] Athena Hollow: You might even say he's.... HYSTERICAL.
[30/12/2014, 9:16:55 AM] live:riotarms: Oh god this is on point
[30/12/2014, 9:17:12 AM] live:riotarms: Oh shit oh shit
[30/12/2014, 9:17:18 AM] live:riotarms: Chobit
[30/12/2014, 9:17:19 AM] Athena Hollow: god, he didn't do two fucking seconds of research.
[30/12/2014, 9:17:25 AM] Charloppe: devi eliver
[30/12/2014, 9:17:27 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: DEVI ELOBER
[30/12/2014, 9:17:29 AM] Charloppe: lost it
[30/12/2014, 9:17:37 AM] Athena Hollow: DAMMIT. I'm like 20 seconds behind!
[30/12/2014, 9:17:52 AM] live:riotarms: Oh he just tried to send people after devi's new shit
[30/12/2014, 9:18:10 AM] live:riotarms: When devi is not doing so great
[30/12/2014, 9:18:12 AM] live:riotarms: :(
[30/12/2014, 9:18:51 AM] SF: I'm just going to look into every aspect of Zoe's life but not the people I'm allied with.
[30/12/2014, 9:19:13 AM] SF: Hey I wanted to be fucking left alone when this started.
[30/12/2014, 9:19:33 AM] Athena Hollow: "a bunch of generally nice people" 

That deliberately attack other people.
[30/12/2014, 9:19:36 AM] Athena Hollow: Totes nice though.
[30/12/2014, 9:19:39 AM] SF: eloper hahaha
[30/12/2014, 9:19:55 AM] SF: Grace has apologized publicly and repeatedly. We DID shun her before that.
[30/12/2014, 9:20:01 AM] Athena Hollow: YUP
[30/12/2014, 9:20:08 AM] live:riotarms: I think the sad shit is this won't reach a single gamergater
[30/12/2014, 9:20:17 AM] Athena Hollow: nope
[30/12/2014, 9:20:20 AM] SF: This stream isn't for them anyway.
[30/12/2014, 9:20:27 AM] SF: It's for the teens and the industry vets.
[30/12/2014, 9:20:34 AM] SF: People who aren't already educated on this.
[30/12/2014, 9:20:40 AM] live:riotarms: Ah, cool
[30/12/2014, 9:20:43 AM] SF: Also to make Mike say stupid shit.
[30/12/2014, 9:20:55 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahah
[30/12/2014, 9:21:00 AM] live:riotarms: It's succeeding!
[30/12/2014, 9:21:09 AM] Remy: "Zoe quinn is free to go home. I just happen to have openly threatened hiring private detectives to follow them"
[30/12/2014, 9:21:20 AM] SF: Wait, so he says him being at his apartment means he's in no danger? Isn't that EXACTLY the info he claimed put him in danger?
[30/12/2014, 9:21:22 AM] Athena Hollow: He posted his fucking work address as his goddamn business address.
[30/12/2014, 9:21:35 AM] Athena Hollow: "FALSE FLAG! FALSE FLAG!"
[30/12/2014, 9:21:45 AM] SF: Everyone knows you can't be threatened until you have a game out or something.
[30/12/2014, 9:21:46 AM] live:riotarms: Kluwe is so relaxed, I envy him
[30/12/2014, 9:22:05 AM] live:riotarms: Oh man he's mouthing it out
[30/12/2014, 9:22:18 AM] SF: That really pisses me off he's like "whatever" about people knowing his address when he's claiming that was what almost got him swatted.
[30/12/2014, 9:22:56 AM] SF: Oh we're supposed to know every detail about HIS life.
[30/12/2014, 9:23:04 AM] SF: Based Lawyer
[30/12/2014, 9:23:09 AM] Charloppe: cmon bro stahp bing mean
[30/12/2014, 9:23:23 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 9:23:43 AM] Athena Hollow: your legal knowledge sucks, bro.
[30/12/2014, 9:23:58 AM] SF: That's literally what they said.
[30/12/2014, 9:23:59 AM] live:riotarms: Someone put a squirrel in Zoe's mailbox
[30/12/2014, 9:24:02 AM] Athena Hollow: except people went to randi's fucking work.
[30/12/2014, 9:24:07 AM] Athena Hollow: and mailed shit to people's house.
[30/12/2014, 9:24:08 AM] Remy: Hey
[30/12/2014, 9:24:14 AM] Remy: I think they Doxed Chris on the chat
[30/12/2014, 9:24:17 AM] live:riotarms: A dead fucking squirrel
[30/12/2014, 9:24:21 AM] Charloppe: they did
[30/12/2014, 9:24:24 AM] Athena Hollow: of course they did.
[30/12/2014, 9:24:28 AM] live:riotarms: Oh man wire canon arguement
[30/12/2014, 9:24:38 AM] Athena Hollow: because he has only pointed it out 30 billion times that they haven't.
[30/12/2014, 9:24:42 AM] live:riotarms: This guy is TOTALLY a lawyer
[30/12/2014, 9:24:52 AM] SF: The issue of the knife alone wouldn't change the showing up to work part.
[30/12/2014, 9:25:03 AM] SF: https://archive.today/OVXNf <- Yes very "leave her alone"
[30/12/2014, 9:25:26 AM] live:riotarms: Yer awner, if I refer yous to season 4 episode two of The Wire
[30/12/2014, 9:25:28 AM] SF: Anyone have the cite for where he talked about sexying up the content to try and make it easier to mob around?
[30/12/2014, 9:25:48 AM] live:riotarms: Yeah I got it
[30/12/2014, 9:26:12 AM] SF: Yeah why won't we leave Cernovich alone, like how he namesearches himself to pick fights with nobodies like me even.
[30/12/2014, 9:26:23 AM] live:riotarms: https://idledillettante.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/badadvice.png?w=880&h=1256
[30/12/2014, 9:26:24 AM] Charloppe: king of skulls!
[30/12/2014, 9:26:41 AM] live:riotarms: http://idledillettante.com/2014/12/06/eron-gjoni-hateful-boyfriend/
[30/12/2014, 9:26:44 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Is the debate still going? We just landed
[30/12/2014, 9:26:53 AM] Athena Hollow: yep
[30/12/2014, 9:26:55 AM] SF: It is.
[30/12/2014, 9:26:55 AM] Charloppe: yup
[30/12/2014, 9:26:58 AM] Athena Hollow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CULPtbETOL8
[30/12/2014, 9:26:58 AM] live:riotarms: All the screen caps eron posted
[30/12/2014, 9:27:06 AM] Charloppe: chris is owning mike
[30/12/2014, 9:27:14 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Hahaha
[30/12/2014, 9:27:16 AM] Remy: Yes Alex the debate is going
[30/12/2014, 9:27:17 AM] Athena Hollow: Best belated xmas present evar.
[30/12/2014, 9:27:22 AM] Charloppe: ikr
[30/12/2014, 9:27:22 AM] Remy: And also GG doxed Chris in the comments
[30/12/2014, 9:27:23 AM] SF: This is real "roll 212" quality hot seating.
[30/12/2014, 9:27:39 AM] Remy: So it's exactly as expected thus far
[30/12/2014, 9:27:50 AM] Remy: Mike is far less physically intimidated than I'd had him built up in my mind
[30/12/2014, 9:27:54 AM] Remy: intimidating*
[30/12/2014, 9:27:55 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Much love from the fucks you sicced a PI on, Cernovich.
[30/12/2014, 9:28:00 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/VeiledMeaness
[30/12/2014, 9:28:02 AM] Remy: Oh yeah
[30/12/2014, 9:28:03 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: right?
[30/12/2014, 9:28:05 AM] Athena Hollow: that's the one that doxed chris
[30/12/2014, 9:28:07 AM] Remy: That's the mometn you missed, Matt
[30/12/2014, 9:28:09 AM] SF: Yeah he sounds like a dork too.
[30/12/2014, 9:28:22 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: It's like looking at a roided out lisping Charlie Day or something
[30/12/2014, 9:28:32 AM] live:riotarms: Cernovich being a wannabe is mind blowing
[30/12/2014, 9:28:46 AM] Remy: He's full blown wannabe though
[30/12/2014, 9:28:47 AM] live:riotarms: He's like every always sunny character at once
[30/12/2014, 9:28:59 AM] Remy: Like he even praised Chris Kluwe as, and I quote, "Genetic elite"
[30/12/2014, 9:29:01 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: he really is
[30/12/2014, 9:29:30 AM] live:riotarms: GamerGate has the same narrative arc as Always Sunny
[30/12/2014, 9:30:00 AM] Remy: I can't watch that show 'cause it makes me wanna punch all the characters and their actors in the face
[30/12/2014, 9:30:14 AM] live:riotarms: Ooooooooh
[30/12/2014, 9:30:18 AM] Remy: but I hear it's hilarious
[30/12/2014, 9:30:19 AM] SF: DAMN
[30/12/2014, 9:30:24 AM] SF: Slam dunk
[30/12/2014, 9:30:34 AM] live:riotarms: Calling them out on anti gamer activity
[30/12/2014, 9:30:36 AM] Charloppe: that was a ko
[30/12/2014, 9:30:44 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i missed it
[30/12/2014, 9:30:44 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: qq
[30/12/2014, 9:30:45 AM] Tesseract: same
[30/12/2014, 9:30:52 AM] live:riotarms: All the way from downtown
[30/12/2014, 9:30:57 AM] SF: Threw the paint
[30/12/2014, 9:31:17 AM] SF: Like we haven't been complaining about the game press for YEARS
[30/12/2014, 9:31:33 AM] live:riotarms: This is like Johny Cage punching off three heads at once
[30/12/2014, 9:31:41 AM] SF: Yes hahaha
[30/12/2014, 9:31:56 AM] live:riotarms: Except afterward Kano insists he won
[30/12/2014, 9:32:26 AM] Remy: I didn't realize that GG's Gawker fascination was about some sting they did on Reddit
[30/12/2014, 9:32:31 AM] Remy: That explains so much
[30/12/2014, 9:32:33 AM] live:riotarms: Mike's too dumb to realise he can loose sadly
[30/12/2014, 9:32:48 AM] live:riotarms: Oh yeah they hated Adrian Chen right?
[30/12/2014, 9:33:26 AM] Remy: It's weird how soooo much of GamerGate just ends up being this secret grudge of child pornographers lashing out at the people who expose them
[30/12/2014, 9:33:38 AM] live:riotarms: Because he was outing their CP, creep shots  and plans to build a seasteading community
[30/12/2014, 9:34:13 AM] live:riotarms: Most gamergate posters love their lolicon avatars don't they
[30/12/2014, 9:34:27 AM] Remy: It's hard to tell them apart from regular anime
[30/12/2014, 9:34:33 AM] Remy: With just a thumbnail
[30/12/2014, 9:34:51 AM] live:riotarms: Ooooooooh
[30/12/2014, 9:34:57 AM] Remy: even the avatars of girls blushing in compromising looking ways, b/c that's still a very ubiquitous trope in mainstream anime
[30/12/2014, 9:35:17 AM] live:riotarms: A-top: it's mainly childlike schoolgirls
[30/12/2014, 9:35:17 AM] Remy: Kind-of like how a cumshot is ubiquitous in music videos
[30/12/2014, 9:35:40 AM] Rob: So fucking happy right now
[30/12/2014, 9:35:40 AM] live:riotarms: I called one out and he was like "she's actually a 300 year old robot"
[30/12/2014, 9:35:41 AM] Athena Hollow: "gamergate.news" hahahahahaha
[30/12/2014, 9:35:59 AM] Remy: I didn't even know gamergate.news was a website
[30/12/2014, 9:36:06 AM] Remy: how am I not trolling that site
[30/12/2014, 9:36:10 AM] live:riotarms: Loved Mike's fake hollow laugh
[30/12/2014, 9:36:10 AM] Rob: All I have to do is go to bed in a bit, wake up at 3, and head to the airport around 4:20
[30/12/2014, 9:36:16 AM] Rob: and then \o/
[30/12/2014, 9:36:16 AM] Athena Hollow: RYULONG IS TAKING PAYOFFS TO ATTACK GAMERGATE GUIZE
[30/12/2014, 9:36:16 AM] Tesseract: it's not
[30/12/2014, 9:36:19 AM] Athena Hollow: IT'S BEEN PROVEN!
[30/12/2014, 9:36:25 AM] live:riotarms: 420 huh
[30/12/2014, 9:36:29 AM] Tesseract: haha oh god is he bringing up ryulong
[30/12/2014, 9:36:31 AM] Rob: I wish it was pot
[30/12/2014, 9:37:17 AM] live:riotarms: Kluwe, Kluwe, Kluwe, Kluwe, Kluwe, Kluwe
[30/12/2014, 9:37:19 AM] Charloppe: chris your in a cult lololololololol
[30/12/2014, 9:37:27 AM] Athena Hollow: LOLOL
[30/12/2014, 9:37:34 AM] Athena Hollow: "rational people" who haven't been doxxed yet
[30/12/2014, 9:37:37 AM] live:riotarms: GG is a huge cult hahahaha
[30/12/2014, 9:37:39 AM] Remy: We need to de-program Chris
[30/12/2014, 9:37:42 AM] Athena Hollow: XD
[30/12/2014, 9:37:43 AM] Remy: from our SJW cult
[30/12/2014, 9:37:51 AM] SF: PRETEND LAUGH
[30/12/2014, 9:38:31 AM] live:riotarms: I'm watching this on a 47 inch flatscreen and it's utterly surreal
[30/12/2014, 9:38:31 AM] Athena Hollow: THE PAYOFFS TO RYULONG!
[30/12/2014, 9:38:35 AM] Athena Hollow: this is hilarious as shit.
[30/12/2014, 9:38:48 AM] Charloppe: omg
[30/12/2014, 9:39:01 AM] Charloppe: this is amazing
[30/12/2014, 9:39:09 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL 500 people XD
[30/12/2014, 9:39:13 AM] SF: We're in control of the media but we just don't have that many people on our side :(
[30/12/2014, 9:39:17 AM] Remy: PBS Newshour
[30/12/2014, 9:39:28 AM] SF: GameJournoPros bribed all these newspapers AND Wikipedia
[30/12/2014, 9:39:40 AM] live:riotarms: Oh fuck
[30/12/2014, 9:39:53 AM] Charloppe: the ownage
[30/12/2014, 9:39:59 AM] Tesseract: I finally tuned in and lmao this is fucking hilarious
[30/12/2014, 9:40:15 AM] SF: The only way to debate is to agree with everything 50%.
[30/12/2014, 9:40:19 AM] live:riotarms: He should bring up milo refusing to pay people then sexually harassing them so they'd back down
[30/12/2014, 9:40:24 AM] Athena Hollow: "Should we or shouldn't we allow these assholes to harass ZQ on our websites?" That's the extent of the "collusion"
[30/12/2014, 9:40:30 AM] live:riotarms: Which is super ethical
[30/12/2014, 9:40:42 AM] Tesseract: I feel like chris would win this regardless of what was being argued
[30/12/2014, 9:40:42 AM] live:riotarms: Oh fuck CHRIS
[30/12/2014, 9:40:48 AM] Charloppe: oh wow mike
[30/12/2014, 9:40:54 AM] Athena Hollow: HAH!
[30/12/2014, 9:41:06 AM] Athena Hollow: DEVI OLIVER
[30/12/2014, 9:41:07 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: man i am missing out apparently
[30/12/2014, 9:41:08 AM] Charloppe: not like chole has tried to kill herself
[30/12/2014, 9:41:11 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: DEVI ELOBER
[30/12/2014, 9:41:20 AM] SF: Well she's at no risk of being deadnamed it seems.
[30/12/2014, 9:41:33 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 9:41:43 AM] Athena Hollow: she called out Milo's transphobic bullshit & they lost their shit on her.
[30/12/2014, 9:41:50 AM] Athena Hollow: 'DONT YELL ABOUT BASED JOURNO SENPAI!"
[30/12/2014, 9:41:57 AM] Charloppe: rofl
[30/12/2014, 9:42:01 AM] Athena Hollow: He doesn't get "listen & believe"
[30/12/2014, 9:42:03 AM] live:riotarms: The level of victim blaming projection here is incredible
[30/12/2014, 9:42:05 AM] Athena Hollow: like... at all.
[30/12/2014, 9:42:15 AM] Charloppe: how does one become like mike
[30/12/2014, 9:42:23 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 9:42:24 AM] Charloppe: how does this happen
[30/12/2014, 9:42:26 AM] Athena Hollow: drugs.
[30/12/2014, 9:42:27 AM] Charloppe: OMG
[30/12/2014, 9:42:30 AM] Athena Hollow: divorce.
[30/12/2014, 9:42:33 AM] Charloppe: whats your crime
[30/12/2014, 9:42:35 AM] Athena Hollow: being a latent asshole.
[30/12/2014, 9:42:47 AM] Athena Hollow: LMFAO
[30/12/2014, 9:42:51 AM] Athena Hollow: HE SAID CHRIS WAS A SCIENTOLOGIST
[30/12/2014, 9:42:55 AM] Athena Hollow: XD
[30/12/2014, 9:42:58 AM] Athena Hollow: holy shit dude. omg.
[30/12/2014, 9:43:00 AM] Chris Kluwe: i felt bad about the super serum, he looked so sad
[30/12/2014, 9:43:02 AM] Remy: XD
[30/12/2014, 9:43:03 AM] Athena Hollow: XD
[30/12/2014, 9:43:05 AM] Remy: Okay debate over
[30/12/2014, 9:43:10 AM] SF: I regret that I have but two fives to high you with Chris.
[30/12/2014, 9:43:12 AM] Remy: That was entertaining
[30/12/2014, 9:43:13 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: "Debate"
[30/12/2014, 9:43:21 AM] Remy: What wolf said
[30/12/2014, 9:43:22 AM] Athena Hollow: like. srsly. holy crap, man.
[30/12/2014, 9:43:25 AM] Charloppe: chris
[30/12/2014, 9:43:28 AM] Charloppe: just amazing
[30/12/2014, 9:43:38 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: You really should consider a career as a talkshow host if the whole football thing doesn't pan out.
[30/12/2014, 9:43:44 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 9:43:51 AM] SF: Yeah you have really good enunciation and sense of pacing.
[30/12/2014, 9:43:53 AM] Remy: I don't even wanna hire white dudes but I would let chris get a show
[30/12/2014, 9:44:01 AM] Remy: When I'm a media mogul
[30/12/2014, 9:44:15 AM] Charloppe: the tears in the sidechat
[30/12/2014, 9:44:24 AM] live:riotarms: So here's something I wanna do
[30/12/2014, 9:44:27 AM] Remy: so many gater tears
[30/12/2014, 9:44:29 AM] Athena Hollow: the doxing in the side chat lol
[30/12/2014, 9:44:29 AM] Remy: in the sidechat
[30/12/2014, 9:44:35 AM] Athena Hollow: under his goddamn twitter name.
[30/12/2014, 9:44:37 AM] Athena Hollow: what an idiot.
[30/12/2014, 9:44:40 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I was totally against that whole thing but WOW did I ever need to learn what that loser looked and sounded like
[30/12/2014, 9:44:47 AM] Tesseract: haha this fucking chat
[30/12/2014, 9:44:47 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: really illuminating.
[30/12/2014, 9:44:53 AM] live:riotarms: Find out who was attacking ninja theory on twitter two years ago when DmC hit
[30/12/2014, 9:44:54 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: wait who doxxed someone? do we have screens?
[30/12/2014, 9:44:59 AM] Tesseract: "BUT CHRIS GOT ALL THE FACTS WRONG"
[30/12/2014, 9:45:00 AM] SF: The chat I find more depressing because they still have protection of the swarm.
[30/12/2014, 9:45:09 AM] SF: I'd enjoy watching any of the chat monsters go up toe to toe on video though.
[30/12/2014, 9:45:10 AM] Athena Hollow: Sadly didn't get a screen in time :-/ DID get a copy of the text.
[30/12/2014, 9:45:14 AM] Athena Hollow: but yeah.
[30/12/2014, 9:45:23 AM] Athena Hollow: hopefully someone got a screen though
[30/12/2014, 9:45:24 AM] live:riotarms: They're like that SoTN boss, legion
[30/12/2014, 9:45:28 AM] SF: People are accusing you of "fish gallop" ahahaha
[30/12/2014, 9:45:50 AM] Remy: Image
[30/12/2014, 9:45:51 AM] Charloppe: i agree with that comparison
[30/12/2014, 9:45:53 AM] Remy: Sarah ^
[30/12/2014, 9:46:03 AM] live:riotarms: That was a hell of a morale boost chris
[30/12/2014, 9:46:15 AM] Athena Hollow: god he's so fucking incompetent
[30/12/2014, 9:46:18 AM] Chris Kluwe: please tell me someone got a grab of the doxxing
[30/12/2014, 9:46:18 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: ty stephen
[30/12/2014, 9:46:23 AM] Athena Hollow: Awesome Stephen!
[30/12/2014, 9:46:24 AM] Remy: I'm not on the Trello board
[30/12/2014, 9:46:25 AM] Athena Hollow: AND!
[30/12/2014, 9:46:27 AM] SF: I didn't see it I'm afraid.
[30/12/2014, 9:46:32 AM] Chris Kluwe: drat, i'd love to post that
[30/12/2014, 9:46:35 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/VeiledMeaness
[30/12/2014, 9:46:40 AM] Remy: And I didn't get the account page up I was afraid of losing the main page
[30/12/2014, 9:46:47 AM] Remy: Thank you Athena
[30/12/2014, 9:46:52 AM] Tesseract: stephen just posted the screenshot
[30/12/2014, 9:46:58 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah
[30/12/2014, 9:46:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: also thanks for tuning in everyone :)
[30/12/2014, 9:47:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: that was so much fun
[30/12/2014, 9:47:05 AM] SF: Thank YOU Chris.
[30/12/2014, 9:47:06 AM] Athena Hollow: If you look up his screen name from yahoo chat, it's that screen name that comes up on twitter
[30/12/2014, 9:47:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: i love arguing with idiots
[30/12/2014, 9:47:09 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahaha
[30/12/2014, 9:47:17 AM] Athena Hollow: YOU'RE LIKE, A SCIENTOLOGIST MAN.
[30/12/2014, 9:47:17 AM] SF: You put the Chris in Christmas.
[30/12/2014, 9:47:21 AM] Tesseract: chris you are a hero
[30/12/2014, 9:47:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: WHEN DOES M CULT CHECK COME IN
[30/12/2014, 9:47:32 AM] Charloppe: mad respect xhris
[30/12/2014, 9:47:33 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 9:47:38 AM] live:riotarms: I've never seen someone deal with horseshit in such a relaxed way
[30/12/2014, 9:47:40 AM] SF: We're out of money after bribing every newspaper :(
[30/12/2014, 9:47:43 AM] Quinnae: Quinnae returns with home cooked dinner. "I assume it went well?"
[30/12/2014, 9:47:45 AM] live:riotarms: Have you done milo yet
[30/12/2014, 9:47:45 AM] SF: And Jimmy Wales.
[30/12/2014, 9:47:46 AM] Quinnae: grins
[30/12/2014, 9:47:48 AM] Charloppe: yes
[30/12/2014, 9:47:50 AM] Charloppe: yes it did
[30/12/2014, 9:47:52 AM] Chris Kluwe: it's the best way to deal with it. let them smother themselves
[30/12/2014, 9:48:01 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Went about as expected but....
[30/12/2014, 9:48:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: self-important people absolutely CANNOT handle being laughed it
[30/12/2014, 9:48:09 AM] Chris Kluwe: at
[30/12/2014, 9:48:12 AM] Chris Kluwe: it drives them nuts
[30/12/2014, 9:48:13 AM] SF: So did it look like he almost started crying on your end too?
[30/12/2014, 9:48:19 AM] live:riotarms: It's not something my temper allows sadly
[30/12/2014, 9:48:22 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: who was it that described him like the whole cast of Always Sunny in one person because WOW was that accurate.
[30/12/2014, 9:48:28 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh, i couldn't tell on my end
[30/12/2014, 9:48:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: rofl ssg
[30/12/2014, 9:48:30 AM] Charloppe: those were def some gater tears
[30/12/2014, 9:48:32 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's perfect
[30/12/2014, 9:48:32 AM] live:riotarms: That was me
[30/12/2014, 9:48:46 AM] live:riotarms: Oh that cup
[30/12/2014, 9:48:53 AM] Rob: I only caught the first 30
[30/12/2014, 9:48:58 AM] live:riotarms: When his back was turned too
[30/12/2014, 9:49:01 AM] Charloppe: i laughed at the cup so hard
[30/12/2014, 9:49:01 AM] Rob: Did it get even better?!
[30/12/2014, 9:49:08 AM] Charloppe: yes
[30/12/2014, 9:49:10 AM] Athena Hollow: yes.
[30/12/2014, 9:49:12 AM] Rob: AWESOME
[30/12/2014, 9:49:14 AM] Rob: I can't wait until tomorrow
[30/12/2014, 9:49:16 AM] SF: You're at about 85% downvotes.
[30/12/2014, 9:49:25 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: He eventually started getting into "the problem with your cult" talk
[30/12/2014, 9:49:28 AM] live:riotarms: I liked when he had to speak the absurd shit he was asking his IRC elves for
[30/12/2014, 9:49:38 AM] Chris Kluwe: like, i could've kept going forever, just to hear him rationalize
[30/12/2014, 9:49:43 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: and the chat posted Chris' address when he mentioned not getting doxxed
[30/12/2014, 9:49:43 AM] Chris Kluwe: but i have to ffed my kids :/
[30/12/2014, 9:49:50 AM] Athena Hollow: god, it was fucking pretzel logic to the extreme
[30/12/2014, 9:49:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: i wish my chat wasn't borked
[30/12/2014, 9:50:01 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: chris i only heard the first hour but it was awesome :3
[30/12/2014, 9:50:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: i would've loved to have seen that
[30/12/2014, 9:50:04 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/549743673110310912 btw
[30/12/2014, 9:50:12 AM] Charloppe: devil ebiler
[30/12/2014, 9:50:15 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: it's been linked here like twice now
[30/12/2014, 9:50:17 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: DEVI ELOBER
[30/12/2014, 9:50:22 AM] live:riotarms: The GG strategy is pure Freudian projection, you all notice that
[30/12/2014, 9:50:23 AM] Athena Hollow: DEVI OLIVER
[30/12/2014, 9:50:24 AM] Tesseract: devi earlobe
[30/12/2014, 9:50:26 AM] Athena Hollow: he can't make up his fucking mind.
[30/12/2014, 9:50:28 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh perfect, thanks butts
[30/12/2014, 9:50:32 AM] Remy: lol Sarah
[30/12/2014, 9:50:40 AM] Remy: That screenshot shows my YT account name in green
[30/12/2014, 9:50:51 AM] Remy: You don't have to take it down
[30/12/2014, 9:50:59 AM] SF: Devil blubber
[30/12/2014, 9:50:59 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: oh derp
[30/12/2014, 9:51:02 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i can repost it if you like
[30/12/2014, 9:51:05 AM] Remy: Apparently right before they doxed Kluwe I had trolled the room by shouting TRUST BUT VERIFAH
[30/12/2014, 9:51:11 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 9:51:16 AM] Remy: It's meh  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[30/12/2014, 9:51:18 AM] Quinnae: Nicely done with the screencap, and Chris, I didn't see it I'm afraid, but congrats-- you seem to be getting good reviews. ;)
[30/12/2014, 9:51:21 AM] Quinnae: Thanks for doing this.
[30/12/2014, 9:51:22 AM] live:riotarms: It basically ammounts to "no, YOU'RE the poo head" except they're adults
[30/12/2014, 9:51:24 AM] Remy: My YT channel is scrubbed of all identifiable info
[30/12/2014, 9:51:33 AM] Remy: I have long since planned for it being attached to any of my online activity
[30/12/2014, 9:51:37 AM] Athena Hollow: They are so fucking dumb. They really think "listen & believe" means you can't question anything ever.
[30/12/2014, 9:51:56 AM] Remy: Honestly it will be interesting to see if they notice and what they do with it
[30/12/2014, 9:51:57 AM] Charloppe: this side chat is so funny
[30/12/2014, 9:51:58 AM] Athena Hollow: And that because you shouldn't put someone down for being disabled or black or gay, that means you can't point out when they say shitty things BECAUSE OF THAT STUFF
[30/12/2014, 9:52:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: aaaaand, retweeted
[30/12/2014, 9:52:05 AM] Remy: Maybe they will think my YT account is Sarah's
[30/12/2014, 9:52:11 AM] Rob: Alright, good night, folks! Gotta be up around 3 AM, so g'night
[30/12/2014, 9:52:12 AM] live:riotarms: Athena the best was that canoness girl and intel going back to sutra
[30/12/2014, 9:52:15 AM] Charloppe: wait wtf
[30/12/2014, 9:52:16 AM] Athena Hollow: night rob :)
[30/12/2014, 9:52:19 AM] Charloppe: sarah youn are more ppl
[30/12/2014, 9:52:26 AM] Chris Kluwe: night rob
[30/12/2014, 9:52:30 AM] Ian Cheong: Aw
[30/12/2014, 9:52:32 AM] Ian Cheong: I missed it!
[30/12/2014, 9:52:38 AM] Charloppe: who is my gf ;.;
[30/12/2014, 9:52:39 AM] Ian Cheong: I assume it went well? The debate
[30/12/2014, 9:52:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: it should be saved on my youtube videos
[30/12/2014, 9:52:42 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: you did awesome, chris <3
[30/12/2014, 9:52:45 AM] Chris Kluwe: it was hilarious
[30/12/2014, 9:52:46 AM] live:riotarms: And she was "don't believe the telegraph! A KNOW SJW wrote that"
[30/12/2014, 9:52:49 AM] Chris Kluwe: thanks :)
[30/12/2014, 9:52:57 AM] Ian Cheong: I wonder if anyone recorded it
[30/12/2014, 9:52:58 AM] Remy: omg
[30/12/2014, 9:53:00 AM] Remy: Sarah
[30/12/2014, 9:53:03 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I really did need that today too.
[30/12/2014, 9:53:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CULPtbETOL8
[30/12/2014, 9:53:09 AM] Remy: I'm gonna turn my twitter account into a tribute to yours real quick
[30/12/2014, 9:53:09 AM] Chris Kluwe: debate link
[30/12/2014, 9:53:10 AM] Ian Cheong: I'd like to see a recap/VOD of it
[30/12/2014, 9:53:13 AM] Chris Kluwe: for those who need it
[30/12/2014, 9:53:20 AM] Ian Cheong: YAY!!!
[30/12/2014, 9:53:25 AM] Remy: You'll enjoy it, Ian
[30/12/2014, 9:53:38 AM] Chris Kluwe: ok, i gotta go feed the kids, catch you all later :)
[30/12/2014, 9:53:45 AM] Ian Cheong: Catch you later Chris
[30/12/2014, 9:53:55 AM] Charloppe: byyyye
[30/12/2014, 9:54:19 AM] Athena Hollow: lol the downvotes. Someone mentioned something before about how all the YT personalities have tons of upvotes and the "antis" have tons of down, which means they're totes right.
[30/12/2014, 9:54:30 AM] Athena Hollow: To which I thought "No, you guys brigade everything, wtf are you going on about?" LOL
[30/12/2014, 9:54:39 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/549744579033833473 lol
[30/12/2014, 9:54:42 AM] Athena Hollow: Just means we don't waste our time downvoting shit
[30/12/2014, 9:54:55 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHHAHAHAH
[30/12/2014, 9:54:59 AM] Athena Hollow: Goddamn he's dumb.
[30/12/2014, 9:55:00 AM] Charloppe: awww poor mike
[30/12/2014, 9:55:03 AM] Charloppe: poor alpha male
[30/12/2014, 9:55:15 AM] Remy: "I wasn't there to win, I was there to show how bad they are"
[30/12/2014, 9:55:17 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/DarthXaos316/status/549745011164995584
[30/12/2014, 9:55:19 AM] Remy: Mission accomplished, dude
[30/12/2014, 9:55:25 AM] Remy: You definitely showed everyone how bad they are
[30/12/2014, 9:55:28 AM] SF: I dare say he got raw dogged pretty hard.
[30/12/2014, 9:55:28 AM] live:riotarms: That's not very baller mike
[30/12/2014, 9:55:35 AM] SF: Maybe even hot sauced.
[30/12/2014, 9:55:40 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 9:55:42 AM] SF: hot dogged
[30/12/2014, 9:55:51 AM] Charloppe: whats dogpiling?
[30/12/2014, 9:56:17 AM] live:riotarms: He's going to claim it's because he accidentally came before the debate and released all his thetans
[30/12/2014, 9:56:19 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: "I don't know anything about chans or videogames or who Randi Harper is"
[30/12/2014, 9:56:29 AM] Remy: https://twitter.com/DarthXaos316/status/549745011164995584
[30/12/2014, 9:56:34 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: "This whole thing started with Zoe, but why are we talking about her?"
[30/12/2014, 9:56:46 AM] Athena Hollow: His views on harassment are as antiquated as anyone who thinks online speech should be differently regulated than offline.
[30/12/2014, 9:56:51 AM] Charloppe: cause i dont give a fuck
[30/12/2014, 9:56:55 AM] Charloppe: wait no wait
[30/12/2014, 9:56:57 AM] Charloppe: now i do
[30/12/2014, 9:57:25 AM] Athena Hollow: Mass amounts of proof of Eron specifically doing & saying what he's done to get people to attack Zoe.
[30/12/2014, 9:57:33 AM] Athena Hollow: And yet, Mike hadn't seen one of them.
[30/12/2014, 9:57:38 AM] live:riotarms: He said "why are we talking about zoe" and like two minutes later she was all he was talking about
[30/12/2014, 9:57:45 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I might be paraphrasing a little, but he literally did bring her up and then ask why she was brought up in the same. Sentence.
[30/12/2014, 9:58:02 AM] live:riotarms: Well, GG has a supernatural ability to ignore Eron's sins
[30/12/2014, 9:58:30 AM] Athena Hollow: They have the supernatural ability to ignore the things they said half a sentence ago LOL
[30/12/2014, 9:58:48 AM] Athena Hollow: "That's not what I said"
No it's literally what you just said.
[30/12/2014, 9:59:05 AM] Athena Hollow: and he didn't even bother clarifying what he meant, that he might have worded it wrong, whatever. No. He doubled down on "That's not what I said"
[30/12/2014, 9:59:14 AM] Athena Hollow: fucker, we have this shit ready to rewind LOL
[30/12/2014, 10:00:44 AM] live:riotarms: This deserves a supercut
[30/12/2014, 10:01:09 AM] SF: Cernovich didn't ever come up with the link he promised did he?
[30/12/2014, 10:01:13 AM] SF: Even though he asked GG for it.
[30/12/2014, 10:01:24 AM] live:riotarms: Man I can't believe Milo blocked me
[30/12/2014, 10:01:25 AM] SF: Yeah a supercut would be good.
[30/12/2014, 10:01:31 AM] Ian Cheong: a supercut would bea mazing
[30/12/2014, 10:01:32 AM] Ian Cheong: maybe peter can make it
[30/12/2014, 10:01:38 AM] Ian Cheong: or rob
[30/12/2014, 10:01:40 AM] SF: He didn't block me after I linked him my sexy Renamon wallpaper so that means he probably liked it.
[30/12/2014, 10:01:40 AM] live:riotarms: Sounds like his facade is cracking from when I was looking around
[30/12/2014, 10:01:55 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: is spacedad here
[30/12/2014, 10:01:59 AM] live:riotarms: He's been demanding people delete tweets
[30/12/2014, 10:01:59 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: they're trying to frame him for something
[30/12/2014, 10:02:05 AM] Remy: I have seen way more Renamon porn than I am comfortable with discussing
[30/12/2014, 10:02:09 AM] SF: Better put that in Serious.
[30/12/2014, 10:02:16 AM] Remy: Which isn't to say that I was looking for Renamon porn
[30/12/2014, 10:02:18 AM] Athena Hollow: he's not. and goddammit.
[30/12/2014, 10:02:22 AM] Tesseract: spacedad refused to join
[30/12/2014, 10:02:23 AM] Remy: But I was in a place where I am more likely to see it
[30/12/2014, 10:02:37 AM] SF: e621?
[30/12/2014, 10:02:39 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://t.co/UW4cq7oTga
[30/12/2014, 10:02:45 AM] Ian Cheong: 9:00 is great!
[30/12/2014, 10:03:01 AM] Athena Hollow: gross.
[30/12/2014, 10:03:02 AM] Ian Cheong: where chris talks about gamergate vs the rest of the world.
[30/12/2014, 10:03:08 AM] live:riotarms: Oh my god
[30/12/2014, 10:03:14 AM] Athena Hollow: Too bad that same fucking screen name already did that himself to another woman.
[30/12/2014, 10:03:18 AM] Athena Hollow: So yeah, he's a fucking moron.
[30/12/2014, 10:03:31 AM] live:riotarms: They jacked off to prove a fake point?
[30/12/2014, 10:03:51 AM] live:riotarms: Awful people
[30/12/2014, 10:03:55 AM] Athena Hollow: they're literally hate masturbating
[30/12/2014, 10:04:05 AM] Ian Cheong: why did they jerk off over lizzy's picture?
[30/12/2014, 10:04:10 AM] Athena Hollow: It's as close to the mentality of rape as you can get without raping someone.
[30/12/2014, 10:04:14 AM] Athena Hollow: To frame SuperSpaceDad for it
[30/12/2014, 10:04:18 AM] Athena Hollow: because they're douches.
[30/12/2014, 10:04:24 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: that person's been harassing people on both sides ian
[30/12/2014, 10:04:32 AM] Athena Hollow: I think they're GNAA
[30/12/2014, 10:04:49 AM] David Gallant: What did I miss?
[30/12/2014, 10:05:39 AM] Remy: Weird I thought Space Dad followed me on Twitter
[30/12/2014, 10:05:45 AM] Remy: I was gonna DM him a heads up
[30/12/2014, 10:06:08 AM] live:riotarms: He follows me I think? Need me to pass anything along?
[30/12/2014, 10:06:47 AM] Remy: https://mobile.twitter.com/lizzyf620/status/549713497161232385
[30/12/2014, 10:07:15 AM] Remy: They're trying to imply that he sent photos of a woman to a harasser to specifically request a tribute shot
[30/12/2014, 10:08:50 AM] live:riotarms: Sent him the link
[30/12/2014, 10:09:00 AM] live:riotarms: God, weird link to have to send
[30/12/2014, 10:09:42 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: who are you, james? D: sorry i don't recognize the name
[30/12/2014, 10:10:03 AM] live:riotarms: I'm gonna rejoin, this is knifehorse
[30/12/2014, 10:10:13 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: oh, hi!
[30/12/2014, 10:10:16 AM] live:riotarms: First time Skype user
[30/12/2014, 10:10:19 AM] David Gallant: So I can't find a Twitter conversation between Spacedad and that user...
[30/12/2014, 10:10:20 AM] Remy: Hey Sarah https://twitter.com/lizzyf620/status/549725925152419841
[30/12/2014, 10:10:25 AM] Remy: She has interacted with that troll beore
[30/12/2014, 10:10:26 AM] live:riotarms: Hi!
[30/12/2014, 10:10:29 AM] Remy: Like... as recently as an hour ago
[30/12/2014, 10:10:46 AM] SF: https://twitter.com/CelticSteelNY/status/549748515459858433 Mind if I asked what the context here was? I can't see David's tweet.
[30/12/2014, 10:10:53 AM] SF: (I don't follow most people here)
[30/12/2014, 10:11:35 AM] Remy: Sarah s/549731403118936064
[30/12/2014, 10:11:39 AM] Remy: damnnit
[30/12/2014, 10:11:40 AM] Remy: hold on
[30/12/2014, 10:11:48 AM] Remy: https://twitter.com/lizzyf620/status/549731403118936064
[30/12/2014, 10:12:09 AM] David Gallant: SF, I was just asking if they were trying to pin the "tribute pic" on me, as GG has been overly focused on my masturbatory habits lately.
[30/12/2014, 10:12:27 AM] Tesseract: @GameappMakerCo @untimelygamer They're not trying to pin that shit on me, are they?
[30/12/2014, 10:12:33 AM] nicholas.boterf: Yeah I am interested in that too- where are they trying to pin this on SpaceDad
[30/12/2014, 10:13:03 AM] David Gallant: The tweet also doesn't have a timestamp, which is super weird.
[30/12/2014, 10:14:08 AM] David Gallant: Actually I guess it's not, timestamp would be below the pic.
[30/12/2014, 10:15:46 AM] nicholas.boterf: SJWIlluminati got it: https://twitter.com/SJWIlluminati/status/549750244976914432
[30/12/2014, 10:17:23 AM] Remy: oh god I forgot to eat again my head is killing me
[30/12/2014, 10:17:43 AM] Athena Hollow: yeah ive been too sick to bother with eating much -_-
[30/12/2014, 10:18:44 AM] SF: Ah thanks.
[30/12/2014, 10:19:08 AM] live:riotarms: Ok think I scrubbed my real name off
[30/12/2014, 10:19:52 AM] live:riotarms: If anyone needs some post debate tunes I found this great italo mix on YouTube Dj Rajak84 - Italo 80s Ultimate Mix: http://youtu.be/V6NL2dTMtvo
[30/12/2014, 10:20:12 AM] David Gallant: Goddamn that tribute pic is still grossing me out.
[30/12/2014, 10:21:25 AM] SF: So how long until we get accusations that that debate was faked.
[30/12/2014, 10:21:34 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 10:21:34 AM] live:riotarms: It's a really weird thing to decide to do
[30/12/2014, 10:21:37 AM] SF: Or we took that hour+ of conversation out of context.
[30/12/2014, 10:21:55 AM] Remy: hey knife horse I know you hate Skype but plz do us all a favor and make sure you have two-factor auth. set up
[30/12/2014, 10:21:56 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): MIKE C WAS PLAYING A CHARACTER. IT WAS SATIRE
[30/12/2014, 10:22:02 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
[30/12/2014, 10:22:07 AM] David Gallant: What.
[30/12/2014, 10:22:08 AM] SF: I guess "I wasn't trying to win" is kind of that.
[30/12/2014, 10:22:11 AM] live:riotarms: I'm glad he got it in that hotwheels fled the country
[30/12/2014, 10:22:35 AM] Remy: Have we confirmed that hot wheels has actually fled US soil?
[30/12/2014, 10:23:05 AM] live:riotarms: It's in that Adrian Chen piece about his strip club party
[30/12/2014, 10:23:27 AM] live:riotarms: He was leaving to work with a foreign imgboard
[30/12/2014, 10:23:27 AM] Tesseract: are we sure adrian chen wasn't just going by hotwheels's word
[30/12/2014, 10:23:32 AM] Tesseract: 2ch
[30/12/2014, 10:23:34 AM] Remy: Weird I read that piece but I don't remember that detail
[30/12/2014, 10:23:54 AM] live:riotarms: Are the FBI on 8chan yet
[30/12/2014, 10:23:55 AM] Tesseract: it's way unlikely that he faked moving but there is a super tiny possibility
[30/12/2014, 10:24:00 AM] Tesseract: how would we know
[30/12/2014, 10:24:06 AM] live:riotarms: It needs to not exist
[30/12/2014, 10:24:09 AM] Tesseract: if they aren't, they will be soon
[30/12/2014, 10:24:38 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I've tossed a couple reports along through a couple of sources, both back in October and when Simone and Dan wrote their articles on it
[30/12/2014, 10:24:39 AM] Remy: Thus far if the FBI has been paying attention to 8chan it has only been to watch and see. They have not felt the applicable fire under their ass to produce results
[30/12/2014, 10:24:39 AM] live:riotarms: The problem is they'll all find new rocks to crawl under
[30/12/2014, 10:25:29 AM] Tesseract: then we crush those rocks too
[30/12/2014, 10:25:37 AM] live:riotarms: The one good thing about GG is it lines all these generally disperate individuals up in a row
[30/12/2014, 10:26:07 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Also, I know it's never cool to judge people on their voice and appearance, but you know what else seeing Cernovich there reminded me of? Spaceballs.
[30/12/2014, 10:26:16 AM] live:riotarms: YES
[30/12/2014, 10:26:22 AM] David Gallant: Who specifically?
[30/12/2014, 10:26:28 AM] Remy: To our benefit, GG has also made a point of making itself hard to leave. Like most violent gangs
[30/12/2014, 10:26:29 AM] live:riotarms: Big Helmet
[30/12/2014, 10:26:39 AM] Remy: So they will stay lined up for a while
[30/12/2014, 10:26:54 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: http://www.politics.bm/images/Dark-Helmet.jpg
[30/12/2014, 10:27:08 AM] live:riotarms: The thing is, Mike makes such a fuss about how pure alpha he is I think it's valid
[30/12/2014, 10:27:20 AM] Quinnae: Oh?
[30/12/2014, 10:27:28 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Big nasty intimidating jerk, ordering his army of assholes, then you see him
[30/12/2014, 10:27:29 AM] SF: Saying we'll crush those rocks too and talking about the futility of this fight earlier was making me think of this T-shirt: http://www.inevitablezombieapocalypse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/horde.gif
[30/12/2014, 10:27:39 AM] live:riotarms: He's the punchline to a bad 80s screwball comedy
[30/12/2014, 10:27:43 AM] Quinnae: chuckles
[30/12/2014, 10:27:47 AM] SF: I find I can draw great strength in that image. It reminds me that there's beauty in being a survivor.
[30/12/2014, 10:28:18 AM] SF: I can build my identity around the idea of standing against impossible odds even if I know I won't win because I'd rather live like that as long as I can than to just be consumed by it without trying.
[30/12/2014, 10:28:46 AM] live:riotarms: Thing is, that dude in the middle is really gamergate, you're not as alone as you think
[30/12/2014, 10:28:52 AM] Remy: Sarah help me process the irony of GamerGate being made up of MRAs who are constantly theorizing that there are billions of false sexual harassment claims daily
[30/12/2014, 10:28:55 AM] SF: I know that's dangerously close to their stupid JRPG photoshop sentiments but it comforts me somehow.
[30/12/2014, 10:29:00 AM] Remy: Only for them to invent a false sexual harassment case
[30/12/2014, 10:29:08 AM] Remy: And therefore become the enemy they have always feared
[30/12/2014, 10:29:20 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: really, as that image goes, you should think of yourself as the zombies
[30/12/2014, 10:29:22 AM] live:riotarms: The only reason these people are so effective is because they lack the sense of worth to accept defeat
[30/12/2014, 10:29:24 AM] SF: I feel like the dude in the middle is GG unless you look at society's problems on a larger scale.
[30/12/2014, 10:29:36 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: massively outnumbering a couple jerks pointing guns at you
[30/12/2014, 10:29:45 AM] SF: Against society as a whole I feel like people who give a shit about anything are the extreme minority.
[30/12/2014, 10:30:05 AM] live:riotarms: I think GG is going to be a wakeup call for a lot of people to examine their prejudices
[30/12/2014, 10:30:09 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: working together with everyone around you, while the guys trying to kill you are constantly in-fighting...
[30/12/2014, 10:30:13 AM] Quinnae: If I had a dollar for every time I've used the Battle of Helm's Deep as a metaphor for the fight against patriarchy... smirks
[30/12/2014, 10:30:29 AM] Remy: nerd
[30/12/2014, 10:30:31 AM] Remy: :P
[30/12/2014, 10:30:31 AM] live:riotarms: It's energised a community to unite against it
[30/12/2014, 10:30:34 AM] Quinnae: grins
[30/12/2014, 10:30:41 AM] live:riotarms: Or so I like to hope
[30/12/2014, 10:30:48 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah, in the very long term, it seems like a good thing
[30/12/2014, 10:31:11 AM] live:riotarms: I resolved a major harassment issue that started the same day as GG last week
[30/12/2014, 10:31:18 AM] Remy: At least a handful of parents have caught their kids ranting about "SJWs" and "ethics" and realized their kids were joining a cult so at least we reached a few people
[30/12/2014, 10:31:29 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: because the context is the same people harassing a new victim every month for at least a good decade, and fading away before anyone can really be held accountable
[30/12/2014, 10:31:44 AM] Remy: ^
[30/12/2014, 10:32:01 AM] Remy: It does seem like the deeper everyone digs the more you see the same faces and names pop up
[30/12/2014, 10:32:05 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: having them all solidify and get their names out there, yeah
[30/12/2014, 10:32:12 AM] live:riotarms: The weird thing was talking to a random guy in the bar and he brought up Anita and how he disliked GG
[30/12/2014, 10:32:24 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Maddy Meyers pointed that out like 3 months ago now
[30/12/2014, 10:32:29 AM] SF: I found it particularly telling in the stream that the closest MC came to an argument was his making a case against anonymity.
[30/12/2014, 10:32:32 AM] live:riotarms: GG has brought these fuckers into a lot of crosshairs
[30/12/2014, 10:32:53 AM] SF: But man was it hard to find a platform in there. I expected techbro utopian talks about free speech but it was more just angry tearful screaming about whatever.
[30/12/2014, 10:33:21 AM] Remy: yeah Mike C didn't really want to put out any assertions
[30/12/2014, 10:33:25 AM] Remy: That he would have to back up
[30/12/2014, 10:33:31 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: wait, AGAINST anonymity? I must have missed this.
[30/12/2014, 10:33:32 AM] live:riotarms: I think I'm going to browse the GG tag with popcorn the day DmC Definitive hits
[30/12/2014, 10:33:49 AM] Athena Hollow: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qri1j/kluwe_vs_cernovitch_is_live/
[30/12/2014, 10:33:50 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 10:34:06 AM] live:riotarms: For all the game's faults they took a gamer man baby icon and turned him into a literal social justice warrior
[30/12/2014, 10:34:16 AM] Remy: lol what's going on with DmC that's going to piss them off?
[30/12/2014, 10:34:18 AM] live:riotarms: Your brother is a creepy Assange parody
[30/12/2014, 10:34:34 AM] Athena Hollow: "He's ignoring the photos of Grayson and Quinn on vacation in Vegas before the article was written, and the special thanks in 2013 from DQ. " HOLY SHIT. PEOPLE OF VARYING GENDERS ARE FRIENDS AND DO VACATION TOGETHER!
[30/12/2014, 10:34:54 AM] live:riotarms: Well, when DmC first hit it was a sort of proto-gamergate
[30/12/2014, 10:34:57 AM] Athena Hollow: this whole thread is gold.
[30/12/2014, 10:35:08 AM] Remy: o.O?
[30/12/2014, 10:35:15 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: someone did a really good takedown of that with a timeline
[30/12/2014, 10:35:16 AM] Remy: DmC as in Devil May Cry, right?
[30/12/2014, 10:35:19 AM] live:riotarms: With a ton of death threats and homophobia aimed at the ninja theory dude
[30/12/2014, 10:35:23 AM] live:riotarms: The reboot
[30/12/2014, 10:35:37 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Yo, white people are the worst.
[30/12/2014, 10:35:40 AM] Remy: So weird
[30/12/2014, 10:35:52 AM] Veerender Jubbal: This whole day.
[30/12/2014, 10:35:58 AM] live:riotarms: It's not perfect with how it handles women but it's a quantum leap from the old games
[30/12/2014, 10:36:04 AM] Remy: I'm sorry Veerender we're the worst :(
[30/12/2014, 10:36:38 AM] live:riotarms: Dante's an abuse survivor who fights despotic bankers and right wing pundits,  kinda like They Live
[30/12/2014, 10:36:44 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I do not know why me being Sikh, and having a turban needs to concern white folk.
[30/12/2014, 10:37:43 AM] live:riotarms: I think that's the extent they understand Sikhism
[30/12/2014, 10:37:57 AM] Remy: no, they mess that part up, too
[30/12/2014, 10:38:11 AM] live:riotarms: Oh, god
[30/12/2014, 10:38:15 AM] Remy: And Wikipedia is apparently not helping many white people with understanding Sikhism
[30/12/2014, 10:38:19 AM] live:riotarms: Arseholes
[30/12/2014, 10:39:25 AM] SF: DmC is the best DMC fight me
[30/12/2014, 10:39:39 AM] live:riotarms: No, you're right
[30/12/2014, 10:39:50 AM] live:riotarms: I'm really excited for the ps4 edition
[30/12/2014, 10:39:50 AM] Tesseract: http://theinternetaccordingtokori.tumblr.com/post/106563012663/sjwilluminati-lol-gamergate-lol-lol-for loooooooooooooooooooool
[30/12/2014, 10:39:55 AM] SF: Wow I truly have found my people.
[30/12/2014, 10:40:20 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahaha
[30/12/2014, 10:40:24 AM] Athena Hollow: they mad, tess.
[30/12/2014, 10:40:25 AM] SF: It was awful how they already had it out for that game, then that ONE dev off-hand used "gay" in the internet slang sense that one time.
[30/12/2014, 10:40:33 AM] SF: And they dogpiled it like THIS IS A HOMOPHOBIC GAME BOYCOTT
[30/12/2014, 10:40:37 AM] SF: And it was so disingenuous.
[30/12/2014, 10:40:48 AM] SF: I mean, yeah, you shouldn't do that, but it was clearly a fulcrum.
[30/12/2014, 10:41:02 AM] live:riotarms: I think he said he wishes he had made Dante gay, right?
[30/12/2014, 10:41:19 AM] SF: Oh did he? The version I heard was he said the old version was "gay".
[30/12/2014, 10:41:51 AM] SF: And he meant it in the context of "It was a dumb weeaboo character design without depth", but I only heard it like 5th hand so I wouldn't be surprised if the internet twisted it.
[30/12/2014, 10:42:22 AM] live:riotarms: http://gaygamer.net/2012/06/devil_may_cry_creator_declares.html
[30/12/2014, 10:42:24 AM] SF: I also want to mention that Bob Barbas fight was one of the sexiest boss designs in gaming.
[30/12/2014, 10:42:48 AM] Veerender Jubbal: They get nothing right. They call it a hat.
[30/12/2014, 10:42:49 AM] SF: Oh wow so even that one criticism was homophobia twisted against them. Amazing.
[30/12/2014, 10:42:52 AM] Veerender Jubbal: So they can fuck off.
[30/12/2014, 10:43:00 AM] SF: I'm going to love that game even more to piss them off now.
[30/12/2014, 10:43:06 AM] live:riotarms: Well OG Dante is just the designer's I'd made flesh
[30/12/2014, 10:43:10 AM] Athena Hollow: actual SJWs lol
[30/12/2014, 10:43:12 AM] live:riotarms: Id
[30/12/2014, 10:43:16 AM] SF: Like Sol Badguy hahaha
[30/12/2014, 10:43:27 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Also, super nice to meet you, Knife. I am Veerender.
[30/12/2014, 10:43:33 AM] SF: I mean much love for DMC3 don't get me wrong, but, that type of game is a dinosaur now.
[30/12/2014, 10:43:37 AM] live:riotarms: So he sits in a messy bedroom and eats pizza all day
[30/12/2014, 10:43:40 AM] Athena Hollow: Athena Hollow hugs Veerender
[30/12/2014, 10:43:46 AM] live:riotarms: Hey man! You tweet good
[30/12/2014, 10:43:57 AM] Veerender Jubbal: hugs back
[30/12/2014, 10:44:07 AM] live:riotarms: DMC3 has bad level design
[30/12/2014, 10:44:09 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Hahahaha! You follow me? What is your account?
[30/12/2014, 10:44:22 AM] Remy: You can flirt with Veerender all you like but ultimately I saw him first and his heart is mine
[30/12/2014, 10:44:32 AM] SF: Yeah crisscrossing that clocktower was awful.
[30/12/2014, 10:44:35 AM] live:riotarms: Actually I don't but let me rectify that right away
[30/12/2014, 10:44:37 AM] Remy: I have the unicorns to sacrifice if we need to get medieval with this shit, too
[30/12/2014, 10:44:52 AM] SF: I fail to see how DmC's combat was "dumbed down" beyond not requiring stupid mashy inputs either.
[30/12/2014, 10:44:54 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh yeah, so back to introductions mode...
[30/12/2014, 10:45:16 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: despite nothing of any real consequence being said in here, not a cool thing to go talk publicly about...
[30/12/2014, 10:45:23 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: also, this is a thing: https://trello.com/b/Hd6pDBF6/hall-of-chucklefucks
[30/12/2014, 10:45:25 AM] Remy: So are you saying they revamped DmC's control scheme so it's not such a button masher anymore?
[30/12/2014, 10:45:33 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Me, flirting: https://twitter.com/Veeren_Jubbal/status/548908211089448960
[30/12/2014, 10:45:39 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: it works more like Bayonetta I think?
[30/12/2014, 10:45:51 AM] SF: Even less mashy than Bayonetta.
[30/12/2014, 10:45:54 AM] Remy: swoons
[30/12/2014, 10:46:09 AM] SF: DmC is actually extremely playable on mouse and keyboard.
[30/12/2014, 10:46:25 AM] Remy: My knuckles can't handle gaming on a keyboard and mouse
[30/12/2014, 10:46:29 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Bayonetta really does have one of the more intuitive control schemes out there though
[30/12/2014, 10:46:30 AM] SF: And I'm a combo fiend, I'm not talking about doing it casually.
[30/12/2014, 10:46:33 AM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, the last thing we want to do is to let these shit stains know that we actually talk as a group.
[30/12/2014, 10:46:49 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Here's the do stuff with your hands button, here's the do stuff with your feet button
[30/12/2014, 10:46:53 AM] SF: Bayonetta and DmC are 2 of my top 10 games of forever though.
[30/12/2014, 10:46:53 AM] Athena Hollow: even if most of this chat is just random chat to take our minds off of stuff, and laugh at ggers.
[30/12/2014, 10:46:58 AM] live:riotarms: DmC doesn't need lock on which is great
[30/12/2014, 10:47:04 AM] live:riotarms: Oh yeah of course
[30/12/2014, 10:47:05 AM] SF: YES I love no lock on.
[30/12/2014, 10:47:20 AM] SF: The parry system is brilliant too. I've never had another attack to parry system work so well.
[30/12/2014, 10:47:26 AM] Remy: I will always <3 turn-based
[30/12/2014, 10:47:28 AM] SF: They got the timing perfect so it's not full of false positives.
[30/12/2014, 10:47:28 AM] live:riotarms: The definitive will have lock as an option which is fine
[30/12/2014, 10:47:30 AM] Athena Hollow: nevermind most of them spend time in skype chats together, they'd still hold it all against us LOL
[30/12/2014, 10:47:42 AM] SF: Are they releasing definitive as PC DLC?
[30/12/2014, 10:47:46 AM] live:riotarms: Oh yeah lots of visual cues
[30/12/2014, 10:47:50 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... my brain has officially been too poisoned by Kamen Rider exposure to read "lock on" in a normal fashion.
[30/12/2014, 10:47:53 AM] Remy: Give me a situational overview and a menu of options over a selection of combo moves any day
[30/12/2014, 10:48:00 AM] live:riotarms: I don't think so sadly but there are mods
[30/12/2014, 10:48:24 AM] live:riotarms: That was a good year for brawlers, what with MGR:R
[30/12/2014, 10:48:28 AM] SF: I'll just have to deal with my 1440p graphics at 110Hz.
[30/12/2014, 10:48:31 AM] Remy: I so badly want to make a spiritual successor to Pokemon
[30/12/2014, 10:48:35 AM] SF: Revengeance I was decidedly not a fan of.
[30/12/2014, 10:48:51 AM] live:riotarms: I got hooked on blade mode
[30/12/2014, 10:48:54 AM] SF: Bad graphics, bad port, bad controls, bad plot, bad acting, bad gameplay.
[30/12/2014, 10:49:14 AM] live:riotarms: And then how it turns into a crazy parody of Ron Paul at the end
[30/12/2014, 10:49:20 AM] SF: Specifically I felt the bad bad acting outweighed the good bad acting.
[30/12/2014, 10:49:26 AM] SF: I wish the whole game was like the ending hahaha.
[30/12/2014, 10:49:36 AM] SF: But it seemed like it actually took itself seriously much of the time.
[30/12/2014, 10:49:41 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I really am just the WORST Platinum superfan
[30/12/2014, 10:49:58 AM] live:riotarms: The graphics and bad acting are sort of Dreamcastian
[30/12/2014, 10:50:11 AM] live:riotarms: They recall that era of games for me
[30/12/2014, 10:50:28 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: They're my favorite dev with the possible exception of Nintendo, and yet so many of their games I still haven't had the chance to pick up.
[30/12/2014, 10:51:12 AM] live:riotarms: For me the fact that MGR goes insane as soon as you fight your rival seems to indicate it's one dry joke
[30/12/2014, 10:51:31 AM] live:riotarms: Also the soundtrack
[30/12/2014, 10:52:06 AM] live:riotarms: SGG: have you played evil within
[30/12/2014, 10:52:22 AM] live:riotarms: I was badly let down by that game :(
[30/12/2014, 10:52:54 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I have not, and I hear very mixed things
[30/12/2014, 10:53:41 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: it's honestly been Unfortunately Long since I've had the chance to pick up a new game beyond humble bundles and EO games
[30/12/2014, 10:53:43 AM] live:riotarms: Just play RE4 again basically
[30/12/2014, 10:54:21 AM] live:riotarms: It's got a sludge framerate and the stages are badly done Mikami greatest hits
[30/12/2014, 10:55:36 AM] live:riotarms: You even stare through binoculars at a spooky bonfire
[30/12/2014, 10:56:34 AM] SF: Yeah but Dreamcast games look great at high res.
[30/12/2014, 10:57:05 AM] live:riotarms: I just got so hooked on the cutting mechanic
[30/12/2014, 10:57:36 AM] SF: I was so excited for that and so saddened to find out the high level way to use it is to AVOID cutting people up too much.
[30/12/2014, 10:57:53 AM] SF: Like just interrupt early/do one slice to any location.
[30/12/2014, 10:58:40 AM] SF: Anyway sorry I'm being "that guy" when someone else likes something.
[30/12/2014, 10:58:51 AM] live:riotarms: Nah, it's cool
[30/12/2014, 10:58:54 AM] Athena Hollow: https://archive.today/5bkR3
[30/12/2014, 10:59:00 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHAHAHAHAH /dies/
[30/12/2014, 10:59:13 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/SJWIlluminati/status/549761119632752640
[30/12/2014, 10:59:18 AM] live:riotarms: You like DmC so you're good people
[30/12/2014, 10:59:21 AM] Athena Hollow: dat. projection.
[30/12/2014, 10:59:23 AM] SF: Chris you would have won that debate if you were only more masculine.
[30/12/2014, 10:59:35 AM] SF: Masculine like a professional NFL player with a beard.
[30/12/2014, 10:59:43 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 11:00:14 AM] Remy: oh, poor Mike
[30/12/2014, 11:00:21 AM] live:riotarms: Mike is beyond parody, really
[30/12/2014, 11:00:37 AM] Tesseract: does losing the debate make him a beta
[30/12/2014, 11:00:44 AM] Athena Hollow: HAH YES
[30/12/2014, 11:00:47 AM] Athena Hollow: YES IT DOES
[30/12/2014, 11:00:51 AM] Athena Hollow: he lost a debate to a white knight.
[30/12/2014, 11:00:54 AM] Athena Hollow: ergo - epic beta.
[30/12/2014, 11:01:00 AM] live:riotarms: Debate cluck
[30/12/2014, 11:01:20 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Well he also admitted to white knighting for Eron
[30/12/2014, 11:01:35 AM] live:riotarms: Man Chris set that trap up so well
[30/12/2014, 11:01:38 AM] David Gallant: Looking at him calling Chris brainwashed, sad, pathetic...
[30/12/2014, 11:01:47 AM] SF: https://twitter.com/Goons_TXT/status/549761853405298688 This is SomethingAwful which they claim is an SJW hive.
[30/12/2014, 11:02:07 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 11:02:10 AM] live:riotarms: These fuckers use high school debate tactics as best praxis then when someone actually USES those skills properly
[30/12/2014, 11:02:18 AM] Athena Hollow: because SA thinks their trolling tactics are pathetic.
[30/12/2014, 11:02:30 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: You know, I still say watching Something Awful grow up over the years is one of the most magical things to ever happen on the internet
[30/12/2014, 11:02:39 AM] Athena Hollow: That's the big reason why SA hates GG. That and they tried to use SA to springboard from. Which is a big no no.
[30/12/2014, 11:03:09 AM] Tesseract: SA hates everything
[30/12/2014, 11:03:20 AM] Tesseract: especially SA
[30/12/2014, 11:03:21 AM] live:riotarms: Yeah a ton of anti-GG people are reformed trolls
[30/12/2014, 11:03:31 AM] Athena Hollow: lol they really do.
[30/12/2014, 11:03:49 AM] Athena Hollow: Hell a ton of anti-gg are still existing trolls, they just can't stand how pathetic they are XD
[30/12/2014, 11:04:00 AM] Tesseract: right as this was beginning I posted some gg shit in PYF and a gatorgoon tried to defend it and got owned
[30/12/2014, 11:04:05 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I remember a few years ago there was this whole thing about someone bringing this group of Mermaid LARPers to SA's attention and their reaction was to... ask a major organizer over for a nice pleasant chat about her subculture.
[30/12/2014, 11:04:21 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahaha
[30/12/2014, 11:04:21 AM] live:riotarms: What the non-sociopathic gaters don't realise is when they snap out of this they'll feel bad for years
[30/12/2014, 11:04:30 AM] David Gallant: Wow, that's refreshing.
[30/12/2014, 11:04:46 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: and I was just staring slackjawed, wondering how this could possibly be the same site that used to just single out furries to harass and such
[30/12/2014, 11:04:46 AM] live:riotarms: SGG, see also post Gavin McInnes Vice
[30/12/2014, 11:04:46 AM] Athena Hollow: SA is weird like that sometimes.
[30/12/2014, 11:05:05 AM] Athena Hollow: I think SA couldn't care less about denigrating you unless you've acted like a smug asshole.
[30/12/2014, 11:05:08 AM] Athena Hollow: Then they care.
[30/12/2014, 11:05:10 AM] live:riotarms: Vice has really turned around politically
[30/12/2014, 11:05:13 AM] Athena Hollow: Yeah.
[30/12/2014, 11:05:15 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: These days it's just, like, a bunch of amateur sci-fi authors and LPs
[30/12/2014, 11:05:16 AM] Athena Hollow: That's true.
[30/12/2014, 11:05:19 AM] Tesseract: a lot of SA is total shit though, it depends on the board
[30/12/2014, 11:05:32 AM] Tesseract: GBS is the biggest cesspool
[30/12/2014, 11:05:38 AM] live:riotarms: If you have an IQ of 155 don't tell SA
[30/12/2014, 11:05:38 AM] Athena Hollow: But the shit parts are typically too fucking lazy to do anything but shitpost their own board LOL
[30/12/2014, 11:05:41 AM] Athena Hollow: typically, not always.
[30/12/2014, 11:05:43 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Well, I'm talking front page stuff, don't have access to the forums
[30/12/2014, 11:06:08 AM] live:riotarms: I came up through portal of evil which was kind of a mom and pop SA
[30/12/2014, 11:06:11 AM] Tesseract: I didn't think many people cared about the front page
[30/12/2014, 11:06:20 AM] Tesseract: I rarely remember it exists
[30/12/2014, 11:06:33 AM] live:riotarms: One of the owners quietly killed it after valve hired him
[30/12/2014, 11:06:38 AM] Athena Hollow: I love the "WHO PAYS $10 FOR A FORUM!" people... really tells ya who probably pirates more than pays for games. Like, I personally wouldn't pay $10 for a forum, but I don't lambast people who do LOL
[30/12/2014, 11:06:42 AM] Tesseract: SA is the forums as far as the internet is concerned
[30/12/2014, 11:06:53 AM] Tesseract: no don't pay 10 bucks for a forum
[30/12/2014, 11:06:57 AM] Tesseract: I did and I'm an idiot
[30/12/2014, 11:07:06 AM] live:riotarms: So people couldn't dig up his posts about Mexicans or how Sweden doesn't make worthwhile art
[30/12/2014, 11:07:15 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 11:07:20 AM] live:riotarms: Then he wrote left 4 dead
[30/12/2014, 11:07:54 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/ChrisWarcraft/status/549763475304493056 lol
[30/12/2014, 11:07:56 AM] live:riotarms: I'm not surprised those fuckers gave hatred special treatment
[30/12/2014, 11:09:10 AM] Athena Hollow: For a ton of reasons.
[30/12/2014, 11:10:05 AM] live:riotarms: Be cool if people had the spine to not use Steam for that
[30/12/2014, 11:10:18 AM] live:riotarms: But fuck, they can't even quit PAX
[30/12/2014, 11:10:25 AM] Remy: Mike C is a total keyboard warrior
[30/12/2014, 11:11:08 AM] Athena Hollow: My issue w/ Hatred is less the shitty horrible game, and more the community that sprung up around it.
[30/12/2014, 11:11:09 AM] live:riotarms: BTW I bet PA wish they were allowed to talk about GG so bad but you know their manager won't let them
[30/12/2014, 11:11:24 AM] Athena Hollow: I couldn't care less about Murder Simulator 2015... but these fuckwads asking for Anita & CHILD dlc? Gross.
[30/12/2014, 11:11:36 AM] Athena Hollow: I wish steam would fucking ban ass those assholes.
[30/12/2014, 11:11:48 AM] live:riotarms: Oh christ
[30/12/2014, 11:11:57 AM] live:riotarms: Hatred steam workshop
[30/12/2014, 11:11:59 AM] Athena Hollow: Probably a good idea. They have a habit of sticking their feet in their mouths.
[30/12/2014, 11:12:24 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: the thing that blows my mind about Hatred is, have you seen it?
[30/12/2014, 11:12:34 AM] Athena Hollow: And don't get me wrong, I think PA has come a long way, maturity wise, but they are terrible at expressing it without pissing everyone off LOL
[30/12/2014, 11:12:54 AM] Athena Hollow: I saw a trailer for it.
[30/12/2014, 11:13:29 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: for all they talk it up as "2 edgy 4 u!" it has all the visceral violence of... Fallout 1
[30/12/2014, 11:13:34 AM] live:riotarms: Hatred (The) - A Wiseau Reveal: http://youtu.be/pYm2Mb0CSaw
[30/12/2014, 11:13:35 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 11:13:58 AM] Remy: hey, people
[30/12/2014, 11:14:00 AM] Athena Hollow: So, is anyone else unsurprised they revealed they were working on this game, in mid october, when gg was getting international news play?
[30/12/2014, 11:14:03 AM] Peter Coffin: aloha
[30/12/2014, 11:14:06 AM] Remy: If I wanted to make a Pokemon-style game, what engine would I use?
[30/12/2014, 11:14:15 AM] Athena Hollow: I mean, I know it sounds kind of 'red line mspaint' but just seems unsurprising.
[30/12/2014, 11:14:20 AM] Athena Hollow: Unity, maybe?
[30/12/2014, 11:14:41 AM] Athena Hollow: Or RPG maker MIGHT be able to handle that. Dunno. Haven't touched it since the early days.
[30/12/2014, 11:14:56 AM] Remy: Fuck I need to just get rich and hire a developer
[30/12/2014, 11:15:02 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 11:15:04 AM] live:riotarms: A guy I know swears by actionscript
[30/12/2014, 11:15:06 AM] Athena Hollow: you and me both sir.
[30/12/2014, 11:15:17 AM] live:riotarms: He does a lot of object orientated work in it
[30/12/2014, 11:15:22 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: hmm
[30/12/2014, 11:15:28 AM] Athena Hollow: shudders actionscript is a tool of the devil.
[30/12/2014, 11:15:35 AM] live:riotarms: This year I need to stick to my Mario Land clond
[30/12/2014, 11:15:39 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: going back to listen to the first part of this Kluwe vs. Juicy talk
[30/12/2014, 11:15:43 AM] Remy: Even the simple questions like "Okay this is how you script a character's name" I get stuck at like "Okay but I need them to be able to input the name" and that's like two weeks of research and even then I don't understand it. I feel fucking hopeless this is killing me
[30/12/2014, 11:16:03 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: point of order- 8chan wasn't created for the benefit of hosting GG, and then came to also host child porn
[30/12/2014, 11:16:05 AM] Remy: I don't think I can make games
[30/12/2014, 11:16:17 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: 8chan was created to host child porn, and later came to also host GG
[30/12/2014, 11:16:20 AM] Athena Hollow: Yup.
[30/12/2014, 11:16:37 AM] Athena Hollow: Because Brennan thought "moot" was getting too PC.
[30/12/2014, 11:16:59 AM] Peter Coffin: fuck brennan, I absolutely disdain this shit
[30/12/2014, 11:17:12 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: it was formed in October of 2013, because 4chan didn't allow for "free speech" (read: CP)
[30/12/2014, 11:17:24 AM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, his "if I can't allow drawn kiddie porn, I can't compete!" bullshit is sickening.
[30/12/2014, 11:17:42 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: did he specifically say "drawn" there?
[30/12/2014, 11:17:43 AM] Athena Hollow: Considering the people drawn to that are gasp usually pedophiles!
[30/12/2014, 11:17:45 AM] Remy: help they're freezing mah peaches
[30/12/2014, 11:17:48 AM] Athena Hollow: lolli/shota = drawn.
[30/12/2014, 11:18:04 AM] Athena Hollow: I believe at least.
[30/12/2014, 11:18:07 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Not in this context.
[30/12/2014, 11:18:19 AM] Athena Hollow: Oh I was talking about his specific twitter post about it.
[30/12/2014, 11:18:37 AM] Athena Hollow: He said that he was being "blackmailed" to stop hosting lolli & shota.
[30/12/2014, 11:18:42 AM] Athena Hollow: Except... that's NOT what it was about at all.
[30/12/2014, 11:18:59 AM] Athena Hollow: They've (read: brennan and gg) tried to make it all about that shit, but that's not the fucking problem.
[30/12/2014, 11:19:02 AM] Athena Hollow: (though it is gross)
[30/12/2014, 11:19:25 AM] Remy: Also, it's really hard to get offended at blackmail when you also have CP in play
[30/12/2014, 11:19:33 AM] Remy: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[30/12/2014, 11:20:27 AM] Remy: But at the end of the day I dunno what to do from here. It's ridiculous to assume he's got the only chan out there hosting CP
[30/12/2014, 11:20:41 AM] Remy: I could probably throw a rock into the internet and hit at least three
[30/12/2014, 11:21:32 AM] Athena Hollow: oh absolutely. one at a time :)
[30/12/2014, 11:22:04 AM] Remy: Aside from convincing American politics to unite on the sole issue of proposing a multi-national embargo on nations with histories of lax enforcement and harboring websites and traffickers
[30/12/2014, 11:22:12 AM] Ian Cheong: I'm back everyone
[30/12/2014, 11:22:14 AM] Ian Cheong: anything happen while I was gone?
[30/12/2014, 11:22:26 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: 8chan's servers are in New York.
[30/12/2014, 11:22:27 AM] Remy: From there we could def get the UK involved, they have been on a pedo hunt for a couple of years now in Parliament
[30/12/2014, 11:22:35 AM] live:riotarms: Is there any indication brennan is a paedophile beyond enabling paedophiles
[30/12/2014, 11:22:47 AM] Remy: Um...
[30/12/2014, 11:22:48 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: one moment...
[30/12/2014, 11:22:49 AM] Athena Hollow: welllllllllllllllll
[30/12/2014, 11:22:51 AM] Ian Cheong: well
[30/12/2014, 11:22:54 AM] Remy: SGG has a photo for you
[30/12/2014, 11:22:58 AM] Remy: But you can't un-see it
[30/12/2014, 11:23:00 AM] Athena Hollow: he did move to a country that kind of specialises in that gross shit.
[30/12/2014, 11:23:12 AM] Remy: And no, we don't have "*proof*"
[30/12/2014, 11:23:24 AM] Remy: But we have some dots you can connect if you want
[30/12/2014, 11:23:40 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: http://i.imgur.com/dxN8BVz.jpg
[30/12/2014, 11:23:57 AM] Ian Cheong: I imagine he's getting a lapdance fro... oh
[30/12/2014, 11:24:00 AM] Athena Hollow: like, actual dots... not 'needs 20 gallons of red paint' dots.
[30/12/2014, 11:24:02 AM] Ian Cheong: i see that picture now
[30/12/2014, 11:24:06 AM] Ian Cheong: wow he's gross
[30/12/2014, 11:24:24 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Good evening
[30/12/2014, 11:24:33 AM] David Gallant: Jesus I should have read the context before clicking that pic.
[30/12/2014, 11:24:39 AM] Ian Cheong: Hard to tell how many of those girls are underage
[30/12/2014, 11:24:41 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: yes
[30/12/2014, 11:24:42 AM] Remy: I said you can't un-see it
[30/12/2014, 11:24:47 AM] Ian Cheong: fuckin eh christ
[30/12/2014, 11:24:48 AM] David Gallant: I guess I see why he's in the Phillipines.
[30/12/2014, 11:25:08 AM] Remy: So yeah we don't have proof per se, but there are some dots for you to connect if you want
[30/12/2014, 11:25:14 AM] live:riotarms: He's a real piece of work, that guy
[30/12/2014, 11:25:20 AM] Ian Cheong: getting lapdances from teenagers
[30/12/2014, 11:25:34 AM] live:riotarms: And of course, a total shield for gg
[30/12/2014, 11:25:35 AM] Remy: They can keep him
[30/12/2014, 11:25:36 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: He also used to own wizardchan, apparently
[30/12/2014, 11:25:52 AM] David Gallant: That would explain a lot, SGG
[30/12/2014, 11:25:53 AM] live:riotarms: What an empire
[30/12/2014, 11:26:01 AM] Peter Coffin: oh my god this debate is amazing
[30/12/2014, 11:26:05 AM] Remy: XD
[30/12/2014, 11:26:12 AM] Peter Coffin: I’m not even that far in
[30/12/2014, 11:26:14 AM] Remy: You should check out Mike C's tweets afterwards
[30/12/2014, 11:26:20 AM] Remy: With his tail tucked all the way in
[30/12/2014, 11:26:27 AM] Remy: "I feel sorry for that guy, I'm obviously the real winner"
[30/12/2014, 11:26:32 AM] Remy: freezing' his peaches
[30/12/2014, 11:26:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): So, it seems that GGers are upset at Mike. Not for "losing" the debate. But for getting the history of GG wrong
[30/12/2014, 11:26:57 AM] Peter Coffin: how did he get it wrong
[30/12/2014, 11:27:29 AM] Remy: GGers were always going to be mad at Mike. They were going to harass everyone involved
[30/12/2014, 11:27:35 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: honestly though, in the court of public opinion, I'm PRETTY sure "running a child porn site" is sufficient evidence that one is into child porn
[30/12/2014, 11:27:39 AM] Remy: Chris just knew that going in disco
[30/12/2014, 11:27:44 AM] Remy: (dance)
[30/12/2014, 11:27:52 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I love Chris.
[30/12/2014, 11:27:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Peter, I don't know. but that is what I'm seeing
[30/12/2014, 11:28:02 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: and in an actual court, who cares because you're running a child porn site and you're going to be locked up for that already
[30/12/2014, 11:28:09 AM] Remy: ^
[30/12/2014, 11:29:27 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: which really is just, the bare minimum of what I want to see happen on the legal front
[30/12/2014, 11:29:28 AM] live:riotarms: If 8chan vanished where would GG head next?
[30/12/2014, 11:29:35 AM] Tesseract: masterchan
[30/12/2014, 11:29:46 AM] live:riotarms: Might be good to have that step planned out
[30/12/2014, 11:29:52 AM] Tesseract: that's where they were going to go before 8chan swooped in and stole their traffic
[30/12/2014, 11:29:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOLOL: https://twitter.com/GI_Styles_SES/status/549766105170862082
[30/12/2014, 11:29:54 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I want to say 72chan or somesuch?
[30/12/2014, 11:30:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I've seen GGers talking about Masterchan or Scarechan?
[30/12/2014, 11:30:13 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: there's a planning thread about it on one of their slower boards
[30/12/2014, 11:30:50 AM] Tesseract: just go to exponentially higher chans
[30/12/2014, 11:30:51 AM] Tesseract: 16chan
[30/12/2014, 11:30:54 AM] Tesseract: 32chan
[30/12/2014, 11:30:56 AM] Tesseract: 64chan
[30/12/2014, 11:31:06 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): 128chan
[30/12/2014, 11:31:12 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): 256chan
[30/12/2014, 11:31:33 AM] Remy: omg
[30/12/2014, 11:31:34 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: well no after 64 you just go on about how many Gamecubes you're taping together.
[30/12/2014, 11:31:39 AM] Remy: When I figure out how to make my pokemon clone
[30/12/2014, 11:31:43 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 11:31:47 AM] Remy: The ultimate healing item will be a frozen peach
[30/12/2014, 11:31:50 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Mike is so white.
[30/12/2014, 11:31:54 AM] Tesseract: 512 1024 2048 4096 8192 16384 32768 65536 131072 262144
[30/12/2014, 11:32:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): -1chan
[30/12/2014, 11:32:02 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Like, whoa.
[30/12/2014, 11:32:13 AM] Remy: whoa
[30/12/2014, 11:32:17 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Am almost twenty minutes in.
[30/12/2014, 11:32:23 AM] Peter Coffin: I’m 18 mins in
[30/12/2014, 11:32:24 AM] Remy: That doesn't exist Izzy it's just in your imagination
[30/12/2014, 11:32:28 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[30/12/2014, 11:32:29 AM] Ian Cheong: im 17 minutes in
[30/12/2014, 11:32:32 AM] Remy: That's just some shit mathematicians use to confuse you
[30/12/2014, 11:32:36 AM] Veerender Jubbal: 17, too!
[30/12/2014, 11:32:55 AM] Peter Coffin: my god mike is so fucking stupid
[30/12/2014, 11:32:59 AM] live:riotarms: My name's Mike and I'm here to say/I lift weights in a Morannis way
[30/12/2014, 11:33:09 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Speaking of imaginary, have you ever heard of "tulpas"? Some *chan thing where you create vivid imaginary friends or something
[30/12/2014, 11:33:13 AM] Ian Cheong: chris is crushing him
[30/12/2014, 11:33:26 AM] Peter Coffin: why are thjws on 8chan in the first place?
[30/12/2014, 11:33:46 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Chris bodied.
[30/12/2014, 11:33:53 AM] live:riotarms: Tulpas are a Buddist thing I think
[30/12/2014, 11:34:51 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ah
[30/12/2014, 11:34:52 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I was away for the whole child pornography stuff due to vitriol, and wow.
[30/12/2014, 11:35:02 AM] Peter Coffin: yeah
[30/12/2014, 11:35:02 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I cannot beleive that happened, while I was gone.
[30/12/2014, 11:35:04 AM] Peter Coffin: exactly
[30/12/2014, 11:35:29 AM] Peter Coffin: I’ve been trying to come up with a way to talk about how free speech doesn’t mean “say and do anything you want all the fucking time"
[30/12/2014, 11:35:50 AM] live:riotarms: The fact they just tried to use CHILD ABUSE to win an arguement
[30/12/2014, 11:36:09 AM] Peter Coffin: this is just the extreme of what I have been wanting to make
[30/12/2014, 11:36:16 AM] Peter Coffin: and I am so broadsided by it I don’t know what to do
[30/12/2014, 11:36:17 AM] live:riotarms: Free speech is inherently paradoxical because speech can harm and opress
[30/12/2014, 11:36:29 AM] Peter Coffin: free speech ends at arms length
[30/12/2014, 11:36:42 AM] live:riotarms: IE if someone calls me a spastic in public, which has happened before
[30/12/2014, 11:37:04 AM] live:riotarms: And I go home feeling horrible, that's a violation of MY freedom
[30/12/2014, 11:37:25 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: the more traditional example is shouting fire in a crowded theater
[30/12/2014, 11:37:27 AM] live:riotarms: Slurs are junk speech, not worth protecting
[30/12/2014, 11:37:36 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: but really, GG does both
[30/12/2014, 11:37:53 AM] Athena Hollow: Personally I still can't get over that deliberately lying about someone isn't illegal unless it does monetary damages.
[30/12/2014, 11:38:01 AM] Athena Hollow: at least in the States.
[30/12/2014, 11:38:17 AM] Athena Hollow: I mean, come the fuck on! That is without a doubt a pure manipulation of 'free speech'
[30/12/2014, 11:38:22 AM] live:riotarms: Is rogue still on twitter?
[30/12/2014, 11:38:26 AM] Athena Hollow: i believe so.
[30/12/2014, 11:38:27 AM] Tesseract: somehow yes
[30/12/2014, 11:38:33 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AHAHA, GGers are getting tired of Ralph's shit: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549771323883286528
[30/12/2014, 11:38:40 AM] live:riotarms: Athena I reported milo to the cops over here
[30/12/2014, 11:38:46 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: he's probably been banned and started a new account 2 or 3 times today
[30/12/2014, 11:38:50 AM] Athena Hollow: Izzy: gawd about time
[30/12/2014, 11:39:00 AM] Tesseract: try nine or so
[30/12/2014, 11:39:06 AM] Tesseract: oh today
[30/12/2014, 11:39:12 AM] Athena Hollow: Milo's a right shit.
[30/12/2014, 11:39:12 AM] live:riotarms: Time to see what Izels is up to
[30/12/2014, 11:39:13 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: and yeah, that was honestly one of the main reasons I wanted you dragged in here. I recall you were trying to build a legal case against him
[30/12/2014, 11:39:14 AM] Tesseract: nope roguestar has been up for a while
[30/12/2014, 11:39:25 AM] Tesseract: italics not intended
[30/12/2014, 11:39:34 AM] live:riotarms: Ah, Milo and the law
[30/12/2014, 11:39:36 AM] Athena Hollow: https://archive.today/hubd8
[30/12/2014, 11:39:39 AM] Athena Hollow: still my fave.
[30/12/2014, 11:40:05 AM] Athena Hollow: So... yeah... if Milo tries evading the UK's speech laws to come to the US, it won't happen heh.
[30/12/2014, 11:40:21 AM] live:riotarms: I think there's a case that he should be disqualified from being a director
[30/12/2014, 11:40:34 AM] Athena Hollow: they do NOT fuck around w/ people joking about marriage green cards.
[30/12/2014, 11:40:46 AM] live:riotarms: He tanked Sentinel Media and now he has Caligula LLC
[30/12/2014, 11:41:13 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Wow. He called out Dan?
[30/12/2014, 11:41:15 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: hmm
[30/12/2014, 11:41:24 AM] Veerender Jubbal: What a scrub.
[30/12/2014, 11:41:31 AM] live:riotarms: Makes sense Milo would want to get to the states
[30/12/2014, 11:41:33 AM] Athena Hollow: JuiceBro is the worst lawyer ever.
[30/12/2014, 11:41:40 AM] live:riotarms: His career here is scorched earth
[30/12/2014, 11:41:58 AM] live:riotarms: And he's too toxic to pull his usual con jobs
[30/12/2014, 11:41:58 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Oh, my fucking God, Chris.
[30/12/2014, 11:42:00 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Did Gater tears.
[30/12/2014, 11:42:05 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 11:42:08 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Where the fuck is, Chris?
[30/12/2014, 11:42:12 AM] Peter Coffin: NICE
[30/12/2014, 11:42:12 AM] live:riotarms: The cup, right?
[30/12/2014, 11:42:19 AM] Peter Coffin: oh fucking chris
[30/12/2014, 11:42:23 AM] Peter Coffin: so good
[30/12/2014, 11:42:24 AM] Ian Cheong: intermission
[30/12/2014, 11:42:26 AM] Ian Cheong: this is brought to you by GATOR TEARS
[30/12/2014, 11:42:30 AM] Ian Cheong: AHAHAHAAHAHAHA
[30/12/2014, 11:42:37 AM] Ian Cheong: this is GOLD
[30/12/2014, 11:42:48 AM] Peter Coffin: he’s just RUINING JB
[30/12/2014, 11:42:53 AM] live:riotarms: So regarding Milo what people need to do is this, if he incites harassment you can use a form to report it
[30/12/2014, 11:42:56 AM] Peter Coffin: how is JB a lawyer
[30/12/2014, 11:43:03 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: a friend of mine was once involved in an Incident trying to move to the U.S. after getting married, with weird child porn stuff involved (nothing involving him, someone stole a credit card). The process of applying for citizenship Did Not Go Well.
[30/12/2014, 11:43:08 AM] Athena Hollow: Oh good to know!
[30/12/2014, 11:43:27 AM] Athena Hollow: Yea I know that the law says even if you're writing for a website not based in the UK, that if you're IN the UK you're liable for it.
[30/12/2014, 11:43:39 AM] live:riotarms: http://www.report-it.org.uk/bullying_and_harassment
[30/12/2014, 11:43:52 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: he isn't a TRIAL lawyer, he just uses his law degree to help dox people and threaten them away from taking him to court
[30/12/2014, 11:43:53 AM] live:riotarms: Everyone share and save that link
[30/12/2014, 11:43:59 AM] Athena Hollow: bookmarked.
[30/12/2014, 11:44:07 AM] Athena Hollow: And he's "taking time" off of being a lawyer.
[30/12/2014, 11:44:24 AM] Athena Hollow: Nevermind he's never BEEN a lawyer.
[30/12/2014, 11:44:31 AM] Athena Hollow: He just has a law degree. WHOOPDIEDOO
[30/12/2014, 11:44:41 AM] live:riotarms: If someone from GG in the UK acts up in a way that matches those definitions, report them
[30/12/2014, 11:44:48 AM] Peter Coffin: dan informed the authorities about these images did he now?
[30/12/2014, 11:44:49 AM] Peter Coffin: not?
[30/12/2014, 11:44:52 AM] Athena Hollow: he did.
[30/12/2014, 11:45:03 AM] Peter Coffin: mike is so god damn stupid
[30/12/2014, 11:45:34 AM] live:riotarms: I have some self care shit to deal with and Milo has me blocked but I bet there's a ton of ammo he hasn't deleted or that people screencapped
[30/12/2014, 11:47:10 AM] David Gallant: Oh gosh, Chris is a cutie
[30/12/2014, 11:47:16 AM] Ian Cheong: im in love.
[30/12/2014, 11:47:23 AM] Ian Cheong: he's so great.
[30/12/2014, 11:47:24 AM] Athena Hollow: isn't he though?
[30/12/2014, 11:47:28 AM] Ian Cheong: you hear that Chris? You're so great!
[30/12/2014, 11:47:28 AM] live:riotarms: If anyone knows of anyone who knows business law in the UK they could probably give advice on trying to have milo disqualified as a director too https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-limited-company
[30/12/2014, 11:47:31 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Right, David?!
[30/12/2014, 11:47:40 AM] Peter Coffin: HAHAHA
[30/12/2014, 11:47:45 AM] Peter Coffin: OH LOOK AT ME I’M SO OPPRESSED
[30/12/2014, 11:47:52 AM] Veerender Jubbal: For you folks: https://twitter.com/Veeren_Jubbal/status/549773266811097088
[30/12/2014, 11:47:55 AM] Peter Coffin: HE ACTUALLY SAID THAT IN A SARCASTIC, CONDESCENDING MANNER
[30/12/2014, 11:48:09 AM] live:riotarms: Milo is easy to find at companies house, except he has multiple director entries and is under two names
[30/12/2014, 11:48:36 AM] live:riotarms: Milo Hanrahan is the other one, his dad made him a director in his teens
[30/12/2014, 11:48:44 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
[30/12/2014, 11:48:50 AM] Athena Hollow: TALK ABOUT TRUST FUND KID.
[30/12/2014, 11:48:54 AM] Athena Hollow: love that shit he throws out.
[30/12/2014, 11:48:56 AM] Ian Cheong: he's super rich
[30/12/2014, 11:48:59 AM] Athena Hollow: yup.
[30/12/2014, 11:49:02 AM] Athena Hollow: because of daddy.
[30/12/2014, 11:49:10 AM] Athena Hollow: but TRUST FUND SJWS IN SANFRAN!
[30/12/2014, 11:49:20 AM] Ian Cheong: i crack up every time juicebro talks
[30/12/2014, 11:49:24 AM] Ian Cheong: he sounds like Charlie Day
[30/12/2014, 11:49:24 AM] live:riotarms: He tanked Sentinel Media hard enough that he could probably be disqualified
[30/12/2014, 11:49:41 AM] live:riotarms: Actually Milo's dad is a working class bouncer
[30/12/2014, 11:49:44 AM] Athena Hollow: LOLOL Ian: Like 20 other people have said that.
[30/12/2014, 11:49:52 AM] Peter Coffin: 8chan.co is a not for profit unlike 4chan. If this gets big I expect to apply for 501(c)(3) status and any excess money after staff, feature and server costs will be donated to other charitable causes like Wikileaks and the EFF.
[30/12/2014, 11:50:06 AM] live:riotarms: Ian: I described him as every always sunny character at once
[30/12/2014, 11:50:08 AM] Athena Hollow: No shit? I thought that I'd read daddy had some big biz & milo has money in th ebank because of that.
[30/12/2014, 11:50:22 AM] Athena Hollow: I mean, if it's not true, it's not true, but yeah, wouldnt be surprising hypocrisy from Milo.
[30/12/2014, 11:50:23 AM] live:riotarms: Milo lied about that yeah
[30/12/2014, 11:50:27 AM] Athena Hollow: ahhhh
[30/12/2014, 11:50:43 AM] live:riotarms: People were digging into him when he was outed for his Iron Cross fetish
[30/12/2014, 11:51:10 AM] Athena Hollow: Oh yeah, I read a big ol blog post about that from 2 years ago.
[30/12/2014, 11:51:15 AM] Athena Hollow: Peter: Is that a quote?
[30/12/2014, 11:51:25 AM] Peter Coffin: yes. http://www.patreon.com/hachi_the_cat?u=162165
[30/12/2014, 11:51:35 AM] live:riotarms: He published poetry as Milo Andreas Wagner but it's impossible to find (and reputed to be amazingly bad)
[30/12/2014, 11:51:48 AM] live:riotarms: That was his Nazi fetish alias
[30/12/2014, 11:51:53 AM] Athena Hollow: Because his site clearly violates 501c3 because of the required apolitical nature of 501c3
[30/12/2014, 11:51:55 AM] Peter Coffin: 1. he is in the philippenes because there is a high likelihood he could get arrested for hosting child porn
[30/12/2014, 11:52:02 AM] Veerender Jubbal: GamerGates' not alynch mob?!
[30/12/2014, 11:52:07 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Holy fuck.
[30/12/2014, 11:52:27 AM] Athena Hollow: mike's fucking blind & willfully disconnected from reality
[30/12/2014, 11:52:34 AM] live:riotarms: I hope patreon ban his ass for life
[30/12/2014, 11:52:36 AM] Athena Hollow: he said earlier he specifically doesn't pay attention to what people say & do
[30/12/2014, 11:52:41 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Fucking privilge.
[30/12/2014, 11:52:43 AM] Athena Hollow: They will.
[30/12/2014, 11:52:44 AM] Athena Hollow: AND
[30/12/2014, 11:52:47 AM] Peter Coffin: aye
[30/12/2014, 11:52:53 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Oh, my God.
[30/12/2014, 11:52:55 AM] Athena Hollow: I found another site he's using & they have a ticket open talking about adopting patreon like rules
[30/12/2014, 11:52:57 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 11:52:58 AM] live:riotarms: I think Mike is full of shit and he knows it
[30/12/2014, 11:53:07 AM] live:riotarms: Oh damn, got a link?
[30/12/2014, 11:53:23 AM] Athena Hollow: https://github.com/gratipay/inside.gratipay.com/issues/118
[30/12/2014, 11:53:31 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i called GG out for framing spacedad for sexual harassment. now i have a mob of them telling me i'm victim blaming xD
[30/12/2014, 11:53:33 AM] Peter Coffin: mike’s body language says he doesn’t believe his shit
[30/12/2014, 11:53:52 AM] Athena Hollow: my email to them is here: https://github.com/gratipay/inside.gratipay.com/issues/118#issuecomment-68231103 They posted it w/o my info thankfully.
[30/12/2014, 11:53:58 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL They are soooooo dumbbbbbbbbbb
[30/12/2014, 11:54:01 AM] Peter Coffin: so much of his argument is said with him shrugging
[30/12/2014, 11:54:03 AM] Athena Hollow: No one is blaming the fucking victim, you idiots.
[30/12/2014, 11:54:09 AM] Peter Coffin: look at his shoulders
[30/12/2014, 11:54:09 AM] Athena Hollow: We're saying the person in question didn't do it.
[30/12/2014, 11:54:16 AM] Athena Hollow: ffs they are so. fucking. dumb.
[30/12/2014, 11:54:53 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: wait 8chan has ads now?
[30/12/2014, 11:55:32 AM] live:riotarms: He kind of looks like a Muppet on steroids
[30/12/2014, 11:55:59 AM] David Gallant: Another example of GG trying to use "power words" to win an argument despite not understanding the words.
[30/12/2014, 11:56:50 AM] Remy: so apparently one of those applesauce pouch companies sold a batch that was super rotten/fermented? A kid is in the hospital and their mom posted a complaint on the product's website, but apparently their first move was to just delete the complaint from the site, so now she's blasting photos of brown goo all over Facebook
[30/12/2014, 11:57:22 AM] Remy: She's like you really think this is just a dissatisfied customer complaint? I'm going to sue you
[30/12/2014, 11:57:37 AM] Peter Coffin: I love how it keeps cutting back to chris as he’s narrating his searches quietly
[30/12/2014, 11:57:40 AM] David Gallant: Yikes.
[30/12/2014, 11:58:24 AM] Remy: Oh I guess it happened back in August
[30/12/2014, 11:58:32 AM] Ian Cheong: "nononononononononono" - mike cernovich
[30/12/2014, 11:58:32 AM] Remy: http://www.mommyish.com/2014/08/01/mom-finds-mold-in-fruit-pouch-gets-shamed-by-internet/
[30/12/2014, 11:58:40 AM] Remy: But it's just now gaining traction in social media I guess
[30/12/2014, 11:58:45 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Mike does not care about the shit he gets.
[30/12/2014, 11:58:57 AM] Veerender Jubbal: So, is that my time to send a Sailor Moon GIF?
[30/12/2014, 11:59:08 AM] live:riotarms: Oh damn
[30/12/2014, 11:59:10 AM] Peter Coffin: he won’t give a FUCK
[30/12/2014, 11:59:30 AM] live:riotarms: This girl keeps coming up in gg searches a lot
[30/12/2014, 11:59:39 AM] live:riotarms: Pro gg, dyed hair
[30/12/2014, 11:59:45 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Pretty much.
[30/12/2014, 12:00:15 PM] Ian Cheong: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[30/12/2014, 12:00:15 PM] live:riotarms: Like... how fucking bitter would you have to be to join a hate movement that reduces you to a cartoon stereotype
[30/12/2014, 12:00:22 PM] Ian Cheong: oh my god chris just baits mike into traps
[30/12/2014, 12:00:30 PM] Ian Cheong: "So why didnt you follow the link that lead to LA Crimestoppers"
[30/12/2014, 12:00:34 PM] Ian Cheong: this is fucking great
[30/12/2014, 12:00:47 PM] Athena Hollow: he did the best job ever.
[30/12/2014, 12:00:47 PM] Veerender Jubbal: Mike is livid.
[30/12/2014, 12:00:53 PM] Veerender Jubbal: GamerGater livid.
[30/12/2014, 12:00:54 PM] Ian Cheong: he just hands mike enough rope to hang himself.
[30/12/2014, 12:00:59 PM] Athena Hollow: yup
[30/12/2014, 12:01:01 PM] Ian Cheong: and then he tightens the noose
[30/12/2014, 12:01:05 PM] Ian Cheong: snap
[30/12/2014, 12:01:24 PM] Ian Cheong: putting the "ohhhh snap" in noose tightening
[30/12/2014, 12:03:38 PM] live:riotarms: They're claiming he got the number of people on earth wrong
[30/12/2014, 12:03:44 PM] live:riotarms: That's all they got
[30/12/2014, 12:03:44 PM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/BastendorfGames/status/549430066011459584
[30/12/2014, 12:03:45 PM] Athena Hollow: LMFAO
[30/12/2014, 12:03:47 PM] Athena Hollow: holy shit.
[30/12/2014, 12:03:57 PM] Athena Hollow: This is the video game equivalent of "I'm not racist. I have a black friend"
[30/12/2014, 12:04:14 PM] Ian Cheong: "nonononononononoo" - mike cernovich
[30/12/2014, 12:04:20 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 12:04:29 PM] Veerender Jubbal: That was the guy who went after me.
[30/12/2014, 12:04:36 PM] Athena Hollow: he's a fucking numpty
[30/12/2014, 12:04:39 PM] David Gallant: Which girl?
[30/12/2014, 12:05:40 PM] David Gallant: " best independent game developer on the planet. " uh huh
[30/12/2014, 12:06:05 PM] live:riotarms: "I'm not racist, I made a black character in PSO once"
[30/12/2014, 12:06:09 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/549778271261310976
[30/12/2014, 12:07:07 PM] Peter Coffin: ew
[30/12/2014, 12:08:31 PM] Veerender Jubbal: Mike sounds like a child.
[30/12/2014, 12:08:37 PM] Veerender Jubbal: I am saying this.
[30/12/2014, 12:08:39 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 12:09:01 PM] Peter Coffin: this white knight shit is the worst
[30/12/2014, 12:09:08 PM] Ian Cheong: im at the white knight part
[30/12/2014, 12:09:18 PM] Peter Coffin: I’m barely ahead of you ian
[30/12/2014, 12:09:22 PM] Veerender Jubbal: I get to be a Paladin.
[30/12/2014, 12:09:40 PM] live:riotarms: Oh man Chris spins him the fuck around in a minute
[30/12/2014, 12:10:14 PM] Athena Hollow: His white knight shit is pathetic.
[30/12/2014, 12:11:30 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/549779627573399552
[30/12/2014, 12:11:35 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: my feed's unreadable right now
[30/12/2014, 12:12:12 PM] Athena Hollow: they are so fucking unbearable.
[30/12/2014, 12:12:17 PM] Athena Hollow: and don't understand definitions at all
[30/12/2014, 12:12:46 PM] live:riotarms: Wonder how many gaters are left
[30/12/2014, 12:12:57 PM] Ian Cheong: why are they dogpiling sarah?
[30/12/2014, 12:13:15 PM] Athena Hollow: because that gross 'jerk off on picture' gnaa fucker framed SuperSpaceDad w/ a gger's picture
[30/12/2014, 12:13:25 PM] Athena Hollow: and sarah pointed out that it was bullshit
[30/12/2014, 12:13:30 PM] Peter Coffin: sarah is pretty influential, too
[30/12/2014, 12:13:30 PM] Athena Hollow: so they are saying she's victim blaming
[30/12/2014, 12:13:35 PM] live:riotarms: When I estimated 4-10 thou it was much cleaner to tell how many but I have no way to judge attrition rate
[30/12/2014, 12:13:38 PM] Peter Coffin: so her doing it is a big deal
[30/12/2014, 12:14:13 PM] Veerender Jubbal: I am at that part.
[30/12/2014, 12:14:30 PM] Athena Hollow: In other words: they're being dumb yet again, and living up to the 'straw man SJW' they created.
[30/12/2014, 12:15:01 PM] Ian Cheong: Devi eLiber
[30/12/2014, 12:15:26 PM] Athena Hollow: he can never get her fucking name right.
[30/12/2014, 12:15:32 PM] Athena Hollow: Devi. Ever. How is that so hard? lol
[30/12/2014, 12:15:44 PM] Quinnae: returns with a celebratory drink
[30/12/2014, 12:16:00 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: a troll jizzed on a printed pictures of lizzyf, claiming spacedad asked him to. lizzyf reposted that picture that implicated spacedad. i said it was fucked up she wouldn't clear his name since he was never involved
[30/12/2014, 12:16:09 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: now they're saying i'm harassing & victim blaming her for being sexually harassed
[30/12/2014, 12:16:38 PM] Peter Coffin: HAHA
[30/12/2014, 12:16:52 PM] Quinnae: Ugh, I'm sorry Sarah.
[30/12/2014, 12:17:01 PM] Tesseract: who's up for some tedious archiving work
[30/12/2014, 12:17:24 PM] Ian Cheong: Debby Oliver
[30/12/2014, 12:17:24 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i need to write a php script to automate that archiving ~_~ haha
[30/12/2014, 12:17:29 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: well, if you really want to get her name right, "Grace Lynn" but, yeah, the Eliver thing was weird
[30/12/2014, 12:17:31 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: DEVI OLOEBER
[30/12/2014, 12:17:33 PM] Ian Cheong: Debi Elibar
[30/12/2014, 12:17:33 PM] Tesseract: that would be very helpful
[30/12/2014, 12:17:40 PM] Tesseract: there's like 140 tweets here
[30/12/2014, 12:17:47 PM] Peter Coffin: breeby fomanrly
[30/12/2014, 12:17:50 PM] Athena Hollow: holy shit tess
[30/12/2014, 12:17:52 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: sjw i can work on the php tomorrow :)
[30/12/2014, 12:17:56 PM] Tesseract: good good
[30/12/2014, 12:18:02 PM] Peter Coffin: what needs to be archived?
[30/12/2014, 12:18:09 PM] Tesseract: a shitload of juicebro tweets
[30/12/2014, 12:18:23 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: also this gratipay discussion is a fascinating read
[30/12/2014, 12:19:15 PM] Veerender Jubbal: Yo, we are all going to body 2015.
[30/12/2014, 12:19:48 PM] Quinnae: You're in love what that verb, I see. ;)
[30/12/2014, 12:19:54 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: wait
[30/12/2014, 12:19:56 PM] Quinnae: And, indeed, I should hope so!
[30/12/2014, 12:19:57 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: the tweets from yesterday?
[30/12/2014, 12:19:58 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: or new ones
[30/12/2014, 12:20:01 PM] Veerender Jubbal: hugs Katherine
[30/12/2014, 12:20:02 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i archived yesterday's
[30/12/2014, 12:20:11 PM] Veerender Jubbal: We are going to be like this: https://33.media.tumblr.com/5d3c829ad05de5441466f80fa5b729ba/tumblr_ngvsw2rasf1tgfqygo1_500.gif
[30/12/2014, 12:20:28 PM] Athena Hollow: sgg: Sadly I don't think they're gonna pull 8chan off of the site
[30/12/2014, 12:20:32 PM] Peter Coffin: they published my mobile number, I didn’t say anything about it publicly, I just got it removed. the people who said it publicly had a lot more people spreading that information and people needed to know it was going on
[30/12/2014, 12:20:44 PM] Athena Hollow: but if that story gets big, I don't see it sticking around much beyond it anyways.
[30/12/2014, 12:20:52 PM] Peter Coffin: the people who got doxxed and said things about it were saying it publicly because people were spreading it
[30/12/2014, 12:21:26 PM] Peter Coffin: my number was an isolated person who found and published it, I got it suspended and that was that, they didn’t have followers
[30/12/2014, 12:21:37 PM] Peter Coffin: if there is a swell occuring
[30/12/2014, 12:21:39 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/pixelgoth/status/549781828865777664 more of CHOBIT harassing
[30/12/2014, 12:21:40 PM] Peter Coffin: you talk about it
[30/12/2014, 12:21:54 PM] Remy: everyone is talking too fast for me to keep up
[30/12/2014, 12:21:58 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 12:22:28 PM] Veerender Jubbal: Mike is the prime ignorant white man.
[30/12/2014, 12:22:37 PM] Athena Hollow: HAHHAHAHAH https://twitter.com/Int_Aristocrap/status/549781963280621568
[30/12/2014, 12:24:23 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahaha
[30/12/2014, 12:24:40 PM] SF: https://twitter.com/securitybrew/status/549763162552016896 This person keeps showing up in my mentions saying "androgyny" when I think they mean misandry.
[30/12/2014, 12:24:59 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 12:25:10 PM] Peter Coffin: oh on
[30/12/2014, 12:25:13 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahahaha
[30/12/2014, 12:25:24 PM] Peter Coffin: please say something about it
[30/12/2014, 12:25:37 PM] SF: No I want them to keep saying it forever.
[30/12/2014, 12:25:42 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahahaha
[30/12/2014, 12:25:44 PM] Peter Coffin: you ass
[30/12/2014, 12:25:54 PM] Peter Coffin: you make a fair point
[30/12/2014, 12:25:59 PM] live:riotarms: Do you think Juicebro actually has even a tenth of the success he claims with women?
[30/12/2014, 12:26:11 PM] Peter Coffin: I think he has raped at least one
[30/12/2014, 12:26:22 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: well yes
[30/12/2014, 12:26:22 PM] live:riotarms: I'm not really feeling his alpha personality
[30/12/2014, 12:26:30 PM] Peter Coffin: neither am I
[30/12/2014, 12:26:32 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 12:26:43 PM] Peter Coffin: I want to debate this person, tbh
[30/12/2014, 12:26:46 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: but, I make it a policy not to believe anyone in GG about anything, ever.
[30/12/2014, 12:26:54 PM] Athena Hollow: good policy.
[30/12/2014, 12:27:01 PM] SF: https://twitter.com/CCMSparkster/status/549781666655666178
https://twitter.com/CCMSparkster/status/549781775120359424
https://twitter.com/CCMSparkster/status/549781894326669312
I think someone is furrysplaining me.
[30/12/2014, 12:27:05 PM] live:riotarms: He seems like the kind of pathetic shit who'd lie about being a rapist for bro points
[30/12/2014, 12:27:16 PM] Athena Hollow: that person came into a convo earlier about diversity in games.
[30/12/2014, 12:27:20 PM] Athena Hollow: It was ... odd....
[30/12/2014, 12:27:24 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Everything they say is actually remarkably coherent and reasonable if you assume them to be from Bizarro World
[30/12/2014, 12:27:38 PM] Tesseract: oh yeah that dude is combing through everything I posted and replying to all of it
[30/12/2014, 12:27:42 PM] Athena Hollow: They'd mentioned something about how some rando dev added PoCs just so SJWs wouldn't harass him?
[30/12/2014, 12:27:43 PM] SF: Yeah he doesn't even look/sound/act like the kind of douchenozzle I usually associate with successful bar hopping.
[30/12/2014, 12:27:46 PM] Tesseract: he's not gg though?
[30/12/2014, 12:27:48 PM] Peter Coffin: “they’re trying to push games that aren’t good"
[30/12/2014, 12:27:54 PM] Peter Coffin: OHHHHH FUCK YOU
[30/12/2014, 12:27:57 PM] Athena Hollow: I think he's 'moderate'
[30/12/2014, 12:28:01 PM] Athena Hollow: but doesn't identify as gg
[30/12/2014, 12:28:09 PM] SF: There are a lot of "moderate" furries unfortunately.
[30/12/2014, 12:28:19 PM] live:riotarms: He's the kind of ineffective fuck who comes up to women who aren't interested and talks about what he benches
[30/12/2014, 12:28:19 PM] Athena Hollow: I think Mike WANTS to be a bar hopping douchenozzle
[30/12/2014, 12:28:22 PM] Peter Coffin: YES CHRIS
[30/12/2014, 12:28:26 PM] Peter Coffin: FUCKING CHRIS
[30/12/2014, 12:28:30 PM] Peter Coffin: FUCKING GOING AFTER AAA
[30/12/2014, 12:28:31 PM] Peter Coffin: FUCK YES
[30/12/2014, 12:28:32 PM] SF: They came out in defence (sorry "neutrality") when the whole Zaush/FA thing when down.
[30/12/2014, 12:28:53 PM] Veerender Jubbal: Mike went from saying he doesn't care when people harassment to --- people cannot fucking leave me alone!
[30/12/2014, 12:28:54 PM] SF: And when that stalker caused the exile to Weasyl, and the cycle repeats.
[30/12/2014, 12:28:54 PM] Remy: I don't follow FA drama what happened with Zaush?
[30/12/2014, 12:29:14 PM] Peter Coffin: I JUST WANT TO DANCE
[30/12/2014, 12:29:16 PM] Remy: FA and the community is just so rife with stalking
[30/12/2014, 12:29:26 PM] Peter Coffin: CATHARSIS IS NOW
[30/12/2014, 12:29:28 PM] SF: tl;dr Zaush is a rapist and people kept writing that off as "drama"
[30/12/2014, 12:29:36 PM] live:riotarms: Aight, thanks for having me, bed calls
[30/12/2014, 12:29:37 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I seem to recall this whole week of
[30/12/2014, 12:29:40 PM] SF: And then FA hired him to be staff when he has basically no tech chops.
[30/12/2014, 12:29:47 PM] live:riotarms: Don't let the bastards get you down
[30/12/2014, 12:30:01 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Can't post art to DA because the staff'll steal it
[30/12/2014, 12:30:13 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Can't post art to FA because it's owned by a stalker
[30/12/2014, 12:30:14 PM] SF: The only reason anyone can discern for it is that the admins hire every cliquey dudebro they find regardless of competence.
[30/12/2014, 12:30:32 PM] Athena Hollow: Cya knife!
[30/12/2014, 12:30:33 PM] SF: Weasyl is good! They are nice and transparent.
[30/12/2014, 12:30:39 PM] SF: (G'night!)
[30/12/2014, 12:30:43 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Can't post art to Weasyl because... there was some other scandal?
[30/12/2014, 12:30:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: or was it just people really hated the formatting there
[30/12/2014, 12:31:11 PM] SF: I'm not aware of any Weasyl scandals.
[30/12/2014, 12:31:32 PM] SF: I mean there was a thing a few weeks ago where one of the admins got snarky with someone over a call out journal and then made a really long form apology.
[30/12/2014, 12:32:08 PM] SF: It was basically the tarangryph(sp?) stalking issue again but less severe and IMO they handled it okay though not perfectly.
[30/12/2014, 12:32:47 PM] Peter Coffin: JIMMY WALES IS TAKING PAYOFFS FROM US
[30/12/2014, 12:32:49 PM] Peter Coffin: OH MY GOSD
[30/12/2014, 12:32:51 PM] Peter Coffin: GOD
[30/12/2014, 12:32:58 PM] Peter Coffin: THIS IS AMAZING
[30/12/2014, 12:33:00 PM] SF: Like they stumbled but went "Okay we need to make our policies clear and what is or is not our responsibility" which made me more confident rather than less.
[30/12/2014, 12:33:48 PM] SF: The direct contact I've had with the Weasyl admins implies to me they actually give a shit at least.
[30/12/2014, 12:33:50 PM] Athena Hollow: Oh dude, his ranting over and over about Ryulong taking payoffs was brilliant.
[30/12/2014, 12:33:54 PM] Athena Hollow: SO FUCKING CULTISH.
[30/12/2014, 12:34:31 PM] Remy: wow Zaush is a rapist?
[30/12/2014, 12:34:34 PM] Remy: that's fucked
[30/12/2014, 12:34:58 PM] Peter Coffin: my mind is blown
[30/12/2014, 12:34:59 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: who is zaush? i am lost
[30/12/2014, 12:35:06 PM] SF: Coercive rapist rather than violent rapist if that helps to know.
[30/12/2014, 12:35:17 PM] SF: I thought Sarah would be the only one who knew what I was talking about hahaha.
[30/12/2014, 12:35:43 PM] SF: Infamous popufur and FA admin.
[30/12/2014, 12:36:43 PM] SF: It's a tangled gross mess to explain the nuance of though because it got revealed in an unrelated security leak which he doubled down on the contents of and a bunch of other stuff.
[30/12/2014, 12:37:18 PM] SF: Basically made clear that the whole site staff that didn't leave in disgust is firmly in the "if you don't like it get off the internet" crowd (not that what he personally did was on the internet)
[30/12/2014, 12:37:46 PM] Remy: Never get involved in a landward in Asia, politics in America, or personal politics in the furry fandom
[30/12/2014, 12:37:51 PM] SF: Don't talk about this if you care about your account though because Dragoneer will grudge ban over this topic.
[30/12/2014, 12:38:08 PM] Peter Coffin: dibi bibler
[30/12/2014, 12:38:17 PM] SF: Hahaha
[30/12/2014, 12:38:32 PM] Peter Coffin: my brain is all the fuck over the place right now
[30/12/2014, 12:38:38 PM] Peter Coffin: I’m just like amazed
[30/12/2014, 12:39:08 PM] Peter Coffin: wow
[30/12/2014, 12:39:11 PM] Peter Coffin: so I just finisehd
[30/12/2014, 12:39:13 PM] Peter Coffin: wow
[30/12/2014, 12:39:16 PM] Peter Coffin: wow
[30/12/2014, 12:39:27 PM] SF: Even gaters were gently telling him he lost.
[30/12/2014, 12:40:03 PM] Peter Coffin: I’m going to go back to recording let’s plays for next month. I am legitimately at a loss for words
[30/12/2014, 12:40:09 PM] SF: https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/549760692304105473 This graphic design looks so familiar.
[30/12/2014, 12:40:16 PM] Peter Coffin: which is not a normal occurrence for me
[30/12/2014, 12:40:45 PM] Peter Coffin: lol
[30/12/2014, 12:40:47 PM] Peter Coffin: the gfx
[30/12/2014, 12:42:19 PM] Ian Cheong: I finished it
[30/12/2014, 12:42:21 PM] Ian Cheong: feels good man
[30/12/2014, 12:44:10 PM] Quinnae: Hehe. How long is the whole debate, all told?
[30/12/2014, 12:44:23 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: 90 minutes or so?
[30/12/2014, 12:45:52 PM] Quinnae: nods
[30/12/2014, 12:49:04 PM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qq2m7/offtopic_analysis_of_femfreqs_japan_statement/cn8j4uv
[30/12/2014, 12:49:19 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm pretty sure that Anita is trying to prevent us from experiencing the joys of 2D women. The kind of joys many Japanese men who've rejected the pig disgusting ways of 3D women already have.
[30/12/2014, 12:49:24 PM] Ian Cheong: The future waifus, and the Hatsune Miku occulus rift sex experiences take away one of feminism and women's powerful weapons over the male gender. Their dominance over sexuality.
[30/12/2014, 12:49:31 PM] Ian Cheong: endquote
[30/12/2014, 12:49:33 PM] Athena Hollow: ..............................................
[30/12/2014, 12:49:49 PM] Athena Hollow: "Actually, that's not ridiculous in the slightest. It's a very common thing for feminists. "
[30/12/2014, 12:50:03 PM] Athena Hollow: 1) COMPLETELY ridiculous
2) Not even close to what feminists do LOL
[30/12/2014, 12:50:15 PM] SF: Oh my goodness hahaha
[30/12/2014, 12:50:24 PM] Athena Hollow: bwahahhahahaha ch1mpan tears it up
[30/12/2014, 12:50:24 PM] SF: "And my dakimakura agrees with me on this"
[30/12/2014, 12:51:09 PM] Ian Cheong: tweeted it
[30/12/2014, 12:51:10 PM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/549789645861437440
[30/12/2014, 12:52:03 PM] Athena Hollow: "I hope all of you find a waifu one day so that you can experience love just like I've found""
[30/12/2014, 12:52:05 PM] Athena Hollow: omgggggggggggggg
[30/12/2014, 12:52:10 PM] Athena Hollow: these guys are for real, arent they?
[30/12/2014, 12:52:15 PM] Ian Cheong: they are for real, yes.
[30/12/2014, 12:52:19 PM] Athena Hollow: omgggggggggggggggg
[30/12/2014, 12:52:28 PM] Ian Cheong: i've seen similar sentiments before
[30/12/2014, 12:52:33 PM] Ian Cheong: about how 3d women are "pig disgusting"
[30/12/2014, 12:52:34 PM] Quinnae: Well... that's interesting.
[30/12/2014, 12:52:37 PM] SF: This reads like one of MomsAgainstGam's socks.
[30/12/2014, 12:52:48 PM] Ian Cheong: I believe there's a documentary on it
[30/12/2014, 12:52:54 PM] Athena Hollow: "How dare women say that I'm too much of a self-centered asshole demanding that women be subserviant or gtfo! I am perfect! my waifu says so!"
[30/12/2014, 12:53:58 PM] David Gallant: Is... is daimakura his waifu?
[30/12/2014, 12:54:30 PM] SF: Dakis are dangerously close to 3d territory imo
[30/12/2014, 12:55:08 PM] Ian Cheong: daimakura are body pillows, right?
[30/12/2014, 12:55:16 PM] Ian Cheong: dakimakura
[30/12/2014, 12:55:48 PM] SF: Correct.
[30/12/2014, 12:56:27 PM] SF: Specifically the term colloquially refers to body pillows with thinly dressed anime girls on them, which you can flip over and on the reverse side they are often nude/orgasmic what have you.
[30/12/2014, 12:56:49 PM] David Gallant: His... his body pillow agrees with him...?
[30/12/2014, 12:56:51 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 12:57:03 PM] David Gallant: Like... he doesn't see the problem with speaking for an imaginary woman?
[30/12/2014, 12:57:04 PM] SF: That was a quote I made up, fortunately.
[30/12/2014, 12:57:16 PM] David Gallant: Okay, phew.
[30/12/2014, 12:57:16 PM] Athena Hollow: I want one w/ David Tennant on it >_> but not to like, dry hump it. mostly for lulz.
[30/12/2014, 12:57:18 PM] SF: English punctuation needs mocking quotes.
[30/12/2014, 12:57:28 PM] Athena Hollow: but he'd have to be in his Doctor Who outfit on both sides LOL
[30/12/2014, 12:57:41 PM] SF: I have a friend who donated enough to the Barkley 2 Kickstarter to get the Cyberdwarf daki.
[30/12/2014, 12:58:00 PM] SF: https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fksr%2Fassets%2F000%2F275%2F906%2F56dc74ec5cb721ff14e798827455598e_large.png%3F1353659863&f=1
[30/12/2014, 12:58:11 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 1:00:34 PM] SF: I have seen much sadder than that though.
[30/12/2014, 1:00:40 PM] Athena Hollow: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qri1j/kluwe_vs_cernovitch_is_live/cn90zsy
[30/12/2014, 1:00:44 PM] SF: Like the guy who believes he has literally married Twilight Sparkle.
[30/12/2014, 1:00:52 PM] Athena Hollow: THE TEARS
[30/12/2014, 1:00:55 PM] Ian Cheong: are they mad?
[30/12/2014, 1:00:57 PM] Ian Cheong: they mad right?
[30/12/2014, 1:00:57 PM] SF: He has a Twilight Sparkle plush he takes to restaurants and orders food for.
[30/12/2014, 1:00:58 PM] Ian Cheong: please tell me they mad
[30/12/2014, 1:01:32 PM] SF: Chris also lied again and again. I knew he'd be trolololol, but was not expecting that level of outright dishonesty.

Overall I'd give myself a B or B-.
[30/12/2014, 1:01:34 PM] SF: Pfffft
[30/12/2014, 1:01:37 PM] Athena Hollow: It's Cerny
[30/12/2014, 1:01:41 PM] Athena Hollow: he's a fucking idiot LOL
[30/12/2014, 1:01:57 PM] Athena Hollow: "If I lose my cool, it's game over. The baiting and snark was designed to piss me off."
[30/12/2014, 1:02:01 PM] Athena Hollow: Could have fucking fooled me.
[30/12/2014, 1:02:04 PM] Ian Cheong: "I could have been more aggressive, but there is an emptiness in his eyes. He reminded me of Georgie Tait.
This is a petty insecure little man. You can expect a scandal (if he's relevant enough to get any coverage) about his personal life in the future."
[30/12/2014, 1:02:09 PM] Athena Hollow: HAHHAHAHAHAH
[30/12/2014, 1:02:17 PM] Athena Hollow: Yes, Chris is just like Geordie Tait... yep.
[30/12/2014, 1:02:19 PM] SF: "I agree with your assessment of his body language. It told more of someone trying to overcompensate for a lack of any factual point and was mostly grandstanding. His tactic of the giggling was to use emotive language to make you appear ridiculous but he overplayed it so much it lost its affect very early one."
[30/12/2014, 1:02:33 PM] SF: A large percentage of these comments are picking apart body language and gestures.
[30/12/2014, 1:02:40 PM] SF: Probably because the words were, ah, not kind to their views.
[30/12/2014, 1:02:42 PM] Athena Hollow: His "tactic" of giggling was giggling because it was so absurd you couldn't help but laugh XD
[30/12/2014, 1:02:43 PM] Ian Cheong: Nothing against Georgie, but Chris and Georgie are nothing alike.
[30/12/2014, 1:02:49 PM] Athena Hollow: Not even fucking close.
[30/12/2014, 1:03:24 PM] Athena Hollow: Geordie lost his shit, went over the deepend... Chris is laughing his ass off over JuiceBro living in a bubble of cognitive dissonence.
[30/12/2014, 1:04:19 PM] Athena Hollow: "The stream had around 200-400 visitors at one time. My AMA had 500-600 active visits on YouTube."
[30/12/2014, 1:04:27 PM] Athena Hollow: All about the e-peen.
[30/12/2014, 1:04:36 PM] Ian Cheong: loli is childporn by law in some states, and in Canada.
[30/12/2014, 1:04:43 PM] Ian Cheong: gators are saying its not
[30/12/2014, 1:05:00 PM] Athena Hollow: Seriously, if you have to write a fucking dissertation about how you /actually/ won because you were trying to to lose, you fucking lost dude.
[30/12/2014, 1:05:03 PM] Athena Hollow: goddamn he's out of it.
[30/12/2014, 1:05:11 PM] Ian Cheong: yup
[30/12/2014, 1:05:14 PM] Ian Cheong: Juice fuckin lost
[30/12/2014, 1:06:14 PM] Ian Cheong: "Kluwe is a damn ninja with all the deflecting. There should be a moderator to stop the goal post from being moved around."
[30/12/2014, 1:06:15 PM] Ian Cheong: They mad.
[30/12/2014, 1:07:33 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 1:07:49 PM] Athena Hollow: i want to print this out & have Chris sign it LOL
[30/12/2014, 1:07:54 PM] Ian Cheong: lol
[30/12/2014, 1:07:58 PM] Ian Cheong: ill link you to the thing
[30/12/2014, 1:08:07 PM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qri1j/kluwe_vs_cernovitch_is_live/cn8ug7g
[30/12/2014, 1:08:27 PM] Athena Hollow: LOLOLOL
[30/12/2014, 1:08:41 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, because that's not what GG fucking specialises in or anything. NOPE.
[30/12/2014, 1:08:45 PM] Ian Cheong: heres another good one
[30/12/2014, 1:08:49 PM] Ian Cheong: "Mike handled this poorly. He allowed Kluwe to drive the entire conversation. Mike was on the defensive, and then broke down into personal attacks. While I got a chuckle out of some the personal attacks I wasn't impressed by this in the least."
[30/12/2014, 1:09:01 PM] Athena Hollow: XD
[30/12/2014, 1:09:29 PM] Ian Cheong: "Mike, buddy, what happened?
If debates are for the audience, I'd have to hand this to the anti-GG side."
[30/12/2014, 1:09:37 PM] Ian Cheong: Kiwikku: Agreed.
[30/12/2014, 1:09:52 PM] Ian Cheong: at least some gators are being honest with themselves.
[30/12/2014, 1:10:21 PM] Ian Cheong: he also wrote
[30/12/2014, 1:10:22 PM] Ian Cheong: "This is sad. Mike is doing terrible."
[30/12/2014, 1:10:23 PM] Athena Hollow: wait! Kiwikku is back?!
[30/12/2014, 1:10:25 PM] Ian Cheong: yep
[30/12/2014, 1:10:25 PM] Athena Hollow: YAY!
[30/12/2014, 1:10:26 PM] Ian Cheong: hes back.
[30/12/2014, 1:10:34 PM] Ian Cheong: "That's the entire point. This debate was a disaster for our side and i'm not afraid to admit it. To a neutral he would look nuts."
[30/12/2014, 1:10:36 PM] Athena Hollow: I want to take that one out for a drink LOL
[30/12/2014, 1:10:42 PM] Athena Hollow: It was a complete disaster.
[30/12/2014, 1:10:46 PM] Athena Hollow: And it was the whole fucking point.
[30/12/2014, 1:10:53 PM] Athena Hollow: It was Bill Nye vs. Ken Hamm
[30/12/2014, 1:11:06 PM] Athena Hollow: But with less to do with ideology so less punching down.
[30/12/2014, 1:11:12 PM] Athena Hollow: well religious ideology at least.
[30/12/2014, 1:11:32 PM] Ian Cheong: yeah it was a wash
[30/12/2014, 1:11:52 PM] Athena Hollow: Mike considers himself "above" everyone and on the grand scale of 'privilege' he is, so yeah, definitely not a punching down scenario though. But wowee, he's a tinfoil hatting motherfucker.
[30/12/2014, 1:11:53 PM] SF: Bill Nye dunked on someone and no one told me?
[30/12/2014, 1:12:01 PM] Athena Hollow: You never saw that? omg it was great.
[30/12/2014, 1:12:08 PM] SF: I'm a terrible 90s kid :(
[30/12/2014, 1:12:12 PM] Athena Hollow: Bill Nye debated the head of the Creationist museum like a year ago
[30/12/2014, 1:12:46 PM] Athena Hollow: the problem though, was that Bill Nye isn't as good at this shit as Kluwe obviously is LOL
[30/12/2014, 1:13:13 PM] Athena Hollow: I mean, it was interesting, but nowhere near as "holy crap that guy is really bonkers" as tonight's thing.
[30/12/2014, 1:14:06 PM] Ian Cheong: Bill Nye was holding back from being too mean
[30/12/2014, 1:14:15 PM] Athena Hollow: yup
[30/12/2014, 1:14:26 PM] Athena Hollow: Definitely agree. He wanted to mic drop so hard but was trying to be professional.
[30/12/2014, 1:16:12 PM] Ian Cheong: this is funny
[30/12/2014, 1:16:17 PM] Peter Coffin: despite that he still thrashed him
[30/12/2014, 1:16:20 PM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qr4sw/rebuild_initiative_response_from_bandai_namco/
[30/12/2014, 1:16:29 PM] Ian Cheong: they get a boilerplate response from bandai namco and are cheering over it
[30/12/2014, 1:16:54 PM] Tesseract: hahahaha
[30/12/2014, 1:17:03 PM] Peter Coffin: it’s because they’re really, really dumb.
[30/12/2014, 1:17:36 PM] Ian Cheong: also there's this
[30/12/2014, 1:17:37 PM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qrw66/retrospective_that_time_when_kotaku_and_ngai/
[30/12/2014, 1:17:41 PM] Athena Hollow: THEY'RE LISTENING GUIZE!
[30/12/2014, 1:17:45 PM] Ian Cheong: "[retrospective] That time when Kotaku and N'Gai Croal tried to accuse Resident Evil 5 of being racist (even throwing in the word "problematic"!) and the producer told them they have no effect on the creative process (archive.today)"
[30/12/2014, 1:17:54 PM] Ian Cheong: funny thing about that that gators seem to forget:
[30/12/2014, 1:18:07 PM] Athena Hollow: "it would be inappropriate of us to get involved with internet controversies" Also, fuck Bandai Namco.
[30/12/2014, 1:18:08 PM] Ian Cheong: Capcom replaced half the character models (who were black) with white-skinned ones.
[30/12/2014, 1:18:17 PM] Ian Cheong: over that controversy
[30/12/2014, 1:18:27 PM] SF: Interesting, I didn't hear that.
[30/12/2014, 1:18:29 PM] Ian Cheong: so yes, the creative process was affected by N'gai Croal and Kotaku
[30/12/2014, 1:21:24 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 1:27:48 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hey all. What's up?
[30/12/2014, 1:27:57 PM] Athena Hollow: not much. laughing at idiots as usual.
[30/12/2014, 1:28:23 PM] Athena Hollow: hah. Um......... I think that covers it.
[30/12/2014, 1:34:34 PM] Athena Hollow: ok i'm gonna go try sleeping more of this death sickness off
[30/12/2014, 1:35:41 PM] Remy: I feel your pain Athena I hope you feel better soon
[30/12/2014, 1:35:45 PM] Remy: Lots  of rest and fluids and warm soup
[30/12/2014, 1:42:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Not sure if this is worth storifying, but it's a handy metaphor to keep in your back pocket I think- https://twitter.com/SecretGamerGrrl/status/549795653875159040
[30/12/2014, 1:43:13 PM] Remy: lol
[30/12/2014, 1:43:35 PM] Remy: So again they are actively interpreting a rubber stamp "no comment, but thanks for your feedback" as a tacit endorsement
[30/12/2014, 1:43:47 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: they often do
[30/12/2014, 1:46:49 PM] David Gallant: Isn't it an endorsement, though? Anything short of outright condemnation for their specific actions is viewed by them as supportive.
[30/12/2014, 1:47:41 PM] Ian Cheong: t.co/j2I0xXtIxT
[30/12/2014, 1:48:00 PM] Ian Cheong: tw: suicide
[30/12/2014, 1:48:03 PM] Remy: true enough
[30/12/2014, 1:48:12 PM] Ian Cheong: dont click on that if oyu dont want to read a suicide note
[30/12/2014, 1:48:20 PM] Remy: Oh you were reading ht link, too?
[30/12/2014, 1:48:22 PM] Remy: that*
[30/12/2014, 1:48:25 PM] Ian Cheong: yeah
[30/12/2014, 1:48:31 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): XD, GGers get so upset at SEO rankings: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549804533086289920
[30/12/2014, 1:48:31 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: whose?
[30/12/2014, 1:48:36 PM] Ian Cheong: a trans girl.
[30/12/2014, 1:48:37 PM] Remy: I was just finishing and trying to look for something to lighten up my mood
[30/12/2014, 1:48:43 PM] Ian Cheong: not someone we know , i dont think
[30/12/2014, 1:48:44 PM] David Gallant: Oh no.
[30/12/2014, 1:48:52 PM] Remy: I can't take any more sadness today I think I've hit my limit
[30/12/2014, 1:48:53 PM] Athena Hollow: dammit :-/
[30/12/2014, 1:50:51 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :(
[30/12/2014, 1:51:26 PM] Athena Hollow: http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/warren-county/joshua-alcorn-kings-mill-teen-killed-on-i-71-remembered-as-sweet-talented
[30/12/2014, 1:52:06 PM] Ian Cheong: oh, great, even in death they call her josh
[30/12/2014, 1:52:08 PM] Ian Cheong: fucking bullshit
[30/12/2014, 1:52:27 PM] Athena Hollow: Her parents are a terrible example of parents :-/
[30/12/2014, 1:52:32 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ugh. suicide by walking into traffic? that's horrible for all involved :(
[30/12/2014, 1:52:39 PM] Ian Cheong: no kidding jesus christ
[30/12/2014, 1:52:54 PM] Ian Cheong: someone is going to live with the trauma of killing her
[30/12/2014, 1:53:07 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah
[30/12/2014, 1:53:15 PM] Remy: wow
[30/12/2014, 1:55:42 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Well that pretty well ended the good moon I was in after that debate.
[30/12/2014, 1:56:22 PM] Quinnae: I've been mourning that this evening.
[30/12/2014, 1:56:58 PM] Ian Cheong: No Izzy the article doesnt mention her being trans at all
[30/12/2014, 1:57:01 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: mood
[30/12/2014, 1:57:01 PM] Athena Hollow: nope. didn't mention anything about being trans.
[30/12/2014, 1:57:04 PM] Remy: The article probably does'n't mention, Izzy, but her suicide note was very blatant
[30/12/2014, 1:57:12 PM] Ian Cheong: calls her josh and misgenders her as a 'he'
[30/12/2014, 1:57:21 PM] Ian Cheong: not that i blame the journalist
[30/12/2014, 1:57:23 PM] Ian Cheong: its the parents
[30/12/2014, 1:57:23 PM] Remy: In fact her suicide note was very explicit that she wanted the death marked as being because of how she was treated as a trans person
[30/12/2014, 1:57:27 PM] Remy: ^
[30/12/2014, 1:57:34 PM] Remy: The parents probably didn't let the journalist know a thing
[30/12/2014, 1:57:38 PM] Remy: blackballed them on information
[30/12/2014, 1:57:39 PM] Ian Cheong: yup
[30/12/2014, 1:57:41 PM] Athena Hollow: yup.
[30/12/2014, 2:01:50 PM] Athena Hollow: it's all just so heart breaking :(
[30/12/2014, 2:08:01 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: meanwhile at least- https://twitter.com/clone1018/status/549803425509441538
[30/12/2014, 2:08:20 PM] Athena Hollow: heh
[30/12/2014, 2:09:28 PM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qsaoh/notes_for_any_future_debates/
[30/12/2014, 2:09:32 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Not holding my breath, but I really do appreciate seeing people running businesses\ poorly at least explaining their thought processes in a frank and honest fashion.
[30/12/2014, 2:09:58 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): " If you feel nasty, accuse Dan Olston of distributing material that is, by his definition, child pornography. It's disingenuous, but if that's the level of the discourse..."
[30/12/2014, 2:09:59 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, the transparency is really refreshing.
[30/12/2014, 2:10:17 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: also promptness
[30/12/2014, 2:10:42 PM] Athena Hollow: They would be eaten alive by a MIDDLE SCHOOL debate team.
[30/12/2014, 2:10:46 PM] Athena Hollow: (gg that is)
[30/12/2014, 2:11:14 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: nah, they'd just be sent to the principle's office for shouting whore before things started
[30/12/2014, 2:11:19 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 2:13:00 PM] Athena Hollow: "As a skilled Debater myself,".... hahahahahahah
[30/12/2014, 2:13:02 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahahahahha
[30/12/2014, 2:13:14 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: hmm
[30/12/2014, 2:13:33 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I want to start passing out posters and T-shirts that just say "Block Like Kamiya"
[30/12/2014, 2:13:36 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 2:13:38 PM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qrvtg/cernovich_vs_kluwe_video_cliffnotes/cn8y8pb
[30/12/2014, 2:13:44 PM] Ian Cheong: kluwe isnt a gamer!!!!!!!!!one
[30/12/2014, 2:13:53 PM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHHA
[30/12/2014, 2:13:59 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ...
[30/12/2014, 2:13:59 PM] Athena Hollow: and cernyboy flat out said he wasn't a gamer.
[30/12/2014, 2:14:04 PM] Ian Cheong: did these people even watch the debate.
[30/12/2014, 2:14:06 PM] Athena Hollow: but yeah, Chris, you're totes not a gamer.
[30/12/2014, 2:14:20 PM] Athena Hollow: no?
[30/12/2014, 2:14:27 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: these people don't engage with media as a rule
[30/12/2014, 2:14:32 PM] Dan Olson: Can't they get my name right? Ever? It's not a hard name. Hell, it's a white name. It's one of the whitest names there is aside from Chesterworth.
[30/12/2014, 2:14:39 PM] Athena Hollow: "he's gay but somehow I think you're not 100% wrong" LOL Apparently you're also gay, Chris xD
[30/12/2014, 2:14:46 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: STILL not totally convinced the average GGer isn't fully illiterate, honestly.
[30/12/2014, 2:14:49 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Dan Olsen
[30/12/2014, 2:14:54 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Dan Olsan
[30/12/2014, 2:14:59 PM] Athena Hollow: DEVI OLIBER
[30/12/2014, 2:15:03 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[30/12/2014, 2:15:26 PM] Athena Hollow: apparently the word "ever" is too fucking complicated, so I don't expect them to get your name right Dan.
[30/12/2014, 2:15:33 PM] Ian Cheong: Elliber
[30/12/2014, 2:15:35 PM] Ian Cheong: Ebabar
[30/12/2014, 2:15:37 PM] Dan Olson: Don't matter, I spent a half hour in a sauna, nothing can frizz my chill right now.
[30/12/2014, 2:15:54 PM] Ian Cheong: Kluwe defended you pretty well Dan
[30/12/2014, 2:16:13 PM] Dan Olson: I got it downloaded, I'm debating watching it tonight.
[30/12/2014, 2:16:19 PM] Ian Cheong: Watch it
[30/12/2014, 2:16:23 PM] Ian Cheong: you'll end the dya on a high note
[30/12/2014, 2:16:24 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Well whatever you do, don't scroll back a bit and start clicking links, that'll prove you wrong quick.
[30/12/2014, 2:16:25 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Wait. Chris is not gay.
[30/12/2014, 2:16:30 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I thought
[30/12/2014, 2:16:45 PM] Ian Cheong: That's some asshole making shit up.
[30/12/2014, 2:16:53 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: There is, to my knowledge, one openly gay football player
[30/12/2014, 2:17:06 PM] SF: Ugh christ I didn't hear about that girl.
[30/12/2014, 2:17:20 PM] Ian Cheong: Kluwe spoke up when that one football player came out as gay.
[30/12/2014, 2:17:23 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: but, you know, GG thinks Ian is Arthur, they think SRH is Randi, they think....
[30/12/2014, 2:17:23 PM] Athena Hollow: I don't believe Michael Sam is on any team  though.
[30/12/2014, 2:17:42 PM] Ian Cheong: He spoke out against homophobia in the league
[30/12/2014, 2:17:42 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): SRH is Anita
[30/12/2014, 2:17:51 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Well, there's only one woman
[30/12/2014, 2:17:52 PM] Athena Hollow: yep.
[30/12/2014, 2:17:56 PM] Athena Hollow: so apparently that means he's teh gay
[30/12/2014, 2:17:56 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: everyone knows that right?
[30/12/2014, 2:18:14 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): SJWIlluminati is srhbutts
[30/12/2014, 2:18:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: And she wouldn't date ANYONE in GG back in junior high, because she's an evil bitch who hates Bayonetta.
[30/12/2014, 2:18:32 PM] Remy: I am also srhbutts
[30/12/2014, 2:18:33 PM] Tesseract: it's true
[30/12/2014, 2:18:37 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[30/12/2014, 2:18:40 PM] Ian Cheong: I am srhbutts
[30/12/2014, 2:18:50 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Stephen is Foxigon
[30/12/2014, 2:18:54 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): (sorry). lol
[30/12/2014, 2:18:58 PM] Remy: lol
[30/12/2014, 2:19:07 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... does kinda sound like Sparticus if you slur your speech a bit doesn't it
[30/12/2014, 2:19:08 PM] Ian Cheong: who wants to be roguestar (nobody)
[30/12/2014, 2:19:18 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Mike C is RogueStar
[30/12/2014, 2:19:25 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): They both have whiny voices
[30/12/2014, 2:19:55 PM] Athena Hollow: god they really do.
[30/12/2014, 2:20:05 PM] Remy: lol
[30/12/2014, 2:20:06 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Rogue's voice is much whinier, though
[30/12/2014, 2:20:07 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: best thing about watching that, really
[30/12/2014, 2:20:14 PM] Remy: I wonder whose done more push-ups
[30/12/2014, 2:20:19 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Mike
[30/12/2014, 2:20:34 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[30/12/2014, 2:20:57 PM] Athena Hollow: I know so many 'alpha' dudes that are just like Mike lol
[30/12/2014, 2:21:18 PM] Athena Hollow: Think they are god's gift to women and are too busy talking shit about women to actually shut up long enough to get laid lol
[30/12/2014, 2:21:42 PM] Athena Hollow: and they ALL have the same tenor range in voice.
[30/12/2014, 2:21:46 PM] Remy: I mean I know all alpha bros are essentially pretenders but I expected most of them to at least work out enough to look as tough as they like to talk
[30/12/2014, 2:22:20 PM] Remy: Maybe my time in the Army warped my view of how buff macho guys actually are
[30/12/2014, 2:22:20 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, I really did expect Mike to not look like such a sad sack LOL
[30/12/2014, 2:22:39 PM] Ian Cheong: https://storify.com/Tolvo/a-gamergate-dev-sees-sikhism
[30/12/2014, 2:23:14 PM] Dan Olson: Damn, Chris, you're a well-composed sonofabitch. With a voice like warm butter.
[30/12/2014, 2:23:22 PM] Remy: XD
[30/12/2014, 2:23:22 PM] Athena Hollow: yeah, that's the dude that pulled the "I played San Andreas, therefore I'm not racist" card
[30/12/2014, 2:23:56 PM] Ian Cheong: gosh
[30/12/2014, 2:24:24 PM] SF: Chris's voice definitely gives me the vapours now.
[30/12/2014, 2:24:50 PM] Athena Hollow: oh crap. kav is arguing with wardell. LOL
[30/12/2014, 2:24:57 PM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/kav_p/status/549812612012052480
[30/12/2014, 2:24:59 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): SF, why are you wearing a "TEAM CHRIS" t-shirt?
[30/12/2014, 2:25:16 PM] SF: Why aren't YOU
[30/12/2014, 2:25:19 PM] Peter Coffin: kav is like the joker if the joker was good
[30/12/2014, 2:25:24 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 2:25:29 PM] SF: It was supposed to say "TEAM CHRISTMAS" but I ran out of room.
[30/12/2014, 2:25:34 PM] Athena Hollow: XD
[30/12/2014, 2:25:42 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[30/12/2014, 2:28:19 PM] Ian Cheong: someone on ghazi is sending emails (just one, actually!) to advertisers of 8chan to pull their ads.
[30/12/2014, 2:28:27 PM] Ian Cheong: and... its working
[30/12/2014, 2:28:38 PM] Athena Hollow: HAHHAHAHAH
[30/12/2014, 2:29:02 PM] Ian Cheong: http://i2.minus.com/iCURWgHqjyJbS.png
[30/12/2014, 2:29:17 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): OMG
[30/12/2014, 2:29:22 PM] SF: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17sEq7HX2QE
[30/12/2014, 2:29:29 PM] Remy: wow
[30/12/2014, 2:29:55 PM] Tesseract: did you just do in one email what gg can't do in hundreds
[30/12/2014, 2:29:56 PM] Dan Olson: "It's an unknowable thing!"
[30/12/2014, 2:29:57 PM] Tesseract: fuck yeah
[30/12/2014, 2:30:05 PM] Athena Hollow: XD
[30/12/2014, 2:30:07 PM] Ian Cheong: thousands even.
[30/12/2014, 2:30:34 PM] Remy: XD
[30/12/2014, 2:31:03 PM] Tesseract: yesss do that
[30/12/2014, 2:31:11 PM] Remy: lol
[30/12/2014, 2:31:23 PM] Remy: To show them what a successful boycotting campaign looks like
[30/12/2014, 2:31:28 PM] Tesseract: end them with their own tactic
[30/12/2014, 2:31:29 PM] Remy: The best medicine
[30/12/2014, 2:31:34 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Let's make that a thing.
[30/12/2014, 2:31:37 PM] Remy: so beautiful
[30/12/2014, 2:31:45 PM] Remy: Who else advertises on 8chan?
[30/12/2014, 2:31:59 PM] SF: We should hold off IMO unless this one person loses steam.
[30/12/2014, 2:32:09 PM] SF: If they're being effective without brigading we might make it worse.
[30/12/2014, 2:32:11 PM] Remy: avoid brigading, I get it
[30/12/2014, 2:32:14 PM] Tesseract: since we're not complete fucking idiots like gamergate it should be easy to just to to 8chan and check
[30/12/2014, 2:32:37 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): just go to one of the horrible boards and see which ads show
[30/12/2014, 2:32:38 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): http://pastebin.com/39TB3UaK
[30/12/2014, 2:32:38 PM] Tesseract: gg won't even check who advertises on gawker for fear of giving them a 1 cent profit lol
[30/12/2014, 2:32:48 PM] Ian Cheong: lol
[30/12/2014, 2:32:53 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 2:33:00 PM] Ian Cheong: chrck /pol/ too
[30/12/2014, 2:33:07 PM] Ian Cheong: thats where the neonazi stuff is
[30/12/2014, 2:33:18 PM] Tesseract: but yeah let's hold off a bit until some articles come out
[30/12/2014, 2:33:28 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): sounds good
[30/12/2014, 2:33:51 PM] Ian Cheong: yeah
[30/12/2014, 2:34:51 PM] Ian Cheong: i went to pol
[30/12/2014, 2:34:53 PM] Ian Cheong: this is the top post
[30/12/2014, 2:34:55 PM] Ian Cheong: http://8chan.co/pol/res/751388.html#q751388
[30/12/2014, 2:35:17 PM] Tesseract: what
[30/12/2014, 2:36:00 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
[30/12/2014, 2:36:04 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): what.
[30/12/2014, 2:36:27 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Do... they always write in ALL CAPS like that?
[30/12/2014, 2:37:00 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): (scrolls down a bit more. oh, I guess not)
[30/12/2014, 2:38:28 PM] Remy: lol
[30/12/2014, 2:38:38 PM] Remy: Okay so I finally read Mike C's response to the debate
[30/12/2014, 2:38:49 PM] Athena Hollow: it's so disconnected from reality LOL
[30/12/2014, 2:38:53 PM] Remy: Apparently mike feels like he was used for publicity because XD his name is bigger http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qri1j/kluwe_vs_cernovitch_is_live/cn90zsy
[30/12/2014, 2:38:59 PM] Remy: Oh Mike
[30/12/2014, 2:39:07 PM] Remy: I knew you'd have to land on something to let your ego survive the night
[30/12/2014, 2:39:13 PM] Remy: But I didn't know you could bend over backwards like that
[30/12/2014, 2:39:31 PM] Ian Cheong: oh boy here we go
[30/12/2014, 2:39:33 PM] Ian Cheong: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9kyQy9ULdDcHdwQlc1TllTQjQ/view
[30/12/2014, 2:39:47 PM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/Int_Aristocrap/status/549801543969435648
[30/12/2014, 2:41:20 PM] Remy: What am I looking at, Ian?
[30/12/2014, 2:43:33 PM] Remy: omg my husband just caught the cutest little bunny pokemon I want one
[30/12/2014, 2:45:13 PM] Athena Hollow: It seemed ok, until you get about 2/3 down the page
[30/12/2014, 2:45:33 PM] Athena Hollow: talking about 8chan & cp "false flags" and sjw shills and shit.
[30/12/2014, 2:45:46 PM] Athena Hollow: YOUR GATER IS SHOWING IN THIS OTHERWISE SORT OF OK DOCUMENT GUYS
[30/12/2014, 2:46:15 PM] Athena Hollow: either way, few people are going to use a site called 'based gamer' if they know it's associated with gamergate and/or the chans. So they are really asking for a lot to try and get $50k for a 500 person audience.
[30/12/2014, 2:49:54 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/549819420952895488 rofl
[30/12/2014, 2:53:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh wow these gratipay people
[30/12/2014, 2:54:22 PM] Ian Cheong: what's going on wi th gratipay
[30/12/2014, 2:54:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: https://github.com/gratipay/inside.gratipay.com/issues/118
[30/12/2014, 2:54:35 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Fascinating read
[30/12/2014, 2:56:00 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: "The funny thing about Gratipay is that is has chosen for its doors to be open to everyone at all times, murderers and saints alike, as long as they're not murdering inside its metaphysical walls. Whether or not that's good for business is not yet fully understood and I think this issue is trying to hash that out."
[30/12/2014, 2:56:53 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... OK when I make a metaphor about you aiding and abetting a murderer, that's not something I'm saying you should be proud of yourself for.
[30/12/2014, 2:56:58 PM] Athena Hollow: They should contact the credit card companies and see if they would even allow said sites to be used with them.
[30/12/2014, 2:57:29 PM] Athena Hollow: because 8chan would absolutely fucking not be allowed to accept donations directly on the site as per visa & mc rules.
[30/12/2014, 2:57:36 PM] Athena Hollow: and THAT is what they need to be going off of.
[30/12/2014, 2:57:42 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yes
[30/12/2014, 2:57:51 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: which is kinda what I was trying to explain here.
[30/12/2014, 2:58:01 PM] Athena Hollow: It's the reason I don't get pissy about places not allowing adult content, because it's not the site's decision, it's the cc companies.
[30/12/2014, 2:58:07 PM] Ian Cheong: quick question about pipes
[30/12/2014, 2:58:14 PM] Ian Cheong: do you inhale?
[30/12/2014, 2:58:25 PM] Ian Cheong: or is it like cigars where you don't
[30/12/2014, 2:58:32 PM] Remy: Oh lol
[30/12/2014, 2:58:42 PM] Remy: personal preference
[30/12/2014, 2:58:43 PM] Ian Cheong: I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT BONGS
[30/12/2014, 2:58:56 PM] Remy: XD
[30/12/2014, 2:58:58 PM] David Gallant: Tobacco pipe? Don't inhale
[30/12/2014, 2:59:00 PM] Tesseract: so, wait for articles on 8chan to come out and then blast it until hotwheels is reduced to sucking bitcoin out of a straw
[30/12/2014, 2:59:04 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 2:59:09 PM] Ian Cheong: yeah tobacco pipe.
[30/12/2014, 2:59:11 PM] Ian Cheong: alright i wont inhale
[30/12/2014, 2:59:14 PM] Ian Cheong: im buying one today
[30/12/2014, 2:59:18 PM] Ian Cheong: or tomorrow or sometime soon
[30/12/2014, 2:59:18 PM] Athena Hollow: thats pretty much my thoughts tess
[30/12/2014, 2:59:29 PM] Remy: I need to start looking for one too
[30/12/2014, 2:59:46 PM] Tesseract: and then destroy the bitcoin market which is super easy judging by what I know of bitcoin lol
[30/12/2014, 2:59:58 PM] SF: Problem is that would be good news for bitcoin.
[30/12/2014, 3:00:20 PM] Tesseract: pfff
[30/12/2014, 3:00:39 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 3:00:42 PM] Ian Cheong: lol
[30/12/2014, 3:00:43 PM] Athena Hollow: OH OH OH TESS!
[30/12/2014, 3:00:47 PM] Athena Hollow: Did you see that Kiwikku is back?!
[30/12/2014, 3:00:51 PM] Tesseract: yes
[30/12/2014, 3:00:55 PM] Tesseract: it's a miracle
[30/12/2014, 3:01:00 PM] Ian Cheong: hes adorable.
[30/12/2014, 3:01:02 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 3:01:05 PM] Tesseract: prophet kiwikku has come back from the dead
[30/12/2014, 3:01:09 PM] Athena Hollow: XD
[30/12/2014, 3:02:32 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): was he banned for 3 days? please be 3 days
[30/12/2014, 3:02:57 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): brb, checking to see the dates for when he was banned and when he was able to comment again in KiA
[30/12/2014, 3:03:37 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahahahahaha
[30/12/2014, 3:03:55 PM] Quinnae: laughs
[30/12/2014, 3:04:08 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: this last response here
[30/12/2014, 3:04:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: help, how do I metaphor?
[30/12/2014, 3:04:29 PM] Ian Cheong: do i want a long pipe or a short pipe?
[30/12/2014, 3:05:08 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): aww. looks like he was banned for 6 days
[30/12/2014, 3:05:09 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): darn
[30/12/2014, 3:05:11 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I suppose it depends how much you want to look like a 17th century detective vs. Popeye?
[30/12/2014, 3:05:17 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wait. that means he is Satan
[30/12/2014, 3:05:19 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :O
[30/12/2014, 3:06:22 PM] Remy: Honestly, Ian, short pipe v long pipe should be answered only by yourself
[30/12/2014, 3:06:37 PM] Remy: As yourself how far away from your face you wanna hold your pipe  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[30/12/2014, 3:06:46 PM] Ian Cheong: that's the only difference?
[30/12/2014, 3:07:21 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I suppose you'd have to inhale slightly more sharply with a longer stem?
[30/12/2014, 3:07:24 PM] Remy: I'm sure it'll affect draw a bit but srsly it'll probably have more of an effect on how comfortable it is to hold and how pleased you are with the aesthetic
[30/12/2014, 3:08:32 PM] Ian Cheong: this looks nice. http://www.cigarsinternational.com/pipes/84420/stanwell-black-white-smooth/
[30/12/2014, 3:08:57 PM] Dan Olson: It's also about temperature
[30/12/2014, 3:09:04 PM] Dan Olson: longer pipes cool the smoke more
[30/12/2014, 3:09:23 PM] Ian Cheong: im guessing short pipes get you lightheaded faster.
[30/12/2014, 3:13:32 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): the 4chan murderer is a lovely person: http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-charged-in-brutal-Port-Orchard-murder-now-charged-in-jail-assault-287084091.html
[30/12/2014, 3:13:54 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL I made a joke about projection on ghazi & apparently someone called me something mean XD All that's there now is a response from mudze that says "Gendered attacks aren't allowed on Ghazi." with a deleted post above it lol
[30/12/2014, 3:14:11 PM] Athena Hollow: holy fucking shit
[30/12/2014, 3:15:22 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Well, glad to hear they apparently caught him.
[30/12/2014, 3:16:06 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): They apprehended him the night of
[30/12/2014, 3:16:12 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): he turned himself in
[30/12/2014, 3:16:28 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I can't believe no one on 4chan reported it to the police, though
[30/12/2014, 3:16:48 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): police didn't hear until her son found her dead body and called the police
[30/12/2014, 3:16:50 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :/
[30/12/2014, 3:16:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Weird how I didn't catch that but do have all these dead body photos in my 8chan files.
[30/12/2014, 3:17:44 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): older article from when it happened: http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/port-orchard-murder-suspect-returns-washington/nh23s/
[30/12/2014, 3:21:52 PM] Remy: I remember when they were still announcing him on the loose and in the area
[30/12/2014, 3:23:11 PM] Remy: Whoa
[30/12/2014, 3:23:27 PM] Remy: Investigators believed the assaulted inmate was a friend of the woman he murdered
[30/12/2014, 3:23:38 PM] Remy: how the fuck did he end up in the same prison as a friend of the woman he killed
[30/12/2014, 3:23:44 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wow
[30/12/2014, 3:25:10 PM] Ian Cheong: http://www.cigarsinternational.com/pipes/83260/stanwell-black-diamond/
[30/12/2014, 3:25:12 PM] Ian Cheong: these are nice
[30/12/2014, 3:27:28 PM] Dan Olson: 191 and 182
[30/12/2014, 3:28:22 PM] Dan Olson: 83's also pretty dapper looking
[30/12/2014, 3:28:58 PM] Ian Cheong: yeah
[30/12/2014, 3:36:32 PM] Ian Cheong: gonna see what i can get tomorrow.
[30/12/2014, 3:52:40 PM] Ian Cheong: This is so fucking stupid. https://twitter.com/StephanieSonmi/status/549691547370139650/photo/1
[30/12/2014, 3:53:11 PM] Athena Hollow: dammit chris you need to quit dming me on twitter w/o following me LOL
[30/12/2014, 3:53:49 PM] Ian Cheong: lol
[30/12/2014, 3:54:21 PM] Ian Cheong: i get retweeted into so many people's feeds that people who don't follow me think they're already following me.
[30/12/2014, 3:55:02 PM] Remy: Chris would do that to me all the time Athena
[30/12/2014, 3:55:11 PM] Remy: I was like "you're so awesome but this so isn't"
[30/12/2014, 3:55:43 PM] Athena Hollow: He'd mentioned something to juicebro about stepping up against the harassment & I brought up how Chris had mentioned Chobit specifically & Mike said "Well I haven't seen her harassment"
[30/12/2014, 3:56:01 PM] Athena Hollow: except like 12 hours or less ago she was saying that she wants to bully SSD into suicide
[30/12/2014, 3:56:09 PM] Ian Cheong: SSD?
[30/12/2014, 3:56:13 PM] Ian Cheong: solid state drive?
[30/12/2014, 3:56:14 PM] Athena Hollow: so I mentioned it & he DMd me w/ "He RTd her just an hour ago too"
[30/12/2014, 3:56:18 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
Super Space Dad
[30/12/2014, 3:56:23 PM] Ian Cheong: Oh
[30/12/2014, 3:56:31 PM] Ian Cheong: yeah juicebro is fulla shite
[30/12/2014, 3:57:25 PM] Remy: covers his eyes no harassment here
[30/12/2014, 3:57:51 PM] Athena Hollow: yep
[30/12/2014, 3:59:24 PM] Ian Cheong: for archer fans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE9swzcHdw8&feature=youtu.be
[30/12/2014, 4:03:03 PM] Remy: omg
[30/12/2014, 4:03:08 PM] Remy: it's a whole episode? XD
[30/12/2014, 4:03:14 PM] Ian Cheong: yup
[30/12/2014, 4:03:14 PM] Remy: I was laughing my ass off just from the intro!
[30/12/2014, 4:06:34 PM] Dan Olson: There's also an alternate version of the Plastic Surgery episode where instead of Archer looking like himself he looks like H Jon Benjamin.
[30/12/2014, 4:07:16 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 4:52:32 PM] Remy: You know, I'd expect there to be a healthier chat community around pokemon
[30/12/2014, 4:52:37 PM] Remy: There's, like, three IRCs out there
[30/12/2014, 5:02:46 PM] Ian Cheong: I just smoked a big fat cigar.
[30/12/2014, 5:03:01 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Mostly the pokefans stick to larger circles.
[30/12/2014, 5:03:36 PM] Remy: I stink at socializing
[30/12/2014, 5:03:41 PM] Remy: I should never have been a human
[30/12/2014, 5:03:47 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: right?
[30/12/2014, 5:03:50 PM] Remy: I should have been something that doesn't need people skills. Like a badger
[30/12/2014, 5:03:52 PM] Ian Cheong: If you were a dog you would be averse to sniffing butts
[30/12/2014, 5:05:49 PM] Remy: Okay so I just found The Vicar of Dibley on Netflix and so far I like it
[30/12/2014, 5:06:19 PM] Remy: XD
[30/12/2014, 5:14:10 PM] Remy: Okay so yeah I'm liking the Vicar of Dibley
[30/12/2014, 5:14:28 PM] Remy: It's like they said "What if we took Father Ted but made the main character a sassy lady who don't take no guff"
[30/12/2014, 5:34:33 PM] Ian Cheong: http://instagram.com/p/xOdqP2Evh0/
[30/12/2014, 5:36:30 PM] Remy: Never tell Mike C that I am more afraid of the lawyers he will hire than I am of him
[30/12/2014, 5:36:34 PM] Remy: Either as a lawyer or as a person
[30/12/2014, 5:38:44 PM] Remy: He doesn't even get to be called Juice Bro by me anymore
[30/12/2014, 5:38:50 PM] Remy: He's Juice Schmo from now on
[30/12/2014, 5:39:09 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Mike Cernowimp
[30/12/2014, 5:39:14 PM] Remy: XD
[30/12/2014, 5:39:41 PM] Ian Cheong: Hehe
[30/12/2014, 5:41:09 PM] Remy: Is there a hybrid mach/acro bike in Pokemon ORAS? b/c there is an item here that is behind both stepping stones and a hill
[30/12/2014, 5:51:26 PM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/aberhamdrinkin/status/549862781554806784
[30/12/2014, 5:51:27 PM] Athena Hollow: LMAO
[30/12/2014, 5:51:46 PM] Ian Cheong: what's this about
[30/12/2014, 5:51:55 PM] Athena Hollow: rando saying toxic masculinity isn't a thing
[30/12/2014, 5:52:07 PM] Athena Hollow: "Prove it existed before now"
[30/12/2014, 5:52:09 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 5:52:18 PM] Athena Hollow: this is fucking fabulous. How goddamn delightfully dumb.
[30/12/2014, 5:52:37 PM] Athena Hollow: so of course, I had to make a response about bowing before the stemlords
[30/12/2014, 5:53:04 PM] Remy: Prove to me toxic masculinity/patriarchy is a thing

Um... okay. You're here. Demanding that I prove something to you.
[30/12/2014, 5:53:12 PM] Athena Hollow: they also said internalized mysoginy isn't a thing either.
[30/12/2014, 5:53:14 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahahahahha
[30/12/2014, 5:53:20 PM] Ian Cheong: Haha
[30/12/2014, 5:53:24 PM] Athena Hollow: (I spelled that wrong, but you get my point)
[30/12/2014, 5:53:56 PM] Athena Hollow: I mean, like, I'm not gonna ascribe every woman backing up a toxic ass sexist dude as it being ok, as having internalized sexism... but odds are in that favor.
[30/12/2014, 5:54:06 PM] Ian Cheong: Correct.
[30/12/2014, 5:54:23 PM] Athena Hollow: I used to be 'that girl'
[30/12/2014, 5:54:26 PM] Ian Cheong: Usually through the backing up of a toxic ass dude.
[30/12/2014, 5:54:28 PM] Athena Hollow: the "one of the guys" girls
[30/12/2014, 5:54:35 PM] Athena Hollow: until I realized just how fucking dumb that is.
[30/12/2014, 5:55:04 PM] Remy: I think we all used to be "that person"
[30/12/2014, 5:55:19 PM] Remy: It was in everything we watched and every comic we bought
[30/12/2014, 5:55:34 PM] Remy: it comes pre-built into the language we use
[30/12/2014, 5:55:36 PM] Ian Cheong: It's a culture thing. Women don't get into STEM because STEM is largely male dominated and biased against women advancing.
[30/12/2014, 5:55:40 PM] Athena Hollow: yup
[30/12/2014, 5:55:53 PM] Ian Cheong: Randi used to be that person, too. I recall her saying that she used to think that way
[30/12/2014, 5:56:00 PM] Remy: Asking someone to grow up without misogyny is like asking someone to make snow angels and not get wet
[30/12/2014, 5:56:03 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i think a lot of women (particularly in geek/nerdy culture) went through the "one of the guys" things
[30/12/2014, 5:56:11 PM] Athena Hollow: I think you're right on that one Sarah.
[30/12/2014, 5:56:17 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah
[30/12/2014, 5:56:30 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i didn't but that was mostly by virtue of being trans/lesbian haha D:
[30/12/2014, 5:56:30 PM] Athena Hollow: It's easier to explain why we like typically "guy" things over "girly" things.
[30/12/2014, 5:56:45 PM] Remy: A woman going through geek culture as "one of the guys" seems like it would line up with the same feeling of inclusion that fellow geeks and nerds seek out in each other
[30/12/2014, 5:56:51 PM] Athena Hollow: yup
[30/12/2014, 5:57:01 PM] Remy: So those feelings would be able to be able to get in there extra sneaky
[30/12/2014, 5:57:04 PM] Athena Hollow: Until a few years ago, I had all of one real friend that was a woman.
[30/12/2014, 5:57:17 PM] Remy: Those feelings, I mean
[30/12/2014, 5:57:20 PM] Athena Hollow: Now that I'm older and much more secure in who I am, I have several women friends that are likeminded :D
[30/12/2014, 5:57:29 PM] Athena Hollow: and some that aren't like minded but aren't assholes LOL
[30/12/2014, 5:57:37 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i'd totally hang out with you if i could athena :3
[30/12/2014, 5:57:42 PM] Athena Hollow: amusingly, I think I have more trans women friends than I do cis women friends though XD
[30/12/2014, 5:57:47 PM] Athena Hollow: <3
[30/12/2014, 5:58:15 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i think everyone was. hell, i think everyone still IS to some extent. you can't completely erase that cultural baggage, ever
[30/12/2014, 5:58:23 PM] Athena Hollow: The porn industry REALLY led the change in my view of the world.
[30/12/2014, 5:58:38 PM] Athena Hollow: I got really lucky that I was exposed to the good parts of the industry off the bat.
[30/12/2014, 5:58:45 PM] Athena Hollow: Otherwise I might have ended up like Mercedes >_>
[30/12/2014, 5:59:31 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah i know some nerdy women who flat out say they rarel'y get along with other women but say they're fine around trans women? never quite sure how to take that D:
[30/12/2014, 5:59:38 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 5:59:53 PM] Athena Hollow: it's the catty projection from cis women.
[30/12/2014, 6:00:02 PM] Athena Hollow: That's what my big issue was with women growing up
[30/12/2014, 6:00:10 PM] Athena Hollow: I didn't have time for all the dumb petty bullshit about guys.
[30/12/2014, 6:00:24 PM] Athena Hollow: And that seemed to be ALLLLLLL they ever gave a shit about.
[30/12/2014, 6:00:41 PM] Athena Hollow: Plus, whenever I'd bring up the stuff that I liked (games, comics, cartoons, etc) I was made fun of by girls.
[30/12/2014, 6:01:20 PM] Athena Hollow: didn't help that I'm an alt kid at heart, so lots of backhanded compliments were thrown my way "You'd be so pretty if you didn't wear black eyeshadow, all black clothes, etc"
[30/12/2014, 6:02:12 PM] Athena Hollow: So, interestingly enough, my issue was with what could be perceived as toxic femininity: that idea that if you aren't prissy, preened, pink, and proper, you're not a woman.
[30/12/2014, 6:02:29 PM] Ian Cheong: That too comes from patriarchy.
[30/12/2014, 6:02:34 PM] Athena Hollow: oh absolutely.
[30/12/2014, 6:02:53 PM] Ian Cheong: Those norms were developed by men and enforced by women.
[30/12/2014, 6:03:02 PM] Remy: They were programed to think a true woman was the prissy girl that talked bout boys
[30/12/2014, 6:03:08 PM] Remy: So they marginalized the ones who didn't
[30/12/2014, 6:03:20 PM] Athena Hollow: Before I learned about any of this stuff, I just thought I was weird, and guys never gave me shit about any of it, so I always thought I was just 'one of the guys', even though I wasn't. I was just me lol
[30/12/2014, 6:03:22 PM] Ian Cheong: Women are often denied agency.
[30/12/2014, 6:03:28 PM] Ian Cheong: I sound like I'm mansplaining!
[30/12/2014, 6:03:30 PM] Ian Cheong: Sorry.
[30/12/2014, 6:03:33 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL not at all Ian :D
[30/12/2014, 6:03:36 PM] Remy: me 2
[30/12/2014, 6:03:43 PM] Remy: I'm such a mansplaining dudebro
[30/12/2014, 6:03:48 PM] Athena Hollow: Believe me, if I felt you were mansplaning, I'd totally have said something :D
[30/12/2014, 6:03:50 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahhaha
[30/12/2014, 6:03:55 PM] Ian Cheong: Hahaha whew.
[30/12/2014, 6:03:57 PM] Remy: or "genetic elite" as Mike would call me
[30/12/2014, 6:04:00 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 6:04:00 PM] Ian Cheong: Ian Cheong feels relief.
[30/12/2014, 6:04:15 PM] Athena Hollow: If there's one thing everyone can always count on from me, it's to speak my mind hahahahahahahah
[30/12/2014, 6:04:55 PM] Athena Hollow: But yeah, patriarchy sucks ass, and I am trying to do my best to break down a lot of this shit for my daughter, but man is it hard because people suck.
[30/12/2014, 6:05:53 PM] Remy: From now on most/all of my stories are going to have girls and women as the heroes/protagonists
[30/12/2014, 6:05:58 PM] Remy: I've decided enough is enough
[30/12/2014, 6:06:00 PM] Athena Hollow: <3
[30/12/2014, 6:06:06 PM] Ian Cheong: Good on ya.
[30/12/2014, 6:06:12 PM] Remy: I can't contribute to this constant tipping of the scales
[30/12/2014, 6:06:20 PM] Remy: I made the decision a few months ago
[30/12/2014, 6:06:31 PM] Remy: Like I wanna say around July or August
[30/12/2014, 6:06:54 PM] Athena Hollow: She was so excited about her non-sexualized girl action figures <3 there needs to be more of that in stories & comics.
[30/12/2014, 6:07:01 PM] Remy: YES
[30/12/2014, 6:07:11 PM] Athena Hollow: Even when the big ones try, they manage to fuck it up /cough/spiderwoman/cough/
[30/12/2014, 6:07:26 PM] Remy: The messages we send with these insanely exaggerated body figures is crazy
[30/12/2014, 6:08:04 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL Ian "some jerk" - nice! hahahahahaha
[30/12/2014, 6:08:55 PM] Remy: body* figures
[30/12/2014, 6:08:58 PM] Remy: My fingers suck
[30/12/2014, 6:09:01 PM] Remy: I will never be a coder
[30/12/2014, 6:09:05 PM] Ian Cheong: Hehehehe
[30/12/2014, 6:09:09 PM] Ian Cheong: I will not give Cernovich the time of day.
[30/12/2014, 6:09:15 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 6:09:27 PM] Ian Cheong: Can we talk about how cute Kluwe looks?
[30/12/2014, 6:09:33 PM] Remy: <3
[30/12/2014, 6:09:35 PM] Athena Hollow: OMG YES!
[30/12/2014, 6:09:36 PM] Athena Hollow: hahah
[30/12/2014, 6:09:44 PM] Athena Hollow: he's so damned adorable!
[30/12/2014, 6:09:52 PM] Remy: I said it before I'm fucking sick with jealousy that he made headphones look sexy
[30/12/2014, 6:09:56 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahaha
[30/12/2014, 6:10:02 PM] Ian Cheong: Hahah
[30/12/2014, 6:10:05 PM] Remy: You have to wear radio headsets all the fucking time in the Army and it always looks goofy as balls
[30/12/2014, 6:10:10 PM] Remy: This guy pulls it off? fuck that
[30/12/2014, 6:11:01 PM] Athena Hollow: Image
[30/12/2014, 6:11:08 PM] Athena Hollow: Athena Hollow whistles
[30/12/2014, 6:11:18 PM] Ian Cheong: You look great in those.
[30/12/2014, 6:11:21 PM] Ian Cheong: What headphones are those?
[30/12/2014, 6:11:34 PM] Remy: Show-off :P
[30/12/2014, 6:11:52 PM] Athena Hollow: sony mdr-xd200
[30/12/2014, 6:11:56 PM] Athena Hollow: they are the best
[30/12/2014, 6:12:09 PM] Ian Cheong: sweet
[30/12/2014, 6:12:11 PM] Ian Cheong: let me take a selfie
[30/12/2014, 6:12:21 PM] Ian Cheong: Image
[30/12/2014, 6:12:29 PM] Athena Hollow: but yeah, that's an old pic. I've lost like 30 lbs since that picture LOL
[30/12/2014, 6:12:44 PM] Athena Hollow: ^_^
[30/12/2014, 6:12:56 PM] Athena Hollow: can I just say, I <3 your hair LOL
[30/12/2014, 6:13:03 PM] Ian Cheong: Thanks :D
[30/12/2014, 6:15:09 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i've got 20$ cheapo headphones haha
[30/12/2014, 6:15:31 PM] Ian Cheong: These headphones cost $400.
[30/12/2014, 6:15:33 PM] Athena Hollow: Mine were a birthday gift, but are like 4 years old, and were on sale for $40.
[30/12/2014, 6:15:38 PM] Ian Cheong: I did not pay for them, thankfully.
[30/12/2014, 6:15:51 PM] Athena Hollow: But they're impossible to find now... so I hope they never break LOL
[30/12/2014, 6:16:00 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i had a reall nice pair a while back... my brother's dog ate them. teething pitbull = ugh
[30/12/2014, 6:16:04 PM] Ian Cheong: Bowers & Wilkins P7
[30/12/2014, 6:16:10 PM] Remy: The only headset I have right now I just got for XMAS from my in-laws that actually hate me more than my real family
[30/12/2014, 6:16:15 PM] Remy: So they are probably cheap?
[30/12/2014, 6:16:15 PM] Ian Cheong: Real leather and stuff.
[30/12/2014, 6:16:16 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 6:16:26 PM] Ian Cheong: I freaking love these headphones, it's like listening to a live band.
[30/12/2014, 6:16:39 PM] Remy: My father-in-law called me a "fat retard" last summer
[30/12/2014, 6:16:43 PM] Athena Hollow: O___________O
[30/12/2014, 6:16:45 PM] Ian Cheong: Terrible.
[30/12/2014, 6:16:54 PM] Remy: And they decided not to show up when I came back from Afghanistan
[30/12/2014, 6:16:56 PM] Athena Hollow: Did you tell him that Fox News rots the brain?
[30/12/2014, 6:16:57 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i'm sorry :(
[30/12/2014, 6:17:02 PM] Remy: Joke's on them, they weren't there to see me pop the question
[30/12/2014, 6:17:08 PM] Ian Cheong: You should've used the fact that you're ex-military to denounce him. How dare he speak ill of a vet.
[30/12/2014, 6:17:14 PM] Athena Hollow: heh
[30/12/2014, 6:17:15 PM] Remy: lol
[30/12/2014, 6:17:20 PM] Remy: He's retired Navy
[30/12/2014, 6:17:28 PM] SF: I'm really sorry either way.
[30/12/2014, 6:17:28 PM] Ian Cheong: welp. guess that doesn't work
[30/12/2014, 6:17:38 PM] Remy: But it was interesting being called fat by a guy with bigger boobs than me
[30/12/2014, 6:17:41 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 6:17:42 PM] Ian Cheong: Hah
[30/12/2014, 6:18:18 PM] Remy: I'd like to say "it's nothing new", but it kind-of is? I'm used to my family being a bunch of shit people, but usually everyone I've dated has had a family that has just loved me
[30/12/2014, 6:18:24 PM] Athena Hollow: yeah.
[30/12/2014, 6:18:32 PM] Remy: I still have people who still keep in touch with me b/c I've dated their son or daughter
[30/12/2014, 6:18:36 PM] Remy: like a decade ago
[30/12/2014, 6:18:41 PM] Athena Hollow: haha me too XD
[30/12/2014, 6:18:53 PM] Athena Hollow: Parents always loved me >_>
[30/12/2014, 6:18:56 PM] Remy: people have kind-of adopted me through the years
[30/12/2014, 6:18:58 PM] SF: I almost posted a selfie but now I'm chickening out :x
[30/12/2014, 6:18:59 PM] Athena Hollow: I guess  because I'm honest?
[30/12/2014, 6:19:00 PM] Ian Cheong: I have good parents.
[30/12/2014, 6:19:05 PM] Remy: My childhood was crowd-sourced
[30/12/2014, 6:19:13 PM] Ian Cheong: Oh you should totally do it SF.
[30/12/2014, 6:19:22 PM] Athena Hollow: I have sometimes-parents.
[30/12/2014, 6:19:35 PM] Athena Hollow: Like, dad's an alkie, mom was a self-medicating bipolar....
[30/12/2014, 6:19:43 PM] Athena Hollow: but that wasn't really a big thing until my teen years
[30/12/2014, 6:20:07 PM] Athena Hollow: before that, I just dealt with parents who had me when they were way too young and had no fucking clue what to do >_>
[30/12/2014, 6:20:11 PM] SF: sent a file to this group:
Photo on 2014-07-14 at 1.20 PM #5.jpg
[30/12/2014, 6:20:21 PM] SF: That's about the best I can do right now.
[30/12/2014, 6:20:29 PM] Ian Cheong: Cutie!
[30/12/2014, 6:20:30 PM] Athena Hollow: <3
[30/12/2014, 6:20:38 PM] SF: The shirt says "BEWARE THE WOLF" in neon letters, that's important to note.
[30/12/2014, 6:20:41 PM] Athena Hollow: heh
[30/12/2014, 6:20:44 PM] SF: Aw <3 thanks.
[30/12/2014, 6:20:48 PM] Remy: Mine were just insanely neglectful in every aspect of the word. They kept me alive and fed enough to not raise suspicion. At first I thought I didn't get any clothes or haircuts or trips to the doctor b/c we were poor but then when I was 13 she married a rich dude and they were off enjoying Bahama cruises and I was left home all summer wondering WTF
[30/12/2014, 6:20:53 PM] Ian Cheong: Love that look, SF./
[30/12/2014, 6:21:00 PM] Athena Hollow: O_O
[30/12/2014, 6:21:20 PM] Remy: Actually no it was when I was 11
[30/12/2014, 6:21:35 PM] Remy: When I was 13 he kicked me out b/c I would always argue
[30/12/2014, 6:21:36 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, I grew up poor w/ 6 of us living in a 2 bedroom tiny house. Made just enough to not qualify for assistance, but nowhere near enough to do stuff like 'doctor visits' lol
[30/12/2014, 6:21:40 PM] Athena Hollow: O___o
[30/12/2014, 6:21:48 PM] Athena Hollow: sounds about like my life at 16, and my birth father >_>
[30/12/2014, 6:21:50 PM] Remy: So I went to live with my older sister
[30/12/2014, 6:22:03 PM] Ian Cheong: I used to get into a lot of arguments with my mom when I was a kid.
[30/12/2014, 6:22:09 PM] Ian Cheong: Like every other day.
[30/12/2014, 6:22:14 PM] Ian Cheong: She put up with my bullshit.
[30/12/2014, 6:22:20 PM] SF: Jeez. This is depressing on all fronts.
[30/12/2014, 6:22:38 PM] Athena Hollow: I used to fight w/ my mom all the time, but a lot of it came down to "please just fucking listen to me" which she never did -_-
[30/12/2014, 6:22:44 PM] Ian Cheong: It got better when I left the house at 22.
[30/12/2014, 6:22:49 PM] Ian Cheong: When I came back , no more arguments.
[30/12/2014, 6:22:54 PM] Athena Hollow: My "talk" was "Don't do it or you're grounded"
[30/12/2014, 6:23:30 PM] Athena Hollow: Was begging for birth control at 12 because I had hugely debilitating cramps, and my mom said no because it would 'give me a free pass to have sex' .....
[30/12/2014, 6:23:45 PM] Athena Hollow: SO yeah, we didn't get along until her & my dad split up.
[30/12/2014, 6:23:46 PM] Ian Cheong: Awh, that's awful.
[30/12/2014, 6:24:02 PM] Athena Hollow: But not even remotely as suck as Stephen's childhood. Jeez dude hug
[30/12/2014, 6:24:16 PM] Remy: ugh
[30/12/2014, 6:24:21 PM] Remy: I dunno Athena that sounds awful
[30/12/2014, 6:24:31 PM] Remy: I have had terrible stomach cramps for as long as I remember
[30/12/2014, 6:24:42 PM] Remy: Although yeah right around that 11-13 period is when I remember it really kicking in
[30/12/2014, 6:24:54 PM] Remy: Step-dad said I was faking it to get out of chores
[30/12/2014, 6:25:00 PM] Athena Hollow: mom said the same thing!
[30/12/2014, 6:25:09 PM] Ian Cheong: I never had to do any chores.
[30/12/2014, 6:25:11 PM] Ian Cheong: Yay me?
[30/12/2014, 6:25:16 PM] Athena Hollow: as I lay, curled up in a ball on the floor in front of the kitchen sink... totes fakin it.
[30/12/2014, 6:25:17 PM] Remy: I actually have huge issues about talking to doctors or anyone about medical concerns b/c I could never be sick w/out being told I was faking it
[30/12/2014, 6:25:27 PM] Ian Cheong: Don't hate me.
[30/12/2014, 6:25:31 PM] Remy: I can't discuss anything in my body or mind without feeling like I'm being doubted x-x
[30/12/2014, 6:25:32 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL GOSH IAN.
[30/12/2014, 6:25:53 PM] Remy: It's why... don't hate me, but... I still haven't called the doctor to make the appointment v.v
[30/12/2014, 6:25:59 PM] Remy: I keep putting it off and "forgetting"
[30/12/2014, 6:26:02 PM] Ian Cheong: You should call the doctor.
[30/12/2014, 6:26:07 PM] Remy: I know I know I know
[30/12/2014, 6:26:07 PM] Athena Hollow: I really only had dishes, but when you're 12 years old and having to hand wash dishes for 6, that's a total pain in the ass because no one ever fucking rinsed anything off.
[30/12/2014, 6:26:15 PM] Athena Hollow: dammit stephen! don't make me get the switch!
[30/12/2014, 6:26:19 PM] Ian Cheong: Seriously.
[30/12/2014, 6:26:20 PM] Remy: I'm such a stupid weirdo
[30/12/2014, 6:26:22 PM] Ian Cheong: Do it.
[30/12/2014, 6:26:26 PM] Remy: I stall on the weirdest things
[30/12/2014, 6:26:30 PM] Athena Hollow: i do the same.
[30/12/2014, 6:26:35 PM] Remy: More afraid of phones than bullets how weird and stupid is that
[30/12/2014, 6:26:40 PM] Athena Hollow: SAMEEEEEEE
[30/12/2014, 6:26:44 PM] Athena Hollow: tech support - 2 years.
[30/12/2014, 6:26:50 PM] Remy: But terrified to walk outside my apartment nowadays. It's gotten so bad
[30/12/2014, 6:26:51 PM] Athena Hollow: i can't stand the phone.
[30/12/2014, 6:26:54 PM] Ian Cheong: Aw man.
[30/12/2014, 6:26:59 PM] Athena Hollow: <3
[30/12/2014, 6:27:00 PM] Ian Cheong: Don't let it take over your life.
[30/12/2014, 6:27:04 PM] Remy: And I'm snapping at my husband x-x I don't like this
[30/12/2014, 6:27:15 PM] Ian Cheong: Are you medicated at all, Stephen?
[30/12/2014, 6:27:19 PM] Athena Hollow: do I need to get a hold of your husband and tell him to drag you kicking & screaming to the doc?
[30/12/2014, 6:27:20 PM] Remy: no v.v
[30/12/2014, 6:27:22 PM] Ian Cheong: Because that sounds like generalized anxiety disorder.
[30/12/2014, 6:27:23 PM] Athena Hollow: because I'll do that!
[30/12/2014, 6:27:24 PM] Ian Cheong: Easy to treat.
[30/12/2014, 6:27:25 PM] Athena Hollow: <3
[30/12/2014, 6:27:32 PM] Remy: I'm not medicated at all
[30/12/2014, 6:27:36 PM] Ian Cheong: Really, go make an appointment with a doctor. You owe it to yourself.
[30/12/2014, 6:27:40 PM] Ian Cheong: Love thyself.
[30/12/2014, 6:27:43 PM] Remy: Yeah
[30/12/2014, 6:27:58 PM] Remy: I'm hoping I can just make an appt with a psychiatrist and skip meeting with a general practitioner
[30/12/2014, 6:28:02 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup
[30/12/2014, 6:28:10 PM] Remy: it seems like such a waste, I already know what is up and what I want
[30/12/2014, 6:28:16 PM] Ian Cheong: Do it man.
[30/12/2014, 6:28:23 PM] Ian Cheong: New years is coming up, make that your resolution.
[30/12/2014, 6:28:43 PM] Remy: But then after I get a prescription I wanna get screened to see if I'm on the autism spectrum. I think it might explain my communication issues and also I recently read another side effect is stomach distress?
[30/12/2014, 6:28:45 PM] Athena Hollow: But yeah, I wholly understand the fear of doctors thing. I'd be lying if I said I was upset I didn't have insurance because I really don't want to go to the doctor >_>
[30/12/2014, 6:29:20 PM] SF: I know what it's like Stephen, I have some similar hangups. It's really tricky to explain to doctors why your medical history is so spotty.
[30/12/2014, 6:29:21 PM] Remy: And autism apparently runs in the family and apparently when we were little kids both my little sister and I were screened and like she had to take "special classes" in kindergarten but we managed to squeak through
[30/12/2014, 6:29:35 PM] Remy: I think we're both high-functioning and slipped through the cracks
[30/12/2014, 6:29:43 PM] Ian Cheong: that'll do it.
[30/12/2014, 6:29:53 PM] SF: Huh, yeah it's possible.
[30/12/2014, 6:30:03 PM] Remy: And I think my mom was more than happy to ignore the idea that there might be something wrong with her babies
[30/12/2014, 6:30:10 PM] Remy: She's that kinda parent
[30/12/2014, 6:30:31 PM] Remy: I almost died as an infant b/c she didn't know I had turned yellow until a grocery store clerk pointed it out
[30/12/2014, 6:30:42 PM] Ian Cheong: Jeez.
[30/12/2014, 6:30:43 PM] Remy: She learned that day that jaundice can kill a baby
[30/12/2014, 6:30:49 PM] Remy: Good thing a doctor pointed it out and not a mortician
[30/12/2014, 6:31:21 PM] Remy: I need to shut up about my childhood lol
[30/12/2014, 6:31:22 PM] Remy: Sorry
[30/12/2014, 6:31:59 PM] Remy: When I deployed I highly compartmentalized my mind 'cause it's a thing I do to handle stress and now that I'm back everything's re-assembling and it's this huge jumble and I fucking hate it
[30/12/2014, 6:32:48 PM] Ian Cheong: Here's some fake animals to cheer you up http://www.submerryn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/1U-Christmas-decor-2.jpg
[30/12/2014, 6:33:14 PM] Remy: I'm happy I have Pokemon and I made chips & dip
[30/12/2014, 6:33:35 PM] Remy: And I came up with a breakthrough idea for the next era of Pokemon-style game that will be insane if I can figure out how to make it
[30/12/2014, 6:34:41 PM] Athena Hollow: Don't ever feel bad or it unnecessary to talk about that stuff <3 We're all in this shithole of a planet together ^_^
[30/12/2014, 6:34:58 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup ,we're in this boat.
[30/12/2014, 6:35:43 PM] Remy: heh well thanks for being patient while I unload heh
[30/12/2014, 6:35:50 PM] Remy: two hehs
[30/12/2014, 6:35:54 PM] Athena Hollow: haha
[30/12/2014, 6:36:27 PM] Remy: Is Facebook dead for anyone else?
[30/12/2014, 6:36:59 PM] SF: Yeah don't feel sorry at all. If it helps then listening is the least we could do.
[30/12/2014, 6:37:34 PM] Athena Hollow: by dead do you mean 'not loading' or 'no one is using it'?
[30/12/2014, 6:37:45 PM] SF: My go-to cheer up post tends to be Pudding the Fox: http://www.onegreenplanet.org/news/pudding-fox-is-too-friendly-to-be-released/
[30/12/2014, 6:38:41 PM] Remy: oh I mean not loading
[30/12/2014, 6:38:58 PM] Athena Hollow: ah. nope. loading for me.
[30/12/2014, 6:39:04 PM] Athena Hollow: and that is the happiest gorram fox ever LOL
[30/12/2014, 6:39:27 PM] Remy: I <3 foxes so much
[30/12/2014, 6:40:23 PM] Athena Hollow: oh goody. the douchebag ad is back on ghazi
[30/12/2014, 6:40:37 PM] Ian Cheong: The shirt one?
[30/12/2014, 6:41:21 PM] Athena Hollow: yep
[30/12/2014, 6:41:27 PM] Remy: Pokemon definitely did something to their pokeball success rate in ORAS
[30/12/2014, 6:41:39 PM] Remy: Even Ultra balls are failing more often than they succeed
[30/12/2014, 6:41:43 PM] Athena Hollow: If they weren't so goddamn douchey I'd actually probably like these shirts.
[30/12/2014, 6:42:04 PM] Athena Hollow: Too bad they are self-righteous assholes that seem to think women wouldn't like this stuff because of their own deluded ideals of feminism.
[30/12/2014, 6:42:12 PM] Remy: lol
[30/12/2014, 6:42:14 PM] Remy: right
[30/12/2014, 6:42:17 PM] Remy: ?
[30/12/2014, 6:42:31 PM] Athena Hollow: Even Matt's shirt - the shirt wasn't the problem, it was the goddamn context of the event.
[30/12/2014, 6:42:43 PM] Remy: And therein lies the problem
[30/12/2014, 6:42:47 PM] Athena Hollow: context.
[30/12/2014, 6:42:48 PM] Athena Hollow: yep.
[30/12/2014, 6:42:54 PM] Remy: these people hate context x-x
[30/12/2014, 6:43:00 PM] Athena Hollow: I feel really bad for him; he's become a goddamn martyr for them :-/
[30/12/2014, 6:43:00 PM] Ian Cheong: "Fuck context" - gators
[30/12/2014, 6:43:04 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 6:44:13 PM] Ian Cheong: I looked at the "harassment" Matt received.
[30/12/2014, 6:44:15 PM] Ian Cheong: Wasn't harassment.
[30/12/2014, 6:44:25 PM] Ian Cheong: Was mostly women in science saying that the shirt was inappropriate.
[30/12/2014, 6:44:38 PM] Ian Cheong: No one told him to go kill himself.
[30/12/2014, 6:44:40 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: HOW DARE THEY!
[30/12/2014, 6:44:44 PM] Ian Cheong: He's a good guy and that's why he felt bad about it.
[30/12/2014, 6:44:50 PM] Ian Cheong: Gators could learn from him.
[30/12/2014, 6:44:53 PM] Ian Cheong: But instead, no.
[30/12/2014, 6:44:57 PM] Ian Cheong: THey've strawmanned him.
[30/12/2014, 6:45:02 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yep
[30/12/2014, 6:45:12 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: as they do
[30/12/2014, 6:45:12 PM] Athena Hollow: And kept fucking @-tagging him into convos.
[30/12/2014, 6:45:30 PM] Athena Hollow: They are literally the SJWs they claim they hate.
[30/12/2014, 6:45:33 PM] Athena Hollow: It's so fucking dumb.
[30/12/2014, 6:45:56 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I'm still pretty amused by the GGer who just randomly swung into my mentions to rub it into my face how Rockstar won some award or something
[30/12/2014, 6:46:08 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 6:46:15 PM] Ian Cheong: Gators are trying to hack into the social media accounts of the stars of Supernatural so they can post triggering gross shit and hurt the fans (and get them to kill themselves )
[30/12/2014, 6:46:16 PM] Athena Hollow: They have no clue about reality at all.
[30/12/2014, 6:46:23 PM] Athena Hollow: oh for fuck sake.
[30/12/2014, 6:46:30 PM] Ian Cheong: https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2qsx5g/8chan_now_trying_to_drive_trans_women_to_suicide/
[30/12/2014, 6:46:56 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Like... yeah, I actually really like them? They're a really impressive developer who does great groundbreaking work all the time? Didn't everyone love lemmings? And for that matter at least a few GTA games?
[30/12/2014, 6:47:12 PM] Athena Hollow: I fucking loved LA Noire.
[30/12/2014, 6:47:25 PM] Athena Hollow: My husband and I play through it together.
[30/12/2014, 6:47:34 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I'm a little iffy
[30/12/2014, 6:47:46 PM] Ian Cheong: They have awful business practices. Treat their employees poorly.
[30/12/2014, 6:47:49 PM] Ian Cheong: I know a former designer.
[30/12/2014, 6:48:03 PM] Athena Hollow: Oh yeah, I definitely don't argue that they can absolutely fucking improve.
[30/12/2014, 6:48:10 PM] Ian Cheong: I don't dislike them for their games, but their business practices are bad.
[30/12/2014, 6:48:14 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: something about the pacing, and the big freedom-y engine just doesn't sit right with me when playing as a cop
[30/12/2014, 6:48:24 PM] Athena Hollow: But this idea that feminists hate them completely out of hand is so dumb.
[30/12/2014, 6:48:28 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah
[30/12/2014, 6:48:33 PM] Remy: Well
[30/12/2014, 6:48:38 PM] Remy: Let's all just admit
[30/12/2014, 6:48:41 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: plus honestly
[30/12/2014, 6:48:51 PM] Remy: They instinctively conflate "feminist" and "SJW" with "people who dislike the things that I like"
[30/12/2014, 6:48:52 PM] Athena Hollow: And they act like we all worship Anita and every thing she says when we say all the time "Nope" LOL
[30/12/2014, 6:48:55 PM] Athena Hollow: yeap.
[30/12/2014, 6:49:02 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: as far as notable game companies who don't treat their employees like garbage there's, Doublefine
[30/12/2014, 6:49:10 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup
[30/12/2014, 6:49:11 PM] Athena Hollow: CDPR
[30/12/2014, 6:49:12 PM] Ian Cheong: DoubleFine is fantastic.
[30/12/2014, 6:49:14 PM] Remy: Because when they are not engaged in a political debate, that's all they know is yelling at people who like things that they don't like, and getting yelled at by people who don't like the things they like
[30/12/2014, 6:49:32 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and I mean there MAY be one or two others
[30/12/2014, 6:49:40 PM] Athena Hollow: but CDPR isn't an American company, so that might be why they aren't shitty LOL
[30/12/2014, 6:49:46 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: CDPR?
[30/12/2014, 6:49:50 PM] Athena Hollow: cd projekt red
[30/12/2014, 6:49:52 PM] Athena Hollow: The Witcher
[30/12/2014, 6:49:52 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ah
[30/12/2014, 6:50:09 PM] Ian Cheong: European laws are better about workplace stuff.
[30/12/2014, 6:50:15 PM] Ian Cheong: Not to say that they'
[30/12/2014, 6:50:17 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: well they're like borderline indie too, no?
[30/12/2014, 6:50:22 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah.
[30/12/2014, 6:50:25 PM] Ian Cheong: Not to say that they'd be shit without those laws, but yeah, European sensibilities.
[30/12/2014, 6:50:30 PM] Athena Hollow: They're like... AA instead of AAA lol
[30/12/2014, 6:50:33 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah
[30/12/2014, 6:50:39 PM] Ian Cheong: I like them as a company.
[30/12/2014, 6:50:52 PM] Ian Cheong: I told CDP not to publish Hatred, lol.
[30/12/2014, 6:50:55 PM] Ian Cheong: And they agreed with me.
[30/12/2014, 6:50:59 PM] Athena Hollow: The Witcher is another series that I love but has issues.
[30/12/2014, 6:51:09 PM] Athena Hollow: But it's gotten subsequently better w/ each release.
[30/12/2014, 6:51:18 PM] Ian Cheong: They release so many free updates for their games.
[30/12/2014, 6:51:21 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I suppose WayForward's probably fairly decent
[30/12/2014, 6:51:21 PM] Athena Hollow: But goddamn the sex collectable cards of the first one. ugh.
[30/12/2014, 6:51:33 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: at least internally, because, yeah, similar issues
[30/12/2014, 6:52:03 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, they've said multiple times that they don't believe in Paid DLC; that if something was going to be so huge that it required them make more money on it, they'd release a full expansion like the old days.
[30/12/2014, 6:52:33 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Well that scores huge points with me any day
[30/12/2014, 6:52:44 PM] Remy: same here
[30/12/2014, 6:52:52 PM] Remy: I'm tired of nickel and dime DLC tactics
[30/12/2014, 6:53:05 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Here's what I hate
[30/12/2014, 6:53:06 PM] Athena Hollow: So not only does CDPR have a decent grasp on how to treat their employees, they also are one of the most consumer minded game companies out there.
[30/12/2014, 6:53:15 PM] Ian Cheong: The only time I'm okay with microtransactions is with games like Hearthstone.
[30/12/2014, 6:53:42 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: the very first day the concept of DLC got tossed out there, I started railing against it damn hard, all fire and brimstone about how it had the potential to totally ruin the industry
[30/12/2014, 6:53:45 PM] Athena Hollow: I don't mind nickel & dime dlcs, as long as they aren't necessary. 

Day one release DLC that costs $10 more and was obviously cut from the game - THAT pisses me off.
[30/12/2014, 6:53:53 PM] Ian Cheong: You know what the first DLC ever was?
[30/12/2014, 6:53:54 PM] Remy: I was going to be disappointed in the lack of playable women in CDPR games but then they said they were releasing one in the next game
[30/12/2014, 6:53:59 PM] Ian Cheong: Horse armor for Oblivion
[30/12/2014, 6:54:02 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... and every single thing I said would happened happened, but people still stare at me like I have a third eye
[30/12/2014, 6:54:02 PM] Athena Hollow: ahah
[30/12/2014, 6:54:02 PM] Ian Cheong: 4.99
[30/12/2014, 6:54:22 PM] Remy: lol
[30/12/2014, 6:54:25 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah I believe there's TWO playable women in the next witcher if I read that release right.
[30/12/2014, 6:54:39 PM] Remy: Or when Mass Effect 3 released with a playable character you could only get from buying the DLC
[30/12/2014, 6:54:41 PM] Athena Hollow: but hell, even one female witcher is kickass imo.
[30/12/2014, 6:54:47 PM] Athena Hollow: omggggg yessssss
[30/12/2014, 6:54:51 PM] Remy: Who was borderline integral to the plot
[30/12/2014, 6:54:54 PM] Athena Hollow: with a story that was really fucking important.
[30/12/2014, 6:54:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yup
[30/12/2014, 6:54:55 PM] Athena Hollow: exactly.
[30/12/2014, 6:54:56 PM] Ian Cheong: I am so jealous of Leigh Alexander's output.
[30/12/2014, 6:55:01 PM] Athena Hollow: that made me so irritated.
[30/12/2014, 6:55:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: this is why I say @#$% Bioware forever
[30/12/2014, 6:55:05 PM] Remy: That whole game was fractured into different DLC
[30/12/2014, 6:55:20 PM] Remy: They may as well have made that entire game episodal like the Tales from the ____ games
[30/12/2014, 6:55:39 PM] Athena Hollow: I still <3 Bioware, but I think they'd be way less shitty if they weren't an EA subsidiary.
[30/12/2014, 6:55:41 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: the weirdest bit too is the people who get all up in arms about on-disc DLC, exclusively
[30/12/2014, 6:56:13 PM] Remy: I'm still waiting and seeing
[30/12/2014, 6:56:22 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: because I've been complaining for a pretty long time with them
[30/12/2014, 6:56:24 PM] Athena Hollow: I think a lot of the issues I have with Bioware stem directly from them being beholden to EA.
[30/12/2014, 6:56:43 PM] Remy: DA:I had a couple of token armor pieces and a mount if you bought the $10 more expensive "Deluxe" edition
[30/12/2014, 6:56:46 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I mean, I full on want my money back for the original DA.
[30/12/2014, 6:56:47 PM] Remy: DA: I
[30/12/2014, 6:57:01 PM] Remy: ok ok
[30/12/2014, 6:57:07 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, little things like that are cool, but not necessary to the plot.
[30/12/2014, 6:57:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: if I have this many ads shoved in my face while playing a game, it damn well better be because I'm too cheap to kick in my $10 shareware registration.
[30/12/2014, 6:57:24 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 6:57:31 PM] Athena Hollow: yep.
[30/12/2014, 6:57:36 PM] Remy: so just the token gear for the 'whales'
[30/12/2014, 6:57:42 PM] Athena Hollow: mhm.
[30/12/2014, 6:57:57 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and DA1 locked out the only melee character to join your party who is not a dog.
[30/12/2014, 6:58:01 PM] Ian Cheong: yeah Stephen and a soundtrack
[30/12/2014, 6:58:06 PM] Athena Hollow: (And I got free gear for being a member of raptr too lol even though I dont even own the game yet)
[30/12/2014, 6:58:21 PM] Athena Hollow: oh wow. I didn't know that SGG. I didn't play DA until the goty edition came out >_>
[30/12/2014, 6:58:44 PM] Athena Hollow: And I am pretty annoyed that no one seems to fucking release those anymore.
[30/12/2014, 6:58:46 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: happy fun golem lady was a day 1 DLC/preorder bonus
[30/12/2014, 6:59:10 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: but as I was saying
[30/12/2014, 6:59:15 PM] Athena Hollow: Like, sure, charge the $10/dlc or whatever for X amount of time, but goddammit, come out w/ a GOTY version eventually.
[30/12/2014, 6:59:20 PM] Remy: I'll admit that DA O released with an insane number of DLC when you look back
[30/12/2014, 6:59:22 PM] Remy: Like, c'mon
[30/12/2014, 6:59:26 PM] Ian Cheong: Too many, yep
[30/12/2014, 6:59:31 PM] Ian Cheong: I bought them all lol
[30/12/2014, 6:59:34 PM] Remy: And a lot of it ties in to the overall arching plots
[30/12/2014, 6:59:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: it drives me up the wall when people are exclusively offended by on-disc DLC
[30/12/2014, 6:59:36 PM] Remy: Me, too x-x
[30/12/2014, 6:59:43 PM] Remy: I may have missed one or two 'cause I'v never had a ton of money
[30/12/2014, 6:59:52 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: because I mean
[30/12/2014, 7:00:04 PM] Remy: If they are only getting upset about on-disc DLC then they don't care about the principle just the inconvenience
[30/12/2014, 7:00:46 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: if you actually believe that on disc means it fit in the development schedule, and not that they're just withholding content for the sake of charging extra, you're an easy mark...
[30/12/2014, 7:01:18 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and really, if you're going to do it, I'd much rather have a 2k key file cluttering my hard drive than the actual data of whatever you cut out
[30/12/2014, 7:01:27 PM] Athena Hollow: yup.
[30/12/2014, 7:01:56 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... except I'm kinda hardline about the whole thing, never buy any DLC, and do my best to avoid ever buying games where it's even a thing
[30/12/2014, 7:02:24 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: This in turn pretty well restricts me to just Nintendo, Sega, Atlus but... I'm OK with that.
[30/12/2014, 7:02:32 PM] Athena Hollow: My issue is the idea that me saying "I hate all this extra dlc" means I don't want to support the devs, but the simple fact of the matter is that it wasn't a thing before, and the game industry did JUST FUCKING FINE. Why is all this shit so common now?
[30/12/2014, 7:02:46 PM] Ian Cheong: Bad business practices.
[30/12/2014, 7:02:58 PM] Ian Cheong: Too much dependance on DLC to make money.
[30/12/2014, 7:03:00 PM] Athena Hollow: A couple bucks here and there,sure, I can get behind that. But a $60 game that bulids up to over $100 a game? Ugh.
[30/12/2014, 7:03:04 PM] Ian Cheong: While making the game at a loss, etc.
[30/12/2014, 7:03:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Because it is incredibly profitable, and gamers have no dignity or spending control
[30/12/2014, 7:03:17 PM] Remy: Over the years I have become more intolerant of DLC
[30/12/2014, 7:03:31 PM] Athena Hollow: Oh I mean, I know why... it was more a rhetorical question lol but yeah. it's just... ugh
[30/12/2014, 7:03:34 PM] Remy: To the point where I have just about decided to boycott games that practice it altogether
[30/12/2014, 7:03:51 PM] Remy: And there have been dozens of games that I have decided against purchasing just because I saw a swathe of dlc or in-app purchases
[30/12/2014, 7:03:54 PM] Remy: And said "nope"
[30/12/2014, 7:03:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: except, again, a few people do it right
[30/12/2014, 7:04:11 PM] Athena Hollow: GOTY editions are my kryptonite lol
[30/12/2014, 7:04:47 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/Meowsticgoesnya/status/549881786151759873 they're going after bri for that now
[30/12/2014, 7:04:48 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: huge part of why Bayonetta is my hands-down favorite game of the last generation honestly is oh hey, look, all the goofy extra stuff here is STUFF I UNLOCK FOR PLAYING A LOT OR PUTTING WACKY PASSWORDS IKN.
[30/12/2014, 7:04:48 PM] Athena Hollow: NICEEEEEEEEEEE
[30/12/2014, 7:04:50 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: in
[30/12/2014, 7:05:05 PM] Athena Hollow: SGG: That's why I <3 Borderlands
[30/12/2014, 7:06:13 PM] Athena Hollow: It not only clarifies THEIR statement, but ALSO the ESA's
[30/12/2014, 7:06:13 PM] Remy: I will RT it
[30/12/2014, 7:06:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I really want to pass that along to some people and need to plausibily have seen it on any ol' person's feed
[30/12/2014, 7:07:18 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: http://imgur.com/eD5gP8w ugh tb
[30/12/2014, 7:07:55 PM] Athena Hollow: HE STARTS OFF STRONG
[30/12/2014, 7:08:02 PM] Athena Hollow: and then derails into whiny mantears.
[30/12/2014, 7:08:17 PM] Athena Hollow: in true TB fashion.
[30/12/2014, 7:09:40 PM] Remy: I can't read anything he ever writes
[30/12/2014, 7:09:49 PM] Remy: I assume I wouldn't be able to tolerate hearing his voice, either
[30/12/2014, 7:10:45 PM] Athena Hollow: "Women are affected by rape threats more than men. NOW LET ME MANSPLAIN WHY YOU NEED TO STOP BRINGING UP PRIVILEGE WHEN TALKING ABOUT THIS"
[30/12/2014, 7:11:28 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: "transgendered" is kind of like nails on a chalkboard. i get it's out of ignorance but... blech
[30/12/2014, 7:11:40 PM] Athena Hollow: yep.
[30/12/2014, 7:12:07 PM] Athena Hollow: That whole fucking last paragraph is "You can totally be yourself, except when you're bringing up that you're different and try to explain why you're treated differently"
[30/12/2014, 7:12:15 PM] Athena Hollow: the epitome of chan bullshit, right there.
[30/12/2014, 7:15:30 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/549886174609698817 ian that whole thing is wtf
[30/12/2014, 7:15:57 PM] Rob: Morning, folks
[30/12/2014, 7:16:14 PM] Remy: morning Rob <3
[30/12/2014, 7:16:28 PM] Athena Hollow: Mornin rob
[30/12/2014, 7:17:02 PM] Rob: ahoy hoy
[30/12/2014, 7:22:22 PM] Rob: Also - Wi-Fi and Entertainment:

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[30/12/2014, 7:43:48 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: did the email boycott of the day officially end
[30/12/2014, 7:44:09 PM] Rob: alright, gotta pack up
[30/12/2014, 7:44:10 PM] Rob: ttyl
[30/12/2014, 7:44:15 PM] Athena Hollow: I think so. Icer usually orchestrated it, and she's been too busy getting people pretending to harass her
[30/12/2014, 7:44:19 PM] Athena Hollow: cya later rob!
[30/12/2014, 7:44:23 PM] Athena Hollow: good luck on the trip home <3
[30/12/2014, 7:44:30 PM] Ian Cheong: cya rob
[30/12/2014, 7:44:31 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i love when people looked into that
[30/12/2014, 7:44:33 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: and 99% of it
[30/12/2014, 7:44:37 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: was her RTing harassment
[30/12/2014, 7:44:48 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: or people RTing harassment with her in it, that was aimed at "anti"
[30/12/2014, 7:45:05 PM] Athena Hollow: I can't believe how dumb they are about "listen & believe"
[30/12/2014, 7:45:09 PM] Athena Hollow: it's not a difficult concept.
[30/12/2014, 7:45:23 PM] Athena Hollow: But it doesn't mean that we're ready to buy a bridge to china
[30/12/2014, 7:46:02 PM] Athena Hollow: Like we wouldn't look into it, and just take everything on face value from a group of people that still vomits out lies from 4 months ago.
[30/12/2014, 7:46:28 PM] Athena Hollow: Even Mike last night was like "This is YOUR guys rules!" um... no, no it's not. You guys are just too fucking dumb to listen lol
[30/12/2014, 7:47:19 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: "YOU CANT CRITICIZE HIM FOR CHILD PORN HES IN A WHEELCHAIR" "um did you actually just say that" "YOUR RULES!!!"
[30/12/2014, 7:47:33 PM] Athena Hollow: ow ow ow laughing hurts: https://twitter.com/IjeomaOluo/status/549754702108180481
[30/12/2014, 7:48:06 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: rofl at the valerie solanas comment
[30/12/2014, 7:48:08 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i wont lie
[30/12/2014, 7:48:16 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: im impressed when someone from gg/etc even knows who she is
[30/12/2014, 7:48:30 PM] Athena Hollow: lol hell I have only heard the name in passing XD
[30/12/2014, 7:49:00 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: she was a schizophrenic woman that wrote something called the SCUM manifesto
[30/12/2014, 7:49:04 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: and she tried to kill andy warhol
[30/12/2014, 7:49:09 PM] Athena Hollow: ohhhhhhhhhh wow.
[30/12/2014, 7:49:24 PM] Athena Hollow: but of course, people hold her up as feminist example 101?
[30/12/2014, 7:49:38 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: of course!
[30/12/2014, 7:49:45 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: SCUM was rumored to be the  society for cutting up men 
[30/12/2014, 7:49:47 PM] Athena Hollow: kind of like "angry redhead at rally"
[30/12/2014, 7:49:57 PM] Athena Hollow: (even though context is so fucking important)
[30/12/2014, 7:50:21 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah i feel bad for that woman :\
[30/12/2014, 7:50:38 PM] Athena Hollow: people are assholes & will do whatever they can to make the rational opposition look horrible.
[30/12/2014, 7:50:47 PM] Athena Hollow: push someone enough times eventually they'll hit back.
[30/12/2014, 7:50:52 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: the author that was speaking there
[30/12/2014, 7:50:52 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: was so totally batshit
[30/12/2014, 7:50:55 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i dont know how much you knew about it
[30/12/2014, 7:50:55 PM] Athena Hollow: doesn't mean that they are unhinged.
[30/12/2014, 7:51:16 PM] Athena Hollow: I've read about it and seen the vid.
[30/12/2014, 7:51:19 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: he compared men buying a date dinner and her not putting out to trauma on the level of date rape
[30/12/2014, 7:51:22 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: its just like
[30/12/2014, 7:51:22 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: what
[30/12/2014, 7:51:23 PM] Athena Hollow: ugh.
[30/12/2014, 7:51:28 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: "date fraud"
[30/12/2014, 7:51:31 PM] Athena Hollow: ...
[30/12/2014, 7:51:41 PM] Athena Hollow: that's a dude that needs to never get laid.
[30/12/2014, 7:52:31 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: the idea that sex is not some transaction is like
[30/12/2014, 7:52:39 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: completely and fundamentally foreign to them
[30/12/2014, 7:52:48 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: see white knighting, etc
[30/12/2014, 7:53:25 PM] Athena Hollow: yep
[30/12/2014, 7:53:32 PM] Athena Hollow: even when you're gay, you're still trying to get in her pants.
[30/12/2014, 7:54:21 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: treat women like people, it's not hard. it also has the nice side effect of occasionally getting you laid!
[30/12/2014, 7:54:24 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: but
[30/12/2014, 7:54:26 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: they don't need that
[30/12/2014, 7:54:29 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: with their VR sex bots
[30/12/2014, 7:54:29 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: rofl
[30/12/2014, 7:54:44 PM] Athena Hollow: LMAO
[30/12/2014, 7:54:52 PM] Athena Hollow: god if fucking only.
[30/12/2014, 7:54:58 PM] Athena Hollow: Can we make this a priority?
[30/12/2014, 7:55:05 PM] Athena Hollow: Sex bots for these MGTOWs.
[30/12/2014, 7:55:11 PM] Athena Hollow: Because for reals, I wouldn't cry.
[30/12/2014, 7:57:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Every time I see "SCUM Manifesto" I think "documentation for the Maniac Mansion engine."
[30/12/2014, 7:57:30 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 7:59:27 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/549897524891246592
[30/12/2014, 8:15:40 PM] Remy: sometimes you have to just rub your face against a bunny  no matter how much it pisses him off
[30/12/2014, 8:15:56 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 8:16:13 PM] Remy: When he gets super chuffed he'll make like a honking sound
[30/12/2014, 8:16:16 PM] Athena Hollow: One of my cats HATES being held, and I pick him up and hold him all the time.
[30/12/2014, 8:16:28 PM] Remy: omg so it's not just Winston then
[30/12/2014, 8:16:30 PM] Athena Hollow: and make him sit there, on his back, until he gives me kisses LOL
[30/12/2014, 8:16:35 PM] Remy: He can't stand being held
[30/12/2014, 8:16:48 PM] Athena Hollow: Cake loves it though. They are so different XD
[30/12/2014, 8:16:50 PM] Remy: And I've been doing it a lot this week 'cause stress so he's just been sooooo pissy and paranoid around me
[30/12/2014, 8:16:59 PM] Remy: Like if I even look at him he'll run back to his room
[30/12/2014, 8:17:41 PM] Remy: Bunnies get, like, hypnotized if you lay them on their back
[30/12/2014, 8:17:47 PM] Athena Hollow: haha
[30/12/2014, 8:18:04 PM] Remy: I think it alters the blood flow to their brains. It seems to make them totes uncomfortable but it's necessary when you're clipping their nails if they're kicking a fit
[30/12/2014, 8:18:32 PM] Remy: But yeah they basically just stop moving around and just lay there huffing
[30/12/2014, 8:19:20 PM] Remy: So I don't like to do it except when absolutely required. Gosh I'm going way too into detail about this rabbit
[30/12/2014, 8:19:29 PM] Remy: He's sickeningly cute tho
[30/12/2014, 8:19:43 PM] Athena Hollow: haha
[30/12/2014, 8:20:14 PM] Athena Hollow: i always wanted bunnies, but never got one -_-
[30/12/2014, 8:20:28 PM] Athena Hollow: I think I'm gonna get a guinea pig next though since they apparently socialize with kitties sometimes
[30/12/2014, 8:20:39 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm at dinner. Will take a photo once it arrives
[30/12/2014, 8:20:51 PM] Remy: Eric got him to fight off depression while I was deployed. His parents thought he was going to keep the rabbit in a hutch outside.
[30/12/2014, 8:21:26 PM] Remy: He was like "fuck no, this is my rabbit and I will be able to pet him when I want to, he's staying in a cage in my room"
[30/12/2014, 8:21:35 PM] Remy: And he would let him out when supervised and stuff
[30/12/2014, 8:22:07 PM] Remy: Guinea pigs are so cute Athena
[30/12/2014, 8:22:21 PM] Remy: They pair up well with bunnies and cats or so I hear
[30/12/2014, 8:22:30 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i want sugar gliderssss
[30/12/2014, 8:22:32 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 8:22:33 PM] Remy: <3
[30/12/2014, 8:22:47 PM] Remy: In middle school my little sister got it in her head that she was gonna get a sugar glider
[30/12/2014, 8:22:56 PM] Remy: I think she read they were something-hundred dollars and saved up for a good long while
[30/12/2014, 8:23:47 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah they're not cheap
[30/12/2014, 8:24:21 PM] Remy: I wish Scrivener wasn't so expensive
[30/12/2014, 8:24:30 PM] Ian Cheong: Wow for Christmas my folks got me a tobacco pipe
[30/12/2014, 8:24:35 PM] Ian Cheong: Yaaaaaaaay
[30/12/2014, 8:24:36 PM] Remy: wow
[30/12/2014, 8:24:42 PM] Remy: Do you like the design?
[30/12/2014, 8:24:47 PM] Remy: That's such a thoughtful gift
[30/12/2014, 8:24:52 PM] Ian Cheong: I just got it
[30/12/2014, 8:25:39 PM] Athena Hollow: awesome!
[30/12/2014, 8:28:00 PM] Remy: ohey I got paid
[30/12/2014, 8:28:05 PM] Remy: In two parts, that's weird
[30/12/2014, 8:31:57 PM] Remy: Anybody in here use/enjoy Scrivener?
[30/12/2014, 8:33:53 PM] Remy: I'm being silly
[30/12/2014, 8:34:10 PM] Athena Hollow: I ... actually have no idea what that is LOL
[30/12/2014, 8:34:13 PM] Remy: So maybe that's what he meant when he said he was going to upload a photo, maybe we'll get to see the pipe soon
[30/12/2014, 8:34:45 PM] Remy: Oh it's a word processor that's, like... highly adaptable to multiple formats and let's you categorize and organize all of your research and extra notes and shit
[30/12/2014, 8:34:57 PM] Athena Hollow: oh cool!
[30/12/2014, 8:35:30 PM] Remy: I used a friend's copy once and now I think I want it
[30/12/2014, 8:35:35 PM] Remy: But it's like $50
[30/12/2014, 8:37:34 PM] Remy: fuck there are like no games coming out on PS4
[30/12/2014, 8:37:52 PM] Athena Hollow: not regretting one bit going full pc LOL
[30/12/2014, 8:37:56 PM] Remy: Just The Witcher and a bunch of ports
[30/12/2014, 8:38:41 PM] Remy: I can't handle all of the junk that comes with PC. The modifications, the specifications, the extra parts, the bells and whistles, and in the end, the weirdly phrased errors and bugs that you have to go research on some vague forum or with unhelpful customer service reps
[30/12/2014, 8:39:09 PM] Athena Hollow: hahaha years of building them has set me up good on that :D
[30/12/2014, 8:39:18 PM] Remy: The future of gaming is in Shinra (or similar models)
[30/12/2014, 8:39:26 PM] Remy: I want to build my own competitor if I ever become rich enough
[30/12/2014, 8:40:00 PM] Remy: All of the game's data and processing handled on a central unit, a high-end supercomputer, with only the input and output streamed to and from the consumer.
[30/12/2014, 8:40:24 PM] Remy: Developers can push the limits of their products while testing and performing in the same conditions they create in.
[30/12/2014, 8:40:46 PM] Remy: Pirating will be done away with because in order to successfully pirate the game they would have to recreate the supercomputer and hire a team of specialists to run it
[30/12/2014, 8:41:09 PM] Remy: And since it would require steady online access you could justify using a Netflix-like subscription service, guaranteeing a steady stream of income from all users
[30/12/2014, 8:41:27 PM] live:riotarms: But but input lag
[30/12/2014, 8:41:50 PM] Remy: That's why you reduce that data to nothing but the controller input and video/audio output
[30/12/2014, 8:42:12 PM] Remy: But I also believe everyone needs to invest in a better information infrastructure
[30/12/2014, 8:42:21 PM] Remy: Like, cities need wifi and shit
[30/12/2014, 8:42:51 PM] live:riotarms: If this Christmas left me wanting anything it's less dependence on online
[30/12/2014, 8:42:58 PM] Remy: A personal ISP should be an extravagant luxury
[30/12/2014, 8:43:11 PM] Remy: agreed
[30/12/2014, 8:43:31 PM] live:riotarms: I was stuck at a specific GTA mission because I couldn't access the player stock market
[30/12/2014, 8:44:03 PM] Athena Hollow: yuck
[30/12/2014, 8:44:43 PM] live:riotarms: And yeah GTA is f-u-c-k-e-d
[30/12/2014, 8:45:15 PM] Remy: Is it glitchy?
[30/12/2014, 8:45:51 PM] live:riotarms: It's a well written game that was then stuffed with weird sexism at every level
[30/12/2014, 8:46:21 PM] Remy: Have you played Watch_Dogs?
[30/12/2014, 8:46:32 PM] live:riotarms: Like they had this amazing three protagonist approach to the GTA character issue
[30/12/2014, 8:46:42 PM] Remy: I was playing the drinking mini-game and had to listen to the customer next to me describe physically assaulting his girlfriend for mouthing off to him.
[30/12/2014, 8:46:53 PM] Remy: His dialogue was on a repeat so I got to hear it like 47 times
[30/12/2014, 8:47:17 PM] live:riotarms: That contemplates the issue of giving a GTA protagonist morals, how that affects player choices in the game world
[30/12/2014, 8:47:46 PM] live:riotarms: Then they filled every available space with weak shots at feminism
[30/12/2014, 8:48:18 PM] live:riotarms: There are also transphobic shots in the easter eggs (like, two easter eggs)
[30/12/2014, 8:48:59 PM] live:riotarms: It'd be a better game with more sojus for sure
[30/12/2014, 8:49:22 PM] live:riotarms: That watch dogs thing sounds awful
[30/12/2014, 8:49:53 PM] Remy: Every Ubisoft game is basically filled with the most randomly inserted sexist shit
[30/12/2014, 8:49:58 PM] Remy: Far Cry 4 I picked up a tampon
[30/12/2014, 8:50:06 PM] Remy: As like gag loot
[30/12/2014, 8:50:21 PM] Remy: "eew girls are gross" get it?
[30/12/2014, 8:50:28 PM] live:riotarms: Glad I gave that a miss then
[30/12/2014, 8:51:04 PM] Remy: Yeah I keep saying I'm done with Ubisoft games. I guess I really needed a distracted when FC4 came out and I wanted to see if they did Ajay any justice, but now I'm convinced that Ubisoft can go suck eggs
[30/12/2014, 8:51:07 PM] live:riotarms: Ubi make the most boring shit that sucks all the air out of the market
[30/12/2014, 8:51:13 PM] live:riotarms: Gaming weeds
[30/12/2014, 8:51:24 PM] Remy: Not as bad as COD
[30/12/2014, 8:51:39 PM] Remy: And BattleField 1-infinite
[30/12/2014, 8:51:45 PM] live:riotarms: I miss having more games with greater genre diversity
[30/12/2014, 8:52:02 PM] Remy: Yup
[30/12/2014, 8:52:13 PM] live:riotarms: PS4 is so dull right now the most fun I've had with it in a month is GTA V
[30/12/2014, 8:52:14 PM] Remy: Although with the new breakout of indy games it's really just a matter of finding them now
[30/12/2014, 8:52:21 PM] Remy: Agreed.
[30/12/2014, 8:52:32 PM] Athena Hollow: STOP STIFLING THE DEVELOPERS CREATIVE RIGHTS. GOSH.
[30/12/2014, 8:52:34 PM] Remy: Oh hey did you wanna be PS4 buddies?
[30/12/2014, 8:52:47 PM] Remy: Just decide on your own time
[30/12/2014, 8:52:52 PM] Remy: My PSN is MaestroVolpe
[30/12/2014, 8:53:17 PM] Remy: Just tell me you're from the Illuminati in your add request so I know you're cool
[30/12/2014, 8:53:17 PM] live:riotarms: I'm taking a loooooong ass break from the online but I'll give that some thought
[30/12/2014, 8:53:36 PM] Remy: nbd
[30/12/2014, 8:54:16 PM] live:riotarms: My destiny crew became huge racists and it upset me enough that I decided to stay off destiny for a quarter
[30/12/2014, 8:54:25 PM] Remy: omg
[30/12/2014, 8:54:31 PM] Remy: the same thing happened to me with Warframe
[30/12/2014, 8:54:34 PM] live:riotarms: I got pretty badly addicted, too
[30/12/2014, 8:55:18 PM] live:riotarms: The night I decided I was gonna just block them all they dragged my level 27 warlock through the raid and I got my second mythoclast
[30/12/2014, 8:55:42 PM] live:riotarms: All the level 30s got junk drops
[30/12/2014, 8:56:05 PM] live:riotarms: So they were kind to me but it was all kinds of awful
[30/12/2014, 8:57:01 PM] live:riotarms: Young Scots guys with dumb prejudices
[30/12/2014, 8:58:48 PM] Athena Hollow: Athena Hollow glomps charlotte
[30/12/2014, 9:03:39 PM] Remy: I'm gonna get some rest
[30/12/2014, 9:03:46 PM] Remy: Love all y'all <3
[30/12/2014, 9:03:58 PM] live:riotarms: See ya
[30/12/2014, 9:08:13 PM] Athena Hollow: <3 night hun
[30/12/2014, 9:09:41 PM] Athena Hollow: 3+
[30/12/2014, 9:09:47 PM] Athena Hollow: damn cat lol
[30/12/2014, 9:13:57 PM] Ian Cheong: I tweeted my dinner.
[30/12/2014, 9:14:11 PM] Ian Cheong: I'll tweet my Christmas gift when I get home
[30/12/2014, 9:14:59 PM] live:riotarms: Does anyone else here have Japanese PSN
[30/12/2014, 9:18:36 PM] Ian Cheong: Nawp
[30/12/2014, 9:19:09 PM] live:riotarms: It's so weird, the latest PS4 release is... emulated scramble?
[30/12/2014, 9:19:19 PM] live:riotarms: And arcade Goemon
[30/12/2014, 9:19:50 PM] live:riotarms: They've got a little MAME style section that's a good quarter of available titles
[30/12/2014, 9:30:58 PM] live:riotarms: Oh nice Xevious 3D/G got rated in America
[30/12/2014, 9:31:14 PM] live:riotarms: Xevious 3D/G - Longplay PT1: http://youtu.be/paqYUTMsGRA
[30/12/2014, 9:31:41 PM] live:riotarms: That's exactly how I imagined 3D becoming in 1995
[30/12/2014, 9:32:17 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: rofl ian
[30/12/2014, 9:32:18 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: some gger
[30/12/2014, 9:32:22 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: came into my mentions
[30/12/2014, 9:32:26 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: implying you fabricated the email
[30/12/2014, 9:32:30 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: because there was no screenshot
[30/12/2014, 9:32:30 PM] Athena Hollow: LMAO
[30/12/2014, 9:32:36 PM] Athena Hollow: XD
[30/12/2014, 9:32:50 PM] Athena Hollow: Nevermind that they've shared PROVEN FAKE SCREENSHOTS so that doesn't matter either
[30/12/2014, 9:33:19 PM] live:riotarms: What are they fabricating now
[30/12/2014, 9:33:30 PM] Athena Hollow: http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/25839/article/bandai-namco-speaks-out-against-gamergate-harassment/
[30/12/2014, 9:33:50 PM] live:riotarms: Ethicssssssss
[30/12/2014, 9:34:26 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah Ian emailed them after he read the form mail sent to GG, and asked them to clarify because it was being used as a "WE'RE WINNING!" statement
[30/12/2014, 9:34:36 PM] Athena Hollow: and a handful of hours later, they'd gotten back to him LOL
[30/12/2014, 9:35:01 PM] live:riotarms: They need to stop using consumer support emails as "proof"
[30/12/2014, 9:35:32 PM] live:riotarms: B/C that's some underpaid contact centre worker trying to appease them
[30/12/2014, 9:35:36 PM] Athena Hollow: Well to be fair, the shit email they sent out in the first place, was, well, shit. Saying they don't get involved in "internet controversies"
[30/12/2014, 9:35:44 PM] Athena Hollow: but it's more than just some pissing match
[30/12/2014, 9:36:06 PM] Athena Hollow: This isn't "Who's better? Beiber or One Direction".
[30/12/2014, 9:36:21 PM] Athena Hollow: But I was glad to see them say "Yeah, no, totally don't support gamergate"
[30/12/2014, 9:36:37 PM] live:riotarms: LOL remember when Zoe proved this was conclusively horseshit in September and it looked like it might be over for a minute
[30/12/2014, 9:36:56 PM] Athena Hollow: That was the moment we all realized these people didn't inhabit reality.
[30/12/2014, 9:36:59 PM] live:riotarms: These email farms... They're indoctrination centres
[30/12/2014, 9:37:05 PM] live:riotarms: Yes exactly
[30/12/2014, 9:37:16 PM] live:riotarms: Reality is a SJW conspiracy!
[30/12/2014, 9:37:18 PM] Athena Hollow: Because it SHOULD have been over then.
[30/12/2014, 9:37:29 PM] live:riotarms: Keep emailing Morpheus
[30/12/2014, 9:37:31 PM] Athena Hollow: But no, they STILL BRING THIS PROVABLE BULLSHIT STUFF UP ugh
[30/12/2014, 9:37:33 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahaha
[30/12/2014, 9:38:17 PM] live:riotarms: Fuck it, buying Japanese credit so I can play Xevious 3D a week early
[30/12/2014, 9:39:00 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 9:42:32 PM] live:riotarms: Hey if you want to laugh
[30/12/2014, 9:42:36 PM] live:riotarms: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion/Cultural_Marxism_(2nd_nomination)
[30/12/2014, 9:43:18 PM] live:riotarms: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qslr8/wikipedia_deletes_the_cultural_marxism_article/
[30/12/2014, 9:48:33 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/549924970487230464 wtf
[30/12/2014, 9:49:11 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahaha I saw that last night when I (regrettably) combed through some of the comments.
[30/12/2014, 9:49:20 PM] Athena Hollow: and about fucking died when I saw "colored people"
[30/12/2014, 9:49:21 PM] live:riotarms: Get off the fucking stage gamergate
[30/12/2014, 9:49:34 PM] Athena Hollow: HELLO SIR. IS THE YEAR STILL 1935?
[30/12/2014, 9:49:44 PM] Athena Hollow: I NEED TO KNOW IF YOU SERVE COLORED PEOPLE AT THIS DINER.
[30/12/2014, 9:49:51 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: rofl D:
[30/12/2014, 9:51:08 PM] live:riotarms: Didn't they use seperate but equal as a slogan at one point
[30/12/2014, 9:51:20 PM] live:riotarms: Did I hallucinate that
[30/12/2014, 9:54:22 PM] Athena Hollow: Don't remember but wouldn't be shocking.
[30/12/2014, 9:54:33 PM] Athena Hollow: The "Dyed hair, beware" is based on racist bullshit if I recall.
[30/12/2014, 9:56:18 PM] live:riotarms: Apparently Milo got on the radio 4 women's hour today
[30/12/2014, 9:56:23 PM] live:riotarms: Ugh
[30/12/2014, 9:56:31 PM] Athena Hollow: ew
[30/12/2014, 9:56:34 PM] Athena Hollow: he hates women
[30/12/2014, 9:56:36 PM] live:riotarms: He's such a Nathan Barley
[30/12/2014, 9:56:36 PM] Athena Hollow: how did that happen
[30/12/2014, 9:56:55 PM] Athena Hollow: And I mean, not just "girls are icky" hates, but literally hates women.
[30/12/2014, 9:57:01 PM] live:riotarms: Media connections or a sadistic producer I guess
[30/12/2014, 9:57:19 PM] Athena Hollow: when I finally build my volcano catapult, he'll be the test run.
[30/12/2014, 9:57:25 PM] live:riotarms: That's not true! He flies to Germany to buy Maria Carey albums!
[30/12/2014, 9:57:36 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 9:57:48 PM] Athena Hollow: Did you see his fawning over Nick Denton before gamergate posts?
[30/12/2014, 9:57:51 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahhahaha
[30/12/2014, 9:58:01 PM] live:riotarms: I have an ember of sympathy for him
[30/12/2014, 9:58:15 PM] live:riotarms: Whatever lies behind that facade hates itself
[30/12/2014, 9:58:27 PM] live:riotarms: But, only an ember because he's Milo
[30/12/2014, 9:58:48 PM] live:riotarms: And yeah, the Denton thing
[30/12/2014, 9:58:52 PM] Athena Hollow: I'm still 100% convinced his "That is messed up" comment about Brennan writing for Daily Stormer is about PR and not because he gives a shit.
[30/12/2014, 9:59:18 PM] Athena Hollow: I've been saying since he announced his book that the way it would end would be him being the victor and gamergate being the bad guys.
[30/12/2014, 9:59:26 PM] Athena Hollow: because it's the only way Milo can come out on top in this.
[30/12/2014, 9:59:46 PM] live:riotarms: He's destroyed his career over here
[30/12/2014, 10:00:06 PM] live:riotarms: I dunno if you read about how he tanked the kernel
[30/12/2014, 10:00:13 PM] Athena Hollow: After realizing that he's got a cult that won't leave him the fuck alone now, he's consistently pushed the boundaries of how far he can go with them without them lashing out.
[30/12/2014, 10:00:19 PM] Athena Hollow: Sadly, yes.
[30/12/2014, 10:00:22 PM] live:riotarms: He's radioactive, not toxic
[30/12/2014, 10:00:25 PM] Athena Hollow: heh
[30/12/2014, 10:00:34 PM] Athena Hollow: He's a self-important schlub.
[30/12/2014, 10:01:10 PM] Athena Hollow: And a drama queen to boot.
[30/12/2014, 10:02:18 PM] live:riotarms: Man, you know, he probably sympathises with Brennan writing for the stormer
[30/12/2014, 10:02:18 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: On 30/12/2014, at 9:58 PM, AcidBurn (@athenahollow) wrote:
> I'm still 100% convinced his "That is messed up" comment about Brennan writing for Daily Stormer is about PR and not because he gives a shit.
i honestly think he's afraid of his racist past coming back to haunt him if there's any hint of him supporting racist stuff
[30/12/2014, 10:02:37 PM] Athena Hollow: past? shit was only 2 years ago LOL
[30/12/2014, 10:02:53 PM] Athena Hollow: I bet I could track down shit he's written on Breitbart since then that still paints him as a nazi sympathizer XD
[30/12/2014, 10:02:54 PM] live:riotarms: He wrote about how he hates being gay and doesn't want any more gay kids
[30/12/2014, 10:03:26 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: well the tweet was two years old, wasn't calling himself wagner/etc from years and years ago?
[30/12/2014, 10:03:39 PM] live:riotarms: I think Brennan needs to be stopped but I can't even imagine what his life is like
[30/12/2014, 10:03:42 PM] Ian Cheong: I took a picture of my christmas gift
[30/12/2014, 10:03:44 PM] Ian Cheong: its on twitter
[30/12/2014, 10:03:48 PM] Ian Cheong: and me smoking it
[30/12/2014, 10:03:54 PM] live:riotarms: He was Wagner during his poet years
[30/12/2014, 10:04:00 PM] live:riotarms: That's a nice pipe man
[30/12/2014, 10:04:20 PM] Athena Hollow: it looked really spiffy :D
[30/12/2014, 10:05:04 PM] Ian Cheong: i look so silly with the pipe in the middle of my mouth
[30/12/2014, 10:05:06 PM] Ian Cheong: i need to move it to the side
[30/12/2014, 10:05:11 PM] Athena Hollow: haha
[30/12/2014, 10:06:24 PM] Athena Hollow: but yeah, the fact that he says wearing an iron cross associated with nazism, while supposedly being jewish (I don't know if he is or not or it's another lie) is "campy" but not "compromising"
[30/12/2014, 10:07:00 PM] Ian Cheong: pipe smoking is badass.
[30/12/2014, 10:07:37 PM] Athena Hollow: And yeah, I can't imagine living Brennan's life, but ffs, he's a goddamn kid. He's barely 20. Apparently he either had shitty parenting or something, but while he should know better Milo is well into adulthood & there's zero excuse for his bullshit. Probably lots of reasons, but no excuses.
[30/12/2014, 10:08:02 PM] Athena Hollow: Brennan is a perfect example of "this is what is wrong with youth & chan culture"
[30/12/2014, 10:08:30 PM] Athena Hollow: He's of the perfect age to pretty much never not had internet access since he was old enough to use a computer by himself.
[30/12/2014, 10:09:42 PM] live:riotarms: Brennan ain't gonna live long and he can't live well :(
[30/12/2014, 10:09:56 PM] live:riotarms: But that's no excuse for a lack of empathy imo
[30/12/2014, 10:09:57 PM] Ian Cheong: No excuse to be a jerkass.
[30/12/2014, 10:10:17 PM] Ian Cheong: http://www.dailystormer.com/hotwheels-why-i-support-eugenics/
[30/12/2014, 10:10:20 PM] live:riotarms: As a dude with CP I loathe how GG have used the disabled
[30/12/2014, 10:10:29 PM] live:riotarms: Literal. Nazis.
[30/12/2014, 10:10:46 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: "a dude with CP" sounds completely different in an 8chan context x-x
[30/12/2014, 10:10:54 PM] live:riotarms: CP - cerebal palsy, not CP
[30/12/2014, 10:11:03 PM] live:riotarms: Hahaha fuck acronyms
[30/12/2014, 10:11:04 PM] Athena Hollow: yep. LOL
[30/12/2014, 10:11:06 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i figured haha
[30/12/2014, 10:11:17 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: ick james did you see that recent image re: hotwheels
[30/12/2014, 10:11:20 PM] Athena Hollow: He fucking said "Well nowhere else would publish it!"
[30/12/2014, 10:11:26 PM] Athena Hollow: ... he literally owns his own website.
[30/12/2014, 10:11:29 PM] Athena Hollow: he knows how to do this.
[30/12/2014, 10:11:37 PM] Athena Hollow: 'BUT NOWHERE ELSE WOULD PUBLISH IT'
[30/12/2014, 10:11:38 PM] live:riotarms: I have the same problem when  I tell Americans CBT cured my anxiety :)
[30/12/2014, 10:11:45 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: haha
[30/12/2014, 10:11:47 PM] Athena Hollow: spits drink
[30/12/2014, 10:11:49 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahahahahaha
[30/12/2014, 10:11:51 PM] live:riotarms: I did and I never want to see it again
[30/12/2014, 10:14:24 PM] live:riotarms: Oh damn the weird Galaxian rail shooter is on JPSN
[30/12/2014, 10:14:50 PM] live:riotarms: Ignore me if I'm babbling here but the JPSN store is next level for retro
[30/12/2014, 10:15:06 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 10:16:01 PM] live:riotarms: Really sucks I can't read or understand any Japanese
[30/12/2014, 10:16:07 PM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/Wyldawen/status/549926796804624385
[30/12/2014, 10:16:10 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL this is awesome.
[30/12/2014, 10:17:53 PM] Ian Cheong: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6FNsQdCQAA8a-D.png:large
[30/12/2014, 10:18:22 PM] Athena Hollow: ... whut is this lol\
[30/12/2014, 10:18:27 PM] Ian Cheong: Scroguard
[30/12/2014, 10:18:30 PM] Ian Cheong: protects more than just your dick
[30/12/2014, 10:18:31 PM] live:riotarms: http://static2.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_tiny/box/9/1/4/9/12161-39149.jpg
[30/12/2014, 10:19:07 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL I googled it & a huffpo article starts with "This might be the best form of birth control to hit the market yet -- because nobody will have sex with you if you wear it."
[30/12/2014, 10:19:41 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptQZ0C6RixE#t=705 rofl watch for 5 seconds
[30/12/2014, 10:19:49 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: haha athena
[30/12/2014, 10:20:38 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: he reminds me of group x
[30/12/2014, 10:20:46 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: SCHWON DU
[30/12/2014, 10:20:54 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: schfifty five
[30/12/2014, 10:21:06 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL WTH IS THIS SARAH hahahaha
[30/12/2014, 10:21:16 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: he made a few videos about me before xED
[30/12/2014, 10:21:18 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: hes so weird
[30/12/2014, 10:21:30 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 10:21:33 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: let me find the first one athena
[30/12/2014, 10:21:35 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: is just
[30/12/2014, 10:21:36 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: so wtf
[30/12/2014, 10:21:39 PM] Ian Cheong: this guy is great.
[30/12/2014, 10:21:51 PM] Athena Hollow: this guy has to be a fucking parody lol
[30/12/2014, 10:24:24 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKk9ilOMAAY <-- athena
[30/12/2014, 10:24:40 PM] Ian Cheong: oh its not ItalyGG
[30/12/2014, 10:24:42 PM] Ian Cheong: but close
[30/12/2014, 10:24:47 PM] Ian Cheong: @prestariumretar
[30/12/2014, 10:24:49 PM] Ian Cheong: apparently?
[30/12/2014, 10:25:01 PM] Ian Cheong: i got confused and thought it was italyGG because of the stuff TB was saying on the channel
[30/12/2014, 10:25:03 PM] Athena Hollow: Speaking of ItalyGG: https://twitter.com/ItalyGG/status/549406495075758081
[30/12/2014, 10:25:18 PM] Ian Cheong: oh dear.
[30/12/2014, 10:25:37 PM] Athena Hollow: ohhhhhh prestariumretar......... the one with the really really gross Viv avatar.
[30/12/2014, 10:27:59 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i love how the guy
[30/12/2014, 10:28:00 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: is using like
[30/12/2014, 10:28:02 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: windows 95
[30/12/2014, 10:28:04 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: or some shit
[30/12/2014, 10:29:39 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 10:37:57 PM] Ian Cheong: happy smokers.
[30/12/2014, 10:37:58 PM] Ian Cheong: https://www.reddit.com/r/PipeTobacco/comments/2qp4ad/why_did_you_start/
[30/12/2014, 10:40:56 PM] Ian Cheong: it's a cute thread
[30/12/2014, 10:42:27 PM] Ian Cheong: it's intersting how many of them got into it by smoking cigars first
[30/12/2014, 10:42:35 PM] Ian Cheong: and then decided, hey, cigars cost too damn much
[30/12/2014, 10:42:39 PM] Ian Cheong: (they do)
[30/12/2014, 10:42:53 PM] Ian Cheong: one cigar can get you like 10 bowls of pipe.
[30/12/2014, 11:02:21 PM] Ian Cheong: http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend/1506/dan-tobacco-sweet-vanilla-honeydew
[30/12/2014, 11:02:49 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/549943448560619520 well that didn't take long
[30/12/2014, 11:03:20 PM] Ian Cheong: moltar is pretty bad
[30/12/2014, 11:10:13 PM] live:riotarms: Not sure but I think I just bought Rival Schools
[30/12/2014, 11:16:41 PM] Rob: Hi, folks
[30/12/2014, 11:16:54 PM] Athena Hollow: hey rob
[30/12/2014, 11:17:00 PM] Rob: I'm sitting in LA. Yay
[30/12/2014, 11:17:07 PM] Athena Hollow: heh
[30/12/2014, 11:17:28 PM] Rob: I have about 90 minutes until my next flight
[30/12/2014, 11:17:49 PM] Rob: And my terminal is crowded b/c there's a flight for Newark boarding first. Luckily, that mean these people will be gone in like 15 minutes and then I can steal a power outlet.
[30/12/2014, 11:21:06 PM] Charloppe: I have a gator telling me that mocking a trans girls death is mearly dark humor
[30/12/2014, 11:21:17 PM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/lbsasquatch/status/549947531107786752
[30/12/2014, 11:21:26 PM] Athena Hollow: someone set this person's modem on fire.
[30/12/2014, 11:21:32 PM] Charloppe: FFFFFFFFFFFF
[30/12/2014, 11:21:42 PM] Charloppe: I have so much anger right now
[30/12/2014, 11:21:56 PM] Ian Cheong: What's wrong
[30/12/2014, 11:21:58 PM] Rob: So what happened?
[30/12/2014, 11:21:59 PM] Ian Cheong: oh
[30/12/2014, 11:22:02 PM] Ian Cheong: that shit
[30/12/2014, 11:22:04 PM] Ian Cheong: yeah
[30/12/2014, 11:22:08 PM] Rob: A trans woman killed herself?
[30/12/2014, 11:22:14 PM] Ian Cheong: a trans girl killed herself
[30/12/2014, 11:22:16 PM] Ian Cheong: she was 17
[30/12/2014, 11:22:31 PM] Rob: Jesus fucking Christ.
[30/12/2014, 11:22:35 PM] Rob: 17?
[30/12/2014, 11:22:47 PM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/549947887019634688
[30/12/2014, 11:22:49 PM] Charloppe: yes
[30/12/2014, 11:22:56 PM] Athena Hollow: walked in front of traffic :-/
[30/12/2014, 11:23:01 PM] Athena Hollow: and her fucking parents are terrible.
[30/12/2014, 11:23:05 PM] Athena Hollow: seriously, fuck them.
[30/12/2014, 11:23:11 PM] Rob: jesus christ
[30/12/2014, 11:23:25 PM] Rob: Was she tied to being against GG in any way
[30/12/2014, 11:23:32 PM] Rob: or is GG just going like LOLOL TARGET OF OPPORTUNITY LOLOL
[30/12/2014, 11:23:41 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Athena: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549948850765443073
[30/12/2014, 11:23:53 PM] Athena Hollow: Brianna brought up that transphobia needed to be addressed in gaming
[30/12/2014, 11:23:57 PM] Athena Hollow: so GG inserted themselves.
[30/12/2014, 11:24:02 PM] Charloppe: also me bringing this up means I obviously support suicide
[30/12/2014, 11:24:06 PM] Athena Hollow: much like their bullshit with 8chan that didn't bring them up at all.
[30/12/2014, 11:24:53 PM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/549946206731116544
[30/12/2014, 11:25:40 PM] Ian Cheong: is this guy a gamergater
[30/12/2014, 11:25:41 PM] Ian Cheong: look at his tie
[30/12/2014, 11:25:42 PM] Ian Cheong: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/steve-scalise-white-supremacy-group-reaction-113872.html
[30/12/2014, 11:25:59 PM] Athena Hollow: They are fucking trashy, charlotte.
[30/12/2014, 11:26:20 PM] Athena Hollow: No one has said GG caused this. EVERYONE has said "The transphobic shit gg says is the problem"
[30/12/2014, 11:27:47 PM] Charloppe: this is the shit I get whenever my trans status gets involved in gaming. Yet there is no problems. Just jokes, ppl in the gaming community are sooooo accepting
[30/12/2014, 11:28:24 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Is this a GGer?: https://twitter.com/PottyMouthGamer
[30/12/2014, 11:28:27 PM] Rob: So does anyone know - do duty free stores actually sell booze for cheaper?
[30/12/2014, 11:28:36 PM] Rob: b/c they're finally letting domestic passengers shop in them
[30/12/2014, 11:29:17 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: izzy: they're gg leaning neutral afaik
[30/12/2014, 11:29:40 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: rob: depends on the location and what fees they're exempt from
[30/12/2014, 11:30:31 PM] Rob: Hmmmmm
[30/12/2014, 11:30:46 PM] Athena Hollow: Well I Have them blocked so ......
[30/12/2014, 11:30:59 PM] Rob: I guess I can stop in and check
[30/12/2014, 11:31:12 PM] Ian Cheong: do it rob
[30/12/2014, 11:31:20 PM] Ian Cheong: i bet you can get it for cheap(er) than usual
[30/12/2014, 11:31:25 PM] Rob: VA prices are fucking awful too
[30/12/2014, 11:31:37 PM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/549950860399493121
[30/12/2014, 11:31:41 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: in europe things like VAT aren't added in duty free places. in the US, usually all you're getting is imported stuff w/o excise fees
[30/12/2014, 11:31:41 PM] Rob: I guess I can swing in if it's on the way. That or I'll stop by the liquor store on the way home.
[30/12/2014, 11:31:42 PM] Charloppe: why do I even bother
[30/12/2014, 11:31:51 PM] Rob: B/c I plan on spending all night tonight, all day tomorrow, and all day Thursday shitfaced.
[30/12/2014, 11:32:11 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts hugs charloppe :(
[30/12/2014, 11:32:23 PM] Rob: <# charlotte <3
[30/12/2014, 11:32:47 PM] Charloppe: I want to cry and punch someone
[30/12/2014, 11:37:45 PM] Rob: I'm sorry
[30/12/2014, 11:37:50 PM] Rob: I'm getting mean
[30/12/2014, 11:41:58 PM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/549953451011358720
[30/12/2014, 11:42:00 PM] Charloppe: WHY!?
[30/12/2014, 11:43:03 PM] Dina : oh my fucking god
[30/12/2014, 11:43:32 PM] Charloppe: and being called filth now
[30/12/2014, 11:43:35 PM] Dina : Charlotte I'm so sorry, stop looking at the hashtag for a second I beg you
[30/12/2014, 11:43:37 PM] Dina : fuck
[30/12/2014, 11:43:58 PM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/549953855111581696
[30/12/2014, 11:43:58 PM] Ian Cheong: Yes, please.
[30/12/2014, 11:44:04 PM] Charloppe: I cant let this fly
[30/12/2014, 11:44:06 PM] Charloppe: I refuse
[30/12/2014, 11:44:30 PM] Rob: Charlotte, you do what you gotta do, but your mental health is more important
[30/12/2014, 11:44:34 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup
[30/12/2014, 11:44:39 PM] Rob: I know I have like 7 hours to kill basically
[30/12/2014, 11:44:41 PM] Rob: and my flight has wifi
[30/12/2014, 11:44:44 PM] Rob: I'll fuck with these people for a while.
[30/12/2014, 11:44:49 PM] Rob: I'll draft Ian into it, too.
[30/12/2014, 11:44:52 PM] Ian Cheong: nooo
[30/12/2014, 11:44:54 PM] Ian Cheong: im going for a smoke
[30/12/2014, 11:44:56 PM] Rob: QUIET, SOLDIER
[30/12/2014, 11:44:58 PM] Rob: GET YOUR GEAR
[30/12/2014, 11:44:59 PM] Rob: WE DROP IN 20
[30/12/2014, 11:45:02 PM] Ian Cheong: hahaha no.
[30/12/2014, 11:45:08 PM] Ian Cheong: ive stopped arguing with gators
[30/12/2014, 11:45:14 PM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/athenahollow/status/549954306997514240
[30/12/2014, 11:45:16 PM] Athena Hollow: >_>
[30/12/2014, 11:46:32 PM] Dina : Athena took the words right out of my mouth
[30/12/2014, 11:46:38 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 11:46:52 PM] Annie Kelly: iya everyone
[30/12/2014, 11:47:01 PM] Athena Hollow: hey annie
[30/12/2014, 11:47:07 PM] Dina : hi Annie
[30/12/2014, 11:47:32 PM] Annie Kelly: sorry its been a long time since ive been on, been travelling and phding and that
[30/12/2014, 11:47:35 PM] Annie Kelly: what's new
[30/12/2014, 11:47:38 PM] Athena Hollow: all good :)
[30/12/2014, 11:48:09 PM] Dina : about to sit down and finally watch Chris Kluwe word-murder Cerno
[30/12/2014, 11:48:20 PM] Annie Kelly: omg you're in for a treat
[30/12/2014, 11:48:21 PM] Athena Hollow: amazeballs.
[30/12/2014, 11:48:33 PM] Dina : ps I did not know he was this hot
[30/12/2014, 11:48:34 PM] Annie Kelly: I told myself i'd stay for 10 mins and ended up watching the whole thing it was so satisfying
[30/12/2014, 11:48:36 PM] Rob: Hi annie <3
[30/12/2014, 11:48:39 PM] Athena Hollow: HAHAH right?!
[30/12/2014, 11:48:41 PM] Dina : Rob! <3
[30/12/2014, 11:48:43 PM] Annie Kelly: ha dina RIGHT??
[30/12/2014, 11:48:54 PM] Dina : Athena yeah I feel weird rooting for the hot guy tbh lol
[30/12/2014, 11:48:55 PM] Annie Kelly: He looks like Christian Bale imo
[30/12/2014, 11:49:01 PM] Athena Hollow: Chris is gonna come in & get a big ol head from all of us saying "God he's so fucking cute!"
[30/12/2014, 11:49:06 PM] Dina : yeaaah I totally see it but not douchey
[30/12/2014, 11:49:22 PM] Dina : Also did anyone else freak out at Cerno's voice??!?!?!
[30/12/2014, 11:49:28 PM] Dina : HE SOUNDS WEASLY
[30/12/2014, 11:49:29 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 11:49:32 PM] Athena Hollow: HE DOESSSSSSSSSS
[30/12/2014, 11:49:37 PM] Rob: Hi dina <3
[30/12/2014, 11:49:39 PM] Athena Hollow: super alpha bro voice there. yep.
[30/12/2014, 11:49:46 PM] Dina : I expected like a muscle head roar voice
[30/12/2014, 11:49:55 PM] Dina : like Ultimate Warrior
[30/12/2014, 11:49:59 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[30/12/2014, 11:50:03 PM] Annie Kelly: cerno's voice threw me for real
[30/12/2014, 11:50:10 PM] Annie Kelly: but it makes a lot of sense thinking about it
[30/12/2014, 11:50:13 PM] Athena Hollow: Like, I don't talk bad about people's looks... but he looked so pathetic.
[30/12/2014, 11:50:15 PM] Dina : how so?
[30/12/2014, 11:50:24 PM] Athena Hollow: like, not at all what you'd expect an "alpha" to look & sound like.
[30/12/2014, 11:50:31 PM] Athena Hollow: such false projection lol\
[30/12/2014, 11:50:32 PM] Rob: For a second I didn't realize you guys were still talking about the debate against cerno
[30/12/2014, 11:50:34 PM] Rob: so I was like
[30/12/2014, 11:50:36 PM] Dina : """""""alpha""""""""
[30/12/2014, 11:50:38 PM] Rob: WHY DO YOU FEEL WEIRD ROOTING FOR ME, DINA
[30/12/2014, 11:50:38 PM] Athena Hollow: LOLOL
[30/12/2014, 11:50:39 PM] Annie Kelly: just the whole compensatory macho alpha thing for having a pretty weedy sandler-esque tone
[30/12/2014, 11:50:41 PM] Rob: AND WHAT ARE YOU ROOTING FOR ME FOR
[30/12/2014, 11:50:44 PM] Annie Kelly: hahahaha
[30/12/2014, 11:50:47 PM] Rob: and then I was like oh, wait. chris!
[30/12/2014, 11:50:52 PM] Annie Kelly: we're always rooting for you rob <3
[30/12/2014, 11:50:53 PM] Dina : Rob I'm always rooting for your sexy butt <3
[30/12/2014, 11:50:56 PM] Rob: :D
[30/12/2014, 11:50:56 PM] Rob: <3
[30/12/2014, 11:51:04 PM] Annie Kelly: dina are we the same person
[30/12/2014, 11:51:10 PM] Annie Kelly: are you my sockpuppet
[30/12/2014, 11:51:10 PM] Rob: haha  <3
[30/12/2014, 11:51:26 PM] Dina : Annie I would be honored
[30/12/2014, 11:51:37 PM] Dina : please don't slide your hand up my ass
[30/12/2014, 11:51:41 PM] Dina : thank you <3
[30/12/2014, 11:51:42 PM] Rob: I still demand that everyone awesome come visit me in DC
[30/12/2014, 11:51:50 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[30/12/2014, 11:52:00 PM] Annie Kelly: is that where you live rob?
[30/12/2014, 11:53:12 PM] Rob: Yep
[30/12/2014, 11:53:20 PM] Annie Kelly: wooow
[30/12/2014, 11:53:28 PM] Rob: Well, Arlington, technically
[30/12/2014, 11:53:29 PM] Rob: but yeah, DC
[30/12/2014, 11:54:04 PM] Dina : Cerno is really really american
[30/12/2014, 11:54:11 PM] Dina : like what I imagine a shitty american is like
[30/12/2014, 11:54:19 PM] Athena Hollow: yep
[30/12/2014, 11:54:23 PM] Dina : like gun toting insane bible thumping american
[30/12/2014, 11:54:28 PM] Annie Kelly: my school took us there for a school trip. we were all a bunch of politics nerds obsessed with the west wing so it was like land of dreams for us haha
[30/12/2014, 11:55:05 PM] Annie Kelly: lol just wait for "YOU'RE A CULT! YOU'RE A CULT!!!" at the end
[30/12/2014, 11:55:16 PM] Dina : I can't wait
[30/12/2014, 11:55:26 PM] Annie Kelly: its full Merica imo
[30/12/2014, 11:55:36 PM] Dina : Murrica for sure
[30/12/2014, 11:55:38 PM] Dina : WAIT WHAT
[30/12/2014, 11:55:45 PM] Dina : "IM not an actual gamer"?!??!
[30/12/2014, 11:55:48 PM] Athena Hollow: NOPE
[30/12/2014, 11:55:52 PM] Dina : WHY ARE WE HAVING THIS DEBATE
[30/12/2014, 11:56:02 PM] Athena Hollow: none of their goddamn figureheads are gamers except maybe tb
[30/12/2014, 11:56:13 PM] Dina : ugh
[30/12/2014, 11:56:34 PM] Annie Kelly: all right-wing non-gamers with a vendetta against feminism
[30/12/2014, 11:56:35 PM] Annie Kelly: weird
[30/12/2014, 11:56:38 PM] Athena Hollow: but we're totally invading a hobby we've participated in for years.
[30/12/2014, 11:57:00 PM] Annie Kelly: tbf I am a left-wing non-gamer with a vendetta against anti-feminism
[30/12/2014, 11:57:15 PM] Annie Kelly: but AFAICT i'm like the only one lol
[30/12/2014, 11:57:44 PM] Dina : Annie how dare you
[30/12/2014, 11:57:53 PM] Annie Kelly: I know
[30/12/2014, 11:57:56 PM] Dina : you have touched the sanctity of marriage
[30/12/2014, 11:57:59 PM] Annie Kelly: i'm the one they're talking about
[30/12/2014, 11:58:03 PM] Dina : I mean gamer-...dom?
[30/12/2014, 11:58:11 PM] Annie Kelly: hahaha
[30/12/2014, 11:58:28 PM] Rob: If it helps, lots of people despise people like juicebro
[30/12/2014, 11:59:02 PM] Dina : omg Kluwe *slow constant purr*
[30/12/2014, 11:59:13 PM] Dina : ok I'll keep those thoughts to myself from now on
[30/12/2014, 11:59:40 PM] Dina : ..."third party trolls" uuuuuuuuh
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