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==Semantic MediaWiki== | |||
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;"> | |||
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> | |||
To: Ed Admins List <[email protected]> | |||
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:47:05 -0500 | |||
Have any of you guys messed around with semantic wiki before? Ally | |||
maybe? What do you think of it? Is it well supported? It seems really | |||
fucking cool. Anyone have thoughts on this? I am really interested in | |||
some input. | |||
</pre> | |||
==I can't take this anymore== | |||
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;"> | |||
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> | |||
To: Ed Admins List <[email protected]> | |||
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:21:00 -0500 | |||
Subject: [ED Admins] ED | |||
I have decided I can't take this anymore. | |||
We're closed.</pre> | |||
==Adrian Chen== | |||
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;"> | |||
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> | |||
To: ED Administrators Mailing List <[email protected]> | |||
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:00:51 -0500 | |||
Yes, I did talk to him. He fucking called me on the phone. | |||
I did as much no comment as possible, but he had clearly talked to someone else before me and I did my best to dampen | |||
whatever that other person had said. I don't know who it was, but they either forwarded or copy/pasted him emails from | |||
this list. | |||
I don't have a problem with AC, and other than linking to the eversblogspot, this article isn't bad. | |||
I think he knew I was lying when I said I was shocked that it was down, but he printed it anyway. | |||
The problem is that the minute I say I'm done with ED, someone on this list decided the best possible | |||
thing they could do was run to the fucking press. Whoever that person is : I FUCKING HATE YOU. | |||
</pre> | |||
==Thayo== | |||
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;"> | |||
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> | |||
To: <redacted>, | |||
ED Administrators Mailing List <[email protected]> | |||
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:48:05 -0500 | |||
Subject: Re: [ED Admins] ED | |||
If thayo had no tweeted and facebooked and people had no told her what | |||
was posted to this list, then none of this would have been an issue. | |||
But Chen used all that as ammunition to force me to talk to him. I am | |||
not pleased that people are copy/pasting list mails to thayo of all | |||
people. Not cool at all. | |||
Further, just because the site shuts down, doesn't mean that I no | |||
longer exist and suddenly nothing matters to me anymore. | |||
</pre> | |||
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;"> | |||
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> | |||
To: Ed Admins List <[email protected]> | |||
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:42:26 -0500 | |||
Subject: [ED Admins] thayo | |||
I want thayo removed and banned from every single service she has | |||
access to. I want EVERYTHING scorched. | |||
If anyone has her IP, give it to me, I am going to ban her from even | |||
fucking viewing my shit, | |||
</pre> | |||
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;"> | |||
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> | |||
To: ED Administrators Mailing List <[email protected]> | |||
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:13:07 -0500 | |||
Subject: Re: [ED Admins] thayo | |||
She caused more trouble for me, with more long lasting effects than really anything else I cna think of. I got absolutely fucking GRILLED for those twitter and fb updates. I want to strangle her. | |||
</pre> | |||
==Attack article purge== | |||
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;"> | |||
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> | |||
To: Ed Admins List <[email protected]> | |||
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:37:36 -0500 | |||
Subject: [ED Admins] Delete fucking everything [attacky] | |||
So, lets delete all the personal attack articles. That sounds like a | |||
good idea. | |||
</pre> | |||
==OhInternet== | |||
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;"> | |||
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> | |||
To: Ed Admins List <[email protected]> | |||
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:51:28 -0500 | |||
Subject: [ED Admins] v2.0, Oh Internet! | |||
The basics coming up next are this: | |||
We are going to turn the site off for some time in order to do a bunch of upgrades and install semantic mediawiki. | |||
Please do google and learn about it. Whoever knows it best will win, trust me. Semantic mediawiki is going | |||
to be a whole new world of awesome, in my opinion. | |||
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki | |||
The placeholder at ED will be a box for people to put in their email address to get an update for when the site | |||
comes back online. There will also be a link to the new blog that the blog team will update starting hopefully | |||
today. This way, people can view the blog while we are upgrading the wiki and fixing some articles. | |||
Shit is about to get real and I want you all to hold on to your fucking hats. | |||
If you're not interested in going forward, feel free to let me know now. I completely understand and | |||
appreciate your valued and important fealty up to this point, but staying on this list and keeping | |||
access means that you're willing to be on board with the new plan going forward. | |||
Ready? | |||
Ok. | |||
ED as we know it and as a domain has come to an end. | |||
There are so many reasons for this, and if we want to dive down into them, we can. But the | |||
fact of the matter is that I can't continue to deal with ED as it is in it's present form. If it weren't | |||
for Thayo being a stupid fucking cunt yesterday, ED would still be down and I wouldn't even | |||
be thinking about this right now. | |||
But this is how things have turned out and now we are going forward in a new way that is probably | |||
the most controversial thing that we have ever done. | |||
I am going to redirect ED to a new site with SFW content based strictly on internet culture including | |||
memes, e-people, netspeak and website summaries. In order to get content for the new site, we | |||
are going to compile information from the following sources: | |||
Old ED | |||
KYM | |||
Wikipedia | |||
General internet | |||
Basically we are going legit with a much more mainstream content base in the following formats: | |||
-frequent-upate blog | |||
-a wiki | |||
-reddit style news aggregator | |||
Blog | |||
The blog portion is being set up now and I am still accepting writers, if you're interested. If you | |||
loved the "satirical" writing portion, making fun of stuff and doing sendups, or whatever, then | |||
the blog is the best place for you to be. It will also have general one-off stuff like funny pictures, | |||
video and links. Also, the blog will house original content like our South Korea correspondent | |||
Kale's reports from the field, interviews with e-celebrities like the 1guy1jar one dan did, as well | |||
as reports and breaking news stuff, which we really don't have a good place to house on ED wiki now. | |||
Think content like Cracked and Gawker or thedailywhat. | |||
I think this will be a really fun way for us to express ourselves without being subjected to n00bs | |||
shitting all over our good writing. | |||
Wiki | |||
A SFW wiki that documents memes, people, sites and slang in a way that is funny, but more or | |||
less factual and interesting. It can be more tabloid style, but without personal attack articles, tons of | |||
blatant and stupid racism, random played out 2007 style junk. Additionally, this site will have | |||
semantic mediawiki, which will allow us to better guide users into making great content easily. It isn't | |||
just a huge text box for them to fill with crap. It's a series of forms where they put in the relevant | |||
information and make things uniform and organized. What I love about this is that it has a great amount of | |||
editorial and revision control so that we can choose which versions are seen by the general | |||
public, and which are awaiting approval. We can turn this oversight on or off as needed. | |||
Social News | |||
This is third phase and something I am really into. I read reddit everyday and am obsessed | |||
with it. Unfortunately it is dominated by news and politics and thus really depressing. However, | |||
it is really addictive and fun to get into the comments and mix it up with people. I feel like this | |||
could fill a lot of the user obsession with one-upping each other and getting some realtime | |||
interaction and talking about stuff. There's also the "self post" aspect which is genius and | |||
really fun. If you haven't ever seen reddit, check it out. | |||
The overall approach has to be one where the community, user-generated content and editorial-generated content all works together to provide a fun site where things are awesome and exciting. Obviously this will require sysops and community moderators to happen. You guys have shown to be the best of the best, crack team of internet leaders around. Think about it. No one has dealt with the stuff we have, no other mod team has go through this much bullshit and dealt with these kinds of users. You guys are the best and I want us to work together to crush our enemies and build sites and communities for the next era, instead of being stuck in the past. | |||
Thank you for everything you have done and for reading that wall of text. | |||
What questions can I answer? | |||
</pre> | |||
== On New ED == | |||
<pre> | |||
lol wow you are so self centered. This is not an attempt to vilify | |||
you, you are making yourself the villain by withholding the images and | |||
user accounts and the history. Have you seen what is going on over | |||
there? Thousands of people have come together to restore ED to it's | |||
fully glory. Who cares about the passwords? You don't want them. Make | |||
a backup, change the user privileges on the old admin accounts to | |||
regular users, purge your account and be done with it. 99.99999% of | |||
the hate will stop and you can walk away and go on with your life. You | |||
will be a hero, the article on you that is up now will be overwritten | |||
when the old wiki is installed. ED is a user generated website, what | |||
is up in your article now is what the internet thinks about you and | |||
your decisions when you and aren't there to censor them. We have | |||
enough donations to buy it from you if that is what you want, but | |||
unless you plan on putting it back up or you have deleted it, Daniel | |||
Brandt is nothing compared to the userbase you betrayed. | |||
By the way that was a really petty move having me glined, just | |||
remember what goes around comes around and your karma level could use | |||
a couple of good deeds. | |||
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Sherrod <[email protected]> wrote: | |||
> Releasing the data would get brandt and cos back on me again. What they were | |||
> doing to you was nothing compared to what they were doing to me and my | |||
> family, Brian. | |||
> I am fucking terrified of all of this. You know me, you know I wouldn't do | |||
> this unless something serious happened. And it did. I can't be a part of | |||
> this. I do not trust anonymous, I do not think | |||
> they will take anything down. That isn't what they -really- want. What they | |||
> really want is to vilify me and harass me and my family. That's their goal, | |||
> not ED. If ED meant something to them, they would've been around when the | |||
> site went down in january, they would;ve seen what brandt and vigil were | |||
> doing... gawker posted a fuckign link to those sites, so don't tell me they | |||
> didn't know about it. You weren't even a sysop anymore and he went after | |||
> you... don't you see what that means? | |||
> | |||
> The database has passwords and usernames in it, I am not releasing that. It | |||
> has MY password and YOUR password in it. Not to mention, if I release that | |||
> material I am then legally liable for every single piece of it. I was able | |||
> to keep ED up for so long because I didn't participate and kept myself | |||
> legally immune. | |||
> | |||
> I really appreciate your loyalty and understanding with all of this. I was | |||
> so infuriated when I saw brandt was going after you, that';s why I added you | |||
> to the project we were working on for getting some help with it. I wasn't | |||
> able to protect you or myself, no one was. I am really sorry for that, as | |||
> I've said before and I truly regret any problems that they caused you. | |||
> | |||
> | |||
> On Apr 20, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Brian Zaiger wrote: | |||
> | |||
>> So listen, like I don't care whatever happened to make you make the | |||
>> decision you did, If you don't want anything to do with ED anymore | |||
>> that's fine, but it is going to on with or without you. Some of us | |||
>> would like to be able to get the content from the servers so that we | |||
>> can repopulate the images etc on the port wiki. Please consider this | |||
>> and get back to me. Honestly, it is going to happen anyways with or | |||
>> without your data, but it would be way easier if you cooperated. You | |||
>> can be known as the person who killed ED and kept it from the | |||
>> community, or not. | |||
>> | |||
>> -Brian | |||
>> | |||
>> PS I am pretty sure I can get the page you tried to DMCA down too, | |||
>> just release the data to the community and the community will forgive | |||
>> you. This is your chance to make amends and keep on the good side of | |||
>> Anonymous and the internet. | |||
> | |||
> | |||
</pre> | |||
Revision as of 05:44, 7 November 2013
Semantic MediaWiki
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> To: Ed Admins List <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:47:05 -0500 Have any of you guys messed around with semantic wiki before? Ally maybe? What do you think of it? Is it well supported? It seems really fucking cool. Anyone have thoughts on this? I am really interested in some input.
I can't take this anymore
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> To: Ed Admins List <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:21:00 -0500 Subject: [ED Admins] ED I have decided I can't take this anymore. We're closed.
Adrian Chen
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> To: ED Administrators Mailing List <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:00:51 -0500 Yes, I did talk to him. He fucking called me on the phone. I did as much no comment as possible, but he had clearly talked to someone else before me and I did my best to dampen whatever that other person had said. I don't know who it was, but they either forwarded or copy/pasted him emails from this list. I don't have a problem with AC, and other than linking to the eversblogspot, this article isn't bad. I think he knew I was lying when I said I was shocked that it was down, but he printed it anyway. The problem is that the minute I say I'm done with ED, someone on this list decided the best possible thing they could do was run to the fucking press. Whoever that person is : I FUCKING HATE YOU.
Thayo
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> To: <redacted>, ED Administrators Mailing List <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:48:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [ED Admins] ED If thayo had no tweeted and facebooked and people had no told her what was posted to this list, then none of this would have been an issue. But Chen used all that as ammunition to force me to talk to him. I am not pleased that people are copy/pasting list mails to thayo of all people. Not cool at all. Further, just because the site shuts down, doesn't mean that I no longer exist and suddenly nothing matters to me anymore.
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> To: Ed Admins List <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:42:26 -0500 Subject: [ED Admins] thayo I want thayo removed and banned from every single service she has access to. I want EVERYTHING scorched. If anyone has her IP, give it to me, I am going to ban her from even fucking viewing my shit,
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> To: ED Administrators Mailing List <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:13:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [ED Admins] thayo She caused more trouble for me, with more long lasting effects than really anything else I cna think of. I got absolutely fucking GRILLED for those twitter and fb updates. I want to strangle her.
Attack article purge
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> To: Ed Admins List <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:37:36 -0500 Subject: [ED Admins] Delete fucking everything [attacky] So, lets delete all the personal attack articles. That sounds like a good idea.
OhInternet
From: Sherrod <[email protected]> To: Ed Admins List <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:51:28 -0500 Subject: [ED Admins] v2.0, Oh Internet! The basics coming up next are this: We are going to turn the site off for some time in order to do a bunch of upgrades and install semantic mediawiki. Please do google and learn about it. Whoever knows it best will win, trust me. Semantic mediawiki is going to be a whole new world of awesome, in my opinion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki The placeholder at ED will be a box for people to put in their email address to get an update for when the site comes back online. There will also be a link to the new blog that the blog team will update starting hopefully today. This way, people can view the blog while we are upgrading the wiki and fixing some articles. Shit is about to get real and I want you all to hold on to your fucking hats. If you're not interested in going forward, feel free to let me know now. I completely understand and appreciate your valued and important fealty up to this point, but staying on this list and keeping access means that you're willing to be on board with the new plan going forward. Ready? Ok. ED as we know it and as a domain has come to an end. There are so many reasons for this, and if we want to dive down into them, we can. But the fact of the matter is that I can't continue to deal with ED as it is in it's present form. If it weren't for Thayo being a stupid fucking cunt yesterday, ED would still be down and I wouldn't even be thinking about this right now. But this is how things have turned out and now we are going forward in a new way that is probably the most controversial thing that we have ever done. I am going to redirect ED to a new site with SFW content based strictly on internet culture including memes, e-people, netspeak and website summaries. In order to get content for the new site, we are going to compile information from the following sources: Old ED KYM Wikipedia General internet Basically we are going legit with a much more mainstream content base in the following formats: -frequent-upate blog -a wiki -reddit style news aggregator Blog The blog portion is being set up now and I am still accepting writers, if you're interested. If you loved the "satirical" writing portion, making fun of stuff and doing sendups, or whatever, then the blog is the best place for you to be. It will also have general one-off stuff like funny pictures, video and links. Also, the blog will house original content like our South Korea correspondent Kale's reports from the field, interviews with e-celebrities like the 1guy1jar one dan did, as well as reports and breaking news stuff, which we really don't have a good place to house on ED wiki now. Think content like Cracked and Gawker or thedailywhat. I think this will be a really fun way for us to express ourselves without being subjected to n00bs shitting all over our good writing. Wiki A SFW wiki that documents memes, people, sites and slang in a way that is funny, but more or less factual and interesting. It can be more tabloid style, but without personal attack articles, tons of blatant and stupid racism, random played out 2007 style junk. Additionally, this site will have semantic mediawiki, which will allow us to better guide users into making great content easily. It isn't just a huge text box for them to fill with crap. It's a series of forms where they put in the relevant information and make things uniform and organized. What I love about this is that it has a great amount of editorial and revision control so that we can choose which versions are seen by the general public, and which are awaiting approval. We can turn this oversight on or off as needed. Social News This is third phase and something I am really into. I read reddit everyday and am obsessed with it. Unfortunately it is dominated by news and politics and thus really depressing. However, it is really addictive and fun to get into the comments and mix it up with people. I feel like this could fill a lot of the user obsession with one-upping each other and getting some realtime interaction and talking about stuff. There's also the "self post" aspect which is genius and really fun. If you haven't ever seen reddit, check it out. The overall approach has to be one where the community, user-generated content and editorial-generated content all works together to provide a fun site where things are awesome and exciting. Obviously this will require sysops and community moderators to happen. You guys have shown to be the best of the best, crack team of internet leaders around. Think about it. No one has dealt with the stuff we have, no other mod team has go through this much bullshit and dealt with these kinds of users. You guys are the best and I want us to work together to crush our enemies and build sites and communities for the next era, instead of being stuck in the past. Thank you for everything you have done and for reading that wall of text. What questions can I answer?
On New ED
lol wow you are so self centered. This is not an attempt to vilify you, you are making yourself the villain by withholding the images and user accounts and the history. Have you seen what is going on over there? Thousands of people have come together to restore ED to it's fully glory. Who cares about the passwords? You don't want them. Make a backup, change the user privileges on the old admin accounts to regular users, purge your account and be done with it. 99.99999% of the hate will stop and you can walk away and go on with your life. You will be a hero, the article on you that is up now will be overwritten when the old wiki is installed. ED is a user generated website, what is up in your article now is what the internet thinks about you and your decisions when you and aren't there to censor them. We have enough donations to buy it from you if that is what you want, but unless you plan on putting it back up or you have deleted it, Daniel Brandt is nothing compared to the userbase you betrayed. By the way that was a really petty move having me glined, just remember what goes around comes around and your karma level could use a couple of good deeds. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Sherrod <[email protected]> wrote: > Releasing the data would get brandt and cos back on me again. What they were > doing to you was nothing compared to what they were doing to me and my > family, Brian. > I am fucking terrified of all of this. You know me, you know I wouldn't do > this unless something serious happened. And it did. I can't be a part of > this. I do not trust anonymous, I do not think > they will take anything down. That isn't what they -really- want. What they > really want is to vilify me and harass me and my family. That's their goal, > not ED. If ED meant something to them, they would've been around when the > site went down in january, they would;ve seen what brandt and vigil were > doing... gawker posted a fuckign link to those sites, so don't tell me they > didn't know about it. You weren't even a sysop anymore and he went after > you... don't you see what that means? > > The database has passwords and usernames in it, I am not releasing that. It > has MY password and YOUR password in it. Not to mention, if I release that > material I am then legally liable for every single piece of it. I was able > to keep ED up for so long because I didn't participate and kept myself > legally immune. > > I really appreciate your loyalty and understanding with all of this. I was > so infuriated when I saw brandt was going after you, that';s why I added you > to the project we were working on for getting some help with it. I wasn't > able to protect you or myself, no one was. I am really sorry for that, as > I've said before and I truly regret any problems that they caused you. > > > On Apr 20, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Brian Zaiger wrote: > >> So listen, like I don't care whatever happened to make you make the >> decision you did, If you don't want anything to do with ED anymore >> that's fine, but it is going to on with or without you. Some of us >> would like to be able to get the content from the servers so that we >> can repopulate the images etc on the port wiki. Please consider this >> and get back to me. Honestly, it is going to happen anyways with or >> without your data, but it would be way easier if you cooperated. You >> can be known as the person who killed ED and kept it from the >> community, or not. >> >> -Brian >> >> PS I am pretty sure I can get the page you tried to DMCA down too, >> just release the data to the community and the community will forgive >> you. This is your chance to make amends and keep on the good side of >> Anonymous and the internet. > >