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Voat, also known as "Reddit's 8chan", is a Reddit clone created as a platform for free speech. Used widely by people who pretend that they don't use reddit to complain about reddit, Voat is the sewer that collects Reddit's septic runoff. Within its borders, pedophiles, teenagers, conservatives, ex-fatpeoplehate members, racists, conspiracy theorists, and redpillers all valiantly fight against a privately-owned forum's decision to add and enforce rules.

Voat: Because I'm entitled to do whatever I want on someone else's website!

Voat was created by a college student who wanted to make a Reddit alternative that champions freedom of speech and privacy. Naturally, the bright young lad decided to host the servers in Switzerland, a country with some of the strictest anti-hate speech laws in the West for some reason. Of course, the poor guy likely didn't anticipate that his forum would turn into a Safe Space for every flavor of bigot on the Internet. For many moons, the site was stagnant, populated mainly by those who were fed up by Reddit's endless sea of memes, tired pun threads and one-liners, psuedointellectualism, and mob mentality. Unfortunately for these lost souls, it was the latter feature that caused Voat to become flooded with the best Reddit has to offer and transformed it into an echo chamber filled with try-hards whose edginess rivals even the youngest shitposters on /b/.


The Reddit Exodus

Voat received little attention until Redditors began pretending to migrate there in response to Reddit admins actually enforcing their rules. This occurred in two waves. While the first was much smaller than the second, it set the stage for website to become a cesspit of memespam (e.g. "TRIGGERED", "did I hurt your fee fees?") and whining.

"Hey guys, let's go to a different website and discuss the website we just left!"

Wave One: SLC Daycare Center

The migration began after a Reddit user posted to /r/conspiracy about a daycare near his house that no children ever came in or out of. Naturally, the top minds of the subreddit jumped onto the case, suspecting that the daycare was a front for a drug or sex trafficking operation, a child porn ring, or a money laundering front. After calling the daycare, peering into its windows, and going so far as to allegedly take a video of children going in and break into the building, /r/conspiracy was SHOCKED to find that the admins warned the mods to cut that shit out. Fiercely protective of their freedom to bombard strangers with phone calls and break into private businesses, /r/conspiracy users encouraged their tinfoil-wielding brothers to migrate to Voat, where they were active for a couple of days before they realized that they couldn't handle living without the attention and upvotes Reddit provided. As such, Voat became a graveyard of shitposts once more.

Wave Two: The Fattening

After the conspiracy theorists returned to Reddit, Voat again sat in relative obscurity. This changed when the Reddit admins decided to ban /r/fatpeoplehate, a community where users indulged in the common hobby of talking shit about pictures of fat strangers for hours a day. Other bastions quality discussion were additionally b&, including /r/transfags, /r/shitniggerssay, and /r/neofag. Following the announcement, Redditors collectively shit their britches in upset. Users flooded the front page of the Internet with fatpeoplehate material, nazi imagery, and photoshops of Ellen Pao, the CEO of Reddit. To these brave, principled souls, Chairman Pao was violating their sacred rights to FREE SPEECH by enforcing the rules of the privately-owned, for-profit website that users can leave at any time. Users gave impassioned, poetic speeches about how the admins were going to ban offensive subs and turn Reddit into a "Safe Space". Despite the fact that /r/fatpeoplehate was banned for well-documented large-scale harassment and spamming "found the fatty!" all over Reddit, and widely-loathed places like /r/antiPOZI and /r/KotakuInAction were still allowed to exist. In reality, the likely reason for the banning of /r/fatpeoplehate was because the users were so evangelical about the sub that their constant references to it skyrocketed its visibility and made Reddit less palatable to advertisers. Who would have guessed that a company doesn't want to bleed money?

Thus began the mass migration to Voat. /r/fatpeoplehate established a 'subverse' on Voat so they could make fun of fat people in peace, and it's subscriber count quickly rose to 10k. Outraged against Reddit's heinous violation of their freedoms, and fearing that they too would get the banhammer, Redditors from places such as /r/coontown, /r/theredpill, /r/subredditcancer, /r/conspiracy, and /r/kotakuinaction followed suit while continuing to actively whine about Reddit and its oppressiveness...on Reddit. The massive spike in traffic brought down Voat's servers for days, as they had previously been accustomed to hosting a handful of users and a piece of string.

Once the administrator managed to pull the site back up, the Voat community was established in all of its glory, forever a place for reactionaries to jerk themselves off over the evilness of the Social Justice Warriors that they act exactly like.

The DDosening

Shortly after the new residents moved in, Voat went down and the owner reported that it was being DDosed. In a fit of impotent fury, deVoatees scrambled to find a target to blame. As creative as they are intelligent, the group settled on the usual targets: SRS, SJWs, Reddit itself, and, of course, the CEO of Reddit, Ellen Pao. Yes, they literally accused the CEO of a large company of personally aiming her LOIC cannons at Voat. The reasoning behind this theory is that Pao wanted to stop competition by preventing people from travelling to Voat. What they don't realize is that everyone else on Reddit desperately wants them to fuck off and welcomes Voat as a piss container. Additionally, the types of people who migrated to Voat are the ones who make Reddit unpalatable to advertisers and cost the site money. On the slight chance that deVotees actually do boycott Reddit and don't just pretend that they are, nothing of value would be lost.

The Death of Jailbait

This goat has seen the vinegar strokes of a thousand lonely ephebophiles pedophiles.

Despite the website's aim uphold privacy, the rights to not have pictures of your sexual abuse and personal info spread on a public forum were seemingly uncovered. For many months, Voat contained "subverses" dedicated to collecting dox and hosting child porn. This went by unnoticed until paypal suspended Voat's account due to its hosting of /v/jailbait. Never ones to pass up the chance to rustle some jimmies, a SRS user pounced on the opportunity to take credit for reporting the website. While it is uncertain if the user actually did the deed or if they were trolling, but the brilliant thinkers at Voat exercised their Olympic-level mental gymnastics and decided that SRS planted the CP to get Voat shut down. Despite the fact that the CP had been posted months prior to the migration and the fact that the moderator of /v/truejailbait was actively encouraging users to post CP. When asked for proof, deVoatees would deflect or dismiss the question by calling the FACT "common sense".


The controversy came to a head when a deVoatee claimed on AskVoat that they had seen pictures of naked 13-year-olds on /v/truejailbait. The user response drifted between denial that there was CP, a desire to keep the images up for political reasons, long-winded rants about how feminists are suppressing natural male sexuality by banning pics of sexualized nude tweens, and rationalization that Voat wouldn't get taken down by The Law because they didn't technically host the images on their servers. However, all parties came to the consensus that their freedom to spam racial crime statistics on a private company's forum was more important than the freedom of the victims that were kidnapped, raped, abused, and killed by the industry that they were supporting. Some argued that simply viewing an image wasn't hurting anyone, ignoring cause and effect and demonstrating the ignorance of basic economic concepts that only a libertarian can possess. Some choice comments:

   
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Threads like this are perfect for SJWs and White Knights to come and circle jerk.

People should realize that NO JAILBAIT CONTENT WILL EVER APPEAR ON Voat unless you ACTIVELY subscribe to the sub.

These people are literally searching for objectionable content just so they can get upset about something.
 

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—"It's fine to host CP 'cause you don't have to look at it!"

   
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I thought this was atko's website. Stoic doesn't seem to be atko.

And you just said something retarded, by the way. Voat was meant to be about free speech, if he goes on and limits free speech, then that was a lie. You'll end just like Reddit because you feel "Jailbait (I CALL IT CP CUZ IM STOOPID) IS ICKY AND HURTS MUH FEERINGS".
 

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—"Posting pics of underage girls is covered by FREE SPEECH!"

   
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I don't think the name of the subverse should have any weight in regards to what type of images are legal or not. Depending on how you are defining child, many consent daily to have their images online. It's really part of the driving force of many social media platforms. The argument that it's up to adults to make decisions that are in their best interest, there are many modeling and art studios that do nude photos of any age group, and those are with guardian consent. I have seen so many baby photographs professionally done with a nude child laying on a blanket, or in a park, or with a sunflower hat in photo albums and hanging on walls that I would be surprised to find out they were done without parental/guardian influence.
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—"Well /v/jailbait might not be used for wanking off, and they might not have gotten exploited, so what's the harm?"

   
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If there is something illegal going on, then report it. But do not rally to ban subs because you dislike the content, even if its legal. If you rant about how we need to ban Jailbait because you are just uncomfortable with it, then you are just another Pao.
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—"Want to ban kiddie porn?! Is your name Ellen Pao!?"

   
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We are not here to debate morals. Morality is subjective and should we begin to censure what somebody considers "bad", we will end like Reddit.
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—"Morality is subjective so I should be able to wank to naked kids."

   
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OP clearly does not understand what constitutes CP: Images of minors performing sexual acts or sexual poses while nude. Nudity or sexy poses on their own are legal, its when you put them together that they become illegal - if this wasn't the case there would be a lot of parents, and nudists in jail because of family photos.

If there is illegal content it should be reported and removed; if there is content that is legal but makes you feel icky/uncomfortable move along and ignore it, neither you nor I have the right to demand its banning - that's the sort of bulshit one would normally associate with SJWs
 

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—"It's okay if there's no penetration involved!"

   
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Just a playing a devil's advocate here, what's the difference between child pornography and child nudity?

If we are to say pictures of naked children as child pornography then all those baby/toddler pictures where they are mostly naked are also child pornography. So all those cute baby pictures that is half/full nude and all those innocent naked cute toddler pictures posted mostly by their parents or siblings can be considered as child pornography as well.

I thought pornography should show a sexual act to be treated as such. Naked pictures is hard to consider as pornography because it borders art. And if we are to be very strict about it, all nudity regardless of intention or presentation will be considered pornography. So good bye cute baby pictures, good bye sexy selfies, good bye underwear models and good bye art. So where do we draw the line?
 

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—A textbook display of the slippery slope fallacy.

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Eventually the site owner came to the realization that he was on the verge of riding the partyvan and banned the jailbait subs, along with /v/doxbin for good measure. Although many people expressed relief that their Safe Space wasn't going to get invaded, others expressed outrage at the decision. Some choice comments:

   
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It's interesting you'd call the pictures posted in jailbait pornography. The fact you'd call images of nude girls pornography, I think speaks volumes about you and others who felt the same way. Images of nude girls/women not touching or exposing their genitalia but simply standing or sitting isn't pornography, it is art.

Such a sad state humans find themselves in when one of the most glorious and beautiful things about humans (the feminine figure) is considered pornography.
 

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—"It's art because it's beautiful, even if I wank to it."

   
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Alright buddy listen, if you want to start censoring then you clearly don't understand the purpose of free speech. There will occasionally be hiccups, things will get missed. But those are the knocks you take for protecting freedom as an idea.

If you don't like it, don't go there. I don't, in fact almost nobody goes there. That doesn't mean we won't protect their rights.
 

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—Voat, protecting their sacred right to masturbate to exploited children.

   
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But its the exact same shit as FPH being banned on Reddit. By banning subverses that have no proof of illegal activities or harassment, he is assuming responsibility for the moderation of the sites content. He is fucking up big time with this decision.
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—Yes, child porn is definitely the same as calling people fatties.

   
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They just said they will ban any sub that is reported as having illegal content. Reported. So you can just complain about any sub you want taken down, say it has illegal content, and it will be removed. This is awful.
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—Because the admins totally won't check the claims before provoking a riot from rabid deVoatees.

   
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I understand that you need to protect the site but this is very disappointing to me.
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—"I understand, but I just wish we could have exercised our protected right to masturbate to pictures of kids."

   
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If we ban pics of girls we should just do a sitewide ban of guy pics as well. We can't have feminists fingerbanging to underage boys.

In fact, let's just ban ANY pic just to be on the safe side.

This is really just a censorship issue. There's porn of all kinds on every single site out there. There's BARELY LEGAL TEEN porn which is extremely popular. Hell, even Brooke Shields and Traci Lords put underage porn into MAINSTREAM MOVIES.

Sure we shouldn't be sexualizing naked children, but if you're going to start banning legal content just for the sake of hoping to catch illegal content, how is that any different than an officer firing into the crowd of a fleeing robber with a shotgun just to make sure he gets the bad guy?

Do just like any other site: do your DUE DILIGENCE to remove any illegal content just as any site would. But it's definitely not your responsibility to police ALL content. That's just impossible. Even 4chan is notorious for DAILY KIDDIE PORN PICS. but the mods remove them as soon as they can because they CAN'T be held accountable for other people's posts otherwise reddit would likewise be held liable for ANY instance of an illegal pic.

Even Iggy Azalea made a child porn video where she tried to seduce an underage little boy with her pussy. That was allowed on YOUTUBE. So let's not get ahead of ourselves here. It's really not about the images themselves as much as the gatekeepers in charge of SEXUALIZING THE CONTEXT according to their feminist agenda.

I've seen pics on reddit of parents and strangers posting pics of naked kids playing in a bathtub or near the shower. If ALL naked children are to be removed, those would fall under 'illegal'.

If something is sexualizing a child in an obvious manner, we can remove it, no problem. But if someone is using their feminist liberal agenda to say "THAT is sexual TO ME" then we should tell them to fuck off. I mean social justice warriors support and still buy Lena Dunham's book where she admits to MOLESTING HER LITTLE SISTER. Except it's not considered molestation because the Social Justice Warriors are in charge of setting the context. Instead of Lena Dunham the CHILD MOLESTER touching her sister's vagina, it's warped into a fun childhood game of innocent curiosity. Again, it all depends on the gatekeepers interpretation of events.

Our goal should be to stand against censorship, not give it an excuse to GROW.
 

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—"People make underage sex tapes, so CP should be legal!"

   
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When something illegal happens on the street, is that street being closed because of it?

Or are the guilty persons taken to face the justice system by the police force according the law?

What voat did is destroy the street because someone said that there might have been persons doing something that might have been illegal.

VOAT YOU SUCK ASS. YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN REDDIT. FUCK YOU.
 

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—"I'm entitled to view child porn on your website. FUCK YOU."

   
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I feel this is only the beginning
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—IT BEGINS.

   
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You were moderating very diligently. Until few hours ago, voat was example of how forum should be done. Removal was done only once a law was broken and only the post itself was removed, not entire subverse.

It is clear that Atko is worried about his personal fate and is not doing this out of ideological stance on site management. Sadly, it means that our enemies won once again. I sought refuge on this forum. Now where will I turn to?
 

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—"Screw you for caring more about getting put in the slammer than for our right to view naked minors. Now where can I go where my actions don't have consequences?"

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While it is currently unclear what the consequences will be for the site owner and Voat at large, but the /v/jailbait fiasco produced enough butthurt to fuel a decade's worth of angry shitposts.

The Average deVoatee

The typical deVoatee is what you would expect from a person who joins a hate group and demands that a site owner risk getting convicted for child porn distribution to satisfy their "principles". Their sense of entitlement is unmatched, and, just like the SJWs they loathe so much, deVoatees expect the world to bend over for them and for institutions to change their policies to accommodate their uncontrollable need to whine about some perceived persecution for hours a day. Ironically, in complaining about Reddit and Voat trying to cater to the demands of SJWs, they too are demanding to be catered to. Also a characteristic of SJWs, deVoatees have an external locus of control that causes them to blame the world for their own failures and shortcomings. Instead of blaming their poor hygiene and abrasive nature for their sustained virginity, they'll blame the feminist media for turning women into whores who only sleep with Alpha Males. Instead of realizing that the average NORP doesn't want to hear them rant about Jews and lizard people, they blame the government for beating people into complacency with propaganda. In addition, deVoatees make heavy use of confirmation bias and warp everything else they hear to fit their victim complex worldview. It is because of this that they lack the self-awareness to realize how stupid they look to normal people.

A typical deVoatee waving the stars and bars

Because deVoatees have primarily come from hate groups on Reddit, they have the same profile as everyone else who spends hours a day jerking off over the fact that a group of people is different than them. Their hate group membership serves a number of functions, such as making themselves feel superior to others by nature because they have no actual accomplishments or positive qualities, maintaining a victim narrative, having a target for paranoia, or distracting themselves from the grim realities of everyday life. Like their liberal counterparts, deVoatees get off on being outraged by perceived slights and will search for, or even invent reasons to get angry. This is why the entirety of Voat is still dedicated to bitching about Reddit, despite claiming to have having left the website.

The inhabitants of Voat are overwhelmingly young white male libertarians, which makes sense because that's the only demographic of people who would join movements over shit as petty as vidya game journalism and a website enforcing its rules. DeVoatees have a completely nonsensical obsession with freedom of speech, which they've interpreted as the freedom to spew whatever inane shit you want, wherever you want, without any negative reaction or consequences. A person who objects to their race realism posts is immediately branded an SJW and told that they're stifling free speech. Any post that gets removed for furthering some shitty agenda is automatically censorship, even if it breaks the rules. DeVoatees don't believe that cause and effect exist for them, which is why any effect is met with outrage and defiance. Despite being a primarily libertarian group, the people of Voat are awfully adverse to a company exercising its freedom to change its business practices, make financial decisions, and refuse service to whomever breaks its rules. Like all reactionaries, deVoatees immediately default to some rationalization-fulled ideological speech when confronted with their own hypocrisy.

In short, deVoatees are to Reddit what SJWs are to tumblr.

Common Voat Activities

The Future of Voat

"Hey guys, let's discuss the website we're supposed to use on the website we're supposed to boycott!"

With the banning of /r/fatpeoplehate causing sustained butthurt, Voat is likely to have some activity for a long time. However, like good little attention whores, deVoatees feel lost when they're not in the spotlight and will fight hard to stay relevant. This will be accomplished by spreading the word of the website with the ferocity of a Mormon missionary and continue to antagonize Redditors in order to create the controversy that fuels their persecution complex. As soon as Voat stops being relevant and a common topic of discussion, deVoatees will create a scene so that people start talking about them again. Of course, over time this will be less effective, and Voat users will eventually slink back to home base until Reddit enforces their rules again.

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