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| {{spoiler|[[Larry Sanger]] isn't the inventor and co-founder of Wikipedia either - [[Ben Kovitz]] is the inventor, stolen by Larry Sanger and in turn stolen by Jimbo Wales}}
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| [[Larry Sanger]] is the inventor and one of the founders of [[TOW]]. Dead baggage to [[Jimbo Wales|Jimbo]], Sanger is the sort of guy that Wales dreads to even mention, this most likely stems from Jimbo wanting to keep all the credit to himself. Hell, keep it.
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| [[Image:Larrysanger.jpg|thumb|left|Larry Sanger has only one weakness: He has [[down syndrome]].]]
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| [[Image:Penfold.gif|frame|Hey [[Jimbo|Jimmy]], I've got an idea!]]
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| ==Co-founder of Wikipedia (AND its sole inventor!!!111oneoneone)==
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| {{quote|No, this is not an indecent proposal. It's an idea to add a little feature to Nupedia. Jimmy Wales thinks that many people might find the idea objectionable, but I think not.|'''Larry Sanger''' on "Lets Make A Wiki"[http://web.archive.org/web/20030414014355/http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/nupedia-l/2001-January/000676.html]|color=#FF00CC}}
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| [[Jimbo Wales|King Jimbo XII of Wikipedia]] dreads this subject like the plague.. But we're a truth book here at [[ED]], so here we go.
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| Larry Sanger assisted in the creation of Wikipedia. There are many, many sources that state that. Consequently, according to wikipedo policy, they have to use those sources. Sounds cool?
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| Unfortunately, Jimbo was a wee bit [[butt-hurt]] over Larry claiming - and rightfully so, as if it is on TOW, ''[[lie|it has to be true]]'' - that he co-founded Wikipedia with Jimbo. So as a result, Jimbo forced his hivemind to violate policy, set in stone and all that shit, so Jimbo's e-pen0r could grow a wee bit at [[Jimbo Wales/Chat logs]].
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| However, that whole story was actually a cover up of the actual truth, which is that [[Ben Kovitz]] is the actual founder of Wikipedia. While focusing on the Larry Sanger/Jimbo Wales duel, we all forgot about the real founder. [[David Gerard]] is primarily responsible for the usurping of the true God-king.
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| [[David Gerard]]'s 27 June 2004 "tweak" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_Wikipedia&diff=next&oldid=4312571 changed the whole fucking history], and sent Ben to Davey Jones's locker. A year after David Gerard's change, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/delete&page=Ben_Kovitz Ben Kovitz was no longer notable enough for an article on Wikipedia even].
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| ===Proposed ban===
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| In response to [[Wikipedia:User_talk:Larry_Sanger#Blocked|a brief block]], during [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Proposed_community_ban_on_LS|a May9/09 noticeboard discussion]], Sanger [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard&action=historysubmit&diff=361022771&oldid=361022643 supported] banning himself.
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| ==[[Wikipedia Review]]==
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| According to WR's admin blissyu2/Arian, [http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=73 an invite was sent] prior to March 2006. Response: "''I can tell you one thing for damn sure. I certainly will never post to your forum as long as you allow [[Lir]] to be posting to it.''" + "''[[Fred Bauder]] is a crank''"
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| ==[[Citizendium]]==
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| Disgruntled over Wales' petulant, conservative nature, Sanger had to take matters into his own hands. Sanger, as a rebuttal to [[TOW]], created a superior, ''factual'' version of the Wiki, with a closed system of editing as opposed to the cesspool of non-qualified false sense of equality with which Wikipedia is so infested. The next generation of Wikipedia, or '''Wikipedia 2.0''' was to be called Citizendium. Naturally, as Citizendium will be edited solely by experts, and not [[MONGO|pretentious wikipedo fucks]], it has been estimated that Citizendium will [[Unrealistic expectations|supersede Wikipedia in usefulness]] pretty fucking quickly. Jimbo's response was one of panic and deep, rising hatred. He decided to erase Larry from Wikipedia as co-founder all together, and has hired a number of suits to make sure it stays that way. Internet - Srs Biz.
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| ==FBI==
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| Larry Sanger has had an interest in [[pedophilia]] for nearly a decade. After he unintentionally caused [[9/11]] to occur with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pedophilia&diff=274479&oldid=347705078 an edit], it was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20010914173544&limit=2&target=Larry+Sanger wiped from records].
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| Recently, in an attempt to get attentionz for his Citizendium, Sanger attempted to get [[Jimbo]] thoroughly [[V&]] for distributing [[CP]] by reporting him to the [[FBI]] . Since he apparently forgot his [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Larry_Sanger old account]'s password, he posted [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:99.67.54.40 by IP] to [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sanger's_Message_to_the_FBI MetaWikimedia]. This posting of text immediately caused a slew of drama as people started using it as a talk page and modifying it, until eventually the entire message (and [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sanger's_Message_to_the_FBI#Jan-Bart_origins resulting conversation] which we luckily recovered) was deleted and Millosh recreated the page from scratch on April 14th as a link to the prior URL. This page was referenced in slashdot prior to the creation date and the talk page was created prior to it, combined with the Jan-Bart history this wipeout is obvious.
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| Mere days after sending the warning, the Register broke the story, which spread across Slashdot, and Sanger twittered like made linking his followers to the various news reports.
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| The content in question was the "Category:Pedophilia" and related subsection "Category:[[Lolicon]]". Later, Sanger and the news articles relented that it was not showing real people but that it might qualify as 'obscene' or as a 'depiction' of abuse even if it wasn't depicting any real events or crimes. The art in question ranged from drawings of lolis in negligee from the creator of [[Wikipe-tan]] to a variety of artwork from the early 1900s.
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| ===Twitter===
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| [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/11781396377 The Initial Discovery, April 7, 2:05PM] "''Wikimedia Commons hosts illegal pedophilia. For shame.''" [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/11786282391 "Check out the Pedophilia category!"]
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| *[[Dat Ass|Avicennasis]]: [http://twitter.com/Avicennasis/status/11785319478 "I will have it removed"] ... [http://twitter.com/Avicennasis/status/11786742208 "Looks clean to me, including subcat."]
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| :Larry: [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/11787087593 "IT'S STILL THERE!!!"] [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/11787317414 "the FBI thinks the contents of Wikimedia Commons' "Pedophilia" category is "artistic." I don't think so"]
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| :*[[Girlvinyl|Aniceass]]: [http://twitter.com/Avicennasis/status/11788106434 "If you want to report to FBI for a second opinion, feel free"]
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| ::[http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/11793444312 "I don't need] '''some [[B|random]] [[anonymous]] person to tell me how to report a tip to the FBI!"'''
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| ::*[http://twitter.com/Avicennasis/status/11801229338 "IF your concern is protecting children or preserving laws, I was only helping. I will accept the thank you."]
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| :::[http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/11803663275 "You weren't helping and I didn't thank you. Bye now."]
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| ===Timeline===
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| *[http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=EDTECH&month=1004&week=a&msg=oh60TKAnthvEwBjcWNxxSg&user=&pw= DOCTOR Sanger's Message to the FBI, April 7, 10:59PM] then 6 minutes later: [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/11805438222 "I sent to the FBI!"]
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| :*[http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/11828825607 Sanger twitters the entire United States Senate, April 8, 10:26AM] "''Ball's out of my court now.''" 3 minutes later: [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/11828977920 "Older people are wiser than younger people"]
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| ::[http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jan-Bart&diff=prev&oldid=1929558 WikiBrag @ 3:56PM]
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| *[http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/11902533034 "Register has a story!" 4:37PM] then [[Time-generating techniques|FAST REACTION]] [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/09/sanger_reports_wikimedia_to_the_fbi The Register UK's Sanfrancisoan Cade Mentz: Sanger Reports Wikimedia to the FBI. April 9, 9:20PM]
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| ====10th====
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| *[http://www.pinewswire.net/2010/04/wikifounder-reports-wikiparent-to-fbi-over-child-porn-something-i-helped-start-has-come-to-this Private Investigator's Newsire, April 10]: Larry on loli image archive: "''Something I helped start!''"
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| *SimSimT: [http://twitter.com/simsimt/status/11934198982 "Another low from Larry" 7:16AM]
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| *Translatica: [http://twitter.com/translatica/status/11937169357 "Why should the Pedophilia wikimedia commons content be banned or censored?" 8:40AM]
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| :Larry: [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/11937852639 "You don't think it violates the statute? You think the statute is wrong?" 8:58AM]
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| :*[http://twitter.com/translatica/status/11945937281 "I think it is open to interpretation. It brings to the table the cultural or artistic relevancy of the images." 11:54AM]
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| ::[http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/11948904581 "Didn't answer my question, DO YOU HAVE THE COURAGE?" 1:02PM]
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| ::*[http://twitter.com/translatica/status/11949849654 1:25PM]: "the statute doesn't apply, art and history are undoubtedly ashaming, but undeniable knowledge"
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| :::*[http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/11950643609 "Judgment of the authorities!"]
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| ====11th====
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| *[http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/04/11/018255/Larry-Sanger-Tells-FBI-Wikipedia-Distributes-Child-Pornography Timothy of SlashDot News: Larry Sanger Tells FBI Wikipedia Distributes CP, 4:58AM]
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| :[http://friendfeed.com/loucypher/f5dd1d64/rt-slashdot-larry-sanger-tells-fbi-wikipedia Twittering example]
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| :Larry: [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12003104753 "Slashdot is up in arms, ][http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12003725618 pedophile sympathizers are out in force]
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| :*[http://wannabegeek.org/latest-news/280205-larry-sanger-tells-fbi-wikipedia-distributes-aquotchild-pornographyaquot WannabeGeek] & [http://www.linuxpourtous.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=144688&Itemid=23 Linux] plug the SlashDot entry but attributes it to some kind of Taco Cowboys instead of Jimmy]
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| *[http://endlessparadigm.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=23104 Endless Paradigm's ZiNgA BuRgA says at 05:53 AM that they've been monitoring the issue for years]
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| *[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/11/wikifounder-reports-wikim_n_533206.html Huffington Post picks up Register story at 9:25AM]
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| *Nyenyec:[http://twitter.com/nyenyec/status/11999365824 "Sanger: sore loser & asshole" 11:49AM]
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| :Larry: [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12001961273 "Don't have kids, do you?"]
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| *[http://www.geekosystem.com/wikimedia-child-pornography GeekoSystem's Susana Polo reports at 12:34PM]
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| *Afamiglietti: [http://twitter.com/afamiglietti/status/12007084545 "Seriously Sanger, you report Wikipedia for Child Pornography? Citizendium going THAT poorly?"] + [http://twitter.com/afamiglietti/status/12061425754 "Sanger's home harbouring sex offenders!"]
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| :Larry at [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12062643344 2:44PM]: "[[Why So Serious?|Why so hostile?]]"
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| :*[http://twitter.com/afamiglietti/status/12062961295 "Your campaign against wikipedia (which has plenty of flaws) is a smear" 2:52PM]
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| *WhiteMystery [[Encyclopedia_Dramatica:Thizzlehat_Junction_Center#Larry_Sanger.2C_Mediawiki_and_Child_Porn_-_Oh_My.21|breaks the story at 9:48PM]] on the Thizzlehat Junction Center.
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| ====12th====
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| *[http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1613902&cid=31813748 General reply to SlashDot, April 12, 12:08AM] (also [http://www.larrysanger.org/ReplyToSlashdot.html on his site]): [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12020756844 "Child Porn" was misleading"]
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| *[http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/04/12/wikipedia-founder-reports-wikimedia-commons-to-the-fbi-for-child Download Squad's Jay Hathaway at 12:30PM]: "''He's made the letter open and posted it to Wikipedia, where users (including Wikimedia's lead attorney) have subjected it to some harsh criticism, both legal and personal. Wikimedia defenders claim Sanger is just bitter over his falling out with Wikipedia''"
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| *[http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12059279596 "no mention of TOW's pedo prob on CoW..." 1:21PM] then... [[Wikipedia:Talk:Criticism_of_Wikipedia#No_mention_of_the_pedophile_problem_on_Wikipedia.3F|Criticism on Wikipedia, 6:17PM]], this is later reported by [[Wikipedia:User:HaeB|/b/]] in the [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2010-04-12/Sanger allegations|Signpost Sanger Allegations]].
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| *[http://thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=12106 Cutting Edge News]
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| ====Further developments====
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| Sanger on Shirky: [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12140008736 "Clay thinks that attacking depictions of '''chlid''' rape is not classy" 9:35PM]
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| *JoeyMornin: [http://twitter.com/joeymornin/status/12140100236 "the goal was to attract attention beyond the FBI--no? 9:37PM, April 13]
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| :Larry: [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12140384511 "THIS NEEDS TO BE A PUBLIC ISSUE" 9:43PM] 1 min later... [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12140454024 "do you have kids?"] 1 min later... [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12140514673 "Idly musing: what percentage of you have children?"]
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| Larry: [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12167170805 "WM took down my FBI msg :("] (April 14)
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| *AFG85: [http://twitter.com/AFG85/status/12162544330 "You posted the text of the letter publicly. Why would you do that? Why wouldn't you just make the tip privately?"]
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| :[[Loli|Larry]]: [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12167253672 9:53AM]: "public because public pressure be brought to [[Pedobear|bear]]"
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| :*[http://twitter.com/AFG85/status/12167969972 "just making a play for attention][http://twitter.com/AFG85/status/12167995361 "like the pharisees; trying to flaunt how moral and humble they were in public?"]
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| ::[http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12169543864 "there's something wrong with... my motives,][http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12169430952 "I should stop all criticism of Wikimedia"]
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| ::*[http://twitter.com/AFG85/status/12169476644 "The manner you've gone about this seems rather self-promoting."]
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| :::[http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12169592910 "People who don't take me seriously seek for another explanation. This reflects badly on THEM."] [http://twitter.com/lsanger/status/12204338147 "Wikipedians refuse to add pedophiles in their midst to their page."]
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| :::*[[Powerword|Nabeel Shakeel Ahmed]]: [http://twitter.com/ns_ahmed/status/12207274692 "I completely agree with your view, ideals of liberty are taken to inappropriate extremes"]
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| *The [http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Forum:Larry_Sanger_reports_Wikimedia_to_FBI subject is broached] on the [[Uncyc]] forums, leading an average Joe to back up [http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Joe9320/An_Open_Letter_to_the_FBI_by_Larry_Sanger the FBI letter]. (April 16)
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| *April 27: [http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/27/wikipedia-child-porn-larry-sanger-fbi Faux News' Jana Winter gets involved]
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| *April 28: [http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/04/28/wikimedia-foundation-responds-to-fox-news Wikimedia] & [[Erik Moeller]] then [http://intelligentdesigns.net/blog/?p=101 respond]
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| :*[http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100428/tc_afp/usitinternetcrimesexwikipedia Yahoo] copies the story]
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| *April 29: [http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100428/1153439220.shtml TechDirt digs up more dirt]
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| *April 30: [http://www.larrysanger.org/MoreAboutWikimedia.html MOAR]
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| *May 7: Due to the [http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/05/07/wikipedia-purges-porn combined pressures of Sanger, FBI & Fox News] Jimbo Whales will remove all the tentacoo wape from the Wikimedia Commons, :(
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| *May 9: [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/09/wikimedia_pron_purge The Register's Cade Mentz also likes to spell it 'pron']
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| *May 10: [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10104946.stm BBC: Whales cedes rights] in response to caving into Sanger's demands to remove ancient nudez
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| *May 12: [http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/long-past-time-for-wikimedia-to-grow-up/6466 ZDNet's Dana Blankenhorn: "Sanger, who has been feuding with Wales for years, deliberately provoked this by giving Fox News and the FBI the two words certain to bring the wrath of God on any site — child porn."]
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| ==YouTube==
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| (1) <youtube>2c9mRKFy5fU</youtube> (2) <youtube>Sqb-DhgkTTI</youtube>
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| Recently YouTube was used as a platform to promote once again his belief that he started Wikipedia. Immediately after uploading his speeches, he gave his own videos a thumbs up to get the ball rolling. Then, the following four hours were taken up watching videos of 3 year old boys. Out of the 4 channels he has subscribed, 3 were removed by Google for [[CP|unknown reasons]].
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| ==See Also==
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| *[[SuperMemo]], whose inventor had a run-in with Sanger
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| ==External Links==
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| *[http://twitter.com/lsanger Twitter]
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| *Wikipedia Review: [http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=29211 FBI tweets] & [http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=29404 Moeller drama]
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| *[http://web.reed.edu/reed_magazine/june2010/features/deconstructing_wikipedia/index.html June Interview gets posted on May 12]
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| {{Business}}
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| {{Wikipedos}}
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