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Hey Michael, why didn't you leak this item from the 300 Club?
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.ch/f/f...mins_112510.png
That information is already available publicly on ED. If you believe that I'm afraid of having my information publicly posted on ED, then you're wrong. I'm not intimidated.
That information is already available publicly on ED. If you believe that I'm afraid of having my information publicly posted on ED, then you're wrong. I'm not intimidated.
Good to hear. Can you post some higher resolution pictures of yourself please. Also your home address, phone number and cell number. Thank you.
Jesus christ you are such a hypocritical little cunt. You have made a virtual living on exposing real-life identities of Wikipedia admins, and therefore have no standing at all to call out others.
No, that's not true. Brandt didn't start that fight. He didn't start outing WP admins until after they went after him on WP and especially irc, hiding behind their screen names while viciously insulting him. ED is doing the same thing.
Tarc, you begrudge the guy defending himself by simply identifying the people who are attacking him? But you have no words for the sociopaths who are maligning him to the whole world for no good cause? What exactly is wrong with you? Brandt isn't hiding behind screen names - it's the people who attack him that are. They squeal like stuck pigs when outed - can you figure out why? Seriously Tarc, just exactly how stupid are you?
ATTENTION: Everyone is free to leak!
In a world where penises (including under-aged ones) just want to be free, what else can be expected?
ED-wankers are just as full of shit as WP-wankers. What a shock. <_<
Tarc, you begrudge the guy defending himself by simply identifying the people who are attacking him? But you have no words for the sociopaths who are maligning him to the whole world for no good cause? What exactly is wrong with you?
To quote his nemesis, he's a "Jimbo juice chugger."
No, that's not true. Brandt didn't start that fight. He didn't start outing WP admins until after they went after him on WP and especially irc, hiding behind their screen names while viciously insulting him. ED is doing the same thing.
The "but they started it!" defense? What are you, 7?
Tarc, you begrudge the guy defending himself by simply identifying the people who are attacking him? But you have no words for the sociopaths who are maligning him to the whole world for no good cause? What exactly is wrong with you? Brandt isn't hiding behind screen names - it's the people who attack him that are. They squeal like stuck pigs when outed - can you figure out why?
Daniel Brandt is a fat butterball sitting behind a computer screen 24/7, dishing out personal info of his enemies, then cries like a baby when the karma returns threefold. No different from those that he hates. More on that below.
Lulz. See, that's the problem with the WR crowd of your bent; you slack-jawed retards truly buy into that "white hat" icon up the top of the page there. You actually think you're the good guys. You're not, you're assholes and unstable psychotics no different than the passionate "jimbo juicers" that you pretend to hate.
In the several years I have been visiting this hole in the wall, it has never ceased to amaze me just how alike you and the Wiki honchos really are.
I have never been on "your" side, nor have I been on "their" side. Frankly, you're all pathetic.
What kind of a man doesn't defend himself? you of all people, tarc, who just threatened to 'break someone's neck like a chicken bone' ... If you make no distinction between aggressors and people defending themselves, then you have no morals and are an idiot.
But let me go further - Daniel Brant didn't pull anything sleazy, he didn't include any insults in 'the hive mind', only the identities of people maligning him and selected quotes they made. Morally, I honestly don't understand how you can fault the guy.
Lulz. See, that's the problem with the WR crowd of your bent; you slack-jawed retards truly buy into that "white hat" icon up the top of the page there. You actually think you're the good guys. You're not, you're assholes and unstable psychotics no different than the passionate "jimbo juicers" that you pretend to hate.
This guy should be keeping Ottava company.
You, like others, misread the situation. I gave Kohs a simple condition; if one thing happens, then another thing will result. It is entirely up to him whether he wants to test it.
For the record, I'm not against the idea of the hive mind, what I'm against is the hypocrisy. Whatever the reason is, if you're going to plaster people's names and locations and images on a website, then you can't whine when others do the same to you. Brandt decided to play dirty, he has to accept the mud coming in return.
Which sock are you wearing now?
You got your cause and effect flip-flopped, Einstein.
You got your cause and effect flip-flopped, Einstein.
I really don't buy into Brandt's victim-card plays, but whatever, going back and forth on it won't lead anywhere.
And as I noted elsewhere, this isn't the ED Review; Brandt-vs-ED eDrama really shouldn't concern this website in the slightest.
The lesson here, for prospective internet tough guys, is that there's always someone tougher.
I'll remember that, the next time I threaten to snap someone's neck like a chicken bone. Oh, wait, we were talking about Brandt, who isn't playing any kind of "internet tough guy" role that I am familiar with. Perhaps you were thinking of something else?
The lesson here, for prospective internet tough guys, is that there's always someone tougher.
I'll remember that, the next time I threaten to snap someone's neck like a chicken bone.
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I'd say he pretty much nailed it. Esp the blackmailing angle, I'd forgotten about that.
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A man's privacy is being invaded, his name ridiculed on ED - so he, Gasp, threatens to name people who are responsibility for it. How DARE he. Get the pitchforks!
Also, Alison was an administrator on ED for a time. You'll have a hard time convincing me she's a victim here.
Still pissed that she wouldn't friend you on failbook, I presume? :)
Hey, I've got a great idea! Why don't you guys start an anti-ED forum?
Then you can rant at each other to no avail, as much as you wish, over ED and Brandt?
How is it that a forum supposedly dedicated to Wikipedia discussion is becoming the
Brandt-outed-me-or-ED-outed-me Butthurt forum?In the old days, it seems a lot of people here were cheering Brandt on for being a thorn in the side of the WP cabals. He caused lots of drama, which is (?) what ED documents. I've never really understood either side of the conflict, but it's certainly somehow related to WR, even if only as a kind of historical artifact. :shrug:
Pissed? No, Alison doesn't rate high enough on my scale for her to affect me that much. I got a facebook account just so I could comment on an Examiner article and friended everyone from WR I recognized. Most replied positively, one politely declined but we had a nice chat, and Alison came here whooping it up, implying that I was trying to stalk her. :bored:
The point is moot though, my account is locked until I give them a cell phone number.
Anyway, a while back I really gave it to Alison - that might explain a few things. Another is the fact that she used to be a administrator at ED - what kind of decent self-respecting person does that ?
In the old days, it seems a lot of people here were cheering Brandt on for being a thorn in the side of the WP cabals. He caused lots of drama, which is (?) what ED documents. I've never really understood either side of the conflict, but it's certainly somehow related to WR, even if only as a kind of historical artifact. :shrug:
That's just it: it's historical. ED was dropped like a hot rock by its founders, and picked up by people
who are evidently incapable of feeling pain. But its heyday, 2006-07, is long gone. That was when
disgruntled Wikipedia editors, including Grawp, Alison, and many others, were going to ED to vent
their spleens. Whatever real content there was (even the funny and trollish parts) is probably going
to start being chopped into hash by the new order, a bunch of hacker dorks with emotional retardation
and yank-my-peepee senses of humor (if they have any sense of humor at all). So I suspect you can
count on seeing ED decline, like Wikipedia but much more accelerated. The trolls won, and they don't
give a rat's balls about "content".
Oh come on, why not? This is the internet, man! We make our own goddamn rules! Nobody can tell us what to do, right? If we want to whine about people plastering our names and locations on a website after we've done the exact same thing to them at some point or other, what's to stop us? You? What are you gonna do, snap our necks like chicken bones? Is that really all you got? You're gonna have to do a little better than that, Mr. Tarc!
Remember, I have no neck. Your little revenge fantasies won't work on me, I'm tellin' ya right now.
And let me conclude by saying that you're a deeply, deeply silly person, and I'm not inviting you to my house for knishes any time soon.
Oh come on, why not? This is the internet, man! We make our own goddamn rules! Nobody can tell us what to do, right? If we want to whine about people plastering our names and locations on a website after we've done the exact same thing to them at some point or other, what's to stop us? You? What are you gonna do, snap our necks like chicken bones? Is that really all you got? You're gonna have to do a little better than that, Mr. Tarc!
Remember, I have no neck. Your little revenge fantasies won't work on me, I'm tellin' ya right now.
And let me conclude by saying that you're a deeply, deeply silly person, and I'm not inviting you to my house for knishes any time soon.
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DeHippo dropped ED because she saw an opportunity to rake in ad banner revenue on a work-safe ohinternet.
There was no altruism involved, just the paper.
DeHippo dropped ED because she saw an opportunity to rake in ad banner revenue on a work-safe ohinternet.
Sherrod dropped ED because there wasn't any joy in running it anymore; it wasn't about the money.
what a wonderful human being.
Sherrod dropped ED because there wasn't any joy in running it anymore; it wasn't about the money.
So why are you still involved? Do you still find joy? Or do you need the money?
Wow, first there was the comment about Namebase "discriminating against people" by operating behind a paywall, and now this! I never thought you were so self-delusional before... was I just imagining it?
Frankly, this is the sort of thing that has me still believing that the world wide web, after 20+ years, remains a net-negative for society. Mind you, I'm not saying bogus justifications and false rationales didn't exist before 1992, but it was a LOT more expensive to act on them (and publish things based on them) back in the old days.
DeHippo dropped ED because she saw an opportunity to rake in ad banner revenue on a work-safe ohinternet.
Sherrod dropped ED because there wasn't any joy in running it anymore; it wasn't about the money.
Yes, ED was such an altruistic venture.
Wow, first there was the comment about Namebase "discriminating against people" by operating behind a paywall, and now this! I never thought you were so self-delusional before... was I just imagining it?
Frankly, this is the sort of thing that has me still believing that the world wide web, after 20+ years, remains a net-negative for society. Mind you, I'm not saying bogus justifications and false rationales didn't exist before 1992, but it was a LOT more expensive to act on them (and publish things based on them) back in the old days.
I didn't archive any NameBase pages that required payment or a subscription in order to access. Brandt nullrouted links to name.org from Wikipedia. He said that Wikipedians couldn't access NameBase at all; he didn't start demanding that Wikipedians pay in order to enter.
http://books.google.com/books?id=cbWNirl8gsMC&pg=PT141:
http://books.google.com/books?id=cbWNirl8gsMC&pg=PT142:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfQBN9oGAxI#t=1m10s
Even Brandt knows that the depletion of joy is what drove Sherrod to close ED:
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=272804
I'm not saying that Sherrod is a good person; I'm simply stating the facts and correcting a common misconception.
Wow, first there was the comment about Namebase "discriminating against people" by operating behind a paywall, and now this! I never thought you were so self-delusional before... was I just imagining it?
Frankly, this is the sort of thing that has me still believing that the world wide web, after 20+ years, remains a net-negative for society. Mind you, I'm not saying bogus justifications and false rationales didn't exist before 1992, but it was a LOT more expensive to act on them (and publish things based on them) back in the old days.
I didn't archive any NameBase pages that required payment or a subscription in order to access. Brandt nullrouted links to name.org from Wikipedia. He said that Wikipedians couldn't access NameBase at all; he didn't start demanding that Wikipedians pay in order to enter.
It is his right to nullroute his website, even if it's out of pettiness. It is not your right to violate his copyright by copying and pasting it somewhere else. Don't you get that? Why do you think Wikipedia has a god-given right to link to material owned by people who don't want Wikipedia linking to it?
He's an ED administrator.
ATTENTION: Everyone is free to leak! Right now any claim to privacy within the 300 Club is a huge misrepresentation by the staff of WR, as they invite the leaker back into WR as an esteemed member. Why not just open up the 300 Club to Google? It would be more honest. (Never mind, most of it is probably on Google by now anyway.)
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Wikipedia_..._Michael_Suarez
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/File:Danie...dtKiraWales.png
Not even the Tarpit is safe from the leaks.
ATTENTION: Everyone is free to leak! Right now any claim to privacy within the 300 Club is a huge misrepresentation by the staff of WR, as they invite the leaker back into WR as an esteemed member. Why not just open up the 300 Club to Google? It would be more honest. (Never mind, most of it is probably on Google by now anyway.)
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Wikipedia_..._Michael_Suarez
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/File:Danie...dtKiraWales.png
Not even the Tarpit is safe from the leaks.
Wow. Important work you're doing there.
I should buy you a ticket to Moscow so you can expose Putin's excesses the same way.
ATTENTION: Everyone is free to leak! Right now any claim to privacy within the 300 Club is a huge misrepresentation by the staff of WR, as they invite the leaker back into WR as an esteemed member. Why not just open up the 300 Club to Google? It would be more honest. (Never mind, most of it is probably on Google by now anyway.)
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Wikipedia_..._Michael_Suarez
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/File:Danie...dtKiraWales.png
Not even the Tarpit is safe from the leaks.
Wow. Important work you're doing there.
I should buy you a ticket to Moscow so you can expose Putin's excesses the same way.
Highlighting Brandt's general douchebaggery is always important.
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Latest revision as of 13:10, 23 March 2017
Full Version: Brandt vs. Michael Suarez
Daniel Brandt
Sat 25th February 2012, 9:48am
From the contributions page of JuniusThaddeus ( aka Michaeldsuarez ) on encyclopediadramatica.ch:
And it also gets leaked to journalists (from User:Michaeldsuarez on Wikipedia):
ATTENTION: Everyone is free to leak! Right now any claim to privacy within the 300 Club is a huge misrepresentation by the staff of WR, as they invite the leaker back into WR as an esteemed member. Why not just open up the 300 Club to Google? It would be more honest. (Never mind, most of it is probably on Google by now anyway.)
Hey Michael, why didn't you leak this item from the 300 Club?
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# 18:32, 24 February 2012 (diff | hist) Silver Seren ? (Leaked from the 300 Club.)
# 18:29, 24 February 2012 (diff | hist) The Wikipedia Review ? (?Leaked secret threads: Adding.)
# 21:36, 15 February 2012 (diff | hist) The Wikipedia Review ? (?Leaked secret threads: Date.)
# 13:52, 15 February 2012 (diff | hist) The Wikipedia Review ? (?Leaked secret threads: One more.)
# 01:27, 15 February 2012 (diff | hist) The Wikipedia Review ? (?Leaked secret threads: Loose lips sink ships.)
# 14:15, 13 February 2012 (diff | hist) Timothy Usher ? (?See also: Leaked Wikipedia Review threads.)
# 14:12, 13 February 2012 (diff | hist) Daniel Brandt ? (?See also: Leaked Wikipedia review threads.)
# 14:09, 13 February 2012 (diff | hist) The Wikipedia Review ? (Leaked threats.)
# 18:29, 24 February 2012 (diff | hist) The Wikipedia Review ? (?Leaked secret threads: Adding.)
# 21:36, 15 February 2012 (diff | hist) The Wikipedia Review ? (?Leaked secret threads: Date.)
# 13:52, 15 February 2012 (diff | hist) The Wikipedia Review ? (?Leaked secret threads: One more.)
# 01:27, 15 February 2012 (diff | hist) The Wikipedia Review ? (?Leaked secret threads: Loose lips sink ships.)
# 14:15, 13 February 2012 (diff | hist) Timothy Usher ? (?See also: Leaked Wikipedia Review threads.)
# 14:12, 13 February 2012 (diff | hist) Daniel Brandt ? (?See also: Leaked Wikipedia review threads.)
# 14:09, 13 February 2012 (diff | hist) The Wikipedia Review ? (Leaked threats.)
And it also gets leaked to journalists (from User:Michaeldsuarez on Wikipedia):
QUOTE
"Scroogle May Have Been a Victim of Hackers, Not Google" by Adrianne Jeffries - Betabeat (I'm credited as a "tipster").
ATTENTION: Everyone is free to leak! Right now any claim to privacy within the 300 Club is a huge misrepresentation by the staff of WR, as they invite the leaker back into WR as an esteemed member. Why not just open up the 300 Club to Google? It would be more honest. (Never mind, most of it is probably on Google by now anyway.)
Hey Michael, why didn't you leak this item from the 300 Club?
Michael D. Suarez
West Islip, New York
Born: Dec 24, 1989
West Islip, New York
Born: Dec 24, 1989
Michaeldsuarez
Sat 25th February 2012, 10:48am
QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sat 25th February 2012, 9:48am) *
Hey Michael, why didn't you leak this item from the 300 Club?
Michael D. Suarez
West Islip, New York
Born: Dec 24, 1989
West Islip, New York
Born: Dec 24, 1989
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.ch/f/f...mins_112510.png
That information is already available publicly on ED. If you believe that I'm afraid of having my information publicly posted on ED, then you're wrong. I'm not intimidated.
TungstenCarbide
Sat 25th February 2012, 11:19am
QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Sat 25th February 2012, 3:48pm) *
QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sat 25th February 2012, 9:48am) *
Hey Michael, why didn't you leak this item from the 300 Club?
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.ch/f/f...mins_112510.pngMichael D. Suarez
West Islip, New York
Born: Dec 24, 1989
West Islip, New York
Born: Dec 24, 1989
That information is already available publicly on ED. If you believe that I'm afraid of having my information publicly posted on ED, then you're wrong. I'm not intimidated.
Good to hear. Can you post some higher resolution pictures of yourself please. Also your home address, phone number and cell number. Thank you.
Tarc
Sat 25th February 2012, 11:38am
QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sat 25th February 2012, 9:48am) *
ATTENTION: Everyone is free to leak! Right now any claim to privacy within the 300 Club is a huge misrepresentation by the staff of WR, as they invite the leaker back into WR as an esteemed member. Why not just open up the 300 Club to Google? It would be more honest. (Never mind, most of it is probably on Google by now anyway.)
Jesus christ you are such a hypocritical little cunt. You have made a virtual living on exposing real-life identities of Wikipedia admins, and therefore have no standing at all to call out others.
TungstenCarbide
Sat 25th February 2012, 11:56am
QUOTE(Tarc @ Sat 25th February 2012, 4:38pm) *
QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sat 25th February 2012, 9:48am) *
ATTENTION: Everyone is free to leak! Right now any claim to privacy within the 300 Club is a huge misrepresentation by the staff of WR, as they invite the leaker back into WR as an esteemed member. Why not just open up the 300 Club to Google? It would be more honest. (Never mind, most of it is probably on Google by now anyway.)
Jesus christ you are such a hypocritical little cunt. You have made a virtual living on exposing real-life identities of Wikipedia admins, and therefore have no standing at all to call out others.No, that's not true. Brandt didn't start that fight. He didn't start outing WP admins until after they went after him on WP and especially irc, hiding behind their screen names while viciously insulting him. ED is doing the same thing.
Tarc, you begrudge the guy defending himself by simply identifying the people who are attacking him? But you have no words for the sociopaths who are maligning him to the whole world for no good cause? What exactly is wrong with you? Brandt isn't hiding behind screen names - it's the people who attack him that are. They squeal like stuck pigs when outed - can you figure out why? Seriously Tarc, just exactly how stupid are you?
Cedric
Sat 25th February 2012, 12:08pm
QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sat 25th February 2012, 8:48am) *
ATTENTION: Everyone is free to leak!
In a world where penises (including under-aged ones) just want to be free, what else can be expected?
ED-wankers are just as full of shit as WP-wankers. What a shock. <_<
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Sat 25th February 2012, 10:56am) *
Tarc, you begrudge the guy defending himself by simply identifying the people who are attacking him? But you have no words for the sociopaths who are maligning him to the whole world for no good cause? What exactly is wrong with you?
To quote his nemesis, he's a "Jimbo juice chugger."
It's the blimp, Frank
Sat 25th February 2012, 12:10pm
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Tarc
Sat 25th February 2012, 10:45pm
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Sat 25th February 2012, 11:56am) *
No, that's not true. Brandt didn't start that fight. He didn't start outing WP admins until after they went after him on WP and especially irc, hiding behind their screen names while viciously insulting him. ED is doing the same thing.
The "but they started it!" defense? What are you, 7?
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Tarc, you begrudge the guy defending himself by simply identifying the people who are attacking him? But you have no words for the sociopaths who are maligning him to the whole world for no good cause? What exactly is wrong with you? Brandt isn't hiding behind screen names - it's the people who attack him that are. They squeal like stuck pigs when outed - can you figure out why?
Daniel Brandt is a fat butterball sitting behind a computer screen 24/7, dishing out personal info of his enemies, then cries like a baby when the karma returns threefold. No different from those that he hates. More on that below.
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Seriously Tarc, just exactly how stupid are you?
Lulz. See, that's the problem with the WR crowd of your bent; you slack-jawed retards truly buy into that "white hat" icon up the top of the page there. You actually think you're the good guys. You're not, you're assholes and unstable psychotics no different than the passionate "jimbo juicers" that you pretend to hate.
In the several years I have been visiting this hole in the wall, it has never ceased to amaze me just how alike you and the Wiki honchos really are.
I have never been on "your" side, nor have I been on "their" side. Frankly, you're all pathetic.
TungstenCarbide
Sat 25th February 2012, 10:56pm
QUOTE(Tarc @ Sun 26th February 2012, 3:45am) *
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Sat 25th February 2012, 11:56am) *
No, that's not true. Brandt didn't start that fight. He didn't start outing WP admins until after they went after him on WP and especially irc, hiding behind their screen names while viciously insulting him. ED is doing the same thing.
The "but they started it!" defense? What are you, 7?What kind of a man doesn't defend himself? you of all people, tarc, who just threatened to 'break someone's neck like a chicken bone' ... If you make no distinction between aggressors and people defending themselves, then you have no morals and are an idiot.
But let me go further - Daniel Brant didn't pull anything sleazy, he didn't include any insults in 'the hive mind', only the identities of people maligning him and selected quotes they made. Morally, I honestly don't understand how you can fault the guy.
It's the blimp, Frank
Sat 25th February 2012, 11:02pm
QUOTE(Tarc @ Sun 26th February 2012, 3:45am) *
Lulz. See, that's the problem with the WR crowd of your bent; you slack-jawed retards truly buy into that "white hat" icon up the top of the page there. You actually think you're the good guys. You're not, you're assholes and unstable psychotics no different than the passionate "jimbo juicers" that you pretend to hate.
This guy should be keeping Ottava company.
Tarc
Sat 25th February 2012, 11:39pm
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Sat 25th February 2012, 10:56pm) *
What kind of a man doesn't defend himself? you of all people, tarc, who just threatened to 'break someone's neck like a chicken bone' ...
You, like others, misread the situation. I gave Kohs a simple condition; if one thing happens, then another thing will result. It is entirely up to him whether he wants to test it.
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If you make no distinction between aggressors and people defending themselves, then you have no morals and are an idiot.
But let me go further - Daniel Brant didn't pull anything sleazy, he didn't include any insults in 'the hive mind', only the identities of people maligning him and selected quotes they made. Morally, I honestly don't understand how you can fault the guy.
But let me go further - Daniel Brant didn't pull anything sleazy, he didn't include any insults in 'the hive mind', only the identities of people maligning him and selected quotes they made. Morally, I honestly don't understand how you can fault the guy.
For the record, I'm not against the idea of the hive mind, what I'm against is the hypocrisy. Whatever the reason is, if you're going to plaster people's names and locations and images on a website, then you can't whine when others do the same to you. Brandt decided to play dirty, he has to accept the mud coming in return.
QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Sat 25th February 2012, 11:02pm) *
This guy should be keeping Ottava company.
Which sock are you wearing now?
TungstenCarbide
Sat 25th February 2012, 11:44pm
QUOTE(Tarc @ Sun 26th February 2012, 4:39am) *
For the record, I'm not against the idea of the hive mind, what I'm against is the hypocrisy. Whatever the reason is, if you're going to plaster people's names and locations and images on a website, then you can't whine when others do the same to you.
You got your cause and effect flip-flopped, Einstein.
Tarc
Sat 25th February 2012, 11:50pm
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Sat 25th February 2012, 11:44pm) *
QUOTE(Tarc @ Sun 26th February 2012, 4:39am) *
For the record, I'm not against the idea of the hive mind, what I'm against is the hypocrisy. Whatever the reason is, if you're going to plaster people's names and locations and images on a website, then you can't whine when others do the same to you.
You got your cause and effect flip-flopped, Einstein.
I really don't buy into Brandt's victim-card plays, but whatever, going back and forth on it won't lead anywhere.
And as I noted elsewhere, this isn't the ED Review; Brandt-vs-ED eDrama really shouldn't concern this website in the slightest.
cyofee
Sun 26th February 2012, 6:14am
Regardless of what Brandt's motivations were when he started the Hivemind, he's lost his moral high ground long ago. Many of the people whose info he published did nothing to Brandt or to his WP bio. Take Alison, Newyorkbrad or Lar for some examples. Remember how Brandt blackmailed them and others with listing and delisting on his wall of shame. The saddest thing was that he wouldn't even stay bought - even if people he blackmailed did what he asked for, they'd soon find themselves on the Hivemind again on minute pretexts.
The lesson here, for prospective internet tough guys, is that there's always someone tougher.
carbuncle
Sun 26th February 2012, 9:53am
QUOTE(cyofee @ Sun 26th February 2012, 11:14am) *
The lesson here, for prospective internet tough guys, is that there's always someone tougher.
I'll remember that, the next time I threaten to snap someone's neck like a chicken bone. Oh, wait, we were talking about Brandt, who isn't playing any kind of "internet tough guy" role that I am familiar with. Perhaps you were thinking of something else?
Tarc
Sun 26th February 2012, 4:47pm
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sun 26th February 2012, 9:53am) *
QUOTE(cyofee @ Sun 26th February 2012, 11:14am) *
The lesson here, for prospective internet tough guys, is that there's always someone tougher.
I'll remember that, the next time I threaten to snap someone's neck like a chicken bone.
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Oh, wait, we were talking about Brandt, who isn't playing any kind of "internet tough guy" role that I am familiar with. Perhaps you were thinking of something else?
I'd say he pretty much nailed it. Esp the blackmailing angle, I'd forgotten about that.
TungstenCarbide
Sun 26th February 2012, 5:08pm
QUOTE(Tarc @ Sun 26th February 2012, 9:47pm) *
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sun 26th February 2012, 9:53am) *
QUOTE(cyofee @ Sun 26th February 2012, 11:14am) *
The lesson here, for prospective internet tough guys, is that there's always someone tougher.
I'll remember that, the next time I threaten to snap someone's neck like a chicken bone. QUOTE
Oh, wait, we were talking about Brandt, who isn't playing any kind of "internet tough guy" role that I am familiar with. Perhaps you were thinking of something else?
I'd say he pretty much nailed it. Esp the blackmailing angle, I'd forgotten about that.A man's privacy is being invaded, his name ridiculed on ED - so he, Gasp, threatens to name people who are responsibility for it. How DARE he. Get the pitchforks!
Also, Alison was an administrator on ED for a time. You'll have a hard time convincing me she's a victim here.
EricBarbour
Sun 26th February 2012, 5:23pm
Hey, I've got a great idea! Why don't you guys start an anti-ED forum?
Then you can rant at each other to no avail, as much as you wish, over ED and Brandt?
How is it that a forum supposedly dedicated to Wikipedia discussion is becoming the
Brandt-outed-me-or-ED-outed-me Butthurt forum?
SB_Johnny
Sun 26th February 2012, 7:55pm
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Sun 26th February 2012, 5:08pm) *
Also, Alison was an administrator on ED for a time. You'll have a hard time convincing me she's a victim here.
Still pissed that she wouldn't friend you on failbook, I presume? :)
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sun 26th February 2012, 5:23pm) *
Hey, I've got a great idea! Why don't you guys start an anti-ED forum?
Then you can rant at each other to no avail, as much as you wish, over ED and Brandt?
How is it that a forum supposedly dedicated to Wikipedia discussion is becoming the
Brandt-outed-me-or-ED-outed-me Butthurt forum?
TungstenCarbide
Sun 26th February 2012, 8:21pm
QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Mon 27th February 2012, 12:55am) *
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Sun 26th February 2012, 5:08pm) *
Also, Alison was an administrator on ED for a time. You'll have a hard time convincing me she's a victim here.
Still pissed that she wouldn't friend you on failbook, I presume? :)The point is moot though, my account is locked until I give them a cell phone number.
Anyway, a while back I really gave it to Alison - that might explain a few things. Another is the fact that she used to be a administrator at ED - what kind of decent self-respecting person does that ?
EricBarbour
Sun 26th February 2012, 11:30pm
QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 26th February 2012, 4:55pm) *
In the old days, it seems a lot of people here were cheering Brandt on for being a thorn in the side of the WP cabals. He caused lots of drama, which is (?) what ED documents. I've never really understood either side of the conflict, but it's certainly somehow related to WR, even if only as a kind of historical artifact. :shrug:
That's just it: it's historical. ED was dropped like a hot rock by its founders, and picked up by people
who are evidently incapable of feeling pain. But its heyday, 2006-07, is long gone. That was when
disgruntled Wikipedia editors, including Grawp, Alison, and many others, were going to ED to vent
their spleens. Whatever real content there was (even the funny and trollish parts) is probably going
to start being chopped into hash by the new order, a bunch of hacker dorks with emotional retardation
and yank-my-peepee senses of humor (if they have any sense of humor at all). So I suspect you can
count on seeing ED decline, like Wikipedia but much more accelerated. The trolls won, and they don't
give a rat's balls about "content".
Somey
Tue 28th February 2012, 4:49am
QUOTE(Tarc @ Sat 25th February 2012, 10:39pm) *
For the record, I'm not against the idea of the hive mind, what I'm against is the hypocrisy. Whatever the reason is, if you're going to plaster people's names and locations and images on a website, then you can't whine when others do the same to you.
Oh come on, why not? This is the internet, man! We make our own goddamn rules! Nobody can tell us what to do, right? If we want to whine about people plastering our names and locations on a website after we've done the exact same thing to them at some point or other, what's to stop us? You? What are you gonna do, snap our necks like chicken bones? Is that really all you got? You're gonna have to do a little better than that, Mr. Tarc!
Remember, I have no neck. Your little revenge fantasies won't work on me, I'm tellin' ya right now.
And let me conclude by saying that you're a deeply, deeply silly person, and I'm not inviting you to my house for knishes any time soon.
Tarc
Tue 28th February 2012, 12:05pm
QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 28th February 2012, 4:49am) *
QUOTE(Tarc @ Sat 25th February 2012, 10:39pm) *
For the record, I'm not against the idea of the hive mind, what I'm against is the hypocrisy. Whatever the reason is, if you're going to plaster people's names and locations and images on a website, then you can't whine when others do the same to you.
Oh come on, why not? This is the internet, man! We make our own goddamn rules! Nobody can tell us what to do, right? If we want to whine about people plastering our names and locations on a website after we've done the exact same thing to them at some point or other, what's to stop us? You? What are you gonna do, snap our necks like chicken bones? Is that really all you got? You're gonna have to do a little better than that, Mr. Tarc!
Remember, I have no neck. Your little revenge fantasies won't work on me, I'm tellin' ya right now.
And let me conclude by saying that you're a deeply, deeply silly person, and I'm not inviting you to my house for knishes any time soon.
Image
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sun 26th February 2012, 11:30pm) *
That's just it: it's historical. ED was dropped like a hot rock by its founders, and picked up by people
who are evidently incapable of feeling pain. But its heyday, 2006-07, is long gone
who are evidently incapable of feeling pain. But its heyday, 2006-07, is long gone
DeHippo dropped ED because she saw an opportunity to rake in ad banner revenue on a work-safe ohinternet.
There was no altruism involved, just the paper.
Michaeldsuarez
Tue 28th February 2012, 12:48pm
QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 28th February 2012, 12:05pm) *
DeHippo dropped ED because she saw an opportunity to rake in ad banner revenue on a work-safe ohinternet.
Sherrod dropped ED because there wasn't any joy in running it anymore; it wasn't about the money.
TungstenCarbide
Tue 28th February 2012, 12:58pm
QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Tue 28th February 2012, 5:48pm) *
QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 28th February 2012, 12:05pm) *
DeHippo dropped ED because she saw an opportunity to rake in ad banner revenue on a work-safe ohinternet.
Sherrod dropped ED because there wasn't any joy in running it anymore; it wasn't about the money.what a wonderful human being.
Detective
Tue 28th February 2012, 5:52pm
QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Tue 28th February 2012, 5:48pm) *
Sherrod dropped ED because there wasn't any joy in running it anymore; it wasn't about the money.
So why are you still involved? Do you still find joy? Or do you need the money?
Somey
Tue 28th February 2012, 5:58pm
QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Tue 28th February 2012, 11:48am) *
Sherrod dropped ED because there wasn't any joy in running it anymore; it wasn't about the money.
Wow, first there was the comment about Namebase "discriminating against people" by operating behind a paywall, and now this! I never thought you were so self-delusional before... was I just imagining it?
Frankly, this is the sort of thing that has me still believing that the world wide web, after 20+ years, remains a net-negative for society. Mind you, I'm not saying bogus justifications and false rationales didn't exist before 1992, but it was a LOT more expensive to act on them (and publish things based on them) back in the old days.
Heat
Tue 28th February 2012, 8:39pm
QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Tue 28th February 2012, 5:48pm) *
QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 28th February 2012, 12:05pm) *
DeHippo dropped ED because she saw an opportunity to rake in ad banner revenue on a work-safe ohinternet.
Sherrod dropped ED because there wasn't any joy in running it anymore; it wasn't about the money.
Yes, ED was such an altruistic venture.
Michaeldsuarez
Wed 29th February 2012, 8:42pm
QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 28th February 2012, 5:58pm) *
QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Tue 28th February 2012, 11:48am) *
Sherrod dropped ED because there wasn't any joy in running it anymore; it wasn't about the money.
Wow, first there was the comment about Namebase "discriminating against people" by operating behind a paywall, and now this! I never thought you were so self-delusional before... was I just imagining it?
Frankly, this is the sort of thing that has me still believing that the world wide web, after 20+ years, remains a net-negative for society. Mind you, I'm not saying bogus justifications and false rationales didn't exist before 1992, but it was a LOT more expensive to act on them (and publish things based on them) back in the old days.
I didn't archive any NameBase pages that required payment or a subscription in order to access. Brandt nullrouted links to name.org from Wikipedia. He said that Wikipedians couldn't access NameBase at all; he didn't start demanding that Wikipedians pay in order to enter.
http://books.google.com/books?id=cbWNirl8gsMC&pg=PT141:
QUOTE
When the focus of Encyclopedia Dramatica shifted away from LiveJournal, that's when DeGrippo stopped having fun. She kept paying for server space because she thought maybe it might turn back around to focus on lighthearted, sarcastic LJ drama again, rather than the mean-spirited trolling of 4chan.
http://books.google.com/books?id=cbWNirl8gsMC&pg=PT142:
QUOTE
DeGrippo came to hate ED, so in April 2011, she killed it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfQBN9oGAxI#t=1m10s
Even Brandt knows that the depletion of joy is what drove Sherrod to close ED:
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=272804
I'm not saying that Sherrod is a good person; I'm simply stating the facts and correcting a common misconception.
Heat
Wed 29th February 2012, 9:05pm
QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Thu 1st March 2012, 1:42am) *
QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 28th February 2012, 5:58pm) *
QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Tue 28th February 2012, 11:48am) *
Sherrod dropped ED because there wasn't any joy in running it anymore; it wasn't about the money.
Wow, first there was the comment about Namebase "discriminating against people" by operating behind a paywall, and now this! I never thought you were so self-delusional before... was I just imagining it?
Frankly, this is the sort of thing that has me still believing that the world wide web, after 20+ years, remains a net-negative for society. Mind you, I'm not saying bogus justifications and false rationales didn't exist before 1992, but it was a LOT more expensive to act on them (and publish things based on them) back in the old days.
I didn't archive any NameBase pages that required payment or a subscription in order to access. Brandt nullrouted links to name.org from Wikipedia. He said that Wikipedians couldn't access NameBase at all; he didn't start demanding that Wikipedians pay in order to enter.
It is his right to nullroute his website, even if it's out of pettiness. It is not your right to violate his copyright by copying and pasting it somewhere else. Don't you get that? Why do you think Wikipedia has a god-given right to link to material owned by people who don't want Wikipedia linking to it?
TungstenCarbide
Wed 29th February 2012, 9:07pm
QUOTE(Heat @ Thu 1st March 2012, 2:05am) *
It is not your right to violate his copyright by copying and pasting it somewhere else. Don't you get that?
He's an ED administrator.
Michaeldsuarez
Fri 2nd March 2012, 10:07am
QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sat 25th February 2012, 9:48am) *
ATTENTION: Everyone is free to leak! Right now any claim to privacy within the 300 Club is a huge misrepresentation by the staff of WR, as they invite the leaker back into WR as an esteemed member. Why not just open up the 300 Club to Google? It would be more honest. (Never mind, most of it is probably on Google by now anyway.)
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Wikipedia_..._Michael_Suarez
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/File:Danie...dtKiraWales.png
Not even the Tarpit is safe from the leaks.
Zoloft
Fri 2nd March 2012, 12:18pm
QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Fri 2nd March 2012, 7:07am) *
QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sat 25th February 2012, 9:48am) *
ATTENTION: Everyone is free to leak! Right now any claim to privacy within the 300 Club is a huge misrepresentation by the staff of WR, as they invite the leaker back into WR as an esteemed member. Why not just open up the 300 Club to Google? It would be more honest. (Never mind, most of it is probably on Google by now anyway.)
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Wikipedia_..._Michael_Suarez
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/File:Danie...dtKiraWales.png
Not even the Tarpit is safe from the leaks.
Wow. Important work you're doing there.
I should buy you a ticket to Moscow so you can expose Putin's excesses the same way.
Tarc
Fri 2nd March 2012, 3:45pm
QUOTE(Zoloft @ Fri 2nd March 2012, 12:18pm) *
QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Fri 2nd March 2012, 7:07am) *
QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sat 25th February 2012, 9:48am) *
ATTENTION: Everyone is free to leak! Right now any claim to privacy within the 300 Club is a huge misrepresentation by the staff of WR, as they invite the leaker back into WR as an esteemed member. Why not just open up the 300 Club to Google? It would be more honest. (Never mind, most of it is probably on Google by now anyway.)
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Wikipedia_..._Michael_Suarez
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/File:Danie...dtKiraWales.png
Not even the Tarpit is safe from the leaks.
Wow. Important work you're doing there.
I should buy you a ticket to Moscow so you can expose Putin's excesses the same way.
Highlighting Brandt's general douchebaggery is always important.
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