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So I take it that these people are gay? --[[User:Jackfisher|Jackfisher]] 04:07, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
So I take it that these people are gay? --[[User:Jackfisher|Jackfisher]] 04:07, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
== Re:edit wars ==
First of all, I just want to apologise to the admins of ED. I should have known better than to participate in these retarded edit wars.
As for [[User:Knife|Knife]] and [[User:Jedisociety|Jedisociety]], here's the deal: linking someone's Twitter account in a section that is specifically about that person and the drama they've created on Twitter is not "promotion." It's completely relevant to the article. A bunch of SoK members, including Fred Fuchs, have their Twitter accounts linked at the bottom of the page; as well as the main SoK Twitter account, and their YouTube account. This isn't about "promotion," it's about giving people the opportunity to see the content of the people the article is about. If anything, y'all should be glad that SamxByrne's Twitter is linked on this page, because if there's anything out there that's going to damage her credibility, it's the stream of weeaboo retardation that is her Twitter feed. Exposing Fred Fuchs for the hypocritical jackass that he is is the only worthwhile thing she's ever done. And in case you couldn't guess from that last statement; no, I'm not affiliated with SamxByrne in any way. I saw her bragging about tossing Fred Fuchs on his neck, and decided to investigate, and then posted the results here. - [[User:Queerescent|Queerescent]] 08:13, 23 April 2016 (EDT)
Making a few harmless potshots at Sam, which is either you or your buddy doesn't fool anyone. You claim you linked Sam's twitter so that it can potentially hurt his credibility yet you personally reversed edits that make him look even slightly bad or give a different side to the story like this one: [[https://encyclopediadramatica.se/index.php?title=Sons_of_Kojima&diff=next&oldid=889099]] you are whiteknighting for him. [[User:Knife|Knife]] 19:21, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
:I debated even bothering to deny the fact that I was associated with SamxByrne, because I knew you'd never believe me. I've noticed that you SoK retards have such a hard time believing that you're not dealing with one guy with a hundred sock accounts. You need to realise that everyone but you thinks you're retarded. I reverted that edit because it was bullshit lol. [[User:Jedisociety|Jedisociety]] removes my section about how much of a egotistical cunt Fred Fuchs is, in favour of claims about Sam that weren't even backed with links, and that contradicted the proof I've already provided. There's also the fact that no one gives a shit if someone talks shit about SamxByrne, but people definitely care if you make Fred Fuchs look bad; it's more lulzy. If anyone's a whiteknight here, it's [[User:Jedisociety|Jedisociety]], who couldn't seem to handle the fact that someone was talking shit about Fred Fuchs. Also, I didn't add SamxByrne's Twitter for the purpose of damaging her credibility; as I said, it's relevant to the article. It just happens to have that secondary effect. - [[User:Queerescent|Queerescent]] 20:59, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
Page unlocks in a few minutes. Try not to pick up where you all left off, and instead argue about it here until some kind of a consensus is reached. A word of advice to members of SoK that edit the article: Assuming outright that someone who's added something you don't like to the article is the sock of whatever boogeyman you think is after you is a good way to piss of the regulars users around here, and the mods. If you have a problem with edits then talk about it here. Further, considering that [[Special:Contributions/Queerescent|Queerescent]] has a history of good edits here on the wiki dating back to last year I believe it's safe to assume they are not whomever you're assuming they are, nor are they white-knighting this person. [[File:PoshBlastoise.gif|25px|link=User:BakaRed]][[User_talk:BakaRed|<span style="background-color:red; color:white;">'''Talk'''</span>]] 03:44, 25 April 2016 (EDT)
If that is the case, i apologise to [[user:Queerescent|queerescent]] from the sheer way that article was written, i was dead set it was Sam's doing and an attempt to brag about it for the sake of relevance. But this clears it up and i suppose the point about all the weeb shit on there is correct. I had my eye on that person when they were causing all sorts of garbage on twitter and YT. And writing a bragging ED section for themselves was honestly what i would expect of them. By the way i am not SoK and don't really like Fred, think he's a douchebag trying to be moral police. But he does not compare to what Sam is. The edits i made were mostly to check how butthurt Sam would get over them. I meant to provide more links but it seriously did not take long for undoes to take effect.
[[User:Jedisociety|Jedisociety]] 04:29, 26 April 2016 (EDT)
:It's all good man. I'm partially to blame for this bullshit anyway. I should have talked to you guys directly and explained things instead of just reverting your edits. And I'm also sorry that I assumed you were SoK. And yeah, as someone who had to trawl through Sam's Twitter to get all those links, I know exactly how much of an ass she is. But the drama she caused was pretty good at least. - [[User:Queerescent|Queerescent]] 05:29, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
First off I'd like to make it clear that like [[User:Jedisociety|Jedisociety]] I'm also not in the SOK and I think it is a little paranoid to assume that someone who edits the page because they think someone is promoting themselves is an SOK member.
I'm a bit more in the middle I guess, I'm not going to go through the trouble to do hours of research to edit the page either just to have my edits reversed and told "it isn't lulzy enough" because it may make some of the people other than the SOK look bad, let's be honest everyone involved looks like an autistic faggot, including the people who contributed to the page.
I would just say to [[User:Queerescent|Queerescent]] that it's weird that you would include very limited insulting things about Sam but then police other people throwing jabs at her. Almost like you are the authority on how much someone other than the SOK can get poked fun at in this article.
It's also interesting that you would reverse edits by [[User:Jedisociety|Jedisociety]] because you claim there isn't any proof to back them despite you making several claims without evidence. Monetized charity streams don't have a source at all and seem to be the most damning claim about them. Your Ardnas section reads as though the SOK planned this whole thing to take her down without a single piece of evidence. Queer even just typed out his/her theories on what happened because there was no evidence.
So in total, you seem to hold people to a high standard of proof when it is comes to people other than the SOK and if it is about them then fuck it throw it out there maybe find proof later and if not oh well.
Is that what this article is about? We all know that KingofDivas wrote the original article as a way to get revenge because he was butthurt he got kicked out of their gay little group, since then it is just people with axes to grind writing what amounts to a list of complaints about a group they weren't invited into.
If you guys are actually trying to make a legitimate article about the SOK you should try to find proof. If you guys just want to enable autistic people who are butthurt about being in the DSP community but not invited into the exclusive autistic group of the SOK to come here and air their greiveances then I guess continue on as normal. To me there isn't really anything lulzy, it's written more as an expose article yet does a bad job at that too. [[User:Knife|Knife]] 11:39, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
:I mean, you also accused me of being Sam or one of her friends, so you're not really in a position to be calling others paranoid. I assumed you were SoK because I figured nobody else would even know or care who Sam is, let alone be so adamant about her not being allowed to promote herself.
:If you want to talk shit about SamxByrne that badly then add an addendum or something, I probably would have been okay with that. But I thought [[User:Jedisociety|Jedisociety]] was just trying to make Fred Fuchs look good by altering that section, so I reverted that.
:You are right about me failing to provide hard evidence for a lot of things, a lot of it had to be extrapolated based on circumstantial evidence. The majority of the claims I made are inferences from the proof I did provide. If you feel the monetised charity streams line should be removed, then go ahead. The original authors of this article (apparently not Kingofdivasvlogs, as the above video on this page shows) claimed the charity streams were monetised; and they were (admittedly butthurt) SoK members, so I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on that one. But go ahead and remove it if you care that much.
:About the ardnas thing, I outright say in that part of the article that there isn't enough evidence to say exactly what happened, and then I float a bunch of theories. I gave what little evidence there was. I guess I could have put links to them talking shit about her on Twitter, but I didn't think that was a particularly contentious issue.
:Anyway, whatever. I'm sorry that I accused you of being a part of the SoK. And feel free to improve the article. I only really add stuff to it when something relatively big happens. - [[User:Queerescent|Queerescent]] 14:18, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
== Vand  ==
This article is -maybe?- getting shadow vandalized. Would anyone revise all edits occurred by non editors? --[[User:LIOD|<font style="text-decoration:blink"><font color="#0000A0" face="Kristen ITC"><b>LIOD</b></font></font>]][[File:Phoenix_Emblem.png|26px|link=Special:Contributions/LIOD]] 07:37, 30 March 2017 (EDT)
*From what I see, [[Special:Contributions/JonathangRoss|this person]] is removing information. I don't want to get too hasty though because they seem to have been adding stuff before. If it happens again then I'll do something about it.[[User:Schnitzel|<font style="text-decoration:blink"><font color="#993300" face="Kristen ITC"><b>SCHNITZEL</b></font></font>]][[User Talk:Schnitzel|<font color="#FF6600" face="Agency FB"><b> RADDA RADDA</b></font>]][[File:Schnitzel2.jpg|26px|link=Special:Contributions/Schnitzel]] 10:49, 30 March 2017 (EDT)
::They've done it once, but also contributed a lot. Then again, he also said "Dota 2 for over 700 hours" and that in and of itself deserves a ban. [http://imgur.com/iKpPt1G It takes at least 2,000 to even know how to last hit]. Seriously, though. I don't think it matters which side you take. Nobody cares. Take this opportunity to piss somebody off. U got lots 2 lern {{User:Mike the Great/Sig}} {{User:Mike/Gay time}}16:19, 30 March 2017 (EDT){{User:Mike/Not gay time}}

Latest revision as of 16:14, 16 June 2022

Pease remove this in response from DipShitPhil I am tired of being shitted on remove this page at once.  — Preceding comment added by Darkserpent45 (talkcontribs), who is too much of a fucking retard to sign their own posts. IT'S FOUR TILDES (~~~~), NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!

Fred Fuchs

Did this idiot seriously took his name from AVGN's running gag? Should it go in the article? Rubbyrubber 16:09, 9 March 2015 (EDT)

He did, and even uses a very short clip of AVGN & Mike Matei responding to "Fred Fuchs" from the Castlevania credits sequence as the opener for his JewTube uploads. I'd say it doesn't need to be explained further in the article, anyone checking out his page or videos would recognize the gag or they could always read this Talk page. rex_musca 16:31, 9 March 2015 (EDT)

These faggots are so fucking pathetic

I'm aamazed how much fucking effort these butthurt aspies have put into trying to vandalize this article and turn it into a dick sucking puff piece. I mean, come the fuck on you shitsacks, THIS IS ENCYCLOPEDIA DRAMATICA, we're not going ride your one inch virgin dicks. DarkLordTR --> Talk here, n00bs. 22:46, 9 March 2015 (EDT)

  • I took the time to read most of it, and it reads like a butthurt attack article by a fanboy of whomever Darksydephil is. It won't improve unless we unprotect it, but if we unprotect it the fags will just come back and resume their circle-jerk. I've never heard of these nobodies before, and can't really do much to improve it, so I'm open to suggestions on what should be done with this. Talk | Contribs 14:51, 10 March 2015 (EDT)
  • Can't it be edited by us? Just protect it from new users and resume editing it until the traffic dies down. Otherwise, it remains a shitty article. R.I.P Old dirty /b/tard 16:11, 10 March 2015 (EDT)
  • There's no win-win in this scenario, either we protect it and keep users who would otherwise actually have something useful to contribute from adding worthwhile content or we keep the article open but face autists repeatedly creating throw-away emails/accounts and continuously vandalising/shit-up the article. The only solution would to initiate an IP ban but that is out of the question and even then they could simply use proxies or possibly have dynamic IP's. The INSUFFERABLE Tim 16:20, 10 March 2015 (EDT)

Where are the sources? (videos,screencaps..etc) I want to see this page stay up but this is so sloppy and compared to the other articles on here its a fucking embarrassment! sloppy work people I guess this is up because of bias not because it is a great funny article like the rest of the content on ED and all I am seeing is butthurt whining from everyone here instead of making it better.  — Preceding comment added by Silverxmenfan (talkcontribs), who is too much of a fucking retard to sign their own posts. IT'S FOUR TILDES (~~~~), NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!

Did I hurt your feelings? well instead of crying to me why don't you do your job and find sources for the article? stop acting like a wigger from 2010 and come up with better insult or help fix the article -Silverxmenfan  — Preceding comment added by Silverxmenfan (talkcontribs), who is too much of a fucking retard to sign their own posts. IT'S FOUR TILDES (~~~~), NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!

  • No one cares about your slapfight with SOK. No one cares about SOK. This article will be fixed when it get fixed. Right now too many chucklefucks, are turning it in to a circle jerk. So, until further notice, it's protected. Fuckboy R.I.P Old dirty /b/tard 18:59, 10 March 2015 (EDT)

I don't give a fuck what you think! I am asking for you to produce some lulz! the easiest thing in the world to do and you fail at that by not providing any sources to exaggerate and make fun of..you know who is more irrelevant than SOK? users on ED who can't produce any lulz and cry about people editing articles. keep crying more and locking the article because you are being incompetent! "WAHHHH PEOPLE ARE EDITING THE ARTICLE I WILL LOCK BECAUSE I CAN'T FIX THE ARTICLE AND SHOW SOURCES" I will come back when this article actually looks like an ED article and not like someone who is Bias keeping this sloppy piece of shit poorly written article up! damn dude its not hard to create lulz bro any 5 year old can do it and no LULZ ARE PRODUCED .. have fun with the page fellas  — Preceding comment added by Silverxmenfan (talkcontribs), who is too much of a fucking retard to sign their own posts. IT'S FOUR TILDES (~~~~), NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!

Unprotected

I've unprotected the article. If it doesn't improve beyond just a shitty, poorly written attack article or gets turned into another festering circle-jerk I'm just going to redirect it to Skiddies or something equally insulting to all involved. Talk | Contribs 02:42, 18 March 2015 (EDT)

Don't plz Tigercommander 03:05, 19 March 2015 (EDT)

  • Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking when I said that. Talk | Contribs 03:40, 19 March 2015 (EDT)

Tigercommander 03:44, 19 March 2015 (EDT)

Also it still looks like a text wall. I'll improve that later Tigercommander 03:50, 19 March 2015 (EDT)

So I take it that these people are gay? --Jackfisher 04:07, 23 March 2015 (EDT)

Re:edit wars

First of all, I just want to apologise to the admins of ED. I should have known better than to participate in these retarded edit wars.

As for Knife and Jedisociety, here's the deal: linking someone's Twitter account in a section that is specifically about that person and the drama they've created on Twitter is not "promotion." It's completely relevant to the article. A bunch of SoK members, including Fred Fuchs, have their Twitter accounts linked at the bottom of the page; as well as the main SoK Twitter account, and their YouTube account. This isn't about "promotion," it's about giving people the opportunity to see the content of the people the article is about. If anything, y'all should be glad that SamxByrne's Twitter is linked on this page, because if there's anything out there that's going to damage her credibility, it's the stream of weeaboo retardation that is her Twitter feed. Exposing Fred Fuchs for the hypocritical jackass that he is is the only worthwhile thing she's ever done. And in case you couldn't guess from that last statement; no, I'm not affiliated with SamxByrne in any way. I saw her bragging about tossing Fred Fuchs on his neck, and decided to investigate, and then posted the results here. - Queerescent 08:13, 23 April 2016 (EDT)


Making a few harmless potshots at Sam, which is either you or your buddy doesn't fool anyone. You claim you linked Sam's twitter so that it can potentially hurt his credibility yet you personally reversed edits that make him look even slightly bad or give a different side to the story like this one: [[1]] you are whiteknighting for him. Knife 19:21, 24 April 2016 (EDT)

I debated even bothering to deny the fact that I was associated with SamxByrne, because I knew you'd never believe me. I've noticed that you SoK retards have such a hard time believing that you're not dealing with one guy with a hundred sock accounts. You need to realise that everyone but you thinks you're retarded. I reverted that edit because it was bullshit lol. Jedisociety removes my section about how much of a egotistical cunt Fred Fuchs is, in favour of claims about Sam that weren't even backed with links, and that contradicted the proof I've already provided. There's also the fact that no one gives a shit if someone talks shit about SamxByrne, but people definitely care if you make Fred Fuchs look bad; it's more lulzy. If anyone's a whiteknight here, it's Jedisociety, who couldn't seem to handle the fact that someone was talking shit about Fred Fuchs. Also, I didn't add SamxByrne's Twitter for the purpose of damaging her credibility; as I said, it's relevant to the article. It just happens to have that secondary effect. - Queerescent 20:59, 24 April 2016 (EDT)

Page unlocks in a few minutes. Try not to pick up where you all left off, and instead argue about it here until some kind of a consensus is reached. A word of advice to members of SoK that edit the article: Assuming outright that someone who's added something you don't like to the article is the sock of whatever boogeyman you think is after you is a good way to piss of the regulars users around here, and the mods. If you have a problem with edits then talk about it here. Further, considering that Queerescent has a history of good edits here on the wiki dating back to last year I believe it's safe to assume they are not whomever you're assuming they are, nor are they white-knighting this person. Talk 03:44, 25 April 2016 (EDT)

If that is the case, i apologise to queerescent from the sheer way that article was written, i was dead set it was Sam's doing and an attempt to brag about it for the sake of relevance. But this clears it up and i suppose the point about all the weeb shit on there is correct. I had my eye on that person when they were causing all sorts of garbage on twitter and YT. And writing a bragging ED section for themselves was honestly what i would expect of them. By the way i am not SoK and don't really like Fred, think he's a douchebag trying to be moral police. But he does not compare to what Sam is. The edits i made were mostly to check how butthurt Sam would get over them. I meant to provide more links but it seriously did not take long for undoes to take effect. Jedisociety 04:29, 26 April 2016 (EDT)

It's all good man. I'm partially to blame for this bullshit anyway. I should have talked to you guys directly and explained things instead of just reverting your edits. And I'm also sorry that I assumed you were SoK. And yeah, as someone who had to trawl through Sam's Twitter to get all those links, I know exactly how much of an ass she is. But the drama she caused was pretty good at least. - Queerescent 05:29, 27 April 2016 (EDT)

First off I'd like to make it clear that like Jedisociety I'm also not in the SOK and I think it is a little paranoid to assume that someone who edits the page because they think someone is promoting themselves is an SOK member.

I'm a bit more in the middle I guess, I'm not going to go through the trouble to do hours of research to edit the page either just to have my edits reversed and told "it isn't lulzy enough" because it may make some of the people other than the SOK look bad, let's be honest everyone involved looks like an autistic faggot, including the people who contributed to the page.

I would just say to Queerescent that it's weird that you would include very limited insulting things about Sam but then police other people throwing jabs at her. Almost like you are the authority on how much someone other than the SOK can get poked fun at in this article.

It's also interesting that you would reverse edits by Jedisociety because you claim there isn't any proof to back them despite you making several claims without evidence. Monetized charity streams don't have a source at all and seem to be the most damning claim about them. Your Ardnas section reads as though the SOK planned this whole thing to take her down without a single piece of evidence. Queer even just typed out his/her theories on what happened because there was no evidence.

So in total, you seem to hold people to a high standard of proof when it is comes to people other than the SOK and if it is about them then fuck it throw it out there maybe find proof later and if not oh well.

Is that what this article is about? We all know that KingofDivas wrote the original article as a way to get revenge because he was butthurt he got kicked out of their gay little group, since then it is just people with axes to grind writing what amounts to a list of complaints about a group they weren't invited into.

If you guys are actually trying to make a legitimate article about the SOK you should try to find proof. If you guys just want to enable autistic people who are butthurt about being in the DSP community but not invited into the exclusive autistic group of the SOK to come here and air their greiveances then I guess continue on as normal. To me there isn't really anything lulzy, it's written more as an expose article yet does a bad job at that too. Knife 11:39, 27 April 2016 (EDT)

I mean, you also accused me of being Sam or one of her friends, so you're not really in a position to be calling others paranoid. I assumed you were SoK because I figured nobody else would even know or care who Sam is, let alone be so adamant about her not being allowed to promote herself.
If you want to talk shit about SamxByrne that badly then add an addendum or something, I probably would have been okay with that. But I thought Jedisociety was just trying to make Fred Fuchs look good by altering that section, so I reverted that.
You are right about me failing to provide hard evidence for a lot of things, a lot of it had to be extrapolated based on circumstantial evidence. The majority of the claims I made are inferences from the proof I did provide. If you feel the monetised charity streams line should be removed, then go ahead. The original authors of this article (apparently not Kingofdivasvlogs, as the above video on this page shows) claimed the charity streams were monetised; and they were (admittedly butthurt) SoK members, so I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on that one. But go ahead and remove it if you care that much.
About the ardnas thing, I outright say in that part of the article that there isn't enough evidence to say exactly what happened, and then I float a bunch of theories. I gave what little evidence there was. I guess I could have put links to them talking shit about her on Twitter, but I didn't think that was a particularly contentious issue.
Anyway, whatever. I'm sorry that I accused you of being a part of the SoK. And feel free to improve the article. I only really add stuff to it when something relatively big happens. - Queerescent 14:18, 27 April 2016 (EDT)

Vand

This article is -maybe?- getting shadow vandalized. Would anyone revise all edits occurred by non editors? --LIOD 07:37, 30 March 2017 (EDT)

  • From what I see, this person is removing information. I don't want to get too hasty though because they seem to have been adding stuff before. If it happens again then I'll do something about it.SCHNITZEL RADDA RADDA 10:49, 30 March 2017 (EDT)
They've done it once, but also contributed a lot. Then again, he also said "Dota 2 for over 700 hours" and that in and of itself deserves a ban. It takes at least 2,000 to even know how to last hit. Seriously, though. I don't think it matters which side you take. Nobody cares. Take this opportunity to piss somebody off. U got lots 2 lern Mike the Great (talk) 16:19, 30 March 2017 (EDT)