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== Twitter protecting pedos ==

Saw a hashtag trending on twitter called [https://twitter.com/hashtag/twittergate?src=tren twittergate] when I was digging for new QOTN. People raging on about how twitter is protecting pedos or something, calling for boycotts. Anyone know anything more about this? [[File:PoshBlastoise.gif|25px|link=User:BakaRed]][[User_talk:BakaRed|<span style="background-color:red; color:white;">'''Talk'''</span>]] 10:38, 21 November 2016 (EST)
:ED_Updates. [[File:Cobalt Cat.jpg|25px]] [[user:Cobaltcat|<font color="green">CobaltCat</font>]] 11:59, 21 November 2016 (EST)
::Account listed as suspended on my end. Wasn't aware it had come back after getting banned in January. [[File:PoshBlastoise.gif|25px|link=User:BakaRed]][[User_talk:BakaRed|<span style="background-color:red; color:white;">'''Talk'''</span>]] 14:04, 21 November 2016 (EST)
:::No nigger, I am saying it is old news. ED_Updates got suspended for attacking pedos. 
:::<youtube>FPKOSvo3AJM</youtube>
:::[[File:Cobalt Cat.jpg|25px]] [[user:Cobaltcat|<font color="green">CobaltCat</font>]] 14:24, 21 November 2016 (EST)
::::From what I gathered this is a new dump that's happened in the last 24 hours that didn't originate from ED, and has nothing to do with sarah butts. [[File:PoshBlastoise.gif|25px|link=User:BakaRed]][[User_talk:BakaRed|<span style="background-color:red; color:white;">'''Talk'''</span>]] 14:50, 21 November 2016 (EST)
:::::I've been reading back through the tag's timeline and can't make head nor tail of it. As far as I can comprehend any of it, it looks like various pedos are tweeting links to CP rather than tweeting the pr0n itself. Is that correct? [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 15:34, 21 November 2016 (EST)
::::::Something like that. It would seem that someone going by the tag 0hour, new account [https://twitter.com/Brian_Was_Here_ here], dumped the info of 30k accounts sharing CP on twitter, and then was promptly banned for it. I have seen people [https://twitter.com/jrb_free/status/800617680914948096 talking about it] with a picture of what I think are links to the dump, references to a [https://twitter.com/TheShiningOneX/status/800435072780222464 #pizzagate] subreddit, and at least one other person claiming [https://twitter.com/Eclipse_OW/status/800792633811603457 they are behind the dump] with some affiliation to the 0hour person. [[File:PoshBlastoise.gif|25px|link=User:BakaRed]][[User_talk:BakaRed|<span style="background-color:red; color:white;">'''Talk'''</span>]] 15:52, 21 November 2016 (EST)
::::::: Not sure that tweeting a link is the same as tweeting the thing itself. (Compare: You send someone a postcard that reads: "Leviticus 24:16" and they look it up in the Bible - have you therefore sent them the words of the Bible verse? No of course not). Twittergate is still frothing away as of 24 hours later and I still don't understand it. But since it is from the same [[Retarded|creative]] [[Retards|imaginations]] that spawned #PizzaGate perhaps that is to be expected. [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 16:57, 22 November 2016 (EST)

== archive dot icification ==

this user is presenting the proposal that all external links within encyclopedia dramatica be replaced with archive.is archived links with the title of the contents in links be presented as softlinks as in the format of wikipedia reflist links.
this user performed the action in the page of archive.is as a test example of what it would appear as.{{unsigned|FAMAS}}

:Let's talk about something important tho. Why are you typing like a serial killer? {{User:Mike the Great/Sig}} {{User:Mike/Gay time}}17:09, 23 November 2016 (EDT){{User:Mike/Not gay time}}

:: All serial killers with whom I have corresponded are sticklers for punctuation. I suggest that FAMAS is in fact a terrorist. [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 15:35, 23 November 2016 (EST)



:I don't trust those archive sites any more than I trust any other site.  When you've been online as long as I have you know full well that even the most robust of "archive" sites eventually get bought out and bitched over by corporate asshats (often Google).  Remember DejaNews?  No, of course you don't, cause Google shoved it up their ass one random day and ruined the holy bejesus out of it.

:It's better to just take screencaps/shots of the content on the external link and then put them directly into the fuckin article.  Try not to link to anything offsite unless it's just marginally important.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 15:39, 23 November 2016 (EST)

::Uh-huh. So two external archive sites (one of which has been up continuously since 199fucking6) are less reliable than potentially-doctored screencaps archived on this site, which craps out on a weekly basis and which has been nuked from orbit once already with the result that there are still redlinked images strewn hither and yon throughout? I put it to you that your extravagant claim is not wholly sustainable. Besides which, it's not an either/or choice in any case. Do both, or neither, or whatever. [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 15:59, 23 November 2016 (EST)

:::Clearly you are forgetting about his patented harvester, that has archived 100000tb of internet, all saved into Flash, the best format for web sites anno {{CURRENTYEAR}}. [[File:Cobalt Cat.jpg|25px]] [[user:Cobaltcat|<font color="green">CobaltCat</font>]] 16:12, 23 November 2016 (EST)

::::That awkward moment when you realize there are people on ED who don't know how to manipulate archive.org and the like.  Seriously, even pedestrian level flunkies have been aware of just how easy it is... since over a HALF DECADE ago...
::::http://www.gevers.eu/en/download/manipulate-archived-internet-pages-yes-we-can
::::Holy shit d00ds... first rule of the Internet... EVERYTHING is fake, take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt.  That's like... the entire fucking basis upon which ED was formed, as far back as when Butter Queen got slapped around on Usenet.  Hell it dates all the way back to the [[Meow Wars]]...
::::"Apparently, there will always be those, like the Harvard kids, who will not tolerate the right that all Usenetters have to act silly, or to have a sense of humor, or to have the view that '''''nothing should be taken too seriously'''''."
::::Oh, forgot to mention Hipcrime too (the group, not the ED user), manipulating and altering archive sites was their bread and fucking butter back in the 90s.
::::--<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 16:36, 23 November 2016 (EST)

::::: [[Retard|All that link describes is the old bait-n-switch caused by changing the content of objects after archiving. "Archive doesn't archive the unarchivable" shock exclusive. There isn't (as far as I know, which admittedly might not be very far) any way of actually getting at the html itself once it's been archived.]] [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 16:50, 23 November 2016 (EST)

:::::: Wait... did you think I was going to link to some specific instructions or kiddy level prog to magically do it for you?  Cause... yeah that's not gonna happen... ever.  They do a lot of "Hackathons" though, you could go poke into that if you're interested... not sure if they still do them or not, but they used to be real big on that shet to try and "keep up" with the hacking community.  I think they have prizes too, if you wanna fork over your goods/methodology... or did... been a long time since I poked around in that area.

:::::: Hackers don't generally "share" their stuff, the most I've given away (recently) has been like the uber simple URL "hacking" I added to the Image Selection page... and even that probably wasn't the brightest idea.  Every time I update FB's bushwa for example they turn right around within a month and change everything around.  Most of the rest on there still work... for now anyway.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 17:01, 23 November 2016 (EST)

::::::: [[Retard|''"did you think I was going to link to some specific instructions or kiddy level prog to magically do it for you?"'' Not for one moment (interpret that how you will). What would be helpful though would be a documented instance of this happening in practice.]] [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 17:06, 23 November 2016 (EST)

:::::::: Why don't I just link to their ToS...
:::::::: https://archive.org/about/terms.php
:::::::: "It is possible that the computers at the Archive could become compromised by others '''and''' that the information on the Archive’s computers could be collected and disseminated without the knowledge or consent of the Archive. While the Archive endeavors to block "crackers" from breaking into its machines, the Archive is not responsible or liable for any such unauthorized uses of the Archive or its data."
:::::::: --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 17:14, 23 November 2016 (EST)

::::::::: I see. So "collected and disseminated" means "altered or deleted" does it? Do you still have the receipt for that dictionary of yours? If so, you might want to return it and spend the money on something that will be of more use to you. Such as a barrel of cock-flavored lollipops. [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 18:07, 23 November 2016 (EST)
:::::::::: Conjunction Junction, what's your function?  :D
:::::::::: Here, this might help... http://www.dictionary.com/browse/and
:::::::::: --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 18:12, 23 November 2016 (EST)

::::::::::: [[Retard|Here's a dictionary entry of you. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pigeon%20chess Did I say 'of you'? Wrong conjunction. I meant 'for you', obviously.]] [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 18:21, 23 November 2016 (EST)

:::::::::::: Tha'fawk are you even talking about?  I meant the "and" used in their ToS. --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 18:25, 23 November 2016 (EST)

::::::::::::: [[Retard|A little nonsense can be amusing. An endless stream of nonsense is just annoying. I'll hear no more of your twaddle. Good day. ]][[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 18:38, 23 November 2016 (EST)

:::::::::::::: [[Tryhard|Since you've highlighted '''"and"''' in that TOS quote, I'll reply. You seem to think that the '''"and"''' means that the two elements in that sentence (namely, the 'compromised' and 'disseminated') are separate and unrelated actions. In fact, as the closing clause of that quote ("any such unauthorised '''uses''' [...]") makes clear, they are sequential. What you are doing is taking a sentence analogous to ''"He walked through the door and closed it to keep out the noise"'' and insisting that it means that ''"he walked through the door"'' and ''"closed it"'' were actions performed entirely separately from and unrelatedly to each other, e.g. potentially during different weeks. This is, quite frankly, a stupid thing to think. Now be off with you.]] [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 22:36, 23 November 2016 (EST)

::::::::::::::: You know [[Onideus Mad Hatter|I]] was thinking about making [[Onideus Mad Hatter|an article]] for you... but then [[Onideus Mad Hatter|I]] figured [[Onideus Mad Hatter|I]] could just make [[Onideus Mad Hatter|an article]] for "avulsion" and that would essentially be the exact same thing as you.
::::::::::::::: PS - [[Onideus Mad Hatter|I]] fixed your links.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 23:42, 23 November 2016 (EST)

:@FAMAS Feel free to archive.is links, but don't delete the original links unless the site being linked to (such as gawker) is a corrupt shitty site (SJW / neocon / kike) that way small business scale sites can still make some $ per click. -[[File:Swasikasig.jpg|25px|link=User:AlGore]] ([[User talk:AlGore|Al Gore]]) 22:38, 23 November 2016 (EST)
:in reply to user {{u|AlGore}}, this user asserts the fact that this user follows the policy of softlinking the contents as to aid searching in search engines as hardlinking most often leaves the content title ambiguous as stated in the WP page for linking and the idea for archive.is ing the links instead of direct linking comes from the various incidents of link-rotting which wp countered by utilizing archive.org links as wp had a then-valid concern about the reliability of archive.is. this user enquires to user {{u|Sidecar}} regarding details of the ED nukage incident that the user was referring to, as this user is unaware regarding any incident of ED being successfully raided.

::Tryhard (Sidecar) is just a n00b who doesn't know what he's babbling on about.  The only time ED ever really went down was right after Butter Queen originally attempted to sell out the site as "Oh Internet".  Unfortunately for her there were a bunch of us who were systematically archiving the entire site day in and day out, so the very minute she brought the original down, it went right back up within like, three days, with several different versions that eventually all merged into this present one which isn't going anywhere any time soon and, even if it magically did, we'd all just put the shit right the fuck back up again.

::That's why it's better to upload screencaps to ED, because that way they'll be auto-archived by people like me.  People like me don't archive, archive sites, so if that's all you're using, it's like putting all your eggs into one basket.  The only real reason to use those archive sites is for like time stamping, like if you do site defacements and want bragging rights or you want postured "evidence" against someone... but that doesn't fucking matter because they'll still claim it's fake/doctored even if it's on one of those archive sites.   --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 03:07, 24 November 2016 (EST)

:::''The only time ED ever really went down was right after Butter Queen originally attempted to sell out the site as "Oh Internet". Unfortunately for her there were a bunch of us who were systematically archiving the entire site day in and day out'' - [[Taking Down ED|that is what I meant by "nuked from orbit once already".]] And [[Operation Restoration]] says something quite different than what you are claiming about archiving. The facts speak for themselves. And the facts are that you are a fat retard who wears a nappy. [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 06:52, 24 November 2016 (EST)

:::: And you make it sound like ED is on failing legs, Numbnuts.  Like the site could suddenly go tits up at any time.  If you don't like the site, get the fuck out already.  It's not going anywhere you silly little goon.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 07:01, 24 November 2016 (EST)

::::'' Like the site could suddenly go tits up at any time.'' - This was precisely your own reasoning for shunning two external archive sites, once of which is 20 years old. Like, duh. You can have the last word, I'm done. [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 07:06, 24 November 2016 (EST)

::::: No, that's exactly the OPPOSITE of what I said.  I said to upload material HERE on ED because this site is NOT going anywhere.  Where as archive.org could easily get swallowed up by a major corporation at any given time.  That won't happen with ED because ED is too volatile for such corporate entities to directly involve with, and, the one time they tried, with Butter Queen, it immediately blew up in their face.  ED is largely more stable than most sites simply because it has no direct corporate appeal, no corporation in their right mind would ever even think to try and buy out the site.

::::: Oh, also, that "restoration" by the by was just the "bare bones" site, provided via torrent files and was compiled off Web Reaper scans I believe.  If you look at my contribution history for example you'll find hundreds upon hundreds of image reuploads, because the original "restoration" only had thumbnails and low res preview images.  Originally it was me and about three or four others who started mass uploading from our own archives to FULLY restore the site (as well as fit the bill for the initial hosting).  I think I shelled out several hundred dollars for the initial hosting costs and others donated even more I think.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 07:13, 24 November 2016 (EST)

:::::: For reference...
[[Image:ED_Restoration_Costs.png|center]] {{clear}}
:::::: And even what I donated wasn't much, I think some people churned out over $500 at a time!  The site was not restored because of some dipshit threads on fuckin 4Chan, it was restored large by the people who DONATED MONEY and DONATED TIME into repairing and rebuilding the site.  And most of them were ED regulars from the original site who felt burned/betrayed by Butter Queen.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 07:34, 24 November 2016 (EST)

You people are confusing archive.org and archive.is.  Archive.org is a professional site that lives just fine on donations and is respectful.  Archive.is is run by a Russian pedophile, Denis Petrov.  If you know many people who hang out on the chans, especially the owners (eg. [[8chan]]), everyone completely hates him.  The reason is these are anonymous boards that anyone can upload an image to.  People sometimes upload CP and but it's quickly deleted and the person reported so it's rare.  But now with archive.is, people upload CP and constantly archive the thread.  So now it encourages lots of pedos to upload CP to forums because archive.is will archive it.  You should talk to the owners of 8chan.  They told the guy to stop archiving and Denis's response was to manually set his bot to scrape the entire site nonstop.  What's interesting is in the logs of their site, they found the same IPs as were editing the Wikipedia article on archive.is.  8chan has had a lot of threads on Denis.  He has some connections to intelligence agencies and at one point he blocked the entire country of Finland because customs held him up at the airport.  [[User:FuckAlms|FuckAlms]] 04:28, 24 November 2016 (EST)

:Oh, well, definitely don't use that then.  The last thing ED needs is a bunch of links to some pervy, pedo, Russian run, shit job.  In fact I'd go so far as to say you should REMOVE (and replace) any such links with either screen caps or links to Archive.org, pretty sure no one on ED wants the site associated with pedo roach-holes.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 04:46, 24 November 2016 (EST)

::I thought the last thing ED needed was a pedo diaperfag back, but here we are. [[File:Cobalt Cat.jpg|25px]] [[user:Cobaltcat|<font color="green">CobaltCat</font>]] 07:56, 24 November 2016 (EST)

:::Well no worries there then, cause after you spent three years shitting all over a perfect article NO ONE thinks I'm that anymore (except you), now they just think I'm some horrible/mean hate troll...
::: [[Image:Broken_Lulz.png]]{{clear}}
::: You can thank OddGuy I guess, he's the one who spent the most time "fixing" said perfect article.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 16:57, 24 November 2016 (EST)
::::Oh wow. You have a Facebook comment that is calling you a troll. The internet better be scared. [[File:Cobalt Cat.jpg|25px]] [[user:Cobaltcat|<font color="green">CobaltCat</font>]] 18:44, 24 November 2016 (EST)

::::: Actually there are TWO!  :D
::::: That's all I've been able to rack up in the past couple years (that reference adult babies).  At first I thought the problem was due to FB with the whole "Oni Deus", like maybe attempted Google searches weren't working right/redirecting to the article, so then I started going out of my way to constantly "correct" people in FB flame threads, but then when I did that this happened...
::::: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=180563862394332&set=a.102389986878387.1073741827.100013221571357
::::: For some reason now when I go out of my way to really push people to "discovering" my ED article it just leads them to suddenly being NICE and often backpedaling.  I hate to break this to you NiggerKitty, but your wanton desire for the masses to view me the way you do... is pretty well perma-fucked.  Now I got fuckin morons naming their gawd damn pets after me!
::::: --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 19:01, 24 November 2016 (EST)
::::::Well, great...super. Anyway, if we could get back to archives, I've linked a lot of stuff to archive.org and archive.is. If it's past a certain age I don't see the harm if someone wants to put forth the work in modifying the pages. - [[User:Zew0|Zew0]] 19:22, 24 November 2016 (EST)

:::::::Didn't we like... make a guide or something already for this?  I think it was like a year or two ago and I think Zaiger posted some guidelines and such on archiving links and there was a whole big drive/effort to try and go through all the major articles and to check their offsite links and replace them if they were dead, either with screencaps or with archive.org links and the like.  I'll try and find it later if I can.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 19:47, 24 November 2016 (EST)

::::::::Not that I know of, but if you find it then yeah, please post a link. - [[User:Zew0|Zew0]] 19:59, 24 November 2016 (EST)


Some relevant old stuff, regarding archive.is...
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Encyclopedia_Dramatica:Thizzlehat_Junction_Center/Archive/48

Basically don't use it, because it has "reporting" features that let people get stuff removed, instead use archive.org

And here's a link to the "Backup Task Force" hooha...
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Encyclopedia_Dramatica:Thizzlehat_Junction_Center/Archive/38#Link_restoral.2Fbackup_task_force

...I think that's everything... maybe, my long term eidetic memory is only around 70% accurate, so there might have been some other stuff too. --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 21:05, 24 November 2016 (EST)
:::::::::I reviewed it. I think linking to archives is still in out best interests. - [[User:Zew0|Zew0]] 00:40, 25 November 2016 (EST)

You can use whatever archiving site you want to, just make it look neat. I use archive.is, I have no idea who the owner is and I don't care as long as his website works. --[[User:Mantequilla|Mantequilla]] [[User_talk:Mantequilla|(talk)]] [[File:Mantequilla.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Mantequilla]] 20:49, 25 November 2016 (EST)

:Is there any way we can code in the <nowiki>{{Archive_X}}</nowiki> template to allow archive.org links in it? -[[File:Swasikasig.jpg|25px|link=User:AlGore]] ([[User talk:AlGore|Al Gore]]) 20:56, 25 November 2016 (EST)
::I'm sure someone can make one. --[[User:Mantequilla|Mantequilla]] [[User_talk:Mantequilla|(talk)]] [[File:Mantequilla.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Mantequilla]]
::What do you mean, Manbearpig? The <nowiki>{{archive}}</nowiki> already allows wayback machine links. {{archive|H8Mho|this is an archive link}} and {{archive|NajXj|this is a link to a wayback link}}. Or you could use {{wayback|https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Special:RecentChanges|20161012044055|title=The proper wayback template}}. [[File:Cobalt Cat.jpg|25px]] [[user:Cobaltcat|<font color="green">CobaltCat</font>]] 03:16, 26 November 2016 (EST)

Oh shit nice brah -[[File:Swasikasig.jpg|25px|link=User:AlGore]] ([[User talk:AlGore|Al Gore]]) 04:34, 26 November 2016 (EST)

:Archive everything, this isn't an issue. Forget click denial, it's about link rot as much as anything. Naturally you'll not want to link directly to Gawker tier bullshit, in which case you can leave the source URL as a comment for later, secondary archival in case the primary method fails. '''&mdash;&nbsp;<span style="background:#000; font-size:1.25em; padding:2px;">&nbsp;[[User:VX|<span style="color:#DD0000;">V</span>]][[User talk:VX|<span style="color:#DD0000;">X</span>]]&nbsp;'''</span> 11:31, 26 November 2016 (EST)
::Yeah it is about link rot and blogs and shit go down and get changed or deleted all the time so we should be putting a link to the original URL '''AND''' an archive link. Unless the link is dead already or it is Kotaku or some other clickbait shit at which point you just need to archive and leave the source link out. --[[User:Mantequilla|Mantequilla]] [[User_talk:Mantequilla|(talk)]] [[File:Mantequilla.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Mantequilla]]
::in reply to user {{u|SideCar}}, this user recalled the incident after the reminder and asserts the fact that this user went to ohinternet irc with this nick and posted "fuck you and your ohinternet shit for destroying the parody wiki encyclopedia dramatica, all of you should go through all the things displayed in offended page happening to you." and getting banned 5 seconds after posting it. in the opinion of this user, it was a good memory.
in reply to all, this user would vote for replacing all external links on-site with their archive.is fied links as shown in the wiki page of archive.is by this user.{{unsigned|FAMAS}}

FAMAS are you one of those purple floating alien fuckers from Mass effect or some shit? -[[File:Swasikasig.jpg|25px|link=User:AlGore]] ([[User talk:AlGore|Al Gore]]) 12:39, 28 November 2016 (EST)

==Expendable Archive.is Links==
I'm looking for some expendable links!  Preferably stuff with "questionable content" that I can um... "test" with.  It has to be stuff that's expendable though because it might get nuked (depending on whether I can figure out the mechanics of their reporting tool).

Like what I did with FaceBook awhile back...
https://www.facebook.com/walla.walla.733/posts/551275895052350

I want to try and see just how pussified they've gotten, especially since their reporting tool now includes shit like "bullying".  Depending on how easy it is to break, all the archive.is links on the site might be less than stable/permanent.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 03:52, 26 November 2016 (EST)

==Nigger delusions==

Counting up the articles about the parallel universe inhabited by niggers. Seems to be a distinct phenomenon that groids live in a fantasy-land. Enough here for a templated series? [[White supremacy]] (social justice bullshit) [[Black Lives Matter]] (ditto) [[We wuz kangs]] (mythological bullshit) [[Afrocentrism]] (revisionist bullshit) [[Trayvon Martin]] (Injustice bullshit) [[Michael Brown]] (ditto) [[DINDUNUFFIN]] (ditto again) [[These cuffs]] (superpower bullshit) etc etc. [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 19:05, 26 November 2016 (EST)

:I think a category/article for "Victim Culture" in general would be more apt, since it's not just a nig thing, but something you find with Jews, women, MRAs, SJWs, etc, etc.  Nigs hardly have a monopoly on "Victim Culture", although they're probably the biggest benefactor of it.

:Mostly because of MLK: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Martin_Luther_King#Remembrance_and_Legacy
:"In this day in age, Junior is largely celebrated as a pseudo-holiday with roughly 1/3rd of the US populous getting to slack off from their jobs to "celebrate" a hypocritically racist asshole and old school social engineering hacker who only managed to accomplish anything in life because he excelled at making a "victim" of himself and others, including children, which he routinely used as human shields. A proverbial racial terrorist, he openly invited assassination in order to ensure martyrdom and to solidify his historical presence. He was essentially nothing more than a slightly more evolved version of a suicide bomber who, in the long run, did far more to damage the "black cause" by creating the very "victim culture" that wound up perpetuated and celebrated for countless decades after. That "victim culture" has become the de facto standard mentality for blacks in the United States, who continually use it as an excuse to be lazy, uneducated, ignorant and to explain their inability to function like little more than lesser man-animal versions of their white counterparts."

:But now it's like... everybody is jumping onto the victim complex bandwagon.  Or "Oppression Olympics" if you like.
:--<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 20:11, 26 November 2016 (EST)

==So Is ED Turning "Alt Right" Or What?==
There's a few different people, mostly that "AlGore" guy who is just massively spamming "Alt Right" propaganda bullshit into almost every article under the sun.  I cleaned out the [[Hitler]] page the other day (see its talk page for the removed content to see how bad it was), but he's also plastering it into every other fucking article as well, like this one he just put into the "Old Media" article...

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Most of it he's getting from a site called "Justice4Germans" and then just mass uploading it all into ED, which in turn is startin to make ED look like a Neo-Nazi playground.  So anyway, I don't feel like cleaning up after him and when I tried to talk to him he got overly hostile towards me, so I'll just leave this here for the admins attention.  *shrugs*  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 04:13, 28 November 2016 (EST)

:That site you keep spamming about, "justice4germans.com / justiceforgermans.com isn't even online. I'm just fetching shit off the chans and other troll sites. -[[File:Swasikasig.jpg|25px|link=User:AlGore]] ([[User talk:AlGore|Al Gore]]) 04:34, 28 November 2016 (EST)

::Yeah, I know it's offline, hence the reason you Kraut Niggers have been flooding all over into 4Chan, ED and other sites.  To the point where you pulled [[Meepsheep's Law]] on the fuckin [[Pepe]] meme and created a bastardized second generation knock-off of the Brony movement, but this time with poorly drawn swastikas instead of poorly drawn ponies.  That's you, you're the fuckin brony plastering random rainbow jizz art all over every fuckin article you come across in a sordid attempt to try and "normalize" your deranged interests.  Only you're doing it to the point where it just looks like you're spam flooding every other article under the sun with kike flustered crap.  At first I thought you were just being drunk/lazy about it, but after I went through and cleaned up the Hitler article... no you purposefully tried to hide that shit into the middle of the fuckin gallery and you were not being even the least bit subtle about it.  I mean there's no fuckin way you could have possibly confused that propaganda shit for lulzy material.  You had a clear agenda in mind, which certainly the fuck wasn't anywhere in line with the purpose of ED and you blatantly tried to hide the fact that you were doing it.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 05:06, 28 November 2016 (EST)
:::We're whatever pop-culture demonizes. - [[User:Zew0|Zew0]]
::::AlG is doing righteous work, and this is obviously just an attempt to stir up shit by someone whose usual attention-seeking has become a bit more noticeable just recently, and indeed it has been noticed. Meanwhile, I commend [https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/28/alt-right-online-poison-racist-bigot-sam-harris-milo-yiannopoulos-islamophobia? this spectacular exhibition of brainwashed liberal faggotry] to the  house. Satire will not want for material while such people exist. [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 10:59, 28 November 2016 (EST)

*No ED is not turning alt-right, that is just the trend in online humor right now in the communities that use ED. The alt-right is basically a meme. --[[User:Mantequilla|Mantequilla]] [[User_talk:Mantequilla|(talk)]] [[File:Mantequilla.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Mantequilla]] 11:18, 28 November 2016 (EST)

::The Alt-Right is a yet untapped lolcow. [[File:Cobalt Cat.jpg|25px]] [[user:Cobaltcat|<font color="green">CobaltCat</font>]] 12:05, 28 November 2016 (EST)

:No, it WAS a meme, past tense.  Just like with Bronies, that too started as a meme, until [[Meepsheep's Law]] took effect.  Read somee of that propaganda shit he uploaded to the Hitler page (now on the talk page)... that's not humor, that's absolute sincerity taken directly from actual Neo-Nazi sites.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 17:18, 28 November 2016 (EST)

::Shall we all have a quick collection and buy Oneedy a little sleighbell, a cuttlebone, and a mirror to replace his PC? Might get some fucking peace that way.[[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 17:40, 28 November 2016 (EST)

:::Hey Sidecar... I'm being nice right now... I'm being nice by NOT pointing out that you've been doing the same thing (albeit to a much lesser extent and largely because you've been trying to imitate AlGore like a little puppy).  If you want I can stop being nice and provide some rather... "interesting" examples of you doing the same thing.  Try and remember I have an eidetic memory, there is nothing you do that I don't notice.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 17:57, 28 November 2016 (EST)

:I think you're all acting like menstruating spastics. All of you need to calm the fuck down. Also stop with all this threat bullshit, all of this could have been avoided if both Al and Onideus fucking talked to each other calmly and rationally first before going into a fucking edit war. Seriously. [[File:LKCustomSig.jpg|25px|link=User:LulzKiller]] ([[User talk:LulzKiller|talk]]) 20:10, 28 November 2016 (EST)

::There wasn't really an edit war at all.  I simply cleaned up one of the articles he was mass spamming into by moving non-ED related material to the talk page.  But then while I was doing that, that's when I noticed he was being rather... "selective" about where he was putting the images he uploadedm.  If you want I can create an infographic to show you what I saw when I was editing it.  Basically it looked like he was just mass uploading random material and not paying attention to what it was, but then his editing of the article was in stark contrast to that.  He was putting actual lulzy images on the BOTTOM of the gallery and then he was sneaking in the propaganda style images into the MIDDLE of the article, so if anyone clicked on the page to see his edits, it would seem as if he was just adding lulzy content, when in fact he was specifically trying to manipulate the page/article to suit his personal convictions (either that or using ED as his personal image server).

::As a relatable example it would be like me, a presumed adult baby, uploading pictures of beautiful women (models) in diapers into the adult baby article and trying to pass the fetish off as some kind of norm.  I'm sure if I started doing that many of you would pitch a fucking fit over it, soooo... why are we allowing the bastardized "alt right" to do the same thing?  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 20:26, 28 November 2016 (EST)

Stop being autistic, there wasn't any edit war. I grab shit off 4chan or 8chan, tag it, upload that shit and put the pics somewhere on its respective page somewhere. Sometimes I put shit near the top or at the bottom. If you see any duplicate images blame the image detection software. I've deleted a lot of shit that I've uploaded at your suggestion such as ww2 propaganda posters. Keep in mind I'm usually high or drunk most the time so a lot of mistakes slip in. -[[File:Swasikasig.jpg|25px|link=User:AlGore]] ([[User talk:AlGore|Al Gore]]) 21:56, 28 November 2016 (EST)

: ''Try and remember I have an eidetic memory, there is nothing you do that I don't notice.'' You mean that any retard pretending to have superpowers can check my contributions and see what I've been editing on this completely open wiki where nothing is hidden and everything is recorded for ever? Gosh. [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 22:10, 28 November 2016 (EST)

::An eidetic memory is not a super power.  You must be pretty high on yourself if you think anyone would actually take the bother/effort to manually go through your entire edit history though.  I don't have to do that myself, it gets permanently stuck in my head regardless.  It's handy for use in pattern recognition, compositional abstraction, multi-point sagacity, non-linear thinking and the like but it's hardly anything super special.  It's not like it's makin me rich or anything.  LOL  Most people "catch up" eventually too.  Like with Krade for example, I called him out like a month before anyone else even noticed at all.  But even if I hadn't, he would have been found out regardless, it just would have taken more time.  At best my perception is anywhere from a couple months to a few years ahead of most people, but even then it's not infallible. --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 22:32, 28 November 2016 (EST)
:::Remember when you couldn't get it through your retarded thick skull that an American show had not been shown on Danish television? It has no bearing on anything, I just want to remind you how little you understand of the world. [[File:Cobalt Cat.jpg|25px]] [[user:Cobaltcat|<font color="green">CobaltCat</font>]] 01:07, 29 November 2016 (EST)

::::NiggerKitty, remember when you actually contributed content to the wiki... yeah, me either.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 01:24, 29 November 2016 (EST)
:::::This nonissue is such a fucking mess of whining that I'm reluctant to address it at all, but here are the facts. Yes, ED is politicized. It's a wiki, the content of wikis are the result of contributors, and contributors, being (mostly) human, are themselves politicized. Perhaps a bit of history will put this into perspective. Historically, users of ED were quite liberal under the reign of Dubya. Why? ED is very much an underdog, an outsider, a deliberately warped mirror held up to society at large. Now, in the age of feminism, social justice, and other very real, very leftist ideas that are presently shaping our zeitgeist, the EDiot's role has changed. It is now the twisted mirror held up to those tenets of society, fueled in part by the so called "alt right," which itself is a bullshit phrase, entirely meaningless, that encompasses a great many people of a great many and usually incompatible beliefs.

:::::Is AlGore politically motivated in his contributions? Probably. We all are, to some extent. Is he turning ED into a propaganda machine of his own design? Fuck no. Ultimately we at ED are functionaries archiving the largely Internet slice of our zeigeist, and pulling images from various /pol/ boards is well within our stated purview. As for ED itself, it has not, is not, and will never be a political platform.

:::::If this nonissue becomes an issue because a lone, chronic, attention whoring bellyacher is joined by a chorus of complainants, this contemptuous lecture will become an actual discussion. Until then, good day. '''&mdash;&nbsp;<span style="background:#000; font-size:1.25em; padding:2px;">&nbsp;[[User:VX|<span style="color:#DD0000;">V</span>]][[User talk:VX|<span style="color:#DD0000;">X</span>]]&nbsp;'''</span> 01:50, 29 November 2016 (EST)

::::::Completely incorrect.  ED has always been no single sided attack territory, an "equal opportunity offender" if you will..  There is an article about blacks, there's an article about whites.  There's an article about women, there's an article about men.  There's an article about feminists, there's an article about MRAs.  There's an article about religion, there's an article about atheism.  And so on and so forth.  ED does not take sides, ED has NEVER taken sides, there are some USERS on ED who have certainly TRIED to take sides... which, coincidentally never tends to end well for them.

::::::You're also completely missing the point, which I'm presuming is because you haven't even looked at any of the images I'm talking about.  I mean I don't generally give a shit if someone "takes sides" so long as they're at least marginally funny/lulzy about it... hell a week or so back I proposed an article about RACE MIXING and consequently got accused of ''being'' a part of the alt-right!  The point isn't the position so much as whether it's lulzy/drama inducing... 3rd rate, sloppy asssed, Nazi propaganda pictures are about as NOT lulzy/drama inducing as you can possibly get... now maybe if you posted them on the feminism article... that might be kind of funny, but in the Hitler article... no, no that's just fucking horseshit and you know it.   --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 02:13, 29 November 2016 (EST)


Helpful reference (for those that apparently forgot about it)...
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Encyclopedia_Dramatica:ED_Is_Not#ED_is_not_Hitler.27s_Uncyclopedia

"If you are under the impression that the hallmark of a good article is to make up a bunch of random bullshit about niggers and kikes, you're on the wrong wiki"

Doesn't get any more straightforward than that.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 02:22, 29 November 2016 (EST)

Look, if you find any unfitting images I give you full permission and support to move them to the talk page or to delete them if they're entirely unnecessary. I just mass-collect and upload shit I fetch off booru, /pol/, /k/, /b/, etc. The point of ED is to satirize / make fun of whatever subject is being written about. I uploaded a lot of pics insulting salt-right fags and pol douchebags on their page. However, I also allowed lots of irrelevant or unfunny / factual / propaganda bullshit to slip in too. I removed them from a few pages, I'm sorry for any mistakes. I'll be clearing out any mistakes from the galleries I helped to build up. -[[File:Swasikasig.jpg|25px|link=User:AlGore]] ([[User talk:AlGore|Al Gore]]) 03:30, 29 November 2016 (EST)

:Sounds good, if you can, try and at least take some measure of effort to review what you upload before uploading it, that way no one has to bother cleaning up after you in the first place.  I archive entire sites, FB pages, forums and the like myself, but I always sanitize before uploading so I don't trash the wiki with garbage.  Many of those sites and such are rife with angry little malcontents who often center on bullshit and propaganda than they do actual lulz.  There's a reason ED isn't on [https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/9/97/9gagchainoflife.jpg this image], let's ALL try and keep it that way.  This is ED, we're supposed to be BETTER than everyone else.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 04:23, 29 November 2016 (EST)

:: AlGore can upload whatever he wants and put it wherever he wants. [[File:Schnookums Icon3.png|32px|link=User:Schnookums]] <sup class="plainlinks">[{{SERVER}}/index.php?title=User_talk:Schnookums&action=edit&section=new reply]</sup>  08:52, 29 November 2016 (EST)

::: So is that a special rule you're making up just for him, or does that go for anyone?  Because if that's the new rule, that we can upload anything and everything... I'd be more than happy to start using ED as a dump site for my Data Archive.  I've got a few hundred gigs I can upload right now if that's okay.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 16:12, 29 November 2016 (EST)

::: I'm posting [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gaming_the_system#The_meaning_of_.22gaming_the_system.22 this link to a page about user behavior on a certain other Wiki] because [[Some argue|you might very well think]] that the contents of that page could be relevant here. I know what I think, so I leave the matter open for observation by others. [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 09:51, 29 November 2016 (EST)

:::: So you're making the argument that the "ED is not" page should be altered or deleted?  Or are you trying to accuse me of using some super sekrat trolling tactics to undermine ED?  Just a little FYI for ya, that um... that link there "Gaming The System"... that was actually created by crazy SJWs to try and defend their not so subtle take-over of Wikipedia.  In fact I believe the actual origin is from the Feminism wiki... uh... whatever it's called.  The same one that argues that feelings are more important than facts.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 16:12, 29 November 2016 (EST)

::::: ''"Or are you trying to accuse me of using some super sekrat trolling tactics to undermine ED?"'' - This is the very first time that particular idea has been suggested and I put it to the house that it ought to be noted who it was that suggested it. [[User:Sidecar|Sidecar]] 22:06, 29 November 2016 (EST)

:::::: I think you grossly overestimate my interest in rocks.  --<b>[[User:Onideus|Onideus]]</b> [[File:Sig_Rainbow_Clouds.png|link=Shitting_Rainbows]] 22:09, 29 November 2016 (EST)