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	The [[BAWWWWW\|fine fags]] of [[deviantArt]] spend all their time tracing eachother's shitty artwork, playing with [[lense flare]], and claiming they are "real artists". Point out their poor anatomy, obvious tracing, or even just that they may be wrong and watch the fun begin!		The [[BAWWWWW\|fine fags]] of [[deviantArt]] spend all their time tracing eachother's shitty artwork, playing with [[lense flare]], and claiming they are "real artists". Point out their poor anatomy, obvious tracing, or even just that they may be wrong and watch the fun begin!

	When they aren't busy attempting to fake their way into being an artist these people like doing "drawing exercises" that take the form of crude [[memes]]. These are spread not to help others improve, but in the hopes that others will pick up the memes and link back to them in order to bring them popularity. Most Tartlets don't really care about improvement so much as being praised, which doesn't bode well for any "art site".		When they aren't busy attempting to fake their way into being an artist these people like doing "drawing exercises" that take the form of crude [[memes]]. These are spread not to help others improve, but in the hopes that others will pick up the memes and link back to them in order to bring them popularity. Most Tartlets don't really care about improvement so much as being praised, which doesn't bode well for any "art site".

	'''Abridged Examples of failed logic'''		'''Abridged Examples of failed logic'''
	*I'm a good artist [[Snapesnogger\|because I have fans]]		*I'm a good artist [[Snapesnogger\|because I have fans]]
	*It's not a trace if you [[traced\|flip, recolor, and add cat ears]]!		*It's not a trace if you [[traced\|flip, recolor, and add cat ears]]!
	*You aren't me so you [[prep\|have no idea how hard my life is]]! Thus I'm right and you're not.		*You aren't me so you [[prep\|have no idea how hard my life is]]! Thus I'm right because I deserve to be and you're not.
			*It's not tracing if I [[overpaint\|used a grid to capture every detail]], it's just really, really accurate!

	===Christians===		===Christians===
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	'''Abridged Examples of failed logic'''		'''Abridged Examples of failed logic'''
	* The universe was created when [[divide by zero\|nothing exploded into everything]]		* The universe was created when [[divide by zero\|nothing exploded into everything]]
	* I'm right because I went to [[college]]		* I'm right because I went to [[college]] and believe everything Carl Sagan and Richard Dawkins throws at me
	* You believe in [[God\|invisible men]], you [[Albert Einstein\|can't have any idea]] how[[Bill Nye\| to think logically]]		* You believe in [[God\|invisible men]], you [[Albert Einstein\|can't have any idea]] how[[Bill Nye\| to think logically]]

			===Feminists and Social Justice Warriors===
			[[Image:Anita_damels_anita_men.png\|thumb\|300px\|Damsels.]]
			[[image:Anitazoeun.png\|thumb\|Saying something "sucks" is "hate speech".]]
			[[Feminists]] and their [[Social Justice Warrior]] followers claim they want equality... but in the end they only really want equality for all [[trap\|non-cisgendered]], [[Faggot\|homosexual]] [[wimmin\|females]]. Anyone else can go to hell. The vast majority of these creatures act out of a wounded sense of pride and self-worth which seems to inspire them to "overthrow" those who are keeping them "down". This means that any male happy with being a straight guy and any female who isn't an angry lesbian even if they have never heard of these people before is the enemy and making their life hell by simply existing. This is done in the name of equality, tolerance and improve the self worth of "everyone".

			If any research has been done to back up their views it was half-hearted at best and mostly secondhand and thirdhand knowledge off wikipedia and various review sites. This is skirted over by fact that pretty much every last one of them went to college so they seem to think that they don't need to do any in-depth firsthand research. Many of them will [[Feminist Frequency\|cite themselves in their own sources list]] in an attempt to look like they did actual research.

			If called on their faulty logic they hide behind their gender and/or sexual preference and play wounded to try to make you feel sorry for them or they will turn their army of Social Justice Warriors on you while crying about how you "Triggered them".

			'''Abridged Examples of failed logic'''
			* Men didn't work to get where they are in life so [[Gamergate\|it's perfectly OK if I sleep my way to the top]].
			* [[Biting Beaver\|All sex involving men is Rape. ALL OF IT. ]]
			* [[Ad hominem]] is the best retort, especially if you can [[White Knight\|have an army]] to do it for you.
			* Anything that doesn't agree with you is wrong and automatically hate speech from [[cis scum]].
			* Anything can be a [[Trigger]] and saying it's a trigger means they have to stop what they're doing and obey you.
			* Rape is defined as "unwanted sexual stuff" so if I don't want them to think about me and they think about me, [[Almost Raped\|I was totally raped]]!
			* Real women choosing to dress and act slutty is a mark of strength. [[Bayonetta\|Not real women choosing to dress and act slutty]] is sexism at work. Time to lament the lack of "strong women" in the media!
			* Drunk women aren't responsible enough to make consent for sexitime, [https://web.archive.org/web/20160805061501/http://www.askamanager.org/2016/08/i-emailed-my-girlfriends-boss-to-complain-that-he-encroached-on-our-relationship.html unless a man agrees that they aren't.]

			===Weeaboos===
			[[File:Weaboos_anime.jpg\|thumb\|200px\|[http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/01/12/seiyuu-to-otaku-have-you-losers-ever-had-a-date/ How Japan views Weeaboos]: startlingly accurate.]]
			[[Weeaboos]] are people born anywhere ''but'' Japan who very much wish they were living in Japan. They base all of their knowledge and desire to live in Japan on various anime, hentai, comics and video games from the country and know almost nothing about the actual country outside of what it's exported media says. Due to spending most of their time wrapped up in Japanese media many of them are very poorly socialized, picked-on by others and have a marked detachment from the rest of the world rivalled only by otherkin and furries. This seeps over into their logic as well. Furthermore, be warned moar; there comes two flavors of weeaboo: Typical weeaboos who are in their teenager phase addled with hormones and the shit that quality state funded education loves to brainwash children with, and those who claim they are smarter, but lack what people call "insight" and "wisdom" or anything that all of ED lacks and magically attracts dramatastic lolcows like them straight on here.

			'''Abridged Examples of failed logic'''
			* Anything from Japan is cool and unique and nowhere else has anything that can rival it.
			* I am Japanese because I have watched/read/listened to tons of Japanese media.
			* The Japanese are just like in their popular media- no further research required.
			* The atrocities of the Imperial Japanese Army and Unit 731 never happened because Japanese people are the greatest in the world and are never wrong.
			* Japanese things are interesting and if I'm into something interesting I am now interesting too!
			* Going to Japan will fix all of my problems! I will be accepted by them, will get a Japanese girlfriend and will finally be someone.
			* [[Arudou Debito\|Nobody will care that I'm not Japanese as Japan isn't racist at all!]]

			===Fanboys in Denial===
			[[File:Furry - Denial - By Technicolor Pie.png\|thumb\|Sure you're not...]]
			Any of the above groups will have some members in denial. They have all of the marks of a regular member of their group, however, they will shout from the rooftops how they totally aren't part of the group for some reason or other. They are ashamed of being what they are, yet seem to think that changing nothing and simply denying their fascinations will make them special and exempt them because "Not all of them are like that". This covers everything from [[Closet Furry\|Closet Furries]] to [[Republicans]].

			'''Abridged Examples of failed logic'''
			* I'm better than those losers, because I "know" what makes my fandom special from doing research on it.
			* My collection and tastes me better than "them" and that gives me every right to act like an ass to others in my fandom.
			* What's this? Something cool that my local culture would like? I'll praise it to all of my being.
			* What's this? Something weird that my local culture doesn't like? How dare they be such stupid freaks!
			* When I get to live where/how I want to everyone will have to respect me and will never laugh at me again.
			* When others mistreat me it's because they ''know'' I'm part of the fandom and not because they happen to be a jackass.
			* I am a member of at least one community and regularly engage in activities that my fandom enjoys, but I'm totally not one of them!
			* I will be judged for the stuff I did in some obscure community nobody has ever heard of so I have to say I don't have anything to do with the fandom.

	== Protecting Yourself ==		== Protecting Yourself ==
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	* Let's be objective		* Let's be objective
	* No, your logic is flawed		* No, your logic is flawed
			* You don't know what you're talking about
	* Rationally speaking		* Rationally speaking
	* Thus		* Thus
	* Wrong		* Wrong
			* Prove it
			* Anything displaying a condescending dismissive attitude as if to communicate they are not impressed
			* Any attempt to split hairs and cushion their butthurt (ex: "[[You amuse me]]")

	Key forums		Key forums
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	* [[The View]]		* [[The View]]
	* [[Wikipedia]]		* [[Wikipedia]]
			* [[TV Tropes]]

	If, while talking to someone on the internet, they sound smart after one or two sentences, it is usually safe to say they they are preempting their barrage of questionable logic with some [[copypasta]] they overheard on [[lulzcast\|public radio]]. If you are unsure, find the longest word in the copypasta and ask them what it means. Sign off/quit IRC/go [[fap]] before they have a chance to google it.		If, while talking to someone on the internet, they sound smart after one or two sentences, it is usually safe to say they they are preempting their barrage of questionable logic with some [[copypasta]] they overheard on [[lulzcast\|public radio]]. If you are unsure, find the longest word in the copypasta and ask them what it means. Sign off/quit IRC/go [[fap]] before they have a chance to google it.

	== See Also ==		== See Also ==
	*[[Faulty Logic]]		* [[Faulty Logic]]
	*[[Logic]]		* [[FoolQuest.com]]
	*[[Questionable Content]]		* [[Logic]]
	*[[The Bible]]		* [[Specism]]
	*[[Time Cube]]		* [[Questionable Content]]
			* [[The Bible]]
			* [[Time Cube]]
			* [[Final Fantasy Disease]]

	==External Links==		==External Links==
	*[http://www.timecube.com TimeCube.Com, Questionable Logic in Action]		* [http://www.timecube.com TimeCube.Com, Questionable Logic in Action]


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[[Image:Bible-mythbusters.jpg|thumb|On the first day, [[God]] sprinkled moon dust in outer-space and KABOOM! the Earth.]]

Ever find yourself in an argument with a fellow [[basement dweller|decent god-fearing citizen of the Internets]] on [[IRC]], [[TOW]], or a news site comment page? If [[you]] have, you definitely have been subject to a phenomenon known as '''Questionable Logic'''.

Practitioners of this fast growing alternative to critical thought can be identified by their [[college|supercilious, bureaucratic tone, their ever-present air of smugness, and the verbose, long-winded manner with which they carry on "conversations."]] Armed with a spell checker, a thesaurus, and a year and a half of community college, these warriors of the web are fully equipped to fill their [[tl;dr|run-on sentences]] with words like dynamic, zeitgeist, and portmanteau, to attempt to sound smarter than you.

At best these half-assed attempts at logic are misguided. At worst, they are so far from the mark that a [[retard]] would blink a few times then call [[bullshit]]. You know it's sad when [[aspies]] and [[retards]] are better at logic than a "normal" person is.

== Basic format ==
[[Image:aethuglife.jpg|thumb|In thinking this phat tat would get him all the hoochies, <s>this young man</s> [[YTCracker]] fell prey to Questionable logic.]]
'''You:''' I don't like [[You|x]] 
'''Guy:''' Really? That's interesting. 
'''Guy:''' Because I think if you take a closer look at the [[lol wut|subcutaneous intricacies]] of the matter, you will see that your opinion cannot survive long under the rigors of intelligent debate without adapting to a more reasonable facet of understanding. 
'''Guy:''' Let me explain. 
'''Guy:''' You see, I like x 
'''You:''' (bbscript-m386.http.ca.comcast.com) Quit 
'''Guy:''' [[Unwarranted Self-Importance|People like me.]] 
'''Guy:''' People are right. 
'''Guy:''' Furthertherewhereforemore, you should like x. 
'''Guy:''' Ah the cut and thrust of academia, it's not for everyone. 

''OR''

If A, then B

If B, maybe A

B > A

Sometimes B = A

Therefore, C ≅ 98°

==A few purveyors of Questionable Logic==
In the pursuit of creative interpretations of logic, there are a few groups that always stand out from the crowd. Their [[NO U|especially sharp rhetoric]], [[Verbose Thread|very verbose vocabulary]], and lack of common sense that makes retards look damn intelligent mark them as the some of the best of the worst when it comes to questionable logic.

This is not an exhaustive list. There are always more where these came from.

===Furries===
[[File:(1336990765)YaraParty72dpi.jpg|thumb|100px|[[Babyfur|Totally]] [[Drugs|Normal]]?]]
No other group but the [[furries]] can boast the claims that fapping to animals is not [[bestiality]], pictures of children having sex is not [[pedophilia]], and that a [[fetish]] is actually a lifestyle. When not cranking out shitty [[MS Paint]] porn, furries spend their time drooling over their thesauruses in order to try to convince each other they are smart or getting into full-blown [[masturbation|wank-fests]] over their favorite [[art]]ists. Many of them are living on [[Welfare]] yet still have "artists" on retainer. Then they complain about not having money for [[food]] and clothes even though they spent it all on [[PoeticIrony|poorly drawn dog cocks]].

'''Abridged Examples of failed logic'''
*[[Softpaw Magazine|Cub art]] is [[pedophilia|freedom of speech]]
*Fursecution violates [[Godwin's Law]]
*It's [[no]]t bestiality!

===DevianTartlets===
[[File:100_Theme_Challenge_Intro_by_orangefox7345.jpg‎|thumb|100px|This will make me popular!]]
The [[BAWWWWW|fine fags]] of [[deviantArt]] spend all their time tracing eachother's shitty artwork, playing with [[lense flare]], and claiming they are "real artists". Point out their poor anatomy, obvious tracing, or even just that they may be wrong and watch the fun begin!

When they aren't busy attempting to fake their way into being an artist these people like doing "drawing exercises" that take the form of crude [[memes]]. These are spread not to help others improve, but in the hopes that others will pick up the memes and link back to them in order to bring them popularity. Most Tartlets don't really care about improvement so much as being praised, which doesn't bode well for any "art site".

'''Abridged Examples of failed logic'''
*I'm a good artist [[Snapesnogger|because I have fans]]
*It's not a trace if you [[traced|flip, recolor, and add cat ears]]!
*You aren't me so you [[prep|have no idea how hard my life is]]! Thus I'm right and you're not.

===Christians===
[[File:Zombie Jesus - 11.jpg|thumb|He's back from the dead and wants your SOUL!]]
According to [[Christians]] an invisible being created the world in six days from nothing, his [[Satan|former best bud]] is now the root of all evil, and a Jewish [[Jesus|zombie that was his own father]] will save us all. Because of this, if you don't belive in this kind and loving faith from a kind and loving god you are going to suffer for eternity after death. Makes perfect sense!

'''Abridged Examples of failed logic'''
*Condoms are evil because they prevent [[STD]]s and [[pregnancy]]
*One being can hear all the world [[lolwut|whispering to him all at once]]
*You will totally [[zombie|come back from the dead]] someday and live in [[Heaven|paradise]].

===Atheists===
[[File:Big-Bang-Demotivator.jpg|thumb|[[Come at me bro|Disprove me]].]]
[[Atheists]] [[Lie|may be saner]] than the religious nutjobs, but they are not immune to questionable logic. The main problem is that they will attempt to do half-crocked research, leaning on a few hours on wikipedia to attempt to topple ideas from people who have spent a lifetime studying the same things, sometimes going as far as disqualifying valid information because the source holds "[[religion|irrational beliefs]]". They also usually carry a thesaurus around for looking up [[pretentiousness|smart sounding]] synonyms for words like "the" to appear [[stupid|smarter]] then they really are.

'''Abridged Examples of failed logic'''
* The universe was created when [[divide by zero|nothing exploded into everything]]
* I'm right because I went to [[college]]
* You believe in [[God|invisible men]], you [[Albert Einstein|can't have any idea]] how[[Bill Nye| to think logically]]

== Protecting Yourself ==
The only 100% effective way to make sure you are not swayed by these harpies' smooth sounding rhetoric on such important topics as The [[2008]] United States Presidential Election, [[Global Warming]], and [[Internet Law]] is to abstain from communication completely. Alternately, you can try not being an impressionable [[fucktard]] (Warning, PRO-level only). However, there are a few telltale signs you might be speaking to someone who has invented their own system of logic and has neglected to mention their use of it in place of yours. A look at the lineup in their arsenal of bullshit:

Key words/phrases
* Furthermore
* Let's be objective
* No, your logic is flawed
* Rationally speaking
* Thus
* Wrong

Key forums
* [[FOX News]]
* [[God Hates Fags]]
* [[Keith Olbermann]]
* [[The View]]
* [[Wikipedia]]

If, while talking to someone on the internet, they sound smart after one or two sentences, it is usually safe to say they they are preempting their barrage of questionable logic with some [[copypasta]] they overheard on [[lulzcast|public radio]]. If you are unsure, find the longest word in the copypasta and ask them what it means. Sign off/quit IRC/go [[fap]] before they have a chance to google it.

== See Also ==
*[[Faulty Logic]]
*[[Logic]]
*[[Questionable Content]]
*[[The Bible]]
*[[Time Cube]]

==External Links==
*[http://www.timecube.com TimeCube.Com, Questionable Logic in Action]

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